FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

Is the F50 pretty much the only way to go tonight?

 

[skyline1683]

Is the F50 pretty much the only way to go tonight?

seems it srf can’t overtake anything ktm is to twitchy at certain parts of the track and anything else ain’t competitive enough and if you lose the slipstream you’re race is over .

 

[Pigems]

seems it srf can’t overtake anything ktm is to twitchy at certain parts of the track and anything else ain’t competitive enough and if you lose the slipstream you’re race is over .

TYVM, is fuel saving necessary?

 

[bdubclub]

One and done for me tonight. Qualified P5 and had to battle it out for most of the race just to finish where I started. Had some good luck and some bad luck along the way, also had a nice exchange with a Corvette just before the pit stop which was fun. Then an Alfa got all sour and tried to take me out in the 2nd half of the race because he got a penalty. But thanks to a couple others who had penalties to kill on the final straight I was able to gain two spots after rounding the last corner to finish 5th in the end. Had I not been knocked off twice in the 2nd last corner I may have been able to finish 3rd/4th, oh well, it was still a fun race.

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Have to say man, great race. Definitely would have been fighting for a podium, in what was the second split, without the mishaps. Strong brother. 👍

I'm coming from f1 games and yesterday I raced for the first time in sport mode. I had very little experience with the game but still thanks to my low driver rating I managed to start first and get 2 easy wins in nations cup but I got very small points sadly.

Today I signed with Hyundai for manu cup as I was hoping that it not very popular choise(advice of super gt)
So after the races yesterday my dr was B so i had stronger opponents. In qualy practice I managed 1.40.0 which sounds a little slow I guess. I startedon pole but second place SLS was so quick on straights he overtook me and I couldn't get passt him for 13 laps. I tried a few times in second sector and we managed to went side by side without killing each others races. And on the last lap I got him and won the race and got 61 points whic is again very low I guess.
Anyway I had a lot of fun I should say. If it goes this way I would stick around much longer. One question to the experienced people here is hyundai cars too bad? (Gr3 and gr4)
I mean what strengths they have? Like fuel useage or tyre or cornering... So I can adjust my driving. Thanks everyone and this is my first post at the same time

Welcome to GTPlanet and GT Sport.
Gr4 Hyundai is probably the stronger of the two. It will wear the front tires more so than the rear, so balance towards the back is a must. What I really like best about this car, is that even when the tires are gone it still seems to have that sharp turn in, making it easier to keep the lap times competitive late in the race.
Gr3 Hyundai not a bad car, just not great. Doesn’t use too much fuel, doesn’t use the tires all that much, and doesn’t have the hp to overtake. Can be a frustrating car to drive, because it’s so slow. Concentrate on getting on the power as early as possible, with this car it is all about momentum.

 

[Pigems]

Have to say man, great race. Definitely would have been fighting for a podium, in what was the second split, without the mishaps. Strong brother. 👍

Thanks man! Great race to you too! You were right on my tail there for a few laps, I thought you were gonna get around there at one point.

I didn’t know it was such a high split, that’s pretty cool to know that I was able to somewhat keep up with some of those guys. Hopefully I’ll get to race with you again on Wednesday!

 

[05XR8]

TYVM, is fuel saving necessary?

Not necessary. The pole sitting M4 was miles ahead. It had an off at about lap 13. Another off on the last lap. It was miles ahead.

The 2nd place M4 lost the lead on the last corner. So, the M4s are fast, just gotta watch cornering/throttle input towards the end of the race.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Is the F50 pretty much the only way to go tonight?

I see people saying the choice is between the F50, the SFR and the Xbow. What's wrong with the Porsche Carrera RS? That would be my pick if I could race tonight

 

[Cerebral303]

TYVM, is fuel saving necessary?

I saw someone say in the F50 you just need to (short?) shift into 5th in a few places but no worries with fuel maps etc.

 

[skyline1683]

I saw someone say in the F50 you just need to (short?) shift into 5th in a few places but no worries with fuel maps etc.

pretty much shift to 5th once or twice a lap that with slipstream fuel is not a issue

 

[GTWolverine]

seems it srf can’t overtake anything ktm is to twitchy at certain parts of the track and anything else ain’t competitive enough and if you lose the slipstream you’re race is over .

So you mean to tell me the one time I want to actually WANT race the Meta, it actually isn't the Meta??

When I last checked, 8 of the top 10 times in North America were S-FRs, with 2 F50s. But if it's that hard to overtake people in it I might have to give the Ferrari a shot, if I even have it in my garage.

 

[timekiller001]

So you mean to tell me the one time I want to actually WANT race the Meta, it actually isn't the Meta??

When I last checked, 8 of the top 10 times were is S-FRs, with 2 F50s. But if it's that hard to overtake people in it I might have to give the Ferrari a shot, if I even have it in my garage.

