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I don't know. In the Gr.4 Daily Race C at Sardengna, WRX was still good. It was fast and although tyre wear was minimal for all cars(the FFs fell off with about 2-3 laps to go), the WRX wasn't too slow on the main straight.

The last GR.4 race, I noticed an Atenza was still going good until the last two laps. With as good as the AWD rear tyres are, I guess the programming of the front tyres have to fall off more, to counter that rear tyre grip.
 
Using the Big Beetle for laughs.
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Edit: One of those WRXs got in my way with a penalty. The pole NSX pushed one off as we both came out the pits. I pulled over immediately and the NSX just smashed it into T. That's messed up. Anyway, I would have been in pole if that WRX just moved over when it got the red since cap. I was purple -160 by the first sector
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Edit2: SO...
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...the OyVeyron is actually the Okayron.
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First off. One the TTs(watched the start, TT that finished 3rd) divebomb me into T1 at the race start. Nice way to help P1 get away. :rolleyes:
1 second for me.

I get super aggressive and use the AWD to get alongside and pass it after the overpass and esses. This car is surprising nimble through there. Real good!

Next knucklehead is the Slophy. If it's a member here or someone's son, I'm not striking what I typed. It divebombed me into the 2nd last corner. Hits a car ahead and that car serves it into the wall.

17 minutes in, the Slophy divebombs that TT from earlier. Right at the final two turns. Comes gunning for me on my worn tyres. It tries to pass me into the final turns and bumps me from the back. We circle and it tries to pass on the outside of the downhill pointy hairpin. As we're climbing up the hill towards the PZ, it's trying to move me over to the left side of the track. I moved twice as it's trying to intimidate me. Bump that!
Into the final two corners, I go in hot and side bump it. It doesn't go off, only slowed down. I soldier on and pit.

Dude causes all that during the race and didn't use the hards!

Anyway, I'm up to B/A. See how 30 laps goes in Skoda Beetle.
 
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Using the Big Beetle for laughs.
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Edit: One of those WRXs got in my way with a penalty. The pole NSX pushed one off as we both came out the pits. I pulled over immediately and the NSX just smashed it into T. That's messed up. Anyway, I would have been in pole if that WRX just moved over when it got the red since cap. I was purple -160 by the first sector
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Good luck with brighthypes. Good and fast and can be great to race, but can rage at times as I think you saw in qually.
 
Using the Big Beetle for laughs.
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Edit: One of those WRXs got in my way with a penalty. The pole NSX pushed one off as we both came out the pits. I pulled over immediately and the NSX just smashed it into T. That's messed up. Anyway, I would have been in pole if that WRX just moved over when it got the red since cap. I was purple -160 by the first sector
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Edit2: SO...
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...the OyVeyron is actually the Okayron.
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First off. One the TTs(watched the start, TT that finished 3rd) divebomb me into T1 at the race start. Nice way to help P1 get away. :rolleyes:
1 second for me.

I get super aggressive and use the AWD to get alongside and pass it after the overpass and esses. This car is surprising nimble through there. Real good!

Next knucklehead is the Slophy. If it's a member here or someone's son, I'm not striking what I typed. It divebombed me into the 2nd last corner. Hits a car ahead and that car serves it into the wall.

17 minutes in, the Slophy divebombs that TT from earlier. Right at the final two turns. Comes gunning for me on my worn tyres. It tries to pass me into the final turns and bumps me from the back. We circle and it tries to pass on the outside of the downhill pointy hairpin. As we're climbing up the hill towards the PZ, it's trying to move me over to the left side of the track. I moved twice as it's trying to intimidate me. Bump that!
Into the final two corners, I go in hot and side bump it. It doesn't go off, only slowed down. I soldier on and pit.

Dude causes all that during the race and didn't use the hards!

Anyway, I'm up to B/A. See how 30 laps goes in Skoda Beetle.
I gotta give you props for taking the Veyron out. I wish I could do that.
... I'll be over here in that horrible TT Cup. :(
 
Alrighty. This race got me back up to B/S. Pole/FL/CRB.
Showing lap times below. One stop. Started on RM. Changed end of Lap 14 to RH. Overfilled just in case. Fastest time on the RH was less than 1 second slower than my FL on RM. Good little car.
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Edit: Trying Nations again.
 
