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Here's me bottling 288 point finish :( I was expecting to pass him on the back straight but he moved just a bit away from the wall and i pushed him forward. The fuel message disappeared so i assumed i had plenty. Very confused.

there's some swearing in the party chat in the bg sorry, spoiler tags.


In the end I raced again and the lobby was only worth 255 for a win. Too bad :(


That race had a lot of people run out of gas near the end, I passed at least one and a few other people had penalties which put me up to 8th. Netted 204 points, the most for an Aston Martin in this round.
 
Yeah, I am in the Corvette too. They have it so detuned the FWD cars pull away on the straights, even in their draft. Then it isn’t tuned well enough to make it back in the turns. Fun to drive, but BOP is off a bit.

I also pitted with 6 laps left, fueled up with 6 laps worth of fuel and proceeded to run out of fuel with 800-1000 feet or so to go, just before the last turn. Dropped from 7th to 10th coasting to the finish line.
I think the global Gr. 2,3, and 4 handling update ruined the Gr. 4 'Vette the most. In the last pre-season, before the handling update, my 2 best points scores were with the Gr. 4 car, including a 2nd place at DT Gardens of all places! In fact another Corvette finished 3rd in that race! Definitely not a track that favors heavier, understeery cars like that, but it was still competitive against the much more nimble machinery. With the way it drives now, I'm not looking forward to Fuji...
 
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Tried again and what a waste of time that was. Got punted again in the same section. Porsche only gets a 2 second penalty meanwhile I get thrown to the wall with engine damage and fall to 13th while the Porsche finishes in my 9th position i got robbed out of plus dropped my driver rating from A to B after getting punted in my two attempts. Never racing on this track again.
 
Is it just me or is the Gr.4 BoP much worse since they did the handling changes?

A lot of people seem to be skipping rounds in the manufacturer's championship simply due to their car being laughably outclassed. Used to be that the Megane Trophy was the only OP car I saw (still think it is one of the most broken cars in the game but that is another story), but every track now seems to have a couple of cars that the majority aren't going to get anywhere near.

Maybe it is just the last 2 Gr.4 tracks, but all I really want is the cars to be relatively competitive with each other and at the moment it seems the difference between the best and worst cars on a given track is simply too much.

It sort of brings back the thought that they really need to have individual BoP's for each track. If PD were willing, I bet they could get the community to help with this. Just ask people to do testing for them and I think you would get a good response.

Saying that, maybe I am just grumpy because I picked Jaguar :)
 
Is it just me or is the Gr.4 BoP much worse since they did the handling changes?

A lot of people seem to be skipping rounds in the manufacturer's championship simply due to their car being laughably outclassed. Used to be that the Megane Trophy was the only OP car I saw (still think it is one of the most broken cars in the game but that is another story), but every track now seems to have a couple of cars that the majority aren't going to get anywhere near.

Maybe it is just the last 2 Gr.4 tracks, but all I really want is the cars to be relatively competitive with each other and at the moment it seems the difference between the best and worst cars on a given track is simply too much.

It sort of brings back the thought that they really need to have individual BoP's for each track. If PD were willing, I bet they could get the community to help with this. Just ask people to do testing for them and I think you would get a good response.

Saying that, maybe I am just grumpy because I picked Jaguar :)
I’m probably wrong as usual :lol: but it seems that the FF cars are always the meta cars now, at least so far this season they have been (along with Porsche). Speed wasn’t their problem, it was the tires, and after supposedly improving the tire wear for the FF cars, they’re just even faster!
 
Is it just me or is the Gr.4 BoP much worse since they did the handling changes?

A lot of people seem to be skipping rounds in the manufacturer's championship simply due to their car being laughably outclassed. Used to be that the Megane Trophy was the only OP car I saw (still think it is one of the most broken cars in the game but that is another story), but every track now seems to have a couple of cars that the majority aren't going to get anywhere near.

Maybe it is just the last 2 Gr.4 tracks, but all I really want is the cars to be relatively competitive with each other and at the moment it seems the difference between the best and worst cars on a given track is simply too much.

It sort of brings back the thought that they really need to have individual BoP's for each track. If PD were willing, I bet they could get the community to help with this. Just ask people to do testing for them and I think you would get a good response.