I did one practice race yesterday in the Ferrari and on the straights the S-FR was no match.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I think it's whacked that the META in a N300 race isn't even a N300...

 

[Famine]

I think it's whacked that the META in a N300 race isn't even a N300...

It was always the way, even in the Beta. Higher-class cars detuned to the regs have more torque and fatter tyres, and really they should have far more weight and far less power to compensate for that.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

It was always the way, even in the Beta. Higher-class cars detuned to the regs have more torque and fatter tyres, and really they should have far more weight and far less power to compensate for that.

I accept that it is like this, I just think it's wrong. I want the N300 race to be all N300 Cars. I even thought about running it with a N300, but a moral victory doesn't give any points so I won't.

Edit: maybe I should make a livery plastered with N300 decals, run and send the replay to the Gran Turismo Sports Facebook page as a #myturismomoment

 

[Famine]

Well that was a bust. Aside from everyone acting like there's no other cars on the track and just taking whatever line they usually do, I got smashed off the track twice by the same French F50 - one attempted into the bottom hairpin, one on the first corner giving me everything damage - seemingly because I passed him in an MX-5.

Apparently his justification was "U divebomb me and give me penalty". Which translates to "you outbraked me into turn four and while already fully on the kerb I turned into you as if you weren't there and got myself a penalty". Douchecanoe.

He also got demoted to SR A, not that this rescued my race in any way. F50 next up I guess then.

 

[stpatty]

Right boys, I need some help. I always drive the X-Bow for N300 races. Most N500 races too. I have the brake balance set to -5. I've just done a practice race and the tyre wear was even on the front and back, so I'm assuming I've done this to keep the tyre wear like that. The problem is, I've tried moving the brake balance about in this and other cars and I still don't know what difference it makes to the handling. Even if I did I'm not good or consistent enough to really notice it myself, so, er, what does it do?

 

[Famine]

Right boys, I need some help. I always drive the X-Bow for N300 races. Most N500 races too. I have the brake balance set to -5. I've just done a practice race and the tyre wear was even on the front and back, so I'm assuming I've done this to keep the tyre wear like that. The problem is, I've tried moving the brake balance about in this and other cars and I still don't know what difference it makes to the handling. Even if I did I'm not good or consistent enough to really notice it myself, so, er, what does it do?

In essence you need the brake balance far enough forward that you have as much white and as little red as possible under maximum braking. That means your car is stable on the brakes and engaging the ABS (which increases stopping distance, because it lifts off the brakes) as little as possible.

If you move it more to the front you lose braking efficiency and create additional understeer and front tyre wear. If you move it more to the back you lose braking power, but reduce understeer (moving more and more towards oversteer, thus better rotation) and less front tyre wear.

 

[stpatty]

In essence you need the brake balance far enough forward that you have as much white and as little red as possible under maximum braking. That means your car is stable on the brakes and engaging the ABS (which increases stopping distance, because it lifts off the brakes) as little as possible.

If you move it more to the front you lose braking efficiency and create additional understeer and front tyre wear. If you move it more to the back you lose braking power, but reduce understeer (moving more and more towards oversteer, thus better rotation) and less front tyre wear.

I still have oversteer (even with traction control on) and no tyre wear problems, so I guess I'm fine. Thanks.

 

[Sean YZF]

Going to enter the 1840 race, sticking with my decision of using the Greddy Z, it's painted in the Purple Pain & ready to go. Got a F50 ready as a back up plan for later races if it all goes pear shaped


As expected, dead last. No miracles, no rage quitters which was my best hope, ha. Fun little car though

 

[praiano63]

BMW M4 is really competitive for nation today.
I qualify 3rd with it , maintain my 3rd place during 3/4 of the race till rammed out in the wall turn 1.
Finish 9 place.
An excelent option for who don't want to race F50.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

BMW M4 is really competitive for nation today.
I qualify 3rd with it , maintain my 3rd place during 3/4 of the race till rammed out in the wall turn 1.
Finish 9 place.
An excelent option for who don't want to race F50.

Thanks for the tip! Do you need to fuel save in the M4?

 

[vvise]

BMW M4 is really competitive for nation today.
I qualify 3rd with it , maintain my 3rd place during 3/4 of the race till rammed out in the wall turn 1.
Finish 9 place.
An excelent option for who don't want to race F50.

Thanks for the tip! Do you need to fuel save in the M4?

In my practice the M4 has better lap pace than the F50 but is more tail happy.
The M4 will run out of tires halfway through the race and the pace suffers heavy in the final 5 or so laps.
M4 will finish the race with 2 laps of fuel left.

 

[praiano63]

The M4 will run out of tires halfway through the race and the pace suffers heavy in the final 5 or so laps.

That's true but tyre wear can be lowered using upper gear turn 4 and 5. The good torque allow to do this without performance lost.
I've finished the race with 50% front tyres and 60% rear.
I've used bb -2 to avoid rear end drift under strong braking.