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Alrighty. This race got me back up to B/S. Pole/FL/CRB.
Showing lap times below. One stop. Started on RM. Changed end of Lap 14 to RH. Overfilled just in case. Fastest time on the RH was less than 1 second slower than my FL on RM. Good little car.
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Looks good. Dont know that I can pull anything like that in my jag but will have a go. Looking to just run the tires till they die and then see how far it is.
 
Looks good. Dont know that I can pull anything like that in my jag but will have a go. Looking to just run the tires till they die and then see how far it is.
A couple cars behind put RMs back on. A car in 2nd place had RMs again and I kept it 2-3 seconds behind for the final 10 laps. It pitted on the last lap for RH. Don't know what position that car finished. I'll check the replay later.

Starting P2 in Nations. My controller options button got stuck and I was in pause for 6 minutes of qualy. It kept sending me back to the pits.
Finally got a run and got a penalty. Last chance with 3 minutes. Put down P2. Could have gone faster. Dangit
 
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A couple cars behind put RMs back on. A car in 2nd place had RMs again and I kept it 2-3 seconds behind for the final 10 laps. It pitted on the last lap for RH. Don't know what position that car finished. I'll check the replay later.

Starting P2 in Nations. My controller options button got stick and I was in pause for 6 minutes of qualy. It kept sending my back to the pits.
Finally got a run and got a penalty. Last chance with 3 minutes. Put down P2. Could have gone faster. Dangit
Thanks to Le Mans inflating my DR I am likely to be trailing by a big margin for both races unless I manage to drive over my head like Wednesday's Manu race. Dont think it will matter too much what I do, but ain't giving up. Drive like hell, try not to make mistakes and capitalize on any others. Was working out well even after I was crashed.
 
P1 was a grub. Twice I was faster than that player and got up the inside into the Toyo Tyres left. I guess if you're on the outside, the corner must be yours. I have to use the whole inside of the kerbs. Was left no room to even run on the tarmac.

I get up the inside again. It slows before me. I do the same thing. I'm not going to run a player wide through a turn. Again, leaves me no room and just takes the apex as if I'm not there. I get .5s. Took everything within me, not to punt the car into Gundungaland.

The second TT started off okay. After I served my penalty, this allowed it to get closer. My tyres wore prematurely, due to dealing with P1's antics.
So, this guy wants to try alternate lines to pass. I'm taking the racing lines and I'm going to pit. I take the far right into the last turn and P2 wants to jam it inside. I'm livid and just keep my controller stick to the right. I'm pitting and this dude is coming with me! TT gets a bit more acceleration and breaks the connection between us, just in time. Those two pissed me off.

I was out of sync with them and just ran my race to the end. I'll do the last slot just to have a nice replay to watch. Hopefully...
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Interesting two races tonight. Strategy is very fluid, depending on where you start and traffic condition. If you make the right call and avoid trouble you can shoot up the order in 1-2 laps (or drop down massively). Unfortunately, I can also confirm that the new penalty system is wack. Even minimal bumper-bumper contact will trigger penalty, but the worst thing is you DON'T know which car will get it. It's 🤬 crazy, I have no idea how but PD managed to even make it worse than it was at the start of 2020 where the guy on the outside always gets a penalty. They need to get the penalty programmer replaced, but that won't happen in a million years because according to Kaz everybody at PD is family yada yada :rolleyes: I smell another patch by next week because no way the top aliens are gonna stay quiet about this.

Nations Strat (top split):
- Most FF drivers went with 3 stops
- RM last 7-10 laps
- With Audi TT if you fuel save, I've seen people go 18 laps (so strat becomes 6M/7M/5M/refuel/5H)
- Alternatively if you're not good at fuel saving, you can extend the meds and drive less laps on hards (and refuel on second stop)
- As usual, I made things difficult for myself by using the boat known as Supra :lol: Worse one lap pace, worse fuel consumption and tyre wear not that much better than TT. Did 3H/7M/13M to stay out of battles, but ran out of tyres in the end. Still finished midfield though so not too bad.