Saying that, maybe I am just grumpy because I picked Jaguar :)

I completely agree. I think the BoP update we had back at the end of Feb started the ball rolling when handling cars were given a slight boost and power cars a slight power reduction. This already favoured the handling cars who could now sit in the slipstream of a power car and be faster in the corners AND have better tyre wear and fuel consumption.

I'm not sure what the more recent update did but certainly FF cars are now competitive, but at the expense of the FR power cars. The reduced slipstream I think made it even worse for them as overtaking at the end of a straight is harder to do.

I guess however you try and balance it there will always be more favourable manufacturers to go with. The number of Porsches I'm seeing at the moment is ridiculous. I think there were 6 in our race, and I've seen as many as 11 in a single race.

I do feel for you though. Jaguar were good in very recent memory but currently last in the standings. Maybe a change of manufacturer in a couple of weeks could be a good idea.

Just to demonstrate the fuel saving advantage, I gained 8 spots in yesterdays race. 4 of them were during the pitstop phase and another 1 from a Ferrari running out of gas before the line. I wasn't even being particularly careful with the fuel and didn't have a slipstream after lap 2. Its a shame I suck at qualifying :lol:

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So being a Saturday, there was only one Manufacturer race I could take part in thanks to work, so way I was gonna do a race that goes into midnight.

I was car number 12, so I wasn't expecting much, especially since I hate the Tokyo tracks.

My first lap in qualy wasn't great, kept getting blocked and nudged from people trying to race. Second lap, I annoyingly missed out on slipstream because the car in front pitted, I still smashed out a very clean lap and put myself 4th on the Grid. 0.6 off pole. If only I had that slipstream.

The race was fairly frustrating, leader got away becasue a guy with me in a Toyota was adamant on fighting for position instead of working together. He definitely wasn't a clean driver. He went for a divebomb in the hairpin, I had to take evasive action otherwise I was going around. He also tried overtaking me in the 3rd apex of the triple right, he put his nose in, leading to contact, stupid from him to be honest. I had to let him go in the end becasue it was costing way too much time.

2nd stint on mediums was annoying, I hit the wall with a few laps left, giving me a 1.5 second penalty. That led the battle for 4th and 5th into my slipstream. Had to hold onto my 3rd place for dear life, even parking the bus on the final lap while saving fuel (bit short)

Crossed the line 3rd, 0.077 seconds to 4th with 0.0 laps of fuel, literally seconds away from running out.

My best result of the season so far, which I'm very happy with.
 
Yesterday I tried the Nations race, the last stint. I qualified 6th after another driver destroyed my lap braking in front of me in the straight after Lesmo 2. The race started very well, I could overtake in the first chicane 2 cars and started battling for the 3rd position for a few laps until an Italian driver punted me in the back 3 times in a lap, on first chicane, on the 2nd Variante and at Ascari, the two first I could manage to control the car but in Ascari he send me to infinity and beyond and after recover I was 9th, so I had to battle with another dirty driver, this time a Portuguese, everyone who tried to overtake him, he tried to block or punt or hit you, luckily he loss the brake point on the 1st chicane and he was teleported.

After a few more laps I pitted to change tyres to mediums and I managed to be again on 4th position but in the last lap, because I pushed so hard to catch the 3rd, doing the fastest lap, I destroyed the tyres so in the last lap an English driver, passed me, very cleanly, at the parabolica, so 5th place that could be 3rd or even 2nd.

Not my best race, a few dirty drivers and 2 penaltys, both at Ascari but a good and fun race althought I hate the Lambos gr4 and gr3 :lol:

 
Ah, Monza. What a lovely place to be. I have completly forgotten how bad a race could turn out on this track. Raced in the last weeks in multiple lobbies there, and it was fun with fair and clean racers.

I was busy yesterday with real life and cars and was only able to get the last slot at the Nations Cup. Had a decent free practice in the last days, so I was confident to be ok there.


I wasn't. Messed up the qualifying, started 15th. Was after T1 7th, then hell broke loose. I got bombed, pushed and cutted all over the race, I finished 13th with a no stop strategy.

It was so painful I shut off the PS and did again real life stuff. Had no intention after this to drive my M4 in Tokyo.

