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[C_Raccoon23]

The final Nations slot for me was truly something else, beginning with this utter joke of a race start:



It took everything in me not to rage quit after that, especially since I qualified 12th, the highest starting position I got all day for this race. But I'm glad I went through with it. Long story short, I clawed my way up and managed to finish 10th, which I was happy to take given the circumstances.

But what was hilarious was the post-race chat. Got called a "butthole" by one super salty player who started 3rd but got taken out on turn 1 and dropped to 15th. They decided to vent their frustration out on a few of the other racers by making them crash and also tried to block me on lap 7 near the start/finish line. But they bottled turn 1 on the final lap, causing them to spin out and finish 18th. Instant karma.

With this now behind me, I plan on doing the next two Manufacturer rounds as I've been neglecting that series lately.

 

[GTWolverine]

Lol forgot how to drive and couldn't get a single good lap in. Qualified 16th on my only timed lap in which I threw it away in the penultimate corner. Let's see how the race goes, but anything less than a podium is literally pointless.

Turned that stupid 16th into 6th (still best of 2 Corvettes). I seem to be great at screwing up qualifying during races I should be good at and easily be scoring my best points at (like throwing away an easy win last weekend in the F1500T-A). Unfortunately 167 points is literally worthless like I mentioned. Started on Mediums that I removed at Lap 2. Got held up a little bit fighting slower cars but for the most part they crashed themselves out of my way. A Cayman and BMW that were in 13th and 14th took themselves out of the equation when the Cayman ran wide at the penultimate corner then spun across the nose of the M4, letting me pass both of them. Then when running in 13th towards the end of the race, a pack of 6 cars in front of me all crashed spectacularly at the chicane, and I found myself in 7th. After passing the TT I'd been right behind when "The Big One" occurred, I started running down the pack that had 2nd-5th, thinking I had a shot at taking most of them when they pitted...only they didn't pit. Either they pitted when I hadn't noticed, or they went the entire race on Mediums. I also somehow gained several hundred DR despite having door #1 and throwing the race away.

It was a good, but worthless recovery, so no meaningful points from my favorite road course. 3 races, and 3 different times I found myself within visual distance of the positions I needed to actually score good points, but that's all I ever got. That also means no cracking the Top 100 in Manufacturers this week. I have absolutely no expectations of doing well in the Corvette at Sardegna, since I couldn't qualify higher than last place the last time we raced there in the Gr. 3 version.

I honestly have no idea how I managed to win at Fuji when I haven't been able to stop driving like such a 🤬 idiot in qualifying.

 

[Trone_Colby]

@HaydenFan69 @mobilmasher

The short video of some of the drama

 

[KosmoKazi]

@KosmoKazi dude I feel even worse for you now that I've seen the replay. At first I thought it was track limits, and I briefly considered not passing you up the hill but, you know, changed my mind.

You really deserved that podium, and it was great fun trying to chase you leaders down. Having started 8th, by the time I got into 5th, I was just far enough behind you guys to have lost the draft. I would get close on occasion but that was about it. Again, great to race with you in one my most enjoyable races of the season.



So my hard earned 4th gives me 147 points, for my second highest score of the season, and a great night of racing in both series' tonight.

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No worries... as you saw, I moved aside as to not slow you down, after I got shoved off... you had no reason to give the position back! I was actually gonna 'earn' that penalty that I got, if I got beside him, but it was not possible... in the grand scheme, it wasn't the worst, and once again I was too polite and it cost me, but you just never know. In hindsight, maybe I should have blocked the Subaru and MADE him move me, for that position, and the worst that would happen was the same... we had all built up quite a gap to the rest of the field.

It really was one of the best and most fun races though... we were fast up front and the strategy we played turned out in our favor. Built up a gap to the rest and had our own race from 5th-1st... I love this track, and despite the rough stuff at the end, I was happy with the result. Especially after the first try today, when I was held up by dummies in the qualifying and again in the race... the good result in the second attempt, in a better lobby, validated that my result in the earlier race was really the product of those other drivers getting in the way...

