"Daily" Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by GTPNewsWire, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. LVS_1986

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    Hi everybody! My first mission in this week is acomplished, I brake 1,31 at Fuji, and not just 1,30.999;) I set 1,30.7xx so very happy. Second mission is to get to 40k DR, tommorow it begins... Now going to watch final episodes of final season Braking Bad(yes I was living in a cave and didnt watch it yet)... Good luck racers!:cheers::cheers::cheers:
     
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  2. KiepeYai

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    Starting 13th on the grid, i never thought ill win this one,, well it turns out bump drafting is legal so no penalties,another FIA win secured,




    I enjoyed this one, cant complain really , it was fun how everyone was fighting for the slipstream
     
  3. Groundfish

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  4. rhcpeppers

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    My "cooking" suit:

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  5. Natalie_GT

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    Gonna be working tonight on improving my qualifying time even further. But for now, here's the race reports for today!



    Yes, starting a mini-Youtube channel, I guess. First episode? Dirty driver and another good battle. Can be really hit or miss, this Sport mode... :irked:

    DR net gain of 900~ish today, SR down to 97, according to K'. Up to 35k~.
     
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  6. Geauxgreddy

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    Race 1 Lap 1, you botched T1 and got sideways in T2, raced off the back foot for awhile. You were off line and had bad exit speed. I hate it when that happens... and every time you try to get on line, there is another over-taker pouncing. Happens to us all. You had the elbows out there a few times, Natalie! LOL. Lap 4, no excuse for the guy punting you, you got into him a tiny bit in T2, but he had already screwed up the corner, he should've tucked in and tried to pass you later. If he was faster it wouldn't be an issue. Second race, good race! P3 gave you more a bit room than I would've, HA! Looked like a fun race, though.
     
  7. sturk0167

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    If you're in a race where everyone has an SR rating of A, but yours is the lowest, numerically (let's say 30,000), would that mean that you could not lose any DR points, since everyone who finished in front of you was higher ranked?
     
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  8. Natalie_GT

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    Actually on turn 2 lap 1, you can see the same guy that punts me off later tap my left rear slightly which puts me into the drift. Good thing I like the Citröen, otherwise I might've spun if I was in another car :boggled:.

    And yeah, I'll admit I had my elbows out against the Porsche but I had that red mist in my eyes, y'know. Said mist only increased as I edged closer and closer to the guy that eventually punted me as I kept telling myself "yeeeees, I'm faster than you. What are you gonna do? Tap my rear again, you *bunch of expletives*?".

    If only I knew.
     
  9. Soundmangt4

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    The V12 Vantage was always my go to car in Gr.3 but I've switched to the Hyundai for this race. Having watched your replay, I'm tempted to revert back to the Aston! Love the crazy revving engine, so forgiving if you need to hold a gear past the red line! Great times you're putting in too! :tup:
     
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  10. Sven Jurgens

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    Have some coffee first ;)

    If everyone in the room is DR A, yours the lowest at 30,000 the rest between 30,000 and 50,000 you would gain between 80 and 120 points per player you finish ahead of, and lose between 80 and 40 points per player that finishes ahead of you.

    You secret formular is 80 +/- (DR difference / 500) per player. min 1, max 160.

    Finish ahead of a player you take 80 + ((their DR - your DR) / 500)
    Finish behind a player you give 80 + ((your DR - their DR) / 500)

    If the DR difference is 40,000 or more then you would only lose 1 point per player that finishes ahead of you, yet gain 160 points if they crash or disconnect.

    You always lose points when you finish last, unless you are at DR 1 already.
     
  11. sturk0167

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    Thank you.
    I'm sorry, I left something out of my message. What I meant to say was that if you finish last, while being the lowest rated, would you not lose points? It sounds like in a field of 20, you may only lose 19.
     
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  12. Natalie_GT

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    1 hour-ish of practice for 3.5 tenths over my previous best? Yes please. I have no idea how to go any faster so I'll just stop for the rest of the week... :lol:



    And if you were wondering, nope. I don't seem to like the META cars. I'm a hipster :cool:. Have been, since the GT5 days where I raced a BMW 120d as my main car in 400PP races. Bimmer did some good work, still have some fond memories :D.

    Lancer feels very good. Planted, easy to handle and consistent. You can't push it too much or else it will nope out and understeer (turn 11 is where it struggles the most in my opinion), and yes, it does have 6 gears. No, 6th isn't useful.