Hopefully it will be more fun in the next round.
 
Tried again and what a waste of time that was. Got punted again in the same section. Porsche only gets a 2 second penalty meanwhile I get thrown to the wall with engine damage and fall to 13th while the Porsche finishes in my 9th position i got robbed out of plus dropped my driver rating from A to B after getting punted in my two attempts. Never racing on this track again.

Was a tough place to pass clean and unfortunately some didn’t bother to try.

I think we’ve been in same lobbies before, I only follow guys I’ve met here or raced clean with. I respect anyone who can handle that NSX… I can’t seem to figure out how to get it up to speed!
 
I completely agree. I think the BoP update we had back at the end of Feb started the ball rolling when handling cars were given a slight boost and power cars a slight power reduction. This already favoured the handling cars who could now sit in the slipstream of a power car and be faster in the corners AND have better tyre wear and fuel consumption.

I'm not sure what the more recent update did but certainly FF cars are now competitive, but at the expense of the FR power cars. The reduced slipstream I think made it even worse for them as overtaking at the end of a straight is harder to do.

I guess however you try and balance it there will always be more favourable manufacturers to go with. The number of Porsches I'm seeing at the moment is ridiculous. I think there were 6 in our race, and I've seen as many as 11 in a single race.

I do feel for you though. Jaguar were good in very recent memory but currently last in the standings. Maybe a change of manufacturer in a couple of weeks could be a good idea.

Just to demonstrate the fuel saving advantage, I gained 8 spots in yesterdays race. 4 of them were during the pitstop phase and another 1 from a Ferrari running out of gas before the line. I wasn't even being particularly careful with the fuel and didn't have a slipstream after lap 2. Its a shame I suck at qualifying :lol:

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What both you and @Lost Sheltie are saying is same thing I was thinking about Gr4. I think they have made so many changes and now with the recent handling and physics change Gr4 seems to be more unbalanced than ever. FF's seem to have more grip at the front but horrendous tire wear still. Also the slipstream been so powerful isn't helping it at all as handling cars can just sit in the slip and power cars cannot break the slip so it killed cars like the Jag that could have used the straights to break the slip from a handling car behind.

Hopefully they do something before we re-pick to try and balance it a little but seen as they did a Gr4 BOP not long ago I won't be expecting anything from them.
 
I’m probably wrong as usual :lol: but it seems that the FF cars are always the meta cars now, at least so far this season they have been (along with Porsche). Speed wasn’t their problem, it was the tires, and after supposedly improving the tire wear for the FF cars, they’re just even faster!

Put them in a high tyre wear race and they will not be META anymore. This stage is low tyre wear - with the exception of Fuji all other races are max 6x in Manufacturer's cup. Also, the tracks selected for this stage of the season are better suited to power/ff cars.
 
Moved up a few spots and finished 10th yesterday at Monza. My QT was not good, like 2 seconds off the top. But managed to get through almost error free. I felt I had a decent race.

I've only done 3 of 5 Nations races so far this season. Missed 1 and quit 1 (because I wasn't good enough). And I only do 1 run each. But all the races I've been in been good and clean. Drivers around me have been noticeably careful. No penalties, some mistakes but not much drama. Sad to read some of the other comments. I guess I should consider myself lucky.
 
I don’t even know what I’m racing for. Even if I were to become, say, the best in the state, it’s not like I’d get anything. I’m still upset over last night. And that just gets me more upset, being upset over videogames. Then I get even more upset considering the idea that GTS “isn’t for me,” as if I’ve been displaced somehow.

Maybe now that my DR has dropped like a rock, it’s time for me to stop playing, and move onto some Ace Combat as I wait for GT7. I just don’t know anymore.
 
I don’t even know what I’m racing for. Even if I were to become, say, the best in the state, it’s not like I’d get anything. I’m still upset over last night. And that just gets me more upset, being upset over videogames. Then I get even more upset considering the idea that GTS “isn’t for me,” as if I’ve been displaced somehow.