Congrats on the good race, I know that I'm happy with the points return and having sat out the Nations race... playing the long game with my improving DR = more FIA points strategy for the remainder of the season.

PS: didn’t you start the season as a Porsche driver? Didn’t recall you being in the AMG earlier....

I did take my out anger on the hapless people in my Alt account race later in the evening though. Won by 8 seconds in a Corvette after walking away from pole position. 18:58 total time. Never even saw anyone in my mirror after the first turn. Apologies to that grid for crashing the lower DR lobby! (But it felt good.)

Yamagiwa Race 22 (11min Race Edit)
I had a fun race.Im pretty strong on this track. Good to see friendly faces such as @KosmoKazi and @Lewmatic on the grid.
I had a good quali and started 5th. My strategy was to race Soft for 10 and then change to the Medium.
Well, lo and behold when I pitted in the end I ended up loosing two spots because of two drivers (The BMW and the Audi that I had battled) with different strategies as me. The Audi did a no stop on medium and the BMS was pitting on lap 7. He was very fast as he passed me when I was in the pit even though he had a 1S penalty on the straight !
All in all, good points that should improve my standing in the championship.

You did have a good qualifying session... nice! I was really hoping that you and I and @Lewmatic would have the chance to run together in the race, but as it turned out, you were miles ahead. Nice work, it's always great if the first slot race turns out in your favor. I'll check out your YouTube video tomorrow!

 

[HaydenFan69]

@HaydenFan69 @mobilmasher

The short video of some of the drama

Shakes head in disgust. Glad I only managed a few corners near each.

 

[afc5150]

The dude in the yellow Audi(?) is Mr. Le Sarthe himself. Or as I like to call him when I see him "GT Sport's Dirtiest Driver" in pre race lobbies.

Typical DR and SR farmer. Between FIA races where he usually gets a reset, he'll enter dailies to get back up to usually A/S just to cause havoc in the next round of FIA events.

 

[KosmoKazi]

@HaydenFan69 @mobilmasher

The short video of some of the drama

Wow. That’s a very unfortunate lobby.

it’s a shame to have races wasted by that garbage. Has no place in the game and when it’s repeated by the same people, just irks you nothing can be done about it,

 

[deviln3]

Manufacturers Cup was going well. Qualified 12, worked up to 9th with a plan of no stopper.

But then got in to this racing incident.


Whos fault was it? I am biased obviously, I think I gave enough space.. but after the race I feel like I should have backed off. Would have finished in top 10 if I gave up that battle.

Edit: I agree with you guys, I should have backed off. Lesson learned.

 

[Redneckchef]

I meant post a pic of your new doggo, similar to the Cat Tax

Here you go. The cuddly lump herself. As my copilot last night she fell asleep on my feet during bathurst when I could have used a second set of eyes.

@deviln3 that is a hard call, but I made a call in my race to feather the throttle, get in line and use the run to come back next big turn. A lesson I learned after mistakes just like that during the dailies. Eh, it happens, especially hard during the heat of the moment. Still just a racing incident. I did manage to go through there 2 wide when I was well ahead and the other person didnt give, but it was a real pucker moment

Edit:

My co driver asleep on the job.

 

[GTWolverine]

Manufacturers Cup was going well. Qualified 12, worked up to 9th with a plan of no stopper.

But then got in to this racing incident.


Whos fault was it? I am biased obviously, I think I gave enough space.. but after the race I feel like I should have backed off. Would have finished in top 10 if I gave up that battle.

It's close, but I think you should've backed out. It looked like both of you were expecting the other one to back out, but personally I think it would've been quicker for the both of you if you'd yielded, since he had the momentum and the better line into the corner. With the tight line you were forced to take, you would've probably slid into them no matter how much room they left you.

 

[kevinddr]

Nice Manufacturer's Cup today with this epic full lap of punting from a Star Player! Thanks mate, good waste of a day. Absymal behavior for a competent player in my opinion. Was pretty stoked to have nearly a full race of 1:41s in traffic but it was all for naught.

