FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Kiki_Haoru]

Were you using traction control?

I set it to 1 for the race and I believe everybody did the same. Also set the fuel mix to 3 as I felt it was easier on acceleration...
It was my first attempt in the rain and I really liked it. It is a clearly different gameplay and it is still possible to race cleanly.

 

[pantherjag]

Nations

So being a bit of a rebel I decided to not take any of the fancied cars for this race(looking at you AMG and Porsche) and took my manu car out, the mighty Citreon.

Set a 1.56.0 in qauli but lost 2-3 tenths in final sector as someone took out the brake markers at the chicane which was annoying meaning I lined up 13th instead of well in the top 10. 1st to 18th was covered by 9 tenths. Close stuff.

Changed strat on the fly and pitted lap 6 to go for 2 stop instead of 1 as was stuck in am impeccably driven train of cars(seriously kudos to the drivers in my race driving so close yet respectfully and sensibly) Clean-ish air got me the jump on 4-5 cars and when pitted 2nd time on lap 10 I emerged in 12th. Made 2 nice passes into turn 1 and inherited 9th on last lap whilst harassing 8th but they defended well and so 9th from 13th it was. Was only 7 seconds from 2nd at end so small margins make big differences

Extremely fun race with differing strats, close racing and great driving from all involved. Just shy of 1500 points to kick season off.

Manufacturers

To be honest I wasnt looking forward to this race and nearly didnt do it but put in 20 mins practise before and gave it a shot.

So jumped in the Citreon and Lined up 12th in qualifying with a 1.46.7 which was my banker lap. Could get clear track and then binned it on turn one on my new tyres low fuel run.

Had to take avoiding action at turn 3 on lap 1 to avoid wiping a Porsche out which cost me 2 positions. From their on settled into a rhythm about 1 second behind a Z4 and picked up positions as others made mistakes till I was 9th and closing on a struggling Ferrari on lap 14. They lost it right in front of my nose exiting turn 5 and skewed left of the track but clipped my front despite me braking

Clenched my buttocks as I awaited the game deciding if I was responsible or not, I clearly wasnt but we know the penalty system can get these decisions wrong( see tidgneys last lap fight with tsu tsu at same race) Thankfully no penalty popped up and we took a decent 8th place and 1500 points to kick of the season. I wouldn't say this race was fun but the tension and concentration required to keep it on the island for 27 mins was evident and in that respect a worthwhile experience.

Super GT won that race from pole with a fine drive.

Finally big credit to PD for listening(well I guess they did) to the community about wanting longer races. Great start and intial testing of the nations group 2 race suggests that's going to be awesome as well. Till Saturday.

 

[Famine]

do the points add up if you do all 3 of the same races?

No, only your last race counts.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Hopped on to the Interlagos TT and got a 1:30.8 (Aston Martin).
Now that it's not spinning around in the rain, this car is lovely to drive!

 

[Jeeves_ACBC]

Manufacturers was fun... the NSX was really quick but also tried to kill me several times. Qualified 6th, binned it on lap 2. Fought my way from 17th back to 10th.

Here's a clip of a crazy pass I managed to pull off. Penultimate lap, 2 cars, 1 corner.

 

[Famine]

For one race only, I'm now higher ranked for my manufacturer than an habitual GT Sport World Tour finalist... @Adam41

 

[Adam41]

For one race only, I'm now higher ranked for my manufacturer than an habitual GT Sport World Tour finalist... @Adam41

I couldn't believe how many MR cars there were in top split. The McLaren is MR but the mid corner understeer and turbo on power really doesn't help it! 16th or 17th was the best I could do.

 

[NeSSaYah]

The full wets in the rain on GT Sport, drive like you'd expect slicks to, with absolutely zero grip... which just makes zero sense at all.

I got the same feeling... Although yesterday's Manufacturer race in the rain went quite good for me. I was Q3 in Qualies (was Q1 for a minute before the end ) and no one hit me in turns 1 & 2 on lap #1. Basically it was quite a clean race - surprisingly, although I'm only C in DR. Perhaps S in SR helped
I was 2nd on first lap but few mistakes along the way made me end up 4th. I knew I could do better but sadly got disconnected when the 2nd race was loading...
Love how I had to be focused for the whole race not to spin out. TCS #2 helped a lot. Chang the fuel mixture helps too IMO but I didn't do it in the race.
It seems like the advantage of using Manual GearBox is even more on Wet than on Dry. You can avoid the wheel spin on high revs. 2 bad I can't do it on DS4...