 

[vvise]

That's true but tyre wear can be lowered using upper gear turn 4 and 5. The good torque allow to do this without performance lost.
I've finished the race with 50% front tyres and 60% rear.
I've used bb -2 to avoid rear end drift under strong braking.

The race i finished in it i had more like 75-80% tires remaining, however it's almost impossible to keep lap times in the 1:34.x with that much wear, i was down 2s per lap at that point. The F50 can run 1:33.x even on the final lap.

In the higher splits I don't think it's viable.

 

[skyline1683]

Actually had enough tonight of the nation’s cup.... I wish people who ain’t in the right region would stay the hell out and stick to there own region instead of creating a second account so they can race .... gt sport split it in to regions for a reason all they managed to achieve tonight was causing havoc with latency issues and who suffered not them the actual people who was ment to be there

 

[TAU_GTP]

I was looking forward to today's Nations race, but my god...quali already was a complete fiesta with both mindless and intentional blockers (A/S lobby).
The race however was even worse. At least 3 players trolled the session by ramming, brake checking and Slalom weaving. Many left, I didn't and at least got from P17 to P11.

Still, the current state and direction of GTS online races is just sad...

 

[Barters81]

I really really wanted to use something different to the F50 in the nations race. We had so many options, but unfortunately the bop meant the F50 was the go. I mean, if it wasn’t for the stupidly high gear ratio of the gt40 it would have been nuts to use. Oh well....I hope PD get better with the N class bops. Would love these races to have any one of maybe 10 cars be the ones to use.

So I had a few cracks at this with different cars before going the F50 and coming second. 250 points roughly.....happy with that.

 

[praiano63]

Actually had enough tonight of the nation’s cup.... I wish people who ain’t in the right region would stay the hell out and stick to there own region instead of creating a second account so they can race .... gt sport split it in to regions for a reason all they managed to achieve tonight was causing havoc with latency issues and who suffered not them the actual people who was ment to be there

Unfair agressives players or just stupid dive bombers are much more prejudicial for any other racers than the regions where you're playing from.
Be a fair player or not is the only important thing.

 

[stpatty]

First attempt I started 9th and got hit with a fantastic penalty I'll share in the penalty thread later. I got slammed into the wall by someone who didn't brake for the last corner and got 4 seconds. End up stuck behind an F50 who's awful through the corners and esses but just drives away on the straights. Finish 14th.

Second attempt I got the ABS bug for the first time and started last. Was getting somewhere and might have scraped a top 10 finish only for an F50 to go off at the big corner after the penalty line and give me a penalty when he tries to go up the inside of me at the esses anyway. 14th.

**** it. I'm putting Kie's livery on an F50 and smashing this in the last slot.

 

[das89ca]

Did not had any hopes for today's race, so I went to the race with the thought to take whatever decent result I can. In free practice my best time was a 35.2 - with an optimal of 34.5(got a throttle blip right on the end sector - my pedal needs cleaning...again).

Qualy was decent, I got time for 3 laps, best being a 35.596 and worst a 35.68x. This was enough to put me on P9 on the grid.

1st lap of the race was pretty crap, I struggled massively in first few turns due to cold tires and I got to P16. I was completely resigned with the idea of getting a bad result and call it a night when things started clicking. I started to gain positions and by the end of lap 8th was back in P9 and in the group of P3. I even managed a 1.34.8 in a lap - so better than my time trials with 4 tenths.

At this time fighting started in front and this made victims. Two cars crashed in the first sector, then an Austrian with a SFR pited and I found myself in P6 at the end of lap12. I had a good pace but started to make mistakes because of tire wear and although I kept it on the track the group behind managed to catch up.

As two cars were on fresh tires and they started putting up pressure(and a bit of a dirty pushing) I had to speed up the pace. I made two mistakes and had to slide a bit to keep it on the tarmac which made me to lose time and positions. Last 4 laps were a constant battle within the group, changing positions and even trading paint from time to time. End of the race found me in 10th - for 72 points.

I will call it a night, this combo is not fitting me well and at least I did not bleed DR.

Problem is, I practiced a bit the 458 at Interlagos. Or, tried to, I was not able to keep the damned thing pointing in the right direction. I tried every combination of TC0-1-2 and Braking balance and I only managed to get a 1.32.7 on Softs. Then I found the winning combo: TC0, BB -5 and a bit of throttle when hard braking in T1 and at least I can keep it on the track. Ah, and not touching 1st gear at all in the slow corners.

Got to 1.32.1 and I hope I can gain some more tomorrow in my usual 30 min time trial session before the race. In any case, I am expecting troubles...

I know that we can change manufacturers after the preseason, question is - can we change it also between the 10 rounds "packs"? I really enjoy the group 4 car, but the Group 3 is a handful...