Maybe now that my DR has dropped like a rock, it’s time for me to stop playing, and move onto some Ace Combat as I wait for GT7. I just don’t know anymore.

it’s not that serious. It’s just a game. Most of us are not getting anything from it. I just race for fun. I already know I’m not the best nor do I have the time to dedicate to it to be. But it’s the only game I can play for maybe an hour and get out. Most others, I get wrapped up in and just want to see something or try this and next thing you know, it’s 3 hours later and I just don’t have the time for that.

if I win one, great but that actually not my goal. I just want to race.
Yes there are idiots out there but that is real life too.

Don’t worry about it, just have fun.
 
it’s not that serious. It’s just a game. Most of us are not getting anything from it. I just race for fun. I already know I’m not the best nor do I have the time to dedicate to it to be. But it’s the only game I can play for maybe an hour and get out. Most others, I get wrapped up in and just want to see something or try this and next thing you know, it’s 3 hours later and I just don’t have the time for that.

if I win one, great but that actually not my goal. I just want to race.
Yes there are idiots out there but that is real life too.

Don’t worry about it, just have fun.
I think I just need to stake less of my pride on competitive videogames. I also think this is much more of a “me” problem than an issue with GTS. I don’t think it helps that I’ve been struggling with online dating - I feel like I want it to pay dividends already even though it’s only been a little over a week since I started trying it.

Perhaps the bigger issue for me is that I’m trying to find meaning in life through GTS. Or something like that, idk.
 
I completely agree. I think the BoP update we had back at the end of Feb started the ball rolling when handling cars were given a slight boost and power cars a slight power reduction. This already favoured the handling cars who could now sit in the slipstream of a power car and be faster in the corners AND have better tyre wear and fuel consumption.

I'm not sure what the more recent update did but certainly FF cars are now competitive, but at the expense of the FR power cars. The reduced slipstream I think made it even worse for them as overtaking at the end of a straight is harder to do.

I guess however you try and balance it there will always be more favourable manufacturers to go with. The number of Porsches I'm seeing at the moment is ridiculous. I think there were 6 in our race, and I've seen as many as 11 in a single race.

I do feel for you though. Jaguar were good in very recent memory but currently last in the standings. Maybe a change of manufacturer in a couple of weeks could be a good idea.

Just to demonstrate the fuel saving advantage, I gained 8 spots in yesterdays race. 4 of them were during the pitstop phase and another 1 from a Ferrari running out of gas before the line. I wasn't even being particularly careful with the fuel and didn't have a slipstream after lap 2. Its a shame I suck at qualifying :lol:

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In my final race last night, someone in an Alfa did 11 LAPS (technically 10.75, but whatever) before their pit stop, and was leading before their stop, so they ran at least a few of those laps without a slipstream. Meanwhile in my Corvette I could barely get 7 laps (or 7.25 laps) out of a full tank even with slipstream.
 
I think I just need to stake less of my pride on competitive videogames. I also think this is much more of a “me” problem than an issue with GTS. I don’t think it helps that I’ve been struggling with online dating - I feel like I want it to pay dividends already even though it’s only been a little over a week since I started trying it.

Perhaps the bigger issue for me is that I’m trying to find meaning in life through GTS. Or something like that, idk.

Games are meant to be fun and a distraction from everyday life. Maybe even to release some steam or be an escape. I use to play COD and stuff and I knew I wasn’t the greatest at that either. I just wanted to play. Heck, my son is much better at that than me and I accept that. Everyone can’t be the best at everything.
Find what you are good at and that will bring joy and happiness.

everything else is just for fun...
 
I don’t even know what I’m racing for. Even if I were to become, say, the best in the state, it’s not like I’d get anything. I’m still upset over last night. And that just gets me more upset, being upset over videogames. Then I get even more upset considering the idea that GTS “isn’t for me,” as if I’ve been displaced somehow.

Maybe now that my DR has dropped like a rock, it’s time for me to stop playing, and move onto some Ace Combat as I wait for GT7. I just don’t know anymore.

Hey, dude. I know what you're saying and how you're feeling. I've been there. There's come a point with a few games (and then later with gaming in general) where I had to force myself to walk away - because they just weren't fun anymore.