I re-signed with McLaren for the exhibition season and I think I'll be sticking around longer. I went with the 650S for Gr.3 this time, after checking the calendar and seeing that it outperforms the F1 in the majority of the Gr.3 rounds.

How and where does exactly the 650S outperform the F1 when you got tracks like Tokyo Expressway - East Outer Loop, Fuji Speedway, Nurburgring Nordschleife, Lago Maggiore, Rebdull Ring & Monza? Defiantly you need a Power Car for this Exhibition season and defiantly the F1 would be better for the majority of races.

I drove the Citreon for the official season and compared to the lambo and Audi it's much more forgiving in terms of handling. Will only try and kill you every 3 laps instead of every 3 corners like the Audi lol

It's pretty good on tyres although start sliding and they will go off quickly. It's very good on fuel when short shifting which will be needed this season.

I'd recommend it, pulled some good results off with it

Also the group 4 car is decent, similar attributes to the group 3 in terms of tyres and fuel

Looks like a beast in the rear view mirror as well lol.

I'd love to see a really top player in the citreons as I feel they could make an impact in those cars

Although I'm not a big fan of Citroen as car manufacturer I decided to go with it this time as I don't have the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars in my garage yet.
I liked it a lot - to the point where I've chosen it for the Nations Cup as well - to fight back all the AMGs and Audis The only thing I don't like about it is the interior.
I mean - it looks very nice - like You were driving a Batmobile or piloting a Fighter Jet But You can't really see anything thru the windscreen ;(

How does tyre wear work on wet tracks? How quickly do they go off?

Barely... I don't see a reason to change tires. Like someone mentioned before - there was almost no tire use in the front and just a little in the rear.
But bear in mind the race got x5 tire ware - comparing to 10x in the Nations Cup.

I'm currently undecided on a manufacturer. Do I stay with Ford and continue practicing with the Mustangs or do I sign with Subaru and focus on having fun this season?

I'm leaning toward the latter. If the BoP changes for the official season next year are fair I will most definitely return to Ford.

It's exhibition - and according to people here you will be able to change cars before the real season so why not have some fun with some other manufacturers.
That's why I went for Citroen, mainly. Also because I don't have it in my Garage yet But if I don't like it - I won't feel bad about spending $$ on it.

No, only your last race counts.

Nope. The one that you gain most point of counts.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

I got the same feeling... Although yesterday's Manufacturer race in the rain went quite good for me. I was Q3 in Qualies (was Q1 for a minute before the end ) and no one hit me in turns 1 & 2 on lap #1. Basically it was quite a clean race - surprisingly, although I'm only C in DR. Perhaps S in SR helped
I was 2nd on first lap but few mistakes along the way made me end up 4th. I knew I could do better but sadly got disconnected when the 2nd race was loading...
Love how I had to be focused for the whole race not to spin out. TCS #2 helped a lot. Chang the fuel mixture helps too IMO but I didn't do it in the race.
It seems like the advantage of using Manual GearBox is even more on Wet than on Dry. You can avoid the wheel spin on high revs. 2 bad I can't do it on DS4...

How and where does exactly the 650S outperform the F1 when you got tracks like Tokyo Expressway - East Outer Loop, Fuji Speedway, Nurburgring Nordschleife, Lago Maggiore, Rebdull Ring & Monza? Defiantly you need a Power Car for this Exhibition season and defiantly the F1 would be better for the majority of races.



Although I'm not a big fan of Citroen as car manufacturer I decided to go with it this time as I don't have the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars in my garage yet.
I liked it a lot - to the point where I've chosen it for the Nations Cup as well - to fight back all the AMGs and Audis The only thing I don't like about it is the interior.
I mean - it looks very nice - like You were driving a Batmobile or piloting a Fighter Jet But You can't really see anything thru the windscreen ;(



Barely... I don't see a reason to change tires. Like someone mentioned before - there was almost no tire use in the front and just a little in the rear.
But bear in mind the race got x5 tire ware - comparing to 10x in the Nations Cup.


It's exhibition - and according to people here you will be able to change cars before the real season so why not have some fun with some other manufacturers.
That's why I went for Citroen, mainly. Also because I don't have it in my Garage yet But if I don't like it - I won't feel bad about spending $$ on it.