    See you people on track, hopefully. No puntin'! :lol::tup:
     
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  13. Sven Jurgens

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    Yep, if you're DR D and everyone else is DR A over 44K, you would only lose 19 points in a field of 20.
    If you're DR A (over 44K) sorted in a grid with 19 DR D (1 to 3999 DR) players and get disconnected, you lose 3,040 DR :lol:
     
  14. NoStopN

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    My initial try: 58.8 with 58.5 as optimal. Might be a better car for a longer race. But, as much as I wanted to disprove your theory, the numbers don't lie. Tried the Corvette. Got a 58.3 with 58.0 optimal. Tricky track, surely slick as ice.

    At least my alternates use the same name as my original. :D
     
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  15. ZiggyS80

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    I got the races and the turns mixed up. It was the previous race I was thinking of and T7. We went wheel to wheel going in and you held the apex while I took an outside (slower) line. It was a nice move.

    As for this one, it was understandable. You didn’t know I’d give you room, so you took it deep. What does “C-Pillar” mean? I have an idea from context clues, but would like to learn it’s meaning and application in overtaking.
     
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  16. Fennario

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    Pillars are the structural supports for the roof. A is at the windshield, B between driver and passenger door, and C at the sides of the rear window. When the nose of your car is there before the braking zone you have the right to try and pass at the corner.
     
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  17. Groundfish

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    Guys technically my name here and my psn name are the same thing, just diff languages, they both groundfish homies!
    I’m 48kon that acct right now, been building it since the game came out, and I race dailies regular so pissoff about the names!


    So tonight I went in country again in my big ole boat. It’s a lovely car to drive.
    Sadly tonight I wasn’t in the flow. Last night I was easily running mid 57 but tonight I was not...Race 1 I began in second but absolutely couldn’t shake a Canadian in an AMG. we were nose to nose at the line and he took second from me, great racing him though! Very clean and I’m happy with the bottom step of the podium.
    I thought why not one more? In we go...
    Again I start second with an Argentinian in the Ferrari third by a couple thousandths...911 on pole is a known A plus. The three of us were tight the whole first lap except the Ferrari tapped me a touch deep in the chicane entry so then I was totally defensive coming out. He tried round the outside final turn but door was closed. I defended but he was able to cleanly get around next to me on my outside turn 1 so well done by him...
    Now the same AMG from last race is licking his chops and I’m out of sorts just racing point to point...I held him off lap 2 lap 3 turn 1 he aggressively challenged up the inside (I knew it was coming but I’m not gonna block a whole race). Turn 2 I had the inside but he was making a crossover challenge trying to very aggressively get narrow inside turn 3...I faded way right to give space looking to regroup and attack on the ensuing straight but he lost the car under braking into turn 3 and ended up half sideways no speed in middle of track in my path.
    I was already on the limit looking for the inside turn 3 curb tapped him he went off and I got a 4 second pen...(knocking car off track)
    I serve immediately 4 seconds lap 3 and fall to seventh behind some 911.
    They are battling into the chicane and I get a good run and split through the two on exit back to fifth!
    That was a seriously hairy moment!
    The American in sixth stuffed it up my inside bad turn 1 even though I was defending...He took a pen I passed ended fifth...
    Sr at 93, most entrants are B S, too risky to enter with high numbers of B, no offense or anything but if it were full A rooms I’d still be entering.
    I told the AMG no worries, guy is a solid driver just a mistake, 6 little sr down don’t bother me dude! It was fun battling you!
    Plus I’m not in the flow, 58s are pretty sad compared to being better focused...ADD oh well.
    If you made it this far I wish you the best, this Stella is kicking in :)

    Stay thirsty, my friends.
     
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  18. Sven Jurgens

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    It depends on the racing discipline. In F1 you have to be halfway alongside, if only to the C-pillar the defender has the right to the apex.
    https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/

    Consider the textbook method for overtaking in a corner: the attacker takes an inside line, gets alongside the defender in the braking zone, and beats the defender to the apex. If the attacker is ahead at the apex, there is no dispute over ownership of the racing line. The defender must yield. But what if the attacker is only partially alongside? Who owns the apex then?

    Different racing series have their own criteria for how far alongside an attacker must be to have a claim to the apex. In Formula 1, the norms have been explored and refined over the years as a result of drivers like Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher pushing the boundaries and exploiting any gray areas. Today, it is generally accepted that the attacker must be at least halfway alongside the defender when they reach the apex to have a reasonable claim to this piece of track. Moreover, the attacker should not have achieved this position by carrying too much speed to make the corner — this method is called dive-bombing.


