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So I was right, the SF race was an absolutely horrible experience, the worst GTS experience I've ever had. So bad in fact, I packed up my wheel and put it away.

My first attempt I only got slightly punted at T1 to end up in a group at the back of the field. But a few laps in someone decides to pit maneuver me in the final section of turns. Of course, once I get that SF car on grass it's race over, took me 10 seconds just to get back on track. That put me to last place, I fought back 3 or 4 positions.

Attempt 2, T1, I get sent to the Shadow Realm, punted to Narnia, whatever you want to say. Engine damage and all, I was in last place by a lot. And that was after a P6 qualifying I was super happy about, go figure. I checked the replay on that one, I was ready to invade the DMs of whoever punted me as my first thought was that it was a full speed dive bomb. Turns out that one was just typical DR B poor driving and nothing egregious. I was the primary sufferer of a chain reaction of mistakes by others. I'll abbreviate the PSN names, the main culprit(K) braked crazy early for no reason, he had a lane to the inside but braked hard instead, so TB obviously rear ends him super hard, that initiate Ks "nitro" and he goes sliding into the grass on the inside. K just rides his punt nitro and makes his way on track using KK to stop him. KK and I were wheel to wheel so he gets pinballed between me and K and unfortunately nobody was on my left to stop me from flying 50M into the dirt. Again i fought back 3 or 4 position the rest of the race.

Attempt 3 I should not even have bothered. I was so mad, so dejected there was no way I was going to do well in that race. I practiced a bit before and didn't finish one lap without binning it, so I should have known how it was going to go. I binned it on both my hot laps so I just quit qualifying and started from the back. My wheel my have been a little messed from the amount of times I punched it during the last race because I honestly don't know how I kept going off. I was actually doing well for a few laps, went from last into the top 10 until I ended up making my own mistake this time and out of frustration I spun out 3 times being to hard on the power trying to get off the grass. I thought better of rage quitting when the I got the message that "it will affect my ratings", so I just parked in the pits and retired. I didn't even know that was an option but I tried it and it works. Just pit, don't select tires and you can stay there all race.

The worst part is I practiced all week. It embarrassing how much I practice and how hard I try to git gud only have **** results in a bloody B lobby. I get a good experience probably every 1 of 7 races, so that one good experience is not worth all the crap I put up with in the other 6. Seeing that next race is Gr3 and Brands Hatch and after that is a Gr.1 I'm retiring from Nations, we'll see what happens when Manu starts and the Supra championship might be okay. I can't even manage 500+ points in nations right now when I should be getting around 1000 to meet my personal goals.
 
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Manufacturers: The NSX is not the ideal car for Monza. So in quali I had to get strategic, I burned fuel until a quick Lexus passed me on my out lap and proceeded to slip stream him the whole lap for P5. In the race, got a nice clean T1, pitted lap 5 to go RS-RS, undercut the guy ahead, avoided all penalties to finish a surprising P3 in a mid-A lobby.

I'm now solidly #1 for Honda in NA (one of the weaker manufacturers tho).

Nations: 4th on the grid, got a good start and was 2nd into T1, immediately punted into the gravel now sitting last. Recovered to finish 6th or so. Crazy but fun race combo
 
Lacked qualifying pace with the SF. Race pace was ok, but my early mistake cost me a better position.




Extremely disappointed for not getting big points in Monza. The car was great here, but unfortunately, on the big points room, I had no time to warm up and it showed. With my pace I had all chances to get a big result, which was extremely frustrating. You can see my pace on the race that counted (3rd slot), but points were very low for the win.

 
Only had a chance for one slot last night which was the 2nd Manufacturers.
Quali was nothing special, ended up midpack after setting 2 times within 0.006s of each other. Then the race was just about picking my battles and avoiding penalties. In the end I managed to get a decent result given my pace but probably could've been a couple of positions higher with better decision making.

 
:lol::cheers:
Terrible race for me. I seem to have a problem with tire wear on the SF.

I should have ran Grosjean’s livery, I was having his kind of race.
Pretty sure the whole field lapped me. :lol:
Grosjean just seems not.... good. Maybe thats why we both went Magnussen.