I think it's natural for competitive people to want to push and challenge themselves, to want to measure themselves up against the other people in the game. The danger, I think, is that the competitiveness can become overwhelming. Even now, when I have a good job that's encouraging me to grow and develop my ideas and department, a good marriage, an active life outside of work, I tend to take things like GTS a little too seriously sometimes. I think that's just how people like you and I are wired. When I started playing online (after I told myself more than 8 years ago that I'd never play video games online again) and I was getting thumped and lapped every Race C, I put in hours and hours of practice to improve my skill and line. I improved my time quite a bit, went back to Race C and got lapped again. I had actual tears of frustration.

More recently, I also had a period of DR freefall, as well. It took me a few days to realize that I was contributing to it pretty badly. I kept on pressing and grinding well past the point of it being fun. As my DR dropped lower, I put more pressure on myself to finish on the podium, if not just flat run away with the race. When I wasn't getting punted by less skilled drivers, I was binning myself by trying to push so hard. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm stuck at home all day with our current circumstances. But when I forced myself to take more breaks from the game and put less pressure on myself during the game, I started to enjoy it more again. And the results started to get better again.

I'm still trying to improve my skill level and my DR but I'm also trying to make a conscious effort to do it without putting so much pressure on myself. To make sure it's fun and enjoyable. If you're anything like me - and it sounds like you might be - that may involve taking a break for a little while, I don't know. It may be just re-calibrating things in your head regarding the game. I'm not sure, I just know that I know what you feel like right now and am trying to share some of what I've done to help me get through similar periods.
 
Hey, dude. I know what you're saying and how you're feeling. I've been there. There's come a point with a few games (and then later with gaming in general) where I had to force myself to walk away - because they just weren't fun anymore.

I think it's natural for competitive people to want to push and challenge themselves, to want to measure themselves up against the other people in the game. The danger, I think, is that the competitiveness can become overwhelming. Even now, when I have a good job that's encouraging me to grow and develop my ideas and department, a good marriage, an active life outside of work, I tend to take things like GTS a little too seriously sometimes. I think that's just how people like you and I are wired. When I started playing online (after I told myself more than 8 years ago that I'd never play video games online again) and I was getting thumped and lapped every Race C, I put in hours and hours of practice to improve my skill and line. I improved my time quite a bit, went back to Race C and got lapped again. I had actual tears of frustration.

More recently, I also had a period of DR freefall, as well. It took me a few days to realize that I was contributing to it pretty badly. I kept on pressing and grinding well past the point of it being fun. As my DR dropped lower, I put more pressure on myself to finish on the podium, if not just flat run away with the race. When I wasn't getting punted by less skilled drivers, I was binning myself by trying to push so hard. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm stuck at home all day with our current circumstances. But when I forced myself to take more breaks from the game and put less pressure on myself during the game, I started to enjoy it more again. And the results started to get better again.

I'm still trying to improve my skill level and my DR but I'm also trying to make a conscious effort to do it without putting so much pressure on myself. To make sure it's fun and enjoyable. If you're anything like me - and it sounds like you might be - that may involve taking a break for a little while, I don't know. It may be just re-calibrating things in your head regarding the game. I'm not sure, I just know that I know what you feel like right now and am trying to share some of what I've done to help me get through similar periods.

Yeah. It’s just upsetting when it feels like you’re doing really well, and then you get a losing streak, or you just end up doing so badly you choose to ragequit more races than usual. I’ll never get to DR A at this rate, and I don’t even know if it’d be worth it.

On a side note, is it a good idea to to test tire/fuel strategies in a custom race? Because I think it’d be perfect if they added tire/fuel depletion to free practice.
 
Yeah. It’s just upsetting when it feels like you’re doing really well, and then you get a losing streak, or you just end up doing so badly you choose to ragequit more races than usual. I’ll never get to DR A at this rate, and I don’t even know if it’d be worth it.

On a side note, is it a good idea to to test tire/fuel strategies in a custom race? Because I think it’d be perfect if they added tire/fuel depletion to free practice.

I use a lobby to test tires and fuel. The multiplier in the custom race doesn't go above 10. I suppose with the current string of fairly low tire multipliers, a custom race would be good.
 
I also don’t know if it’s best to qualify with slipstream being a factor, between the (deserved) nerf to it, and not wanting to deal with traffic. Is there also a pattern to the order of which cars leave the pits for qualifying?
 