 

[Redneckchef]

Nice Manufacturer's Cup today with this epic full lap of punting from a Star Player! Thanks mate, good waste of a day. Absymal behavior for a competent player in my opinion. Was pretty stoked to have nearly a full race of 1:41s in traffic but it was all for naught.

Yeah, I was originally under the impression that this sort of stuff was less common in FIA than dailies, but after having had at least 3 races end where I dont get points thanks to someone punting me off (not counting racing incidents which are always going to happen) I am wondering. Seems like some people really cant accept getting passed at all. I can understand getting annoyed, but if they got there with no or extremely minimal contact I have to take it and work to pass back. Why cant others? Short fuses on some of these "racers."

 

[Ashthebash]

So, for the race at Yamagiwa, should I have done a lap on Mediums to start, then do the rest on Softs?

Starting 17th, yes, because you'll come out at the back in clean air and have a faster car. If you were say, 10th, then it would have been worth doing the whole thing on mediums. Holding track position and hoping to gain when the others pitted

So what's everyone's thinking for Nations at RBR? I'll go and do some testing shortly but my first thought has been the Mclaren F1, probably the quickest Gr.3 car in a straight line and bound to be strong because of it. Tyre life on the other hand, that left rear is going to take some punishment

 

[kjeldsen]

*Edit*

 

[05XR8]

Starting 17th, yes, because you'll come out at the back in clean air and have a faster car. If you were say, 10th, then it would have been worth doing the whole thing on mediums. Holding track position and hoping to gain when the others pitted

So what's everyone's thinking for Nations at RBR? I'll go and do some testing shortly but my first thought has been the Mclaren F1, probably the quickest Gr.3 car in a straight line and bound to be strong because of it. Tyre life on the other hand, that left rear is going to take some punishment

I'm going with the always stable RC F. Always goes good at RBR. Did fantastic in the wet race. We'll see.

 

[Lill_Turtle]

It was all clear from there. The GTR was P2 and it was on mediums and I was on softs. I was getting a good gap on it to pit and the lap 10 for meds and win!

Congratulations! I was thinking whether to enter or not with Toyota, decided to do it which was a mistake, couldn't find the pace enough to compete, ended 15th. Now I can see it wasn't the car, it was me

 

[Redneckchef]

I'm going with the always stable RC F. Always goes good at RBR. Did fantastic in the wet race. We'll see.

Honestly, that was my go to Gr 3 for the whole first year, but now it is like I have forgotten how to wring speed out of it. I always found it good soight have to re learn. Then again, I seem to have issues with the curvy bits at RBR.

 

[Ashthebash]

I'm going with the always stable RC F. Always goes good at RBR. Did fantastic in the wet race. We'll see.

Well I've done a 20 minute practice in the Mclaren and got a 1:28.2, which seems solid looking at current EMEA top 10. I'll try a couple of others then see what the tyre life is like. Never driven the RC F! I'm extremely inexperienced regarding some tracks/cars!!

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Well.. ran Manu in a low B lobby. Had door #1, qualfying as 13, that's never good.
But I made up two spots during the race at least. Points too low to make a difference, lost 200 DR.
But the amount of people trying to stick their nose where it doesn't belong....
At least 3 crashes occurred because I was ahead and someone tried to go double wide through the chikane or the uphill esses...
All 3 was in my mirror, because they expected me to yield. I was no stopping on mediums and they where on softs....
So why don't they go for a later apex and pass on the straight??
Well, this time it was their loss, I yield if they got the line, overlap or it will slow me down not to.
Otherwise not.

 

[05XR8]

Well I've done a 20 minute practice in the Mclaren and got a 1:28.2, which seems solid looking at current EMEA top 10. I'll try a couple of others then see what the tyre life is like. Never driven the RC F! I'm extremely inexperienced regarding some tracks/cars!!

Haven't set a time. Just going to jump in in race day.

I did set a time in Manu though. Running the GR.4 RC F with a 24.719. .040 off the next RC F. Still praising the suspension. So smooth.

