"Daily" Race Discussion

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by GTPNewsWire, Nov 9, 2020.

  1. Groundfish

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    I’d rather have touring cars at Goodwood than gr3 Nurb 24.
    How come we never get this...


    Race report: the VW VGT GTI is for real. I’ve taken several wins with it.
     
  2. 05XR8

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    Seriously, we have the Mini, Gordini, Mach 1, Shelby GT350, Super Bee. We could definitely have races like those.
     
  3. Rexracer702

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    The ring isn't that narrow. The passing lane is the inside with 2 tires in the grass! I'll be there next week.

    Got some racing in this week. Suzuka from the back. Best finish was 3rd. After watching all the clips while catching up in this forum, I notice a lot of guys using 2nd where I'm in 3rd (T1 &spoon) so I'll give that a try. My one podium was 5m/5m. I basically drove clean and stayed out of trouble. Didn't hurt that it was an all B room with no really fast guys. Last weeks GR1 racing definitely improved my racing in high hp cars. The one sour note is I think my wheel is on it's last legs. I've always thought the G29 had too much slop at center in the FF. I now have about 15-20 degrees of slop, which kills precision. I have to race with the FF turned down because with it up it's almost impossible now. Might try taking it apart to see if I can get a tighter mesh.:scared:

    As for the penalty system...I still don't understand, with all the available data, how they can't determine intent. They have full data on all cars. If you hit someone and you're more than 15 degrees of angle off of the average racing line at that point, it's your fault. If you're on a straight, side by side, and you give a strong steering input towards another car, or in a corner and you turn away from the apex, it's your fault. If you brake more than (maybe) 20% deeper than your average initial brake point for that corner, and hit someone, it's your fault. On the penalty side, if the other car stays on, or gets back on the track (like a short run through the grass) you get a typical penalty. If you punt them so they need to reset, you get ghosted and slowed until they take back the position. That would stop the abuse.
     
  4. Groundfish

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    Ha!
    First race of the morning.
    Best lobby I’ve been in for this race.
    All 99.
    I was punted hard at the hairpin, brake checked mid straight, lol, a Brazilian was the idiot perpetrator this time...Dirty race, that’s what top split dailies are looool.
    Lol.
    Don’t make me use Mustang dude. You won’t like it if I do...
    Edit nice one more race top room from 98 sr to B in one race.
    What a bunch of baloney. This is why I do what I do and solely use alt...
    Meh now I’m b sr so keep going...
    The top rooms are by far filled with the biggest cheat arcade gamers sometimes.
    You know, people who have never in their life played a real sport and had to shake hands afterward.
    I know I know it’s not all. But there’s a lot.
    Thank goodness Id never race seriously anymore in this game or id blow a gasket.
     
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  5. Rexracer702

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    I know what you mean. I kept falling into rooms with a particular player. He wasn't slow, maybe a bit faster than me on the tracks we were on. Kept bragging in chat on his easy wins, but in the race, if anyone tried a pass, he'd push them off track, and he always knocked people off when making a pass. Divebomb, bump and run, brake checking and blocking. I did have one or two good races with him. By good, I mean I knocked him off in the worst possible spot, and he finished at the back, or DNF. I try to be clean, but if you mess with me, I'll mess back.:mischievous:
     
  6. fisheye

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    A Citroen is harder to knock off the track than a flimsy old Mustang, faster too.
     
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  7. Sean YZF

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    I haven't had too bad a week at Suzuka. I stuck with the Lexus & 8S 2M tyre tactic. Best finishing position was a few 2nd places with one only a few tenths off P1. I retired from a few races as it wasnt worth the hassle of battling on when you are getting battered around so I've only just made it to DR B this afternoon. Switched to 2M then 8S, this seems to have reduced last lap stress. As usual very few actual race passes just waiting for the inevitable incidents to pick up places.
    See how it goes in the B rooms :cheers:
     
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  8. Groundfish

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    C race wasn’t any better. Tried to no qual but there were like five more behind me.
    Of course lap one I get punted at Degner by this American idiot.
    I fixed his wagon about ten times. then quit.
    I may switch to DR2.
    I’m laid up injured so I will be playing something, it’s about all I can do right now...
    C race was ok for me the other day I no stopped the Xanavi, picked up 12 spots and CRB.
    Today my lobbies have been horrid.