Nope. The one that you gain most point of counts.

The last race you participate in counts, otherwise there’d be no disincentive against trying again

 

[Famine]

Nope. The one that you gain most point of counts.

Has that changed for the Exhibition Series then? Only it's always been the last race you do - as evidenced by the number of people making threads and posts on GTPlanet asking why they got lower points after doing worse in a subsequent race (like this and this), and the official website which still says this:

5. POINTS

When a player participates in and finishes an online race, points are awarded according to their final position. The points gained are determined automatically by the average Driver Rating of all players matched in that race.

*If players enter more than one race in the same Round, only the points earned in the last race of the day will count towards their Online Ranking for that Round..

 

[NeSSaYah]

The last race you participate in counts, otherwise there’d be no disincentive against trying again

Well it's the same in both cases - you can try again to gain more points in the next race ;P

Has that changed for the Exhibition Series then? Only it's always been the last race you do - as evidenced by the number of people making threads and posts on GTPlanet asking why they got lower points after doing worse in a subsequent race (like this and this), and the official website which still says this:

I believe I've red it somewhere in this forum that You gain points from the race where you got most of them.
If that's not true I am willing to accept my failure

As a side note - is my DR available somewhere? Or still only via tool/site I need to buy?
What was it? - Kutos? Kudos or something like that.

 

[Rangeraus]

Has that changed for the Exhibition Series then?

Can confirm the last race you enter in the round is still the only one that counts.

Makozi entered and won all 3 Oceania manufacturer races on Wednesday night but ended up 7th overall after the round was finished, as each race was worth less points than the one before.

I jagged 33 manufacturer points for finishing P4 in the first timeslot despite pretty ordinary pace. If I get that again this season I will be pretty happy.

 

[hairless_ape]

Couldn't get below 1:50 in the 5 or 6 practice laps I ran for manufacturer's, so I didn't bother. That's what I get for always avoiding RBR and having never driven GTS in the rain yet. Ah well, maybe I'll race next week.

 

[Riptide]

Has that changed for the Exhibition Series then? Only it's always been the last race you do - as evidenced by the number of people making threads and posts on GTPlanet asking why they got lower points after doing worse in a subsequent race (like this and this), and the official website which still says this:

Well it's the same in both cases - you can try again to gain more points in the next race ;P

I believe I've red it somewhere in this forum that You gain points from the race where you got most of them.
If that's not true I am willing to accept my failure

Nothing has changed. Only the points from the driver's last race counts - for better or for worse.

 

[tonyNOS]

A lot of drama yesterday at RBR wet.I haven't competed for many months, but I know what my 4c can do, so I entered the race. There was already another driver with the 4c who took pole position, I started from the last position thanks to all those who do not know how to do a clean qualifying. In the race I recovered from 17 to 8; here the epilogue, the pilots involved said that I am a dirty driver

 

[Lucas180]

No, only your last race counts.

so if you finish in a better position you gain the additional points? if you finish in a worse position does it use those results instead ?

nvm think its been answered

 

[Pelikan]

Well, I went with Subaru. Hoping to make the Top 16 race again...*fingers crossed.

Ran the middle race last night and finished P5 in the top split. Spent nearly the entire race within .5 to 1.5 seconds trailing P4, I just couldn’t manage a safe overtake. RBR in the rain was a lot of fun.

 

[afc5150]

Team No Name Lexus made it's Manufacturers Cup Exhibition series debut last night, and I was pleasantly surprised that despite maybe 10 laps on a wet track total prior to qualifying, I managed to qualify 17th and bring the beast home in P8! Lots of intense, close and most importantly, CLEAN racing. Only 2 of the 9 places made were through attrition, the rest were legitimate passes.

I decided to stay with Lexus for this season, as I find the cars nice and consistent and suited to my driving style, while not being the fastest out there.
Onward and upward!

 

[stpatty]

Having a look at the EMEA drivers who've picked Nissan I think I might end up getting an S rank. You need to be top ten in your manufacturer, right?

 

[Pfei]

Having a look at the EMEA drivers who've picked Nissan I think I might end up getting an S rank. You need to be top ten in your manufacturer, right?

Top six now after the regions were split.

