FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[barak181]

Here were some strategies I thought up for the next set of rounds:

Nations: 7M/3S

Manufacturers: 4H/3H

But what Gr.4 car would be good for Nurburging GP? Maybe the Porsche or the 4C? What about the Huracan?

The Nations NA leaderboard is currently filled with handling cars - Trophy, WRX, Lancer. I've done a few laps this morning and have so far found my best time in the Audi TT. I'll probably try a few more cars before I settle on one, though.

I haven't tested tire wear yet but I'd bet you could get more than 3 laps out of the softs.

 

[MIE1992]

The Nations NA leaderboard is currently filled with handling cars - Trophy, WRX, Lancer. I've done a few laps this morning and have so far found my best time in the Audi TT. I'll probably try a few more cars before I settle on one, though.

I haven't tested tire wear yet but I'd bet you could get more than 3 laps out of the softs.

I just don’t know how much I wanna risk it. I tried changing to softs last night at the race at Tokyo South, after completing 5 laps, and during the last few laps, I was having a really bad time. Maybe I should’ve pitted later, since I think it was a 12-lap race.

Also, why do the Hyundais suck so much? Why do they keep appearing at World Tour events when they always come in last at each event? I think they need a slight buff via less added weight.

 

[Pigems]

I just don’t know how much I wanna risk it. I tried changing to softs last night at the race at Tokyo South, after completing 5 laps, and during the last few laps, I was having a really bad time. Maybe I should’ve pitted later, since I think it was a 12-lap race.

Also, why do the Hyundais suck so much? Why do they keep appearing at World Tour events when they always come in last at each event? I think they need a slight buff via less added weight.

From what I’ve heard, cars like Hyundai make it to WT events because Aliens get together and sign with certain manufacturers to give them all the best chances of making it to events. Or something along those lines. Only the top 3 from each Qualified Manu make it to WT, so having 4 Aliens sign with one Manu would not be smart for them.

 

[MIE1992]

From what I’ve heard, cars like Hyundai make it to WT events because Aliens get together and sign with certain manufacturers to give them all the best chances of making it to events. Or something along those lines. Only the top 3 from each Qualified Manu make it to WT, so having 4 Aliens sign with one Manu would not be smart for them.

But why Hyundai? Is it because nobody else picks Hyundai? Which, in turn is because the Hyundais suck?

 

[barak181]

But why Hyundai? Is it because nobody else picks Hyundai? Which, in turn is because the Hyundais suck?

I remember @F4H Super GT doing a video a while back where he drove the the Gr 3 Hyundai, I think it was. I forget exactly but I think he was in one of those I'm kinda bored moods and looking for something different, so he drove a car he normally craps on. By the end of the video he was like, "This car isn't as terrible as I originally thought, I might have to take back some of things I said about it."

So, I don't know. Maybe Hyundai because it's not necessarily all that bad and lets three more aliens get to a WT.

 

[watto79]

EDIT: The results are in: I have lost over 6000 DR from my recent peak of 292xx, now down to 231xx, between the two ragequits last night

For a start..... don't rage quit! That's literally handing your DR over to others for free.

Even when it's going badly, hang in there. You never know whats going to happen up ahead. And if you're really done with the race just pull in to the pits and wait. You'll at least minimise your DR losses from the other quiters (and there's always at least one).

 

[The359]

I think the Hyundai is simply a stable, all-rounder car that isn't great at anything, but also isn't horrible at anything. So yeah, if you pick some cars they're great at some tracks and horrible at others, like my Aston Martins. With the Hyundai, if you can pull your weight to get the most out of the car, you can have a nice stable run throughout the season.

Typically championships aren't won with victories, they are won with consistency.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Yeah. It’s just upsetting when it feels like you’re doing really well, and then you get a losing streak, or you just end up doing so badly you choose to ragequit more races than usual. I’ll never get to DR A at this rate, and I don’t even know if it’d be worth it.

On a side note, is it a good idea to to test tire/fuel strategies in a custom race? Because I think it’d be perfect if they added tire/fuel depletion to free practice.

Never rage quit. Never quit. The only DNF's I got are from dq, I never in 800+ races quit.
Last FIA I ran was Laguna Seca, I got lapped by four or five players. Still ended p13 because others quit and a few had tire penalties to put me ahead of them.
And don't focus on getting A or trophies, focus on enjoying to race.
At the moment I am trying to learn to run MT, it has cut my DR in half but that's not a problem, because it will eventually level somewhere.if that's at C or B or A doesn't matter, as long as I get to race with people who are at an equal level. A great battle for 10th is better than a lights to flag win with no fight. The win is a nice bonus but it's not a big deal, the good racing are.
Now, if your way of looking at the game is that you have to climb and win all the time then take a break. Plant a garden, pet an animal, build a chair or a table. Make something that is worth something instead. Then come back and race for fun. Because if its not fun it's not worth your time. It's not your job, it's not something that is"the right thing to do". It's merely a game. It's like sitting down with friends playing monopoly, you want to win but the important thing is the people you are having fun with.