    Bah fake junk.
     
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  9. Groundfish

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    Exactly.
    This system is an embarrassment to Sony, Toyota, Michelin, Lewis Hamilton, all brands involved are better than this junk where some car comes behind me, doesn’t brake for the turn hits me at apex and I get sr down?
    Wtf it’s abysmal!
    Ok I’m not the fastest on B race but I can put together low 53 in race if I’m not getting hit every two seconds or having to go defensive because the idiots behind have made it clear their intentions are to ram me off!
    Basically now also you can sideswipe even to the point of running the outside car off track 90 percent of time without sr down or penalty to anyone!

    For Christ’s sake this system is an embarrassment to the entire country of Japan!
    It’s horrible!

    The honorable thing for them to do would be to turn the darn thing off and admit their complete failure!

    At least that would be honest.

    Edit sorry for the double, couldn’t figure out how to add @Rexracer702 quote to previous message
     
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  10. Rexracer702

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    Is the Xanavi better on tires? I've been having a tough time on softs after 4 laps because the push on the Autech gtr gets terrible. I might be able to manage a no stop since the mediums were pretty consistant from lap 5 to 6. A 6/4 one stop (m/s from the back) would definitely work.

    Sorry to hear about the injury. GTS is good rehab I hear!

    Edit: I do have a hari-kari knife you can borrow, but you need to clean it off and give it back when you're done.
     
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  11. Groundfish

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    @Rexracer702
    I just like driving that car, if I were serious about tire wear etc I’d use the Lexus.
    It’s super stable, and great on tires if you don’t overdrive it.
     
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  12. Rexracer702

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    Yeah, like that can happen:rolleyes:
    Seriously, though. I did improve on that count driving the GR1, so...maybe someday!
     
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  13. astrarobotica

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    Is it too much to ask for N24h to be... nighttime next week? That would be cool.
     
  14. fisheye

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    Race A this week. Sometimes it hooks up and blasts around traffic, sometimes you hit every hidden oil slick and look like a fool.
    And then you're waiting for a race to start and the wife asks you to help with the holiday decorations... DQ.
     
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  15. NAXEHT

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    Alsace as daily B in Gr.3 has been a fantastic combination. Lots of great clean and fast racing, at least in my personal experience. Isn’t it a track that usually gets some critique, for some reason?
     
  16. MattDalton

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    I have had a bit of a mix to be honest. I have seriously enjoyed the combination and, when placed in a lobby with hard but fair drivers, it has been a blast. I would say though that at least 20% of the time there are people doing crazy stuff. I am a B/S rated driver but it seems that you don't have to be that clean to have an S rating on SR these days.

    Admittedly, there are a few places where you can make a mistake which can have a bad effect on your opponent but most of the things I have experienced have been people coming from about half a second back and just punting into the back or side of me to get themselves around the corner. None of them have waited and none of them have apologised in the lobby afterwards. Personally, I have gone into the back of a few people by mistake, but have waited each time to let them have the place back and apologised afterwards. Mistakes happen and that's fine. I just wish there was a way to avoid the idiots who think the only thing that matters is the position they finish in!
     
  17. 05XR8

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    Been running the Sardegna C II all weekend. Starting from 11/16 in the 86. 7:11 minutes of setting up passes.

    This track is about as tough to pass as Brands Hatch. The AI make it easy, but doing so versus humans is going to be difficult.

