"Daily" Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by GTPNewsWire, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Groundfish

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    I like the Aston DBR9. Nothing can pass it or pull out on straights.
    The races I’ve seen are a 911 festival, like a Porsche car club meeting.
     
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  2. NevilleNobody

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    Nah to me he is trying to have his cake and eat it. He took a defensive line, at that point I would take the racing line, brake a little late and go under him if he slightly misses his apex. If i do that we crash as he drifts back to the racing line at the last second. Once you pick a line, you pick a line.

    I don't get the 911 obsession in the faster rooms. It's wall to wall 911 and I cannot get within a SECOND of my Genesis or Lexus time or 1.5 seconds of the Merc.
     
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  3. Natalie_GT

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    And what would you do once you have claimed that part of the track? The other guy still has the inside to the chicane and you can't pass anyway so... why not just stay back?
     
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  4. DarkSideNet

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    Who says you can't go 2 wide in the chicane? Hold my beer..! :dunce::dopey:
     
  5. Groundfish

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    I could get a time out of the 911, but it would take 1-4 hours of qualifying, and it would be a unicorn lap. It stinks in the chicane if a persons not from Mars.
    Also great q time man! I was really surprised to see you in the Hyundai the other day!
     
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  6. NevilleNobody

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    As mentioned, i will take the "high" line when someone goes defensive as there is a reasonable chance they overshoot the corner a bit given it is a shorter braking distance and they are a bit stressed. From there I can square off the corner and start an undercut. Also, by going defensive, they are compromised for the next exit, by taking away both lines you force me to brake a bit early and lose momentum through the turn compared to you just going defensive.
     
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  7. KosmoKazi

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    Race A at Suzuka: would you like to lose DR or SR for that race? Because you ain't getting away without paying one or the other. So close and impossible to race anyone without contact on the bumpers... fun, but not one to do over and over without risking a SR spiral.
     
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  8. Natalie_GT

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    Alright, I see your point and I know that going defensive usually results in a slower exit speed. Honestly though I personally would never take the outside through the GP chicane unless I'm visibly seeing the guy on the inside massively overspeeding into it, I will show my nose but brake a bit earlier than them (bit before the 100 board) so as to not really cause any problems since it's more beneficial to have them return to the racing line and working together to pull away from the pack some more than start fighting inmediately. I guess it's just what we prefer to do as drivers, personally, the higher I go, the less likely I'm going to try for overtakes and the more mental games I'll play so as to take the least possible chances to screw up my 2nd/3rd/etc. place finish. Cheers for the respectful discussion :cheers:.
     
  9. Groundfish

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    In some of the fast rooms I’ve been in certain drivers will go defensive by running as far as possible on the inside for example Interlagos approaching t1 mirror scraping the inside wall, then they wanna veer out towards the racing line and bonk the car alongside wide.
    My response to those drivers now is pinch them tight by running right alongside them so they become trapped way narrow.
    It’s a cheeky move but I take an eye for an eye, most days..
    Like OK bud that’s where you wanna be that’s where you can stay.

    At times it can be safer to run closer to your opponent because if there’s contact it will be lighter.
     
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  10. NevilleNobody

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    Early?? That's where i always brake. Killin me.

    I guess my philosophy is about racing and to have racing you must have lines, one line each. As soon as someone tries to cover multiple lines, racing becomes very difficult.
     
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  11. Natalie_GT

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    My usual braking point is... ah god how do I explain. There's a bit of a grey line right alongside the tarmac by that point, then the same line becomes wider suddenly thanks to a kink. The kink is my braking point.

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    Here, because I don't think words suffice, I'm crap at explaining stuff. :lol::tup:

    Edit: Yes, it's pretty much the 100 board, but I use that reference point because I usually see the 100 board knocked down and out of the way :lol:.
     
  12. O604

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    Been trying Race C. 5 tries so far. Punted every time and forced to run from the back. And then stuck behind those cars. Meanwhile the cars I want to race with finish 30 seconds ahead.

    I am not getting hit by cars directly behind me. I am getting hit by cars 5-10 cars behind me. :irked:

    Probably should add I've stayed 99 SR and gained DR almost every race. So not a points thing. I just don't want run a 13 lap race from the back every time because someone else made a mistake.
     
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  13. Jason885

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    Reading all your chat about lines, braking points and drifting out makes me worried I might screw up someone's race on race B with my poor positioning or bad judgement on where to be on the track, last thing I want is to be is the mupet that ruined the race.
     
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  14. jad866

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    covering multiple lines is a nice way of saying blocking
     
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  15. jad866

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    I know you're probably going to disagree but I am one of those defensive wall scrapers but only late in the race say at the start of the last lap. I do that to let the person know if your going around your taking the long way. i do move up slighty when they have picked the outside I do not pin them on the outside I also do not run them wide. sometimes people do pin me to the wall and thats fine i just laugh and say well that backfired LOL
     
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  16. NevilleNobody

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    That's not blocking though, that's taking a defensive line .

