FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Granadier]

Looks like @Granadier is now e-famous...

I wish they would include the exterior view as well though.

 

[Razgriz2118]

What car is everyone choosing for the Nations race? The NA leaderboards right now have an RCZ as #1, a 4C as #2 and #6, an Evo as #3-#5, #7-#9, and a Megane Trophy as #10, with only 0.3s separating 1-3. For the actual race I'm wondering how tire wear will play in when comparing the four cars.

 

[GopNet]

What car is everyone choosing for the Nations race? The NA leaderboards right now have an RCZ as #1, a 4C as #2 and #6, an Evo as #3-#5, #7-#9, and a Megane Trophy as #10, with only 0.3s separating 1-3. For the actual race I'm wondering how tire wear will play in when comparing the four cars.

TBH I'm not really looking that much into what car makes fastest lap time it's more about choosing the car you know and feel comfortable with for example I hate the Megane Trophy because I'm **** at driving but mostly I can't drive it properly because I can't feel the car. but it's just my personal opinion you might feel good with the Megane My choices are WRX STi and Lancer for now, they both got the same weight/power ratio but wrx got 6 gears instead of lancers 5 but that makes lancer more stable try different cars and find out for yourself

 

[Razgriz2118]

TBH I'm not really looking that much into what car makes fastest lap time it's more about choosing the car you know and feel comfortable with for example I hate the Megane Trophy because I'm **** at driving but mostly I can't drive it properly because I can't feel the car. but it's just my personal opinion you might feel good with the Megane My choices are WRX STi and Lancer for now, they both got the same weight/power ratio but wrx got 6 gears instead of lancers 5 but that makes lancer more stable try different cars and find out for yourself

I definitely intend to test out the cars, I'd just rather not spend the entire day testing because I know I can easily get sucked down that rabbit hole haha. Thanks for your input!

 

[Mistah_MCA]

What car is everyone choosing for the Nations race? The NA leaderboards right now have an RCZ as #1, a 4C as #2 and #6, an Evo as #3-#5, #7-#9, and a Megane Trophy as #10, with only 0.3s separating 1-3. For the actual race I'm wondering how tire wear will play in when comparing the four cars.

I did some testing last night.
Megane Trophy went 8 laps on Softs. BB +2

4C went 7 laps on Softs. BB -2

Lancer went 5 laps on Softs. BB +5

RCZ wen- no. Just no. Stop it.

 

[GopNet]

I did some testing last night.
Megane Trophy went 8 laps on Softs. BB +2

4C went 7 laps on Softs. BB -2

Lancer went 5 laps on Softs. BB +5

RCZ wen- no. Just no. Stop it.

I believe the RCZ is a nightmare on tyres xD especially the front ones i'd say best bet is on 4WD or MR

 

[MIE1992]

For the Gr.3 race at Suzuka, I’m thinking 4S/8M/4H, with the order of tires depending on how I qualify. What do you think?

 

[GTWolverine]

What car is everyone choosing for the Nations race? The NA leaderboards right now have an RCZ as #1, a 4C as #2 and #6, an Evo as #3-#5, #7-#9, and a Megane Trophy as #10, with only 0.3s separating 1-3. For the actual race I'm wondering how tire wear will play in when comparing the four cars.

I'll probably test the Evo, WRX, and Cayman. If I can get the Cayman to be close in times to the 4WD cars, I'll probably use that since it should be kinder on front tires. I might also test the 4C, but while I got the 4C to work well at Brands Hatch a while back, it tried to kill me at DTG, so I'm not expecting good things from it.

 

[GR33N]

I might also test the 4C, but while I got the 4C to work well at Brands Hatch a while back, it tried to kill me at DTG, so I'm not expecting good things from it.

It's been briefly discussed here recently, some of us driving Alfa as Manu noticed that the 4C has become even less stable after the last update...
I don't mind though, as I think it was too OP on twisty tracks before. Just requires a more careful driving style now, I learned it the hard way!