    If you don't get divebomed at T1, you've got a chance to hold position until the final turn.
    From T1, it's single file, as the next opportunity to realistically pass, is at the grandstands(T5). T4, after the climb out of the esses, is where I'm sure people will go off. Thus, the possibility of a pass.

    The final turn has a couple of lines in entry and exit. Will be interesting for the AWD cars, as to what lines they choose. I can kind of sense the Veyron being strong. Not sure about FFs. I'll try the Scirocco.
     
  18. barak181

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    Personally, I've always liked the track. Lots of people just find the layout weird. But it lends itself to some good racing with the right group of drivers. The last section is a bit jolting, though, and does lend itself to carnage - the very slow, tight hairpin after the highspeed banked right-hander and straight doesn't allow for much error and the downhill chicane has created a mess or two.
     
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  19. MattDalton

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    Had some cracking races tonight at Alsace. Out of 5 races I only encountered one idiot who forced me off the track and then did the same to someone else later on and finished 15th due to two 4 second penalties - what was the point?! Other than that, some very competitive but fair racing mostly with other British drivers.
     
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  20. Skipflap

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    Ive had a amazing return to GTS this week having got new wheel on thursday... Proper enjoyed racing Suzuka. Having a change of strat as you go makes it more interesting. Mainly did 4.1.5 but changwd with traffic. Made it into A rank from 20k. Having battles like
     
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  21. barak181

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    I had a couple of days this week that were bad for Race B but for the most part, it's been a real fun combo. Lots a close, clean racing. I've also managed a few wins on both accounts. Turns out to be a good combo for me. :lol:
     
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  22. DeadEyeDelboy

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    A short of the contrasts of Daily Race yesterday!
     
  23. Master Weasel

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    The results of my final run on Race C this week. Made sure to set a qualifying time so I could avoid the P20 glitch. I used the Lexus instead of the Nissan, as I prefer the former. There was a sore loser that took out all but one brake board on the track. :lol:

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  24. MOPARbarrett5

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    Race A is stock '98 Civic or Integra. From what I can tell very early on the Integra is a bit faster but they are too close to say for certain right now.
     
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  25. 05XR8

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    Did an initial 8:18 in the alt at N24. Messed up my second run. Can't be bothered to set another time. Maybe one & done for that and the rest will be Gr.4.
     
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  26. Redneckchef

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    Race C seems to be a flat out sprint. No strategy. I was hoping for the fuel to be thrown in the mix, but this will have to do. The curbs are still lethal so it is sending a few people, me included, off on wild rides in the grass. Will have to knuckle down and set a proper Qualifying lap though. Some rough stuff at the start with the mix of slowest qually drivers and fastest no qually.
     
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  27. 05XR8

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    I was the Supra that started 2nd. I didn't like how that AMG went up my inside at T2. So, when I saw the Lancer had spun out, I lost my buffer. As the AMG was hanging back, I said, "Okay, wanna play?", I dropped my speed for Psymonized to catch up. He passed us and that was the finish. Didn't give a rat's about that second placed player.
     
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  28. MOPARbarrett5

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    Here is my best lap so far for Race A that is currently fastest in the Americas region.

    I can get a high 1:32 but it is definitely a situation where it could take 5 laps to improve or 5 hours, so I will try again later. For now this can be a good reference for what lines to take and braking points.
     
  29. Redneckchef

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    I thought I saw your alt in there after noticing your qualifying time. I just bumped a guy wide at the start and spent lap 1 fuel saving. Ummmm, didnt need to do that.
     
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  30. 05XR8

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    Yeah, had to check the fuel regs again. Definitely down with that combo.

    Did a 59 in Race B. 16/16. Finished 10/16. Just as predicted, people are going off at the grandstands.
    Watch the final turn, too much red curb at exit, gives a penalty. Got 1 second on the last lap. Ridiculous.
    86 and th 4Cahead if me, have no speed. Handling is fine, but need a British Bulldog or good FRs to mix it with the TTs. Gonna try the GT-R.
     
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