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[vvise]

this one wins LOL

 

[bdubclub]

Thanks a lot for your answer. So basically Hyundai is not the kind of car you can go for wins among the best players(which doesn't matter so much in manu cup) but reliable and easy to drive for noobs like me. I will try to understand these tyre degs and everything race by race. Because my dr is B, I haven't been challenged yet. And next race is an f1 track(brazil) so again I belive I will be alone in the front against b drivers. But may I ask another question? I have been doing some practice for that race and I managed to do 1.30.0s and probably could go a few tenths faster. But in the leaderboards I see 1.28.5s. Is it possible that there is a difference in car performance around 1 second or am I too slow? If its me, I should change my approach clearly to close that kind of difference. Again thanks for your time and answer.

The last second is the toughest to find, when I figure it out I will let you know...

 

[GTWolverine]

Did the 3rd and 4th time slot for tonight's Nations race. I used "Kirby" for both.

In my first race I qualified 10th and finished 12th after being slightly off my rhythm the entire race and of course being swarmed by F50s. I used the time between races to try different cars to see if any would be better than Kirby, and decided to try again with him instead, since I don't have an F50 and don't usually buy cars I have no intention of using outside of 1 race. In the next race I put Kirby 3rd on the grid and first of the S-FRs. I then dropped positions until I was in 7th because I again got swarmed by F50s. I was able to stay latched to the 6th place F50, and 8th place never really threatened. When 3rd-5th started fighting, me and 6th place caught them, and 6th and 5th came to blows on the last lap in the esses, allowing me to swoop in and grab 6th (and first of the S-FRs) for 162 points. Unfortunately the game disconnected a few seconds after the finish screen. I kept my points, but didn't get to save the replay.

 

[vvise]

Lots of exciting racing tonight, starting to enjoy Nations races. Pulled a 1:33.9 together in qualifying without a tow which felt pretty good. Fastest lap of the race was a 1:33.4

 

[GTWolverine]

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That S-FR was like , then

 

[GTWolverine]

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[05XR8]

Hope I don't get knocked off the track, wherever I start.

Edit: made it unscathed.

The player in 2nd, got baulked in qualy Started mid-pack. No matter, got within 2 seconds of me just when I pulled into pits to make first stop. 10RH/5RM /3RS

3rd place had started behind me on RM. When it got close through the PZ(lap 2), I let it go. Followed it for a few laps. It's tyres were going off around Lap 5. Fo some reason, it went far left and crossed the pit entry lines. Picked up 0.5 seconds. I passed for the lead and pulled away.

2nd & 3rd passed me on my first pit stop. I got the lead back when 3rd place entered pit lane, just as I was on its rear bumper.

Served my final stop and came out 5 seconds ahead. Did qualy laps, for the last two laps, on fresh Softs. FL with a 1:31.597.

 

[Lion-Face]

Just in time!

 

[05XR8]

Faster room this time. Starting 6th. Will do the same strategy from my first race.

 

[LVS_1986]

Faster room this time. Starting 6th. Will do the same strategy from my first race.
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What is your strategy? I know that all compounds must be used. Start on med, then soft and hards on the end? And what about fuel, is saving needed?
Ok, sorry I missed your previous post

 

[Barters81]

Just managed to win one with the Ford GT. Qualified on pole with a 1:30.0, then thought I may as well put the softs on and try to break away.

Got about 2-3 second gap when I pitted at the end of lap 6. Once I broke slip stream I backed off, short shifted and tried to save tires.

Put the hards on first pitstop(no fuel) as I figured I might come out behind the medium runners. Which I did. Sat in the slipstream and by the time every did their first stop I was about 6.5 seconds in front.

Stayed out on the hards for as long as I could with the fuel I had. Maintain at least 5 second gap, I thought. If they are catching me now I’ll have the tire advantage at the end.

Pitted end of lap 11 for mediums and a splash of fuel.

