FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Suntek]

I'd say the same thing, however this *only* happens during the FIA races. And I've had full green 5 bar network status indicated. Weird.
And one time it was a full PSN log out.. ..I honestly don't get it.

If you get logout then it's your network. PSN was however under maintenance during last FIA.

I usually get crash with error like most here, and usually on FIA as well..

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Gr. 3 & 4 BOP changes

Gr.3 Class
・Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 [Power Ratio : 101% > 100%]
・Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car [Power Ratio : 92%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 114%]
・Lamborghini Huracán GT3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 108% > 107%]
・GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport [Power Ratio : 110% > 109%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 109%]

Gr.4 Class
・Audi TT Cup '16 [Power Ratio : 102% > 103%]
・GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 111%]
・McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 110%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 108% > 109%]
・Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 113%]

Apparently fuel economy has been adjusted in general as well. Good to see Peugeot getting buffed, but still no power boost for the WRX Gr. 4. Oh well.

 

[Pfei]

Apparently fuel economy has been adjusted in general as well. Good to see Peugeot getting buffed, but still no power boost for the WRX Gr. 4. Oh well.

The revised tire model could be less punishing to our AWD tire-eater. Not sure when I can do some testing, though.

 

[Tidgney]

Less cars for me to worry about overtaking at Le Mans with everyone on a 2 stop . I like the choice between fuel-save 1 stop and flat-out 2, without my silly little mistakes and Fuvaros disconnecting there'd have been a 6 way battle for the win on the last lap! I feel the Megane race was always going to be a bit of a turd whether we were all pushing or not tbh. Car with infinite downforce and grip along with very short braking zones not much of a recipe for a great top split race. A Gr4 one make in something like the Cayman/4C/458 would've been better as at least those cars can get the tail out and induce a few more mistakes, and more overtaking as a result.

O ye races with mixture of strategies are awesome for us, especially if they are close. But I can't imagine how frustrating it was for the casters watching a train of cars not wanting to overtake and that would mean to watch it's really boring . I think even the Megane race without fuel and tyres would have been more action packed. I mean personally I'd have attacked a lot harder when lightning and zoky made a mistake on lap 1. Guess it's here to stay so I've no idea how they are going to balance different accelerated tyre/fuel in different combos along with drive trains and everything else. Lets hope they have some crazy ways to do it though! I'm actually doing a video on fuel and tyres just to visually demonstrate how difficult it is to balance (Was going to be today's, but with the patch and the massive change I'm leaving it a little while in case something significant has changed) and actually how accelerated variants of it is so impactful vs x1. If the new tyre model is identical to the one in Germany that we used then MR cars are going to have an absolute nightmare vs FR in group 3..... I think ?

 

[vvise]

For those that signed with Ford I wonder of we'll get the option to use the new gt lm.

 

[mthomas_95]

If the new tyre model is identical to the one in Germany that we used then MR cars are going to have an absolute nightmare vs FR in group 3..... I think ?

Did a race stint run earlier in the 458 and I don't know if it was just being more careful on throttle than normal but rear tyre wear seemed better than before, and certainly better than N24

If anything I think cars with a tendency to understeer may struggle more, took the SLS out for the Daily and it was almost a barge compared to the Ford.

 

[Tidgney]

Did a race stint run earlier in the 458 and I don't know if it was just being more careful on throttle than normal but rear tyre wear seemed better than before, and certainly better than N24

If anything I think cars with a tendency to understeer may struggle more, took the SLS out for the Daily and it was almost a barge compared to the Ford.

O god, if understeers an issue with tyre wear, I need a bigger than 1% buff on the PUG Group 4 haha!

 

[bloodyboyblue]

For those that signed with Ford I wonder of we'll get the option to use the new gt lm.

Doubt it, which is probably good since history has shown that new additions to the classes are generally overpowered initially like the Supra and Megane Trophy

 

[vvise]

Doubt it, which is probably good since history has shown that new additions to the classes are generally overpowered initially like the Supra and Megane Trophy

that's exactly why i want it though...

 

[Whitey093]

I would welcome that addition to @vvise but the mustang is already pretty stout as it is especially on the power tracks.

 

[xxxman1]

My partners of FIA MFG races

 

[TheGeologist]

My partners of FIA MFG races
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Is that a decal on the back window?

 

[PirovacBoy]

Just a question how many points can be won if winning an Dr.A FIA Manufacturers Race.
I made a new Account on Saturday and won a B Race with my 458 which only gave me 872 points
It was my first ever driven FIA Race and I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[xxxman1]

Is that a decal on the back window?

Yes on the Gr3 Evo

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Just a question how many points can be won if winning an Dr.A FIA Manufacturers Race.
I made a new Account on Saturday and won a B Race with my 458 which only gave me 872 points
It was my first ever driven FIA Race and I was pleasantly surprised.

If it’s all A’s, usually around 1000-1600 or so to win. Depending on the number of A+’s it can be pushed over 2000 to win, or decreased if B’s are used to fill the field.

 

[PirovacBoy]

If it’s all A’s, usually around 1000-1600 or so to win. Depending on the number of A+’s it can be pushed over 2000 to win, or decreased if B’s are used to fill the field.