 

[MIE1992]

I believe the RCZ is a nightmare on tyres xD especially the front ones i'd say best bet is on 4WD or MR

What about the Huracan? It’s sort of both 4WD and MR, isn’t it?

 

[GopNet]

What about the Huracan? It’s sort of both 4WD and MR, isn’t it?

check my video from last nations cup that included the huracan - braking bias all the way to 5 to save front tyres
you can see for yourself the tyre wear

 

[MIE1992]

check my video from last nations cup that included the huracan - braking bias all the way to 5 to save front tyres
you can see for yourself the tyre wear

So...it’s good? As long as you set the BB all the way to the rear?

I also wanted some feedback on my proposed Suzuka strategy (4M/4H/8M, with the order depending on qualifying) as well as a strategy I’m thinking about for the Gr.3 race at Sardegna. It’s basically 11M/6H/5S, once again having the order depend on qualifying.

There were also my ideas for strategies for Tues/Weds, respectively being 6M/4S and no-stopping on Hards; I’m not gonna risk losing over 20 seconds pitting in the latter race, haha.

 

[GopNet]

So...it’s good? As long as you set the BB all the way to the rear?

I also wanted some feedback on my proposed Suzuka strategy (4M/4H/8M, with the order depending on qualifying) as well as a strategy I’m thinking about for the Gr.3 race at Sardegna. It’s basically 11M/6H/5S, once again having the order depend on qualifying.

There was also my ideas for strategies for Tues/Weds, respectively being 6M/4S and no-stopping on Hards.

it's not that bad TBH but I've got quite enough of that car for now raced over 600km in one day in one car
i'll give it a go I think

 

[Pigems]

So...it’s good? As long as you set the BB all the way to the rear?

I also wanted some feedback on my proposed Suzuka strategy (4M/4H/8M, with the order depending on qualifying) as well as a strategy I’m thinking about for the Gr.3 race at Sardegna. It’s basically 11M/6H/5S, once again having the order depend on qualifying.

There were also my ideas for strategies for Tues/Weds, respectively being 6M/4S and no-stopping on Hards; I’m not gonna risk losing over 20 seconds pitting in the latter race, haha.

Once you have a base strategy worked out, the best bet is to open or jump into a practice lobby with proper settings and test for yourself. Even in the same car, different people will wear tires and fuel differently based on their personal driving styles.

 

[Dead_Melkor]

Guys, any tips for a newcomer in Nations League/Manufacturer League?

Played many hours on Daily Races, left GTS a few months ago and thinking about trying again, this time "more seriously".

Must say: I don't think I know how both championships works.

 

[MIE1992]

Guys, any tips for a newcomer in Nations League/Manufacturer League?

Played many hours on Daily Races, left GTS a few months ago and thinking about trying again, this time "more seriously".

Must say: I don't think I know how both championships works.

Why don’t we start with some more specific questions? For example, what about the championship structure do you seem to have trouble understanding?

 

[milehighmadd]

What car is everyone choosing for the Nations race? The NA leaderboards right now have an RCZ as #1, a 4C as #2 and #6, an Evo as #3-#5, #7-#9, and a Megane Trophy as #10, with only 0.3s separating 1-3. For the actual race I'm wondering how tire wear will play in when comparing the four cars.

Trophy.

RCZ only gets 3 laps on softs whereas the Trophy/4c is good for 6 or 7... maybe more but I was doing +1 on Trophy.

 

[Dead_Melkor]

Why don’t we start with some more specific questions? For example, what about the championship structure do you seem to have trouble understanding?

If I understood correctly, there is a specific day where races happen (in this case, May 12th). I can register at only one race, and I'll score points based on my performance. At the end of a period of time, which I believe it's May 30th, the driver with most points will be able to participate in the Nations Cup. Is that right?

Also, there are something like "best cars"? I saw some people complaining that drivers are choosing only 2 or 3 models to race.