 

[x5abotagex86]

Well my 2nd and last Manu last night, I got the blackscreen, again, and didn’t qualify! Oh no! Dam you “car settings”!!!!!

Was much more pleasant start this time though with no rough stuff, I was the only one to start on the corner and didn’t have a good run lol.

Spent most the race catching up... Tid bits of traffic here n there but pretty lonely again.

Took a track limit penalty on lap 5(I think) and was coming up on traffic so I pit for softs for the hell of it.

Lots of carnage ahead of my last two laps. Got a few spots from it but caught a penalty hitting the bumper of someone recovering from wreck on last lap.

Some wishy washy stuff at the last hairpin, wish I saved the replay =

Going into the last hairpin a Stang was slow and outside, so I went inside (it WAS a lunge for sure) but I felt pretty confident I had the line. End up making a little contact (no penalty for either of us)

I DID hold a very nice n tight line though, maybe he didn’t see me, or was bunched up and had no where to go, I don’t know...

he flashed me quite a bit, clearly not impressed. I’d have to watch the replay idk.. but I did NOT yield since I had to serve a penalty around the next turn, right before the line, and he got his spot back, along with a few other people passing me.

Felt ok to go Q20 too finish P12, and I could’ve done better. Still don’t know how I feel about the contact, but I’ll take it as being my fault, I said sorry post game.

Still a little bummed. Never raced track before today, and had figured it out with some practice and was feeling good. But again I got next to nil for Manu points, so it was more for fun and experience!

this is my FIA “rookie” season and I’m not invested by any means.

 

[roamingbard13]

Well my 2nd and last Manu last night, I got the blackscreen, again, and didn’t qualify! Oh no! Dam you “car settings”!!!!!

I had this happen back in the first round at a track I had podium speed at. So annoying! I ended up resetting my router and modem, and the issue hasn't happened since.

 

[GTWolverine]

Nice Manufacturer's Cup today with this epic full lap of punting from a Star Player! Thanks mate, good waste of a day. Absymal behavior for a competent player in my opinion. Was pretty stoked to have nearly a full race of 1:41s in traffic but it was all for naught.

I was a few seconds behind that group, and I knew things would kick off when I saw how bunched up everyone was getting, but I still couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that entire pack basically explode at the chicane. That incident was pretty much the only reason I was able to salvage a Top 10 from that race. I was the red, black, and green 'Vette that went by in the distance towards the end of that clip. I've been in quite a few races with that guy, and while I've never had an incident with him, in pretty much every post-race chat he gets verbally reamed by multiple people...

 

[KosmoKazi]

Well my 2nd and last Manu last night, I got the blackscreen, again, and didn’t qualify! Oh no! Dam you “car settings”!!!!!

Was much more pleasant start this time though with no rough stuff, I was the only one to start on the corner and didn’t have a good run lol.

Spent most the race catching up... Tid bits of traffic here n there but pretty lonely again.

Took a track limit penalty on lap 5(I think) and was coming up on traffic so I pit for softs for the hell of it.

Lots of carnage ahead of my last two laps. Got a few spots from it but caught a penalty hitting the bumper of someone recovering from wreck on last lap.

Some wishy washy stuff at the last hairpin, wish I saved the replay =

Going into the last hairpin a Stang was slow and outside, so I went inside (it WAS a lunge for sure) but I felt pretty confident I had the line. End up making a little contact (no penalty for either of us)

I DID hold a very nice n tight line though, maybe he didn’t see me, or was bunched up and had no where to go, I don’t know...

he flashed me quite a bit, clearly not impressed. I’d have to watch the replay idk.. but I did NOT yield since I had to serve a penalty around the next turn, right before the line, and he got his spot back, along with a few other people passing me.

Felt ok to go Q20 too finish P12, and I could’ve done better. Still don’t know how I feel about the contact, but I’ll take it as being my fault, I said sorry post game.

Still a little bummed. Never raced track before today, and had figured it out with some practice and was feeling good. But again I got next to nil for Manu points, so it was more for fun and experience!

this is my FIA “rookie” season and I’m not invested by any means.