Came out in a nice slipstream and the guys in front peeled off to pit after a bit. I figured it wasn’t worth fighting them so long as I wasn’t losing too much time. I had 5 seconds to play with.

TL/DR: Long story short I won by about 3-4 seconds. 208 points. I didn’t think the tire wear in the GT would yield much here.

 

[05XR8]

What is your strategy? I know that all compounds must be used. Start on med, then soft and hards on the end? And what about fuel, is saving needed?
Ok, sorry I missed your previous post

10RH/5RM/3RS I added fuel both stops and still did good. 1st stop I added a couple laps and second stop I added 1 lap.

It worked again( I rose to 3rd in the middle of the race.. In the final stint, a C7 and Genesis were so slow and blocking just a bit. I wasn't going to punt them, but I gave them courtesy at the start of the race. I was on RH and let cars pass.

The group that was ahead, I was catching by a couple seconds each corner. I could have passed them if the C7 and Genesis gave way.

 

[Pigems]

Please tell me you saved the replay. I also want the audio commentary from the other drivers.

I certainly did, it’s shared in game, tagged GTP, FIA and TPC.

 

[LVS_1986]

Thanks! Maybe Im wrong but starting on hards with heavy car isnt killing speed? On tve other hand starting on softs will kill tyres I will try start on meds, then fuel up to max take softs, and hards with no fuel. Do you think it will be faster strategy? Of course everything depends on traffic and starting position.

 

[05XR8]

Thanks! Maybe Im wrong but starting on hards with heavy car isnt killing speed? On tve other hand starting on softs will kill tyres I will try start on meds, then fuel up to max take softs, and hards with no fuel. Do you think it will be faster strategy? Of course everything depends on traffic and starting position.

Yes, it also depends on drivers. Noone pushed me off. One car, a Jag or Aston, rubbed me on the final turn. I had given it plenty of room to not touch each other and it still found a way to make contact.

The MAzda is good on its tyres and fuel. So, I was confident in it holding together on the RH tyres. I knew cars would stop earlier than me. This allowed me to run in clean air for some time and not be held up by traffic. Again, I didn't fight with anyone. I let cars pass easily, to not hurt my tyres at any stage.

 

[pennanton]

10RH/5RM/3RS I added fuel both stops and still did good. 1st stop I added a couple laps and second stop I added 1 lap.

It worked again( I rose to 3rd in the middle of the race.. In the final stint, a C7 and Genesis were so slow and blocking just a bit. I wasn't going to punt them, but I gave them courtesy at the start of the race. I was on RH and let cars pass.

The group that was ahead, I was catching by a couple seconds each corner. I could have passed them if the C7 and Genesis gave way.

I did the same Strat first try, but I switched to 8H/6M/4S second go round simply because the 4C held its tires a bit too well, just spent too much time on a slower tyre even if tyre life was fine. I waited for a gap to form lap 8 and got some very good time on the mediums, just swallowed up cars last 2 stints and went from as low as 10th dealing with the hards in a sea of medium/softs early, to a very clear 3rd by the end of it.

I know we race similar people and get similar times so if it worked for me and if the Mazda 6 is as good as people say it is, it might be worth a crack if you hadn't already.

 

[Famine]

Thanks! Maybe Im wrong but starting on hards with heavy car isnt killing speed? On tve other hand starting on softs will kill tyres I will try start on meds, then fuel up to max take softs, and hards with no fuel. Do you think it will be faster strategy? Of course everything depends on traffic and starting position.

It's the same tactic I usually use: first half on hards, just over a quarter on mediums, then the last stint on softs.

The hard tyres will last the longest on a heavy car, so you can get them out of the way in the early stages when cars are jockeying for position - you don't lose so much time and can hook onto anyone's slipstream. Then with the lighter car you can take softer tyres and get more laps out of them, making up time in clear air when everyone else pits for harder tyres, and finish with as light a car as possible on as soft tyres as possible - the fastest configuration - while people in front tiptoe around on tyres made of plastic.