Thx, so I think i‘ll spend a few more daily races atm sitting on 29.915 DR until I reach mid DrA and then next Manu Season i‘ll Full attack for Ferrari and try to get a top10 Manufacturers Position at the End of the Season.
From what i’ve Seen it shouldn’t be too tough as I saw not many use it or let’s say the cliff behind @mthomas_95 @maatu and @BOLIK fell off pretty much and I believe I can get a Top 10 Position

 

[Whitey093]

It doesn’t seem too hard to get a top 10 for your manufacturer honestly. Looking at the points for each manufacturer, there is a dramatic fall off after the top few drivers and a lot of people are in the top 10 with under 2000 points which you can get from one race.

With so many manufacturers and half the races on Saturday night when most relevant humans have a lot going on and can’t race, the points are spread thin and it isn’t hard to have a couple good races and be up at the top of the leader boards. Hell, I have only 20 sport wins ever and I made too 60 regionally from just 5 races meaning only one dropped and my best finish was third.

Maybe the FIA races will grow in popularity and it will get harder as a lot of the super fast guys I know haven’t done one race yet. If that happens it will be a good thing because the stronger the competition the better everyone will get. If you aren’t being pushed why bother to put the time in.

 

[PirovacBoy]

It doesn’t seem too hard to get a top 10 for your manufacturer honestly. Looking at the points for each manufacturer, there is a dramatic fall off after the top few drivers and a lot of people are in the top 10 with under 2000 points which you can get from one race.

With so many manufacturers and half the races on Saturday night when most relevant humans have a lot going on and can’t race, the points are spread thin and it isn’t hard to have a couple good races and be up at the top of the leader boards. Hell, I have only 20 sport wins ever and I made too 60 regionally from just 5 races meaning only one dropped and my best finish was third.

Maybe the FIA races will grow in popularity and it will get harder as a lot of the super fast guys I know haven’t done one race yet. If that happens it will be a good thing because the stronger the competition the better everyone will get. If you aren’t being pushed why bother to put the time in.

So actually from what you wrote, it’s probably even possible to reach top10 despite being in B Rank, hmmm, no, that’s no option. At the moment it looks like it’s not so easy anymore to maintain DrA+ as i‘ve Noticed not many DrA+’s doing dailies anymore so it’s way too much to loose and almost nothing to gain.
I‘ll do a few more dailies, maintain DrA level, and that should make up for some good and relaxed FIA races.

 

[Whitey093]

@PirovacBoy

Look at the individual manufacturer points tables on the gran-turismo website. It may be tougher in your region as the EMEA region seems to be the best right now but in the Americas at least it is pretty easy to achieve top 10 as a high B low A driver points wise. Like I said though, it may get tougher if more people join and more people are serious and do more than a couple races. I saw a few people in the top 10 from just 2 or 3 races though and plenty of B drivers who just finished high in the lower rooms and stacked up mediocre finishes. Even I got 5400 points from just finishing top 5 in lower ranked rooms and beat a lot of much better drivers who were stuck in top rooms and finishing at the back.

I do wish last place in a top tier room was worth more than 1st in a lower room in the future as just getting to the top room is an accomplishment and for it to be a detriment to your season is not fair really. I don’t really know how to do it points wise but you have to reward the top tier drivers more and the middle drivers less if you want the cream to rise to the top. As it stands I would say it is best to be at around 30000 DR points and win the lower rooms to stack up points if top 10 is your only goal. That fact doesn’t sit well with me really.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

@PirovacBoy

Look at the individual manufacturer points tables on the gran-turismo website. It may be tougher in your region as the EMEA region seems to be the best right now but in the Americas at least it is pretty easy to achieve top 10 as a high B low A driver points wise. Like I said though, it may get tougher if more people join and more people are serious and do more than a couple races. I saw a few people in the top 10 from just 2 or 3 races though and plenty of B drivers who just finished high in the lower rooms and stacked up mediocre finishes. Even I got 5400 points from just finishing top 5 in lower ranked rooms and beat a lot of much better drivers who were stuck in top rooms and finishing at the back.

I do wish last place in a top tier room was worth more than 1st in a lower room in the future as just getting to the top room is an accomplishment and for it to be a detriment to your season is not fair really. I don’t really know how to do it points wise but you have to reward the top tier drivers more and the middle drivers less if you want the cream to rise to the top. As it stands I would say it is best to be at around 30000 DR points and win the lower rooms to stack up points if top 10 is your only goal. That fact doesn’t sit well with me really.

And then there’s Peugeot in the Americas, where 10th place had 427 points. Only 3 players had 4 digits. That’s probably the most extreme example.

 

[Krypton78]

Just a question how many points can be won if winning an Dr.A FIA Manufacturers Race.
I made a new Account on Saturday and won a B Race with my 458 which only gave me 872 points
It was my first ever driven FIA Race and I was pleasantly surprised.

Wendsday I won Manufacturers in Nürburgring. I had 37.000 DR i think. Got 1505 pts.

 

[PirovacBoy]

I would say it is best to be at around 30000 DR points and win the lower rooms to stack up points if top 10 is your only goal.