Some people might suggest that if you are sitting on a penalty, and holding someone up, it would be best to yield that spot, as you are holding up someone who will be going around you anyway, especially if that guy is also under pressure from behind, where your pace is putting him in harm's way. I can see it both ways, since from his point of view, he knows the penalty means he's getting around anyway, if he just stays close without passing you. But I'm curious what the prevailing thought is. I'll often slide aside if I know I'm keeping someone squeezed between me and another behind him, if I have a penalty to serve (most cases). Because getting dumped or being hit at the front of a chain reaction seems not worth it, and it seems more sporting.

 

[x5abotagex86]

Some people might suggest that if you are sitting on a penalty, and holding someone up, it would be best to yield that spot, as you are holding up someone who will be going around you anyway, especially if that guy is also under pressure from behind, where your pace is putting him in harm's way. I can see it both ways, since from his point of view, he knows the penalty means he's getting around anyway, if he just stays close without passing you. But I'm curious what the prevailing thought is. I'll often slide aside if I know I'm keeping someone squeezed between me and another behind him, if I have a penalty to serve (most cases). Because getting dumped or being hit at the front of a chain reaction seems not worth it, and it seems more sporting.

Yeah didn’t add in the post that in the moment I may have forgot about my penalty until it was an excuse not too slow... otherwise would have hung back, but it was a cluster of people recovering from carnage, so who knows what would have happened then! Lol thanks for input

 

[Jwptexas]

Nice Manufacturer's Cup today with this epic full lap of punting from a Star Player! Thanks mate, good waste of a day. Absymal behavior for a competent player in my opinion. Was pretty stoked to have nearly a full race of 1:41s in traffic but it was all for naught.

I didn't realize we were in the same race! That lobby was a disaster.... I finally managed to qualify well and up into 3rd on lap 1 then get punted in the chicane back down to 6th. Then get run wide twice by the same person and completely off the track, hit wall and spun. Just decided to quit that race, didn't see the point that guy was swerving back and fourth trying to keep me in his rear view.

 

[Lewmatic]

Took me 3 tries to get it right. First slot wasn't driving well and started 20th and forgot to start on the mediums so ran the softs until the last lap to change and finished 16th was looking forward to racing with @KosmoKazi and @CurbHog but I wasn't doing anything right.
Second slot went a lot better until the 9th lap with two Porsche were having a heated situation. Just to note if you have a problem with a dirty driver don't ruin the race for everyone else. The race was fun up until that point...

Final race slot wasnt getting full brake pressure so the glitch showed up again but dealt with it and had a better race starting from 13th. Had a 3 car battle for 5th on the final lap but couldn't hold on to it with understeer issues and finished in 7th. Still happy with the results and enjoyed the race.

 

[afc5150]

PS: didn’t you start the season as a Porsche driver? Didn’t recall you being in the AMG earlier....

Maybe 2 years ago I gave the Porsche a shot, but have been with Merc for a while now. Previously with Lexus for a couple seasons.

 

[GTWolverine]

I didn't realize we were in the same race! That lobby was a disaster.... I finally managed to qualify well and up into 3rd on lap 1 then get punted in the chicane back down to 6th. Then get run wide twice by the same person and completely off the track, hit wall and spun. Just decided to quit that race, didn't see the point that guy was swerving back and fourth trying to keep me in his rear view.

I figured you got taken out when I saw you with a DNF. Maybe I saved myself trouble by completely screwing up my qualifying and being behind all the carnage. Better luck to both of us next week. Looks like you're off to a good start at Sardegna...

 

[Jwptexas]

I figured you got taken out when I saw you with a DNF. Maybe I saved myself trouble by completely screwing up my qualifying and being behind all the carnage. Better luck to both of us next week. Looks like you're off to a good start at Sardegna...

Just wasn't my night! Hope we have better luck next week it was good to see you! I was surprised to wake up today and still see I'm on the leaderboards. That won't last

Just saw in a practice session the aliens are qualifying with tirewear low 1:24.xxx I can't keep that pace.