Go in slow, come out fast, but applied to a whole race

 

[LVS_1986]

I knew cars would stop earlier than me. This allowed me to run in clean air for some time and not be held up by traffic.

I hope that everybody choose softs on my race Than I will build a gap of 20s and win the race with one finger in my nose

It's the same tactic I usually use: first half on hards, just over a quarter on mediums, then the last stint on softs.

The hard tyres will last the longest on a heavy car, so you can get them out of the way in the early stages when cars are jockeying for position - you don't lose so much time and can hook onto anyone's slipstream. Then with the lighter car you can take softer tyres and get more laps out of them, making up time in clear air when everyone else pits for harder tyres, and finish with as light a car as possible on as soft tyres as possible - the fastest configuration - while people in front tiptoe around on tyres made of plastic.

Go in slow, come out fast, but applied to a whole race

Thats logical, but I see one big minus of this tactic, risk of beign blocked or stucked behind slow cars at the end of the race. And whole advantage of fastest possible configuration dissappears. But I will try it today, and post results, only 5 more hours

 

[SweatyC]

After finishing dead last at Fuji thanks to ridiculous penalties, I was desperate to make up for it here. Qualified 6th and was meant to start the race on Mediums but ran out of time so started on Softs. Actually think it might have worked out better as it allowed me to overtake a couple of cars and break slipstream and pull away. Pitted lap 5 for Hards and then again on lap 12 to take on Mediums and a bit of fuel. Came out in 5th, 15 seconds ahead of 6th. Car in front pitted and that’s how it remained rest of the race. So a 5S/7H/6M worked out pretty well for me. Viper is lovely to drive around Interlagos

 

[T_revisio]

Did first slot of Nations yesterday. Went with the NSX as it's the car I know best. Managed a clean run in quali and that put me near the front. Went 7S/7M/2H, first stint I was behind someone on mediums but didn't really go for anything as I was saving fuel, had a clean run in my 2nd stint other than my outlap where I came out behind someone and after my last stop I ended up in the lead battle, was a close run race in the end with the top 3 all within 1s. A very good haul of points for me, much better than I was expecting, helped a lot by quali and the NSX being very good on fuel.
Shout-out to @T_revisio and @VulcanSpirit on very good drives from the both of them in that one

Thank you. Great drives from you and @T_revisio, too - the last lap was just as close from my end!

That was a phenomenal race ! One of my most satisfying (rare lol) FIA victories.

Strangely satisfying that the top 2 were not in the Brands meta Porsche or Beetle.

If Hasnain282’s NSX had exited the pits 0.5 seconds sooner, with 2 laps to go, it would’ve been tough for me to make a clean pass at Brands in the Atenza. Luckily, I just managed to get into Paddock Bend ahead and defend up to Druids hairpin.

 

[Famine]

Thats logical, but I see one big minus of this tactic, risk of beign blocked or stucked behind slow cars at the end of the race. And whole advantage of fastest possible configuration dissappears.

That applies at any point of the race, probably more so at the start of the race because you're in a squabbling pack of different people on different strategies, and people are knobs. It just takes one idiot, or one idiot revenge punting the first idiot and getting you tangled up in it, in the opening lap or two to stuff your soft tyres.

Later in the race tyres that are two steps softer give you a huge advantage in braking, acceleration and cornering grip, allowing for a wide range of different possibilities at any given corner. And you only have to deal with one or two people at a time, not 15.

All tactics have advantages and disadvantages though.

 

[timekiller001]

My races were horrible in yesterday's nations.
First race was in the back of the pack most of the race and finished P14 or something for 148 points.
Seconds attempt had a disconnect before matchmaking, so at least no DR problems.
Third attempt was the last slot. Started P15, only 7 tenths or so behind pole. Got very close due to slipstream. As I went ahead of everyone to get 3 timed laps I had no slipstream at all :/
Race start was unspectacular.
Towards the last turn in lap 3 and 4 I braked a bit later as the Spaniard in front who went wide, but no more. My fault. Could've passed him but didn't.
But he went nuts. He tried at least 3 times to ram me off the track and was a pain in the arse for me. He ruined both of our races. So in the end only P14 and 128 points. Not what I wanted.