It is, absolutely. I have reached 2 times A+ rank already, and been able to maintain it.
But, I have reached my limit and like I said it doesn’t make sense to drive against lower tier opponents Dr Wise cause it’s if I don’t finish 1st i‘ll Loose tons of dr in 1 race and due to the lack of enough A+ Drivers it can take 10 or more races to get back like where it was before.
So yes I have nothing to prove anymore despite becoming a Top10 Driver for Ferrari, as it’s the only Manufacturer I actually drive, or drove during the dailies.

I stopped playing dailies in January and recently opened a new Account to promote STR Stronger Together Racing , Anxiety and Depression Fighters.
It’s a side kick from @QRacer_31, Team Captain of Team TNTR , and I fully stand behind this Project. It’s an very honorable Idea and a very Important one too. But before I go way too far off topic, let’s just leave it and move on

 

[Krypton78]

I have reached 2 times A+ rank already, and been able to maintain it.

Me too. But with CSA and TCS on. Now I was going to try it to reach without assists, but turning daylies into weeklies pushed me off.

My motivation is now participating at as many Fia events as possible, but my expectations are low because its way more difficult there. But more fun also

 

[PirovacBoy]

Me too. But with CSA and TCS on.

Boooooo , no just kidding To be honest I never used them but obviously I tried them. But they both absolutely didn’t help me so I forgot that they are actually in the Game anymore

 

[K32]

Gr. 3 & 4 BOP changes

Gr.3 Class
・Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 [Power Ratio : 101% > 100%]
・Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car [Power Ratio : 92%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 114%]
・Lamborghini Huracán GT3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 108% > 107%]
・GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport [Power Ratio : 110% > 109%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 109%]

Gr.4 Class
・Audi TT Cup '16 [Power Ratio : 102% > 103%]
・GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 111%]
・McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 110%]
・Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 108% > 109%]
・Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 113%]

Apparently fuel economy has been adjusted in general as well. Good to see Peugeot getting buffed, but still no power boost for the WRX Gr. 4. Oh well.

Mercedes looks like it is being left to die apparently. SLS Gr.4 desperately needs a weight and fuel buff. SLS Gr.3 is too heavy, AMG GT Gr.3 needs 1% power and fuel buff (barely keeps up with anything on the Mulsanne at Le Mans while snorting fuel). I was hoping that PD was actually going to change their BoP for this update.

Btw, is the Megane still OP?

 

[Hossnight1]

Apparently fuel economy has been adjusted in general as well. Good to see Peugeot getting buffed, but still no power boost for the WRX Gr. 4. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
It's a shame my poor WRX and her Sambabus straight line speed

 

[garix]

The curbs at Gardens are way less of a crapshoot than the high speed chicane at Seaside. At least there’s ways to avoid them consistently. Gardens is a fun track other than the last corner, that’s the only random part of the track I find.

I hate the sausage kerbs, 1mm to the left penalty 1mm to the right car flys, completely ruins the flow of a otherwise pretty good track!

Sausage kerbs at gardens I find the entire lap time is based on that chicane, nail the chicane = mega lap, don't nail it and you lose 3/4 tenths, and as Venster said;

Literally it's by mms and in a race right behind someone you're technically guessing where they are which is nuts to be honest, flung me up a few times in the last one. Remove it and I think that track would be mega, last corner is a bit hit and miss, kinda like it to be honest promotes some interesting lines for sure.

No problems here with the sausage kerbs being leveled off though (Y) but I do like the intent with them - more risk in using the kerb, and if you are going to you have to have it set up correctly - but I'll concede if everyone just uses the kerb anyway then the sausage isn't really adding anything.

Well, just did some practise laps at gardens to check the new tyre model and it looks like the sausage kerbs are no isue any more. Every time you hit them you get a penalty 👍. Maybe someone can confirm that it is not just in my game after the update .
Laptimes were about 1s off with the new tyre model after about 10 laps (first 4 didn´t count cause I was using the sausage kerbs like yesterday ).
About 0.3 you lose till the hairpin cause of driving now around the sausage kerbs, rest comes from the added understeer feature in the new tyre model. Losing the rear is not an big isue in Gr.4, so not much to say if its better now. Need to test Gr.3 cars.
Car was Lexus Gr.4. Time yesterday 1.37.0xx, today 1.38.0xx (1.37 high is possible).

 

[Matty28]

Btw, is the Megane still OP?

 

[K32]

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They haven't fixed a damn thing with 2%. If every 1% represent about 10kg for the Megane, then a 10-15% weight increase should've been added.

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Yeah they have completely altered the track limits at Dragon Trail Gardens. You can no longer drive over the top of the sausage kerbs, you have to go around them. Strangely they have also altered the hairpin (can't cut too far over the kerb on the inside), and the same for the left hander before you go over the rise (You get a penalty for dipping your left wheel off the track).

Note that you can burn about 1.1 secs of penalty into the hairpin now by braking at the normal spot, so maybe splitting the 2nd sausage kerb might be worth it.

I was about 0.7 down on my best times in my Scirocco, but don't know how much that is down to the new tyre model or just down to the new track limits.