Manu Strat (second split):
- 2 stops preferred, no refuelling needed (depending on your car's fuel consumption, you might/might not be able to rev at the start to dump weight)
- Most front runners ran 14M/15M/1H
- Mediums start to fall off after 12 laps on the WRX so I did 5H/13M/12M, went from 15th to 11th (might have been able to take 10th if didn't get stupid bump draft penalty)
- Don't be afraid to use the hards more than 1 lap. While it's cold it might feel like ice but after 1 lap it drives pretty good compared to worn mediums. It's very difficult to overtake here so using a different strat to everyone else could pay dividends. Undercut and stay out of traffic.

I don't know. In the Gr.4 Daily Race C at Sardengna, WRX was still good. It was fast and although tyre wear was minimal for all cars(the FFs fell off with about 2-3 laps to go), the WRX wasn't too slow on the main straight.

The last GR.4 race, I noticed an Atenza was still going good until the last two laps. With as good as the AWD rear tyres are, I guess the programming of the front tyres have to fall off more, to counter that rear tyre grip.

Not sure what was the slipstream in daily races. If it's weak slipstream it can make a big difference on the straight.

Also, I think I've mentioned this before, but from leaderboards you're on average roughly the same pace as me over one lap. I'm sitting at 50k DR but on KP I see you don't go over 40k (currently 20k). If you race against people whose pace is 2 seconds a lap slower, it doesn't matter what car you use. Any car even Alfa could be competitive :lol:
 
Ran a 16/M 14/H strat in manu. Started p12, ended p8. Fairly close and bumpy at the start, but made it through and pretty much ran by myself after lap 5. Highest finish all season for me in the big cat and a season high points by a huge margin. Lobby was only slightly above normal, mostly regulars I already know and race. Now on to Nations in the Lightning McQueen TT
 
I did both Superstars races. A few notes:

- Slipstream qualifying is more crucial than ever. You just have to be closer to the car in front.
- Penalty system is garbage. You will get a penalty for the softest tap on the rear of the car in front.

So, whatever the update intended to fix, actually had the opposite effect.

As for the races:

Nations
Got a great tow in qualifying and started P4. Dropped back and eventually spun off from P6 looking in the mirror. Eventually finished P8 which was not bad after spinning. Not really good enough though.

Manufacturers
Started P11 after an ordinary qualifying lap, toiled around in the midfield and finished around there.

Not a great night out but onwards to the next round.
 
Interesting two races tonight. Strategy is very fluid, depending on where you start and traffic condition. If you make the right call and avoid trouble you can shoot up the order in 1-2 laps (or drop down massively). Unfortunately, I can also confirm that the new penalty system is wack. Even minimal bumper-bumper contact will trigger penalty, but the worst thing is you DON'T know which car will get it. It's 🤬 crazy, I have no idea how but PD managed to even make it worse than it was at the start of 2020 where the guy on the outside always gets a penalty. They need to get the penalty programmer replaced, but that won't happen in a million years because according to Kaz everybody at PD is family yada yada :rolleyes: I smell another patch by next week because no way the top aliens are gonna stay quiet about this.

Nations Strat (top split):
- Most FF drivers went with 3 stops
- RM last 7-10 laps
- With Audi TT if you fuel save, I've seen people go 18 laps (so strat becomes 6M/7M/5M/refuel/5H)
- Alternatively if you're not good at fuel saving, you can extend the meds and drive less laps on hards (and refuel on second stop)
- As usual, I made things difficult for myself by using the boat known as Supra :lol: Worse one lap pace, worse fuel consumption and tyre wear not that much better than TT. Did 3H/7M/13M to stay out of battles, but ran out of tyres in the end. Still finished midfield though so not too bad.

Manu Strat (second split):
- 2 stops preferred, no refuelling needed (depending on your car's fuel consumption, you might/might not be able to rev at the start to dump weight)
- Most front runners ran 14M/15M/1H
- Mediums start to fall off after 12 laps on the WRX so I did 5H/13M/12M, went from 15th to 11th (might have been able to take 10th if didn't get stupid bump draft penalty)
- Don't be afraid to use the hards more than 1 lap. While it's cold it might feel like ice but after 1 lap it drives pretty good compared to worn mediums. It's very difficult to overtake here so using a different strat to everyone else could pay dividends. Undercut and stay out of traffic.



Not sure what was the slipstream in daily races. If it's weak slipstream it can make a big difference on the straight.