I'm now solidly #1 for Honda in NA (one of the weaker manufacturers tho).
Glad its not just me that feels that way. Sucks because I have a pretty quick Honda.
 
I’m new to the FIA format and I have so far done three races in the Manufacturers cup.
I have to say I really enjoy it and it is such a challenge with the qualifying time ..

That said, I did two races last night and my last was a disaster and that was what was counted for my points.
I thought that it was the BEST race of the evening that counted .. is that not so ???
 
I’m new to the FIA format and I have so far done three races in the Manufacturers cup.
I have to say I really enjoy it and it is such a challenge with the qualifying time ..

That said, I did two races last night and my last was a disaster and that was what was counted for my points.
I thought that it was the BEST race of the evening that counted .. is that not so ???

Negative sir, your last race is what counts, so if you get decent points on your first race you are gambling by going again. I gambled last night and lost in Nations and got an improvement in Manufacturer, albeit not what I wanted, but it was expected since Monza and I never get along. :grumpy:
 
Only had a chance for one slot last night which was the 2nd Manufacturers.
Quali was nothing special, ended up midpack after setting 2 times within 0.006s of each other. Then the race was just about picking my battles and avoiding penalties. In the end I managed to get a decent result given my pace but probably could've been a couple of positions higher with better decision making.



I really enjoyed your race video. I was so excited that you got the fourth position at last. I did not like how deug1984 was going back and forth to avoid you drifting.
You did a very good and patient race and that really paid off.
Well done !
 
Glad its not just me that feels that way. Sucks because I have a pretty quick Honda.

I did a quick look and Honda doesn't have any top players driving for them in any region. Oh well. I guess I'm just a medium size fish in a tiny pond
 
My first attempt at the Manufacturer race last night saw me get kicked from the lobby during qualifying meaning a big fat 0 and the loss of 2000 DR, never a nice feeling.

My second attempt went much better though, qualifying 7th and going for the no stop strategy with a set of Mediums on the front and soft's on the back. It was a tricky race with my Toyota 86 really struggling for straight line speed, making slipstream and race craft even more important. I managed to have a pretty clean race but picked up one corner cut penalty after a small mistake through Ascari which potentially cost me a good chance of finishing 2nd. Tyres were dead on the final lap but with the lack of top speed I felt it was the way to go as overtaking on the soft's may have been tough.

In the end, some decent points on the board and an enjoyable race.

 
Had some real BS happen in my FIA race yesterday...



So this starts on lap 8 of 11 from the view of the offender. I've been in 2nd pretty much the whole race (I'm driving the green Mustang) but I caught a 0.5 second penalty due to the track limits. The guy in 3rd is almost able to pass me on the straight due to this, and to try and avoid any accidents in the turn I brake a little harder than normal to slip in behind this guy and attempt to pass him on the next straight, which is where I change the camera view to myself for the rest of the clip. As I was getting ready to pass this guy on the outside he makes the move to block me which I then try to move to the inside, but I think there was the slightest bump between us which took the momentum away from me so I tuck back in behind him. As we approach the braking zone for the next corner I move to take the inside line to avoid any punting scenarios. The first half of the chicane goes well, the second half I jabbed the brakes to try and cut under him and have the inside line for the next turn which goes well also. This is where he starts to push me wide, and I try to give him the space (trying to avoid any SR incidents because of a terrible race I had earlier this week where I was spun out and caused a massive wreck) but had to run my wheels slightly off the track and while trying to get the car to come back on the track I rubbed him a bit. Coming into the next chicane I still have the inside line and during the first half he tries to turn right through me, and then in the second half he taps my bumper again causing himself to spin slightly and to lose his position to the guy who was in 4th. I mess up in the next corner (probably because I'm a little flustered at this point and some tire wear) and the guy who is now in 3rd has the run on me and the inside line to the next corner. Things get a little sporty there with him rubbing me a little at entry and me rubbing him a little through the turn but I stayed on the brakes a little to try and avoid anything worse. So as I drop back to 3rd the offender (who is has been in 4th since the last time he hit me) decides to take this opportunity to spin me, which I'm able to hold and stay on the track. He caught a 3s penalty for this (and the guy who is now in 2nd caught a 2s penalty somewhere) so I figure I might have a chance to catch back up in the penalty zone during this lap or the next, so I keep pushing hard to catch up as much as possible. The game makes them serve their penalty this lap and I'm getting a good run on both 3rd and 2nd (although I think 2nd probably keeps his spot). I'm intentionally looking to pass 3rd on the right side to avoid any "unghosting" incidents, but he is a sore loser and decides to swerve in front of me at the last moment and the game "crashes" me into his ghosted car, damaging my engine and basically keeping me from the possibility of even catching him later in the race (it fixed itself on the next straight, but by that point he put a huge gap on me that I was only able to knock down a couple of seconds by the end of the race).