 

[MIE1992]

What do you think the best Gr.3 car will be for the race at Suzuka? I was thinking something derived from a 4WD car, like the WRX or Lancer Evo. Something that’s good in all those turns.

 

[Razgriz2118]

So, tried out the Lancer, 4C, and Megane Trophy in free practice to see how I liked the feel of them.

Lancer, BB +3: Understeer. Understeers a lot, but is extremely stable through the corners. I can definitely see my tires getting shredded though with how it drives. Best lap was a 2:02.9 with a 2:02.8 optimum but I could only lap around 2:03.7-2:03.9 consistently. I just for the life of me could not figure out how to brake in a way this thing liked.

4C, BB -2: Very agile but also unstable. It has very nice turn in but likes to slide a lot, so I can see the rear tires getting worn out without careful management. Because of the tendacy to slide I couldn't come to terms with it. Best lap was a 2:03.5 with a 2:03.1 optimum but I was lapping in the 2:03.8-2:04.1 range consistently.

Megane Trophy, BB +2: My pick of the three. Has understeer but is very predictable and controllable with trail braking and throttle modulation, which also gives it nice turn in. I also felt it was best on the brakes out of the three. It can slide a little but it doesn't feel as unstable as the 4C was. Best lap was a 2:03.1 with a 2:02.5 optimum and a 2:03.1-2:03.6 consistent lap time range.

Now to go make an Erusean Ace Combat livery for it since Erusea is like an angry France.


EDIT: Decided to try the Cayman out since it's my manufacturer car and there were quite a few people in them during a practice race. With BB at 0, I made a 2:02.7 best lap with a 2:02.4 optimum and I could average 2:03.0-2:03.5 consistently. I might actually go with the Cayman instead because it definitely suits my driving better, it rotates so much more easily via easing off the throttle and light trail braking than the Megane Trophy does, and with tire wear on it wasn't much worse than the Megane Trophy. On both of those cars I could only make Racing Softs last 6 laps before needing to pit.

 

[GTWolverine]

What do you think the best Gr.3 car will be for the race at Suzuka? I was thinking something derived from a 4WD car, like the WRX or Lancer Evo. Something that’s good in all those turns.

Since this race isn't until the weekend, most of us probably won't bother testing it until practice for it opens up after the races tomorrow. You should try testing your own assumptions if you don't want to wait until then.

That being said I'm probably gonna use the WRX because I hate the way most MR cars drive.

 

[Dead_Melkor]

What do you think the best Gr.3 car will be for the race at Suzuka? I was thinking something derived from a 4WD car, like the WRX or Lancer Evo. Something that’s good in all those turns.

Well, that's my question. Is there a "best car" for each track? I really thought that was all about "the car I liked most".
Looking at the top 10 in Nurburgring I see 4C, Mégane/Mégane Trophy, RCZ and Lancer Evo. Can I assume that if I use a 458 Italia, I'll be in disadvantage?

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Unless you are an alien the best car for you is often the one you are most comfortable with and most used to race.
I often do a lot better in the Mustang's because I love to drive them and know how they react and can control and steer with throttle, while the META car often is one I rarely drive and thus have less control over.

 

[MCL1974]

hi guys,

not at home at this moment so missed last weekends races and will also miss the ones coming this week. do miss doing the Manu races but hopefully have the oppertunity to do the one coming weekend.
But fortunately i have access to this forum and been following the conversations here and would like to ask if someone can educate me regarding DS/RS:

I have done app 120 races by now, had one win and about 40 top 5 places and have been ranked B/S for a while now, and it hartly changes,
No matter if i finish third or sixteenth in a race it always seems to stay at the same level. (unless I am disconnected, then I suddenly drop to A? this happened a few times?)

But i see other drivers going from B to C and then back to B again and this several times who have more wins/top 5 places then me. Also saw a driver with app 600 races and more then 300 times he/she won a race who was in C level? it seems odd that someone with those stats is rated lower then me?

so how is that possible and how come my DR/RS level stays so stable?