Also, I think I've mentioned this before, but from leaderboards you're on average roughly the same pace as me over one lap. I'm sitting at 50k DR but on KP I see you don't go over 40k (currently 20k). If you race against people whose pace is 2 seconds a lap slower, it doesn't matter what car you use. Any car even Alfa could be competitive :lol:
Yeah, haven't checked Kudos. I go to my GT profile and check the line under whatever Driver Rating I am. If it's half full(like now at "B"), I know I'm getting close to going up a rating.

Still, no matter who I'm racing, I prefer to race fair. If I'm in an inferior car, I'm not going to be silly if I would be faster in a META.

I'm in the last slot with the Scirocco again. Here we go.

Edit: Qualy was a bit ordinary. People stoping AT T1 apex and the outside of the corner. Who knows what's going to happen?
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Yikes. That was an annoying and painful waste of an hour. Unlike Manu, my Nations slot was way over my level. Door 14. Qualified p18, and that was at a tenth faster than I had run in any practice laps, all 20 or so of them. Then I feel slow starting out, but gain on the back half of the lap, come around the final turn.

And plow straight into the wall to a dead stop.
Damage.
1.5 seconds.
And having to start back slow.

So after that I was p20. And had to change my goals. They were to try and get back to my starting spot. And looking at the lap times, don't get lapped.:lol::scared:

I achieved the dont get lapped, but only managed to claw back to p19. It was utterly awful. I was just outclassed, and made my own mistakes to compound an already hard situation.:banghead:

Oh well, Manu went well. Now beers and reviewing great replays from race C.
Good luck and clean races to all you NA and EMEA drivers:cheers:

Stay low and avoid the Penalty System.
 
I've just made 1st slot Nations, with door number 2 unfortunately. Q2 with 1.24.5, then a nice, clean race until I did bad maths on the second pit stop and tanked too much fuel, lost a lot of time while doing that and all what I could do was keeping P3. I've kept it to the line and took home 132 pts :cheers:
 
Is the Scirocco a legit option for Nations? If so,I may have to give it a go as it is by far the easiest FF to drive for me.

In my race there was at least 5 different cars, one Scirocco. I practiced before the race TT, RCZ and Scirocco and my times were roughly the same, so if it's easier for You with Scirocco, go for it, You shouldn't struggle to keep with Audis.
 
NATION'S

Qualifying was predictably terrible with me starting in P19. Slipstream-less laps are now even worse.


This is mind I started in the hard tyre and pitted at the end of lap 2 hoping to make the 3 stop work. I rejoined in last but managed to catch up pretty quickly meaning I could jump people in the pits. By the time I pitted next on lap 9 was in 15th. I managed to regain 16th on lap 11 with a 3 in 1 pass at the big banked corner and was in 13th at the end of the lap due to pitters.


I pitted again for a final time on lap 16 from 10th to rejoin in 12th. By the end of lap 17 was in 11th again where I slowly caught the car ahead and nearly caught them at the end but ran out of laps.


Overall a decent finish considering I'm not very strong in FF cars and the qualifying result. Not going again after that but am looking forwards to Autopolis.



MANUFACTURERS

Yet again another terrible slipstream-less qualifying put me starting in P18. Spotting a pattern with qualifying yet?


Again I tried to let strategy help me here by pitting on lap 1 for the medium tyres and hoping to jump cars that way. I caught the group ahead on lap 6 and knew I could jump a load of cars in the pits. I had a brief fight with a Merc before letting the faster car go and work in my favour. I pitted lap 15 from 16th and was up to 14th the next lap as others pitted.


Lap 19 and a Merc fighting with a BMW let me past for 12th and then 11th at the end of the lap. This turned out to be a smart move as this BMW drives did everything they could (mainly trying to drive people into walls when they tried to pass them.) Lap 25 and I managed to pass them at T1 which obviously angered them as they then punted the Merc of that let me past and then me the following lap as they served there penalty. A brief fight with a Jaguar for a couple of laps helped than catch back up with the help of a BS 1 second penalty for seemingly no reason. With some brute force managed to get past and stay ahead.


P12 in the end but would have been 8th without the BMW. May go again here as I know I can do better. Didn't lose any SR though and they dropped to B. What's more others were also complaining about them afterwards.