The whole situation is unacceptable to me. Letting people like that compete in an esport and designing a game around esports with that kind of flaw is unacceptable. I'm not even mad about the result, as there was a good chance I was going to be 3rd or 4th anyways as my tires seemed to be wearing out faster than the two guys behind me, and finishing anywhere up there is a pretty good ending for me, I'd just like to see it happen fairly. What makes it even worse is that a lot of incidents that happen in this game could be attributed to mistakes and inexperience, but this was blatant.
 
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I really enjoyed your race video. I was so excited that you got the fourth position at last. I did not like how the TT driver was going back and forth to avoid you drifting.
You did a very good and patient race and that really paid off.
Well done !
Thanks for watching :cheers:
Yeah his defensive driving was questionable, the guy who finished 6th also got done over by it.
I knew I'd lose a ton of time if I was to battle him so decided to try and stay patient and luckily this time it came off.
 
What an absolute ******** manu was... first run I qualified 17th due to bad qualifying, found myself running in the top 10 by the end of lap two only to be punted by someone when trying to overtake them, flash foward to the second and final time slot for me, qualified 6th, first turn someone straight up cut the second chicane and got a whopping 0 penalty, by this point my disbelief in the absurdity of the penalty system at Monza caused me to look at a kerb wrong and catch a sweet 1.5 second penalty, putting me down in the teens for position after the first lap, after working my way up to 10th once again, I got spun out by someone else on the second chicane. Managed to finish 9th after all was said and done... I honestly cannot with these track limits, and I’m ready to move in from ford.
 
Had some real BS happen in my FIA race yesterday...



So this starts on lap 8 of 11 from the view of the offender. I've been in 2nd pretty much the whole race (I'm driving the green Mustang) but I caught a 0.5 second penalty due to the track limits. The guy in 3rd is almost able to pass me on the straight due to this, and to try and avoid any accidents in the turn I brake a little harder than normal to slip in behind this guy and attempt to pass him on the next straight, which is where I change the camera view to myself for the rest of the clip. As I was getting ready to pass this guy on the outside he makes the move to block me which I then try to move to the inside, but I think there was the slightest bump between us which took the momentum away from me so I tuck back in behind him. As we approach the braking zone for the next corner I move to take the inside line to avoid any punting scenarios. The first half of the chicane goes well, the second half I jabbed the brakes to try and cut under him and have the inside line for the next turn which goes well also. This is where he starts to push me wide, and I try to give him the space (trying to avoid any SR incidents because of a terrible race I had earlier this week where I was spun out and caused a massive wreck) but had to run my wheels slightly off the track and while trying to get the car to come back on the track I rubbed him a bit. Coming into the next chicane I still have the inside line and during the first half he tries to turn right through me, and then in the second half he taps my bumper again causing himself to spin slightly and to lose his position to the guy who was in 4th. I mess up in the next corner (probably because I'm a little flustered at this point and some tire wear) and the guy who is now in 3rd has the run on me and the inside line to the next corner. Things get a little sporty there with him rubbing me a little at entry and me rubbing him a little through the turn but I stayed on the brakes a little to try and avoid anything worse. So as I drop back to 3rd the offender (who is has been in 4th since the last time he hit me) decides to take this opportunity to spin me, which I'm able to hold and stay on the track. He caught a 3s penalty for this (and the guy who is now in 2nd caught a 2s penalty somewhere) so I figure I might have a chance to catch back up in the penalty zone during this lap or the next, so I keep pushing hard to catch up as much as possible. The game makes them serve their penalty this lap and I'm getting a good run on both 3rd and 2nd (although I think 2nd probably keeps his spot). I'm intentionally looking to pass 3rd on the right side to avoid any "unghosting" incidents, but he is a sore loser and decides to swerve in front of me at the last moment and the game "crashes" me into his ghosted car, damaging my engine and basically keeping me from the possibility of even catching him later in the race (it fixed itself on the next straight, but by that point he put a huge gap on me that I was only able to knock down a couple of seconds by the end of the race).