 

[GopNet]

so my effort from nations cup is here 1 out of 3 planned but don't know why youtube worsens the video quality by that much

 

[Pigems]

I think I’m gonna hop on the Megane Train for Tuesday’s race.

 

[milehighmadd]

Manu is 6m/1h or vice versa for most cars. If you can get less than 3s per lap on hards, more power to no stop it being that pit is 21-22s.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I think I’m gonna hop on the Megane Train for Tuesday’s race.

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If you can’t beat em…

 

[MIE1992]

Manu is 6m/1h or vice versa for most cars. If you can get less than 3s per lap on hards, more power to no stop it being that pit is 21-22s.

What do you mean, “less then 3s per lap”? You mean compared to our best times on the mediums? I actually might try no-stopping if fuel isn’t an issue.

What about doing 6M/4S for Nations? I don’t want to spend too much time on the softs. And what about fuel?

 

[kirethk]

so my effort from nations cup is here 1 out of 3 planned but don't know why youtube worsens the video quality by that much

Quality looks pretty good to me, but what bitrate are you encoding at?

 

[05XR8]

Nations will surely be the Slophy and 4C. Sprinkle a WRX and maybe a couple AMGs. I'll be in the five-point-Oh(one second off bottom Top 10). Supra is waiting for a boost upgrade from GR.

Did one lap at la Sarthe. 4 minutes flat. 6 six seconds off P1, 3.6seconds off P10.
My speeds on the straights
are: 281kmh/277/273/279(before Indianapolis). Have about 250-300rpm left, before fuel cutoff.

Race pace will be interesting.

 

[GopNet]

Quality looks pretty good to me, but what bitrate are you encoding at?

I'll attach a screenshot of details but I see a massive difference between watching from HDD or even on TV via flashdrive and YouTube maybe I'll just give it some time to process it correctly it's quite a long video

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• GopNet
• May 11, 2020

 

[Peddler13]

I don’t even know what I’m racing for. Even if I were to become, say, the best in the state, it’s not like I’d get anything. I’m still upset over last night. And that just gets me more upset, being upset over videogames. Then I get even more upset considering the idea that GTS “isn’t for me,” as if I’ve been displaced somehow.

Maybe now that my DR has dropped like a rock, it’s time for me to stop playing, and move onto some Ace Combat as I wait for GT7. I just don’t know anymore.

The problem is attitude about it all.
Trying to be the best is quite sadistic, in an unconscious way. Even if you do manage to become ranked number one, you are, subconsciously, wanting everyone else who is vying to be number one to not be number one, in essence, feel like you do now. It is a zero sum game.
This is an amateur competition that any person and their dog can enter. It cannot be taken too seriously.
I think the problem is driving enjoyment and entertainment from the races. I had this problem for a long time and it wasn't the game that changes, it was my attitude and approach to it all.
For these races I do 3-4 hours of practice, mostly in custom arcade races. That is where I derive most of my enjoyment! Sometimes I think of not even doing the races because it will probably be nothing like all the practice I have done.
Lucky they only count a few of our races where we manage to get a bit lucky!

 

[05XR8]

The problem is attitude about it all.
Trying to be the best is quite sadistic, in an unconscious way. Even if you do manage to become ranked number one, you are, subconsciously, wanting everyone else who is vying to be number one to not be number one, in essence, feel like you do now. It is a zero sum game.
This is an amateur competition that any person and their dog can enter. It cannot be taken too seriously.
I think the problem is driving enjoyment and entertainment from the races. I had this problem for a long time and it wasn't the game that changes, it was my attitude and approach to it all.
For these races I do 3-4 hours of practice, mostly in custom arcade races. That is where I derive most of my enjoyment! Sometimes I think of not even doing the races because it will probably be nothing like all the practice I have done.
Lucky they only count a few of our races where we manage to get a bit lucky!

It's the nature of competition. The menatlity to accept outcomes and move forward. Bettering yourself relates to mentality as well as on track performance. @MIE1992 keep these things in mind. These virtual events are reality, but can you imagine a real life racer, that has to eat and continues to come last every race? Look at Daniel RIcciardo. A potential champion. He may never win another race for the rest of his career. That's mentally taxing.

I did a reset and stepped away from the game and social media for almost a week. Started a new game and only have cars associated with Ford. This is my approach. It's not extreme, but a realistic scenario I decided to try. I'm a Ford contracted racer and can only race Ford branded products. Sucks for me when the next Gr.1, Gr.2, SF19 events surface, but I'm fine with this.

Challenged myself to accept I can't participate in every race on offer. I'm sure I can do something else in the mean time. Stay up!

Edit: Ready.