Here is the video :

 

[watto79]

My races were horrible in yesterday's nations.
First race was in the back of the pack most of the race and finished P14 or something for 148 points.
Seconds attempt had a disconnect before matchmaking, so at least no DR problems.
Third attempt was the last slot. Started P15, only 7 tenths or so behind pole. Got very close due to slipstream. As I went ahead of everyone to get 3 timed laps I had no slipstream at all :/
Race start was unspectacular.
Towards the last turn in lap 3 and 4 I braked a bit later as the Spaniard in front who went wide, but no more. My fault. Could've passed him but didn't.
But he went nuts. He tried at least 3 times to ram me off the track and was a pain in the arse for me. He ruined both of our races. So in the end only P14 and 128 points. Not what I wanted.

Here is the video :

It's an annoying problem in GTSport for quite a large number of players. The moment there's contact they just become entirely focused on revenge and forget about the race. I had a similar incident when I nudged someone at turn 1 at Tokyo East Outer Loop. They went off line, I backed off so they kept the position. They spent the rest of the race ramming me into the wall so we finished 19th & 20th.

Accidents happen and as long as the person that nudged you doesn't take advantage of it then people need to forget it and move on. Sadly that's the exception to the rule.

 

[timekiller001]

It's an annoying problem in GTSport for quite a large number of players. The moment there's contact they just become entirely focused on revenge and forget about the race. I had a similar incident when I nudged someone at turn 1 at Tokyo East Outer Loop. They went off line, I backed off so they kept the position. They spent the rest of the race ramming me into the wall so we finished 19th & 20th.

Accidents happen and as long as the person that nudged you doesn't take advantage of it then people need to forget it and move on. Sadly that's the exception to the rule.

At least he got what he deserved, someone else was fed up with him as well so he got punted out (21:41 and look in the mirror )

 

[Roman_GT23]

The S-FR was fun and I was hanging with some very fast ferraris last night but my god. I couldn't pass a granny in a minivan with this thing. I had a great run out of the corners but the Fezzas would just pull away on the straight. Felt like I was in a mini vs V8 type of deal. Finished 3rd with the fastest lap (on lap 10)

How long is the soft tire expected to last for the Manu Cup at Brazil today at a fairly fast pace? I see anywhere from 3-7laps reading the above.

 

[timekiller001]

The S-FR was fun and I was hanging with some very fast ferraris last night but my god. I couldn't pass a granny in a minivan with this thing. I had a great run out of the corners but the Fezzas would just pull away on the straight. Felt like I was in a mini vs V8 type of deal. Finished 3rd with the fastest lap (on lap 10)

How long is the soft tire expected to last for the Manu Cup at Brazil today at a fairly fast pace? I see anywhere from 3-7laps reading the above.

Which car are you driving? It's very different, the Porsche for example is very kind to them and they'll last for several laps on it

 

[stpatty]

At least he got what he deserved, someone else was fed up with him as well so he got punted out (21:41 and look in the mirror )

I would have taken him out long before that if I were you.

 

[theschledy]

Confirming this first before I make an ass of myself:

If I manage to set a lap on softs and make it back to the pits to change tires, no matter what compound I switch to I'm going to start the race on softs right?

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

Confirming this first before I make an ass of myself:

If I manage to set a lap on softs and make it back to the pits to change tires, no matter what compound I switch to I'm going to start the race on softs right?

In an FIA race you’ll have a minute in between qualifying and the race to choose your tires, you just need to remember to do it. I’ve forgotten once or twice.

I’m not sure if you pit and change tires before qualifying is over, if the new tires selected will be your race starting tires.

 

[The359]

The tires will default back to whatever you started the last session with. Pitting will not change what the tires are set to for the race. You will need to set the tires in the menu prior to the race.