 
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Hi guys!

First of all good luck to all those over here racing today. I only had 1 go at each race, Nations went pretty well but Manu...

I would need some advice regarding tyre saving, because after 7 laps my tyres were half red in the NSX, so I binned it twice in the 8th lap and ended up last.

How come the wearing was so bad for me whereas the Corvette in Kie's stream or the AMG in Dillster's were hardly red after 10 laps ? :( I know some cars are more "tyre-friendly" but there's definitely something I must do wrong...

Edit: just to say that I use BB-5 already, doesn't seem to help much haha
 
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Returned to Manufacturers this afternoon for the 15:20 slot. Thought against it at first as I wanted to focus solely on @Drex124's Group C Challenge later tonight, but @Mistah_MCA's guide and an encouraging test lobby with @Adam Barber convinced me to try and boost my points haul before season's end.

15:20 Manufacturers
Despite being on a roval course, I met a rather diverse field in my allocated lobby. Four 911s, two 4Cs (one being that of 'Wifi password') a second GT LM and one each of the following:
  • 458
  • AMG GT3
  • Atenza
  • DBR9
  • F-type
  • Genesis
  • GT-R
  • R8
  • R.S.01
  • RX-Vision
  • Supra
  • Viper
First qualifying lap wasn't too shabby, a 1:07.279 despite running wide and not being close enough to my Ford teammate in front. Almost improved my time when I stayed out, and in doing so helped the Viper jump from 5th to provisional 2nd. Decided at that point to make the Viper my slipstream buddy and clocked 170mph down the straight as we started out next laps. Unfortunately, a lot of traffic filtered out in front of us at the first corner, which put me four-tenths down and prompted me to return to the pits. Regardless of slipstream, I knew I could improve if I took a better line through Turns 3-4; the result was a 1:06.929 and provisional 5th on the grid. Well I say provisional, but to my surprise no-one else was able to improve, so it stuck.

Changed brake balance from +1 to -1 to preserve tyres, and chose initially to see through a two-stopper (14M-15M-1H) as I did in the test lobby. With plenty of short-shifting, I knew the Ford could last the whole distance without refuelling, so decided to take things steadily while following the Viper as closely as possible. The Dutch Porsche behind was already struggling to keep up and eventually dropped back due to a penalty, so for the first six laps there was virtually no pressure as the Viper got in front of the Italian Porsche. On Lap 8, the Renault picks up a questionable 1-second penalty for lightly tapping the leading Audi, allowing me to slipstream past down the straight.

The Renault, as it became clear, was much faster, and saw an opportunity to sneak back on the inside when I overcooked my entry into Turn 6. However, I kept my position with a smooth exit, and was in the process of braking for Turns 7-8 when I receive a tap from behind. The Renault was on my outside, and though we had a car's length between us he seemed to have been caught out when I moved across to take the racing line. Apologised to him after the race as the contact gave him another 1-second penalty, but he later explained that it was entirely a mistake on his part. Now the Italian Porsche becomes a victim of the bump-draft penalty system (1 second), and I spend the last few laps of my first stint following his tail. Almost got the slingshot into Turn 1, but couldn't quite get it to stick either time.

Enter the 458. He had gradually closed in on the lead pack when the Renault faltered, and got the slipstream on me as I scraped the barrier on Lap 19. It wasn't as much of an issue since I was up to 4th and there was a decent gap between myself and the Audi now sitting in 5th. The problem was that the Audi had already cycled through the Hard compound and was gaining considerably. Still, the Ford felt nice and I set a new personal best of 1:07.210 at the two-third mark. Got a slipstream on the Ferrari on Lap 21, and at some point he must have realised I was faster, as he proceeds to indicate and back out earlier into Turn 6. Through this unexpected and kind gesture, we're in 3rd, our final position dependent on where the Audi slots back into the field.

That part of the story became clear as we entered the final few laps. Behind, the Ferrari pits for Hards on Lap 27, during which time I ponder whether it would be worth doing the same a lap earlier to jump the Viper and Italian Porsche. The Viper was struggling much more with tyre wear at this late stage, so there was also a chance to take the provisional final podium slot away from him if the Audi had his way. In the end, I followed the Viper into pit road on Lap 28, and watched as he made a hash of Turns 2-4. The Hyundai (still on Mediums) gets close, and there are yellow flags waving on the entry into Turn 6...