 

[MIE1992]

I think it’s that I’m looking for an endgame, whether it’s reaching DR A or getting the trophies. I also think I struggle with trying to enjoy the game for its own sake, instead of through always getting better DR or more poles/wins. Maybe it’s a generational thing, where when I was growing up, you could 100% a game, but now it’s all just chasing ever-shifting goals and skilled matchmaking. I don’t know if I can enjoy GTS when I’m not winning, but I don’t know if I want to give up, either.

I’m still a bit humiliated and upset that I’ve lost 6000 DR so fast, after being so close to DR A, and having three really bad FIA entries on Saturday, two of which involved rage-quitting. I just feel tempted to give up GTS altogether and wait for GT7. I don’t know if this game is for me - or even the idea of ranked multiplayer. I feel like I struggle with the idea of emphasizing the journey over the destination, and with instant (or at least unrealistically quick) gratification in my life.

I mean, I almost feel like I’d be even more humiliated if I just quit GTS now, as if I don’t really want to give up. But it’s not normal for me to be in tears twice within a month or so over videogames at all, let alone the same game in the form of GTS, and my performance within it. My sister and parents tell me that if I’m not always having fun, I should stop playing. But I feel like I do have fun sometimes, just not when I have an entry where everything that could go wrong, does, and multiple times in a row.

EDIT: I wish I knew how to just chill the hell out, and learn from my mistakes. But it upsets me that it very well may be better for my mental health to just quit. And especially on such a sour note.

EDIT2: I’m just really angry right now, overall, but especially over how poorly my FIA entries went on Saturday and how much DR I lost. I honestly don’t know how to keep my cool, here. I still feel like throwing my controller at the wall.

 

[The_Tullster]

It's like sitting down with friends playing monopoly, you want to win but the important thing is the people you are having fun with.

Never a truer word was spoken!

don't know why youtube worsens the video quality by that much

Like many streaming services, YouTube dynamically adjusts picture quality to stay within available bandwidth (though not nearly as elegantly as Netflix does). If your stream is being throttled at any point on the route between YouTube's server and your device, the quality will drop even if you manually select a high quality display mode. They do this to limit how many buffering pauses the viewer experiences.
Edit: It looks to me like YouTube also use a lossy compression algorithm. This will affect picture quality regardless of resolution and is particularly evident on videos with rapidly changing scenery.

 

[LVS_1986]

Look at Daniel RIcciardo. A potential champion. He may never win another race for the rest of his career. That's mentally taxing.

Look at Niko Hulkenberg, he almost got podium for the first time in his career last years Hockenheim, and crashed...

 

[05XR8]

Look at Niko Hulkenberg, he almost got podium for the first time in his career last years Hockenheim, and crashed...

For sure. That's life.

 

[koshmare]

Round 6 hot laps

 

[Hasnain282]

2.4s off the fastest Honda at Le Mans I know that's about right considering my usual pace and the length of track but damn that's a lot of time

 

[Pigems]

2.4s off the fastest Honda at Le Mans I know that's about right considering my usual pace and the length of track but damn that's a lot of time

I’d be willing to bet the 4C is even farther off pace there.


Edit: On another note, I see the new DR cap is inflating the top split scores quite a bit. 433 is insane for one race, anyone outside the top few guys really doesn’t have a hope in hell of making an event now. Not that there was much hope before, but there’s even less now.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I’d be willing to bet the 4C is even farther off pace there.


Edit: On another note, I see the new DR cap in inflating the top split scores quite a bit. 433 is insane for one race, anyone outside the top few guys really doesn’t have a hope in hell of making an event now. Not that there was much hope before, but there’s even less now.

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Those were Top 16 races that had additional points added, right? Still, that is insanely high.

 

[Pigems]

Those were Top 16 races that had additional points added, right? Still, that is insanely high.

I’m not sure, but that would make sense if they were. My top 2 scores combined only get me to 454.

 

[Hasnain282]

I’d be willing to bet the 4C is even farther off pace there.


Edit: On another note, I see the new DR cap in inflating the top split scores quite a bit. 433 is insane for one race, anyone outside the top few guys really doesn’t have a hope in hell of making an event now. Not that there was much hope before, but there’s even less now.

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Fastest Alfa is 1s off the Fastest Honda, though don't know how quick that Alfa driver is


The 433 was a top 16 race, the 382 was thanks to the increase in DR cap. Expect the next top 16 to be around 470 points

 

[Famine]

Looks like @Granadier is now e-famous...

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Well sadly I elected to bow out of the championships due to a very poor performance (my own feelings) with the rounds that took place at Dragon Trail Seaside (Manufacturer's Cup) and I wasn't feeling very happy afterwards due to game server issues/corrupt local data so I am bowing out for
the time being.

You can see my last video's here:








I may be back but feeling a burn out on video games at the moment so trying to do other things till the vibe returns!