On a side note, is it a good idea to to test tire/fuel strategies in a custom race? Because I think it’d be perfect if they added tire/fuel depletion to free practice.

If you have the time it absolutely pays off to do some practice lobbies. They're really common, and learning how the car handles with tyre wear and fuel consumption makes doing the race far more predictable. Knowing what the strategy is, practicing it so you can perfect fuel/tyre saving is another!

Is there also a pattern to the order of which cars leave the pits for qualifying?

My belief is its completely random. I haven't been able to work out any kind of pattern to it.
 
Hey, dude. I know what you're saying and how you're feeling. I've been there. There's come a point with a few games (and then later with gaming in general) where I had to force myself to walk away - because they just weren't fun anymore.

I think it's natural for competitive people to want to push and challenge themselves, to want to measure themselves up against the other people in the game. The danger, I think, is that the competitiveness can become overwhelming. Even now, when I have a good job that's encouraging me to grow and develop my ideas and department, a good marriage, an active life outside of work, I tend to take things like GTS a little too seriously sometimes. I think that's just how people like you and I are wired. When I started playing online (after I told myself more than 8 years ago that I'd never play video games online again) and I was getting thumped and lapped every Race C, I put in hours and hours of practice to improve my skill and line. I improved my time quite a bit, went back to Race C and got lapped again. I had actual tears of frustration.

More recently, I also had a period of DR freefall, as well. It took me a few days to realize that I was contributing to it pretty badly. I kept on pressing and grinding well past the point of it being fun. As my DR dropped lower, I put more pressure on myself to finish on the podium, if not just flat run away with the race. When I wasn't getting punted by less skilled drivers, I was binning myself by trying to push so hard. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm stuck at home all day with our current circumstances. But when I forced myself to take more breaks from the game and put less pressure on myself during the game, I started to enjoy it more again. And the results started to get better again.

I'm still trying to improve my skill level and my DR but I'm also trying to make a conscious effort to do it without putting so much pressure on myself. To make sure it's fun and enjoyable. If you're anything like me - and it sounds like you might be - that may involve taking a break for a little while, I don't know. It may be just re-calibrating things in your head regarding the game. I'm not sure, I just know that I know what you feel like right now and am trying to share some of what I've done to help me get through similar periods.


Great post!
I have to say also, after spending an inordinate amount of time on this...
If you’re trying to become better, practice wise what’s most effective for me is snippets. Maybe 15-25 minutes, then take a break.
Never retry lol. Sounds dumb but you’d be surprised of the benefits.
Just lapping endlessly, at some point for me I just tend to get slower and slower.
Also it’s good to watch replays, from diff views.
That’s what Ive found for me. I’m better off running 3-5 laps 100 percent focus over 3 hours lapping, and I get more from those 3 laps.
I so agree tho, sometimes a break is needed so badly.
Fresh mind is so beneficial. If things are stale you gotta do something else until the mood strikes.
Another thing I found interesting was on my alt, I just didn’t care about points...I just raced when I felt like it tried to do well.
That account is now 10k above my previous main.
Great game, but like anything for me if I get too ocd it’s countrrproductive.
I’d rather have five good minutes of practice than 2 hours of half assed over self conscious junk jmo.
 
I also don’t know if it’s best to qualify with slipstream being a factor, between the (deserved) nerf to it, and not wanting to deal with traffic. Is there also a pattern to the order of which cars leave the pits for qualifying?

I'm low B. I find at my level trying to qualify with the slipstream is a gamble. Often, too many don't understand the concept and don't allow the spacing for it to happen. Also, there's a high possibility of people binning it during qualifying. I just let everybody leave the pits before me and try to qualify with clean air.
 
Here were some strategies I thought up for the next set of rounds:

Nations: 7M/3S

Manufacturers: 4H/3H

But what Gr.4 car would be good for Nurburging GP? Maybe the Porsche or the 4C? What about the Huracan?

EDIT: The results are in: I have lost over 6000 DR from my recent peak of 292xx, now down to 231xx, between the two ragequits last night and the piss-poor placement from the one Manufacturers entry I did complete. I’m not even sure if I should keep bothering at this point, except maybe this could mean some higher positions in next week’s Daily Races.
 
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