    But true, if your nose isn't at least near the C-pillar before the braking zone you should not even attempt to out brake the other car, yet many do, over and over and over and over. Some exceptions apply of course, for example the vastly unbalanced GR.1 cars with very different braking distances. Yet in one makes and GR.3 and GR.4, braking distances don't vary that much so it's a good rule to stick to. If no overlap, don't try to out brake.
     
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  19. Jason885

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  20. NevilleNobody

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    Man its someday to lose SR. I had two dead set nudges, penalty only 1 sec each a d went from 97 to 64. Damn.

    Gave the 911 a try as everyone is using it, as usual at NGP, useless to me. Too easy to slide, doeant like bumps.

    Gave the 16 Lexus a run. Matched my genesis qualybtime of 57.8. Raced with it and won but everyone else crashed out. Still, very different to the genesis, much more nimble a d good power but not as rock solid over bumps and the Tc impedes too much.

    Gave old faithful a run, my ever favourite that I had been ignoring, the merc. Boom, felt good right away as i can brake late and the rear juuuuust slips enough for me to turn in and I can plant the gas like nothing else. Over the last chicane, I HURL it through there, literally all 4 wheels off the ground a d when she lands ahead bites and takes off, nothing else comes close to being capable of that. Ran a 57.2 which us well below 2pc off the fastest time which I rarely, if ever.manage to do. It's a good time for me.
     
  21. ZiggyS80

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    Just to pick at you, I’m no ichthyologist, but Google says “Sebastes” is the species for rockfish, while groundfish would be demersal fish or bottom feeders like flounder or hagfish (also a decent Texas-based 90’s rock band).
     
  22. Groundfish

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    Yes, Sebastes denotes rockfish however the pertinent fishing regulations in my area refer to a bunch of subtypes and flatfish broadly under the term ‘groundfish’ regulations. Many varieties are fantastic eating, sadly I haven’t gotten out much the last few years for a few personal reasons.
    The idea behind the handle was being a bottom dweller lol.
     
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  23. ZiggyS80

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    @Groundfish I did figure there was a reasonable explanation for the discrepancy, but wanted to give you a hard time. Plus any chance to quote Tombstone I’ll take. Just to take my own lumps, David Bowie is my namesake and he pretends to play Stevie Ray Vaughn’s solo in the video for Let’s Dance. Ziggy did not actually play guitar. Devastated!
     
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    Well played! Tombstones epic! Love people’s handles! Never would have figured out almost any without bein told. There was this rpm one I never figured but he nailed the reference on my lobby greeting within seconds!
     
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  25. RACECAR

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    Did Race C, saw alot of people going with 2 Stops but I feel like the 1 stop isn't a bad idea. Now granted I'm not one of those people who can make Speed in the opening laps on softer compounds and bigger fuel loads, but going from 15th to 8th sure seemed to suggest to me 1 stoppers are still decent enough.
     
  26. Ryan Sandall

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    I think this the best strategy but starting on the hards, while everyone is close use the slipstream and keep tabs on guys Infront till ideally lap 8 but lap 7 if the tyres are done
    Then nice fresh mediums to carve through the field with low fuel
    I think the best pace I managed was low 32 on hards and consistenly in the 32's
    Then nice to high 30, switching to medium and staying in the 31's after the first lap
     
  27. 05XR8

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    Scratched a minor itch.
     
  28. Jason885

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    Decided on a new strategy this week, no racing until the weekend, I'll spend what little time I have in the week to get to grips with track B so I can do both race A and B over the weekend, lol it will take me that long to get used to rear wheel drive.
     
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  29. NevilleNobody

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    I dunno, you had a run on him on the second lap and he took a defensive line then drifted over to the racing line, can't stand that. Pick a damn line or it ends in a plane crash.

    I don't understand how he can be so untidy and turn low 57's, i just don't get it.
     
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  30. Natalie_GT

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    If you're talking about the chicane at the end on lap 2, I'm... pretty sure that's fine. He moved once to the defensive to err on the side of caution, knowing that @05XR8 's Lexus was marginally faster in a straight line, and when he saw he wasn't alongside he returned to the racing line, all this done before the braking zone. If the guy had come across in the braking zone then, yeah, Houston we have a problem but it was fine in my eyes.

    That was a good race, shame you didn't get him in the end. I'm positive if you were in the Vantage you would've eaten him for breakfast on the straights and then you'd been able to defend but great driving nonetheless, you're damn quick! :cheers:
     
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