The whole situation is unacceptable to me. Letting people like that compete in an esport and designing a game around esports with that kind of flaw is unacceptable. I'm not even mad about the result, as there was a good chance I was going to be 3rd or 4th anyways as my tires seemed to be wearing out faster than the two guys behind me, and finishing anywhere up there is a pretty good ending for me, I'd just like to see it happen fairly. What makes it even worse is that a lot of incidents that happen in this game could be attributed to mistakes and inexperience, but this was blatant.


At 1:28 in your video, you don't leave him any room. You took that chicane like he wasn't even there. I don't think he did anything really wrong. He was just trying to keep you wide in curve grande, never went over half track, and was hanging it around the outside on the left turn of the chicane when you cut across his bumber.
 
Now to round 4. In the Exhibition Series I had finished 3rd. In the Nations Cup however, I did not achieve the same amount of success. Onto the next round for me.

 
At 1:28 in your video, you don't leave him any room. You took that chicane like he wasn't even there. I don't think he did anything really wrong. He was just trying to keep you wide in curve grande, never went over half track, and was hanging it around the outside on the left turn of the chicane when you cut across his bumber.

Yeah I could have given him more room there and I went a little deeper than intended due to tire wear, but at the same time just a few seconds before that he was squeezing me off to the side of the track. Not exactly the move you should try if you want somebody else to respect your space & line. The contact in those corners didn't even bug me, purposely spinning me when he could have just passed & then blocking me after his penalty is scummy.
 
Not looking forward to Saturday's race. The long corners at Catalunya, are going to kill my Gr.4 Atenza. Just like everywhere else(well, Tokyo Expwy wasn't too bad.
 
Had some real BS happen in my FIA race yesterday...
damaging my engine and basically keeping me from the possibility of even catching him later in the race (it fixed itself on the next straight, but by that point he put a huge gap on me that I was only able to knock down a couple of seconds by the end of the race).

Fixing what? How were you able to fix the engine on the straight?
 
Fixing what? How were you able to fix the engine on the straight?
The game heals the engine (and other components like aero and suspension) by itself for 30 seconds in the Light Mechanical Damage setting, which is what the FIA races are using right now.
 
I’m looking foward to tomorrow’s races. Done some hot laps last night on both races and I’m only 5-6 sec off the top 10 with both Stangs. Usually I’m 10 sec off! :lol:. Good luck to all on Saturday!
 
I tried racing Catalunya in a lobby tonight, I was awful - lap times all over the place, track limit penalties left right and center, went off at the tight bend with the red run-off every time, was over a minute down by the end.

I think it's probably best if I skip tomorrows race. I'm not going to figure out the track sufficiently well in the short time remaining :/
 
I tried racing Catalunya in a lobby tonight, I was awful - lap times all over the place, track limit penalties left right and center, went off at the tight bend with the red run-off every time, was over a minute down by the end.

I think it's probably best if I skip tomorrows race. I'm not going to figure out the track sufficiently well in the short time remaining :/

Yeah, this will be a difficult race, as a DS4 user the mediums last only 5 laps :irked: so I ask to everyone: one stop or two ? :confused:
 
I was so close, then Nations Cup 2019 happened and I lost 5500 DR since the official season started.
Back down to B now. Haven't seen how much I lost. Did get a clean race on my last go before I rested.
 
The game heals the engine (and other components like aero and suspension) by itself for 30 seconds in the Light Mechanical Damage setting, which is what the FIA races are using right now.

Yep, it just "heals" itself after so long. It'll still kill your lap, but at least you dont have to pit like with heavy damage. On one hand I think that's great for people who punt, as it can help reduce the benefit of punting, but it also sucks that it can be exploited like that.
 
Anyone else noticing a distinct lack of track limits at Brands for Nations tomorrow? Complete opposite of Catalunya were I can barely do a quickish lap penalty free.
 
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