The Audi has spun! Touched the grass on the outside under braking and round he went. Having passed me on the inside at Turn 7, the Hyundai pits for mandatory Hards. The pressure is off, and I slot into 3rd with the Italian Porsche taking the lead to the flag. Too far behind the Viper to worry him anymore, but the same could be said for the Supra behind me who had fought his way up from 10th.

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Finally, a podium finish in 2020 Manufacturers! Don't know whether I'll be doing any more rounds in Stage 3 (probably for fun more than anything else), but I knew from setting consistent 1:07s in my earlier test lobby that the GT had the potential to be strong around Blue Moon Bay. Off to rest now before the Group C Challenge gets underway...

Hi guys!

First of all good luck to all those over here racing today. I only had 1 go at each race, Nations went pretty well but Manu...

I would need some advice regarding tyre saving, because after 7 laps my tyres were half red in the NSX, so I binned it twice in the 8th lap and ended up last.

How come the wearing was so bad for me whereas the Corvette in Kie's stream or the AMG in Dillster's were hardly red after 10 laps ? :( I know some cars are more "tyre-friendly" but there's definitely something I must do wrong...
Forward (minus) brake balance and gentle handling are the way forward. I had a similar issue with the GT in test lobbies until I figured out that BB -1 helped stabilise the car under braking and reduce the wear on my right-rear.
 
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I was seeded 20th for the 4:40BST round, and qualified P17 thanks to a lack of practice, I couldn't get a handle on trail-braking the Audi for the left sweeper before the penalty line. I started on Hards and dove straight into the pits for Mediums at the end of L1. The first Medium stint (L2-8) was uneventful bar a 0.5s penalty for using too much of the inside kerb in one of the Esses, and I remained in P17 at the end of the stint. The second stint went awry at the end as I missed my braking point for the final hairpin on L14 and barely kept it from careening off into the barriers, so I dove straight into the pits afterwards to switch to what I hoped was one last set of hards and an additional 28 litres of fuel thanks to my short-shifting.

Things kicked off on L19 with a pile-up in the Esses, lifting me from 16th to 13th in a matter of seconds, which became 11th when another two drivers served 4 second penalties for getting caught up in that cluster. I caught one last guy for 10th as they had to dive into the pits at the end of L22 to switch to Hards, but it didn't last long as a Portuguese in a colour-shifting red/yellow/green livery caught me on the exit of T1, demoting me back to 11th, where I remained for the rest of the race. Oh yeah, I also ran out of fuel just as I approached the line as I had ditched the fuel-saving for the previous 2 laps in my vain attempt to hold onto 10th. In the end, I scored 114pts, kept my SR and lost just 25DR. It's safe to say this is another one-and-done race.
 
Hi guys!

First of all good luck to all those over here racing today. I only had 1 go at each race, Nations went pretty well but Manu...

I would need some advice regarding tyre saving, because after 7 laps my tyres were half red in the NSX, so I binned it twice in the 8th lap and ended up last.

How come the wearing was so bad for me whereas the Corvette in Kie's stream or the AMG in Dillster's were hardly red after 10 laps ? :( I know some cars are more "tyre-friendly" but there's definitely something I must do wrong...

Edit: just to say that I use BB-5 already, doesn't seem to help much haha
We need a little more information.. are you using a wheel or controller? Biggest thing that causes excessive tire wear in GTSport is controller drivers simply turning the wheel too much since there's no feedback except the tire squeal.

If you're on a wheel it's got to be something to do with your driving style.
 
Thank you for your answer and Vulcan's too.

I'm on a wheel so I guess I should blame my driving style :D

I'm hovering around 40k DR so let's say I'm not a "noob" but I feel like there are lots of things about the technical aspect of racing that I just don't know about. Anyway, I realise that without a video or something more precise it's difficult for you to say what the problem is but I was rather looking for a general "good practice" list ;)

Like, for example, do you always brake as hard as you can first before starting to trail brake ? How can you put your foot down on corner exit without spinning the wheels too much ? How can you minimise the sliding on fast corners ? Etc, etc. So many things to improve ! :p
 
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