    As for braking points natalie. I brake a touch earlier, I cant get her rotated unless I do.
     
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  17. Natalie_GT

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    Sitting in the middle of the road in Bathurst's Conrod straight, is that blocking? I'm not weaving all around the place, I'm passively defending my position by making it harder for people to pass. Unless that's not how that works in that situation in which case I can only say "welp I've learned something today".

    Ah, what do you drive?
     
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  18. jad866

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    I guess everyone will have a different opinion I would not consider that blocking because your not moving when I move BUT i would consider that not a very sportsman like thing to do. Just pick a lane as stated earlier> I always try and remember which sometimes I dnt would I like that if it was done to me. so in this case riding in the middle taking up both lanes is fine as long as you dnt mind when its done to you
     
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  19. Groundfish

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    What I do at Bathurst if someone has the run is pick my side assertively. I put them on the side I want them to be and don’t disrupt their run. I think if you’re middle track and your opponent has the run, or let’s say I’m behind you as I’m coming up behind I’m going to be on one side and I’m coming through even if I mow a bit of lawn, if you see that I’m on your left and move left to defend from that initial position middle track I think that’s ok as long as you don’t disrupt my fair run.
    In that case I can pass on the right.
    Disrupting a fair run st Bathurst to me invites the barge dive or punt in the braking area.
    Where it gets stupid is these people who think haha narrow straight and try to swerve block.
    For me that increases my chance of slightly missing my braking point ‘accidentally’ exponentially...:)
     
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  20. Natalie_GT

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    Absolutely. I am Natalie_GT, number 23.
    Try and stop me getting past,
    That's okay,
    I'll just get through on the grass. :cheers:


    *disclaimer: don't take that seriously, that's an F1 reference. :lol:
     
  21. Groundfish

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    Sometimes you have to because some people refuse to respect a defensive line, it leads to this bs.
     
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  22. jad866

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    I agree I hate when people move late or not at all disrupting your momentum. I feel I would not like that being done to me so I try not to do it to other people. The thing that gets is when its being done on lap 1 of a 5 lap race on any track. I f you screw up a bit and the person behind gets a run let them go live to fight another day and if your faster you should have no issue with passing them back. On the last lap I get it you want the win...
     
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  23. jad866

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    LOL that is why i do it you just know sometimes whats coming if you DNT.
     
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  24. Natalie_GT

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    Sometimes they send it down the inside anyway even if you're scraping the inside line :lol:.
     
  25. jad866

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    no I wont try and stop I will just hold my line let you dirty up your tires and then watch you sail of to the beach or the fence. Its all good...:cool:
     
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  26. Groundfish

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    Yep lolol that will get you punted immediately if it’s me. Usually it’s someone fast who fell back and think their entitled because of q time! Bugger off wanker!
     
  27. jad866

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    actually on that note there seems to be a lot of that going on with fuji this week . The pole sitter will over shoot turn 1 hit the astro turf allow 2 ,3, maybe even 4th to scoot by and then its like hey get out of my way entitled person coming thru
     
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  28. Natalie_GT

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    "hurr durr I've spent 10 hours on my super fast quali time obviously im entitled to win this race"

    *gets passed inmediately*

    "nooo this can't be happening i am way faster!!!"

    *gets punted*

    *ragequit*
     
  29. Stencedaddy

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    Its so hard to get out of hell when you get reset. Just nothing but trash all around. The closest ive got to getting out is to sr C thanks to getting pole and driving away because i shouldnt be in a lobby with these guys to begin with.

    I understand resetting SR but a DR reset makes no sense. Im faster than most of the people in the lobby but i cant gain dr/sr if i get hit every corner and get a penalty for my troubles. I guess a DR reset would make sense...if the penalty system actually worked and you didnt lose SR and receive penalties for getting hit by guys who have no business being in sport mode.

    My favourite is when a car slides sideway in front of you and you tap it trying to avoid on the way by and get a 4 second penalty. This dog **** penalty system cant even figure out that a car sideways in the middle of the track should be ghosted or at least be at fault for idk... BEING SIDEWAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GODDAMN TRACK.
     
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  30. jad866

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    last night fuji race I was pole sitter I get dive bombed turn 1 person door slams me I was able to keep it on the black top he gets 1 sec ptly and hits the turf allowing me to pass him back before turn 2 where he gets another penalty with the now 2nd place driver. But for some reason this was all my fault because at the chicane just after the back stretch i guess he never brakes comes from 3rd or 4th to t-bone me right off the track gets another penalty we both get reset in the middle of chicane then proceeds to t-bone me again gets another penalty then rage quits.???? This all from an A/S driver who has a top 100 time in America region seriously.................
     
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