 

[Pigems]

hi guys,

not at home at this moment so missed last weekends races and will also miss the ones coming this week. do miss doing the Manu races but hopefully have the oppertunity to do the one coming weekend.
But fortunately i have access to this forum and been following the conversations here and would like to ask if someone can educate me regarding DS/RS:

I have done app 120 races by now, had one win and about 40 top 5 places and have been ranked B/S for a while now, and it hartly changes,
No matter if i finish third or sixteenth in a race it always seems to stay at the same level. (unless I am disconnected, then I suddenly drop to A? this happened a few times?)

But i see other drivers going from B to C and then back to B again and this several times who have more wins/top 5 places then me. Also saw a driver with app 600 races and more then 300 times he/she won a race who was in C level? it seems odd that someone with those stats is rated lower then me?

so how is that possible and how come my DR/RS level stays so stable?

Basically, because you play properly and don’t cheat/tank. The guy with the C DR rating and 300 wins most likely tanks his DR frequently to put himself into easier lobbies to get meaningless wins. I’d be willing to bet his SR graph looks like a seismograph readout during a very large earthquake.

If you put your own name, or someone else’s in the the search bar and hit search, you can see any players entire GT history. All player stats are public in this game.

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search

 

[Dead_Melkor]

Basically, because you play properly and don’t cheat/tank. The guy with the C DR rating and 300 wins most likely tanks his DR frequently to put himself into easier lobbies to get meaningless wins. I’d be willing to bet his SR graph looks like a seismograph readout during a very large earthquake.

If you put your own name, or someone else’s in the the search bar and hit search, you can see any players entire GT history. All player stats are public in this game.

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search

Do you know why I had such downgrade in my DR (13k to 6k)? Never paid too much attention to it, but sooner this year I realised I was back to C - even though I wasn't playing GTS that much, and mostly lobby matches with some friends...

 

[Pigems]

Do you know why I had such downgrade in my DR (13k to 6k)? Never paid too much attention to it, but sooner this year I realised I was back to C - even though I wasn't playing GTS that much, and mostly lobby matches with some friends...

Did your SR go way down at the same time on your graph? If so, it was a DR reset, your SR cannot be more then 2 letter levels below you DR, or the DR gets reset to match the SR.

 

[MCL1974]

Basically, because you play properly and don’t cheat/tank. The guy with the C DR rating and 300 wins most likely tanks his DR frequently to put himself into easier lobbies to get meaningless wins. I’d be willing to bet his SR graph looks like a seismograph readout during a very large earthquake.

If you put your own name, or someone else’s in the the search bar and hit search, you can see any players entire GT history. All player stats are public in this game.

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?profile=search

thanks for that info, i checked the site and my stats are as pasted below. you can see the disconnections i had, but fail to see why I get "punished" for these?
So if i would like yo go back to C all i have to do is hit others on purpose and have poor finishes? (no intention to actually do so, i am a gentlemen racer and far to keen on stats to actually do so! feel that a low B is my place to be)

on the other hand; it seems my SR is far above average and it perhaps shows that I might be a bit too polity during races? ( i have a tendency to pull out of a fight on track if the other one is very aggresive or much faster)

 

[Dead_Melkor]

Did your SR go way down at the same time on your graph? If so, it was a DR reset, your SR cannot be more then 2 letter levels below you DR, or the DR gets reset to match the SR.

Nope

I don't remember any race that I messed up so badly, but apparently I had.

Tried to do a few Daily Races C this afternoon and Great Scott, it was impossible to finish a race without being bumped.

Every. Single. Race.

 

[Pigems]

Nope

I don't remember any race that I messed up so badly, but apparently I had.

Tried to do a few Daily Races C this afternoon and Great Scott, it was impossible to finish a race without being bumped.

Every. Single. Race.

Well you definitely didn’t get a DR reset by seeing that graph. Did you quit a few races or have some bad finishes that day? If you quit a race, the game treats it as if you finished last and you lose more DR.