 

[hairless_ape]

Team No Name Lexus made it's Manufacturers Cup Exhibition series debut last night, and I was pleasantly surprised that despite maybe 10 laps on a wet track total prior to qualifying, I managed to qualify 17th and bring the beast home in P8! Lots of intense, close and most importantly, CLEAN racing. Only 2 of the 9 places made were through attrition, the rest were legitimate passes.

I decided to stay with Lexus for this season, as I find the cars nice and consistent and suited to my driving style, while not being the fastest out there.
Onward and upward! View attachment 852032 View attachment 852033

Is the '16 RC-F really all that superior to the '17? I ask because I notice that darn near everyone who chooses Lexus in FIA opts for the older car. And I haven't used either car enough to have an informed opinion.

 

[afc5150]

Is the '16 RC-F really all that superior to the '17? I ask because I notice that darn near everyone who chooses Lexus in FIA opts for the older car. And I haven't used either car enough to have an informed opinion.

Things have probably changed with the various physics updates, but all I remember is prior to last season, I took both the '16 and '17 out for multiple laps at multiple tracks, and the older car was consistently just a wee bit faster, and possibly a little better in the tire wear department.. when I renewed with Lexus the other day, it never even occured to me to try out the '17!

 

[Famine]

Top six now after the regions were split.

Nope. Top five for Central/South America, still top ten for Europe.

"Star Players" are players who exhibit superior technique and sportsmanship, that are revered by all players. It will be necessary for drivers to register more detailed profile information that will be used during race reports and Live Events. The "Star Players" Driver Rating in-game will appear as "S".

The players at the top of the rankings at the end of each Stage can register as "Star Players" on gran-turismo.com.

The "Star Player" prerequisites for each Region are as follows:

Europe / Middle East / Africa
Nations - Top 200, or top 10 from each country
Manufacturers - Top 200, or top 10 from each manufacturer
North America
Nations - Top 140, or top 10 from each country
Manufacturers - Top 140, or top 5 from each manufacturer
Central & South America
Nations - Top 60, or top 10 from each country
Manufacturers - Top 60, or top 5 from each manufacturer
Asia
Nations - Top 150, or top 10 from each country
Manufacturers - Top 150, or top 5 from each manufacturer
Oceania
Nations - Top 50, or top 10 from each country
Manufacturers - Top 50, or top 5 from each manufacturer

Also lol "revered".

 

[hairless_ape]

Tech 1 Racing? That's a suspiciously familiar logo on the door.

Marc VDS Racing Logo...it's been on a lot of GT3 cars. They shut down the 4 wheel racing team at the end of 2015.

 

[stpatty]

Nope. Top five for Central/South America, still top ten for Europe.

I'm 17th and ahead of a guy who was top 3 last season. It's on.

 

[Famine]

I'm 17th and ahead of a guy who was top 3 last season. It's on.

I'm in eighth and showing a GT World Tour finalist and World Finalist a clean set of brake lights...


... which will last until Saturday when he destroys me.

 

[MIE1992]

I think it says something that there's one N-Series race in the Nations Cup Exhibition Season 1 schedule, and it's a one-make. It's really too bad about the balancing because if they had races that replicated events from various campaigns, that could be neat, like those daily races where you were limited to the late 90s/early 00s JDM cars.

I think there should be a way to avoid having the field in various Sport Mode events be so homogenous, ignoring one-make events. It doesn't feel very interesting when you have multiple options yet everyone picks the same car. Maybe the cars should be better-balanced (e.g. having BoP also account for downforce & final gear ratio) but then they could be random, forcing players to adapt.

I also think that when tuning is disabled, you shouldn't be permitted to use "interclass" N-series cars. It sort of defeats the point of the N-series, AFAIK, when you not only have minute changes to power/weight as an inherent part of BoP, but also when you can radically change the power to have a car go into another N-class, and let BoP do the rest. It's arguably antithetical to the concept. I also wonder if it'd be warranted to make another class for cars like the Mazda Roadster Touring Car and Toyota S-FR Racing Concept? Maybe a class (or even a series of classes) for tuners? Heck, it could even include cars that've had parts added by the player, such as custom wings. It'd also include the cars that've been picked by PD from the Tokyo Auto Salon & SEMA, except for the drift cars, as they'd go into their own class.

Basically, each class could have further rules beyond just what cars fit into it. Like the N-Series would always have tuning disabled beyond BoP, and each N-class would only allow cars that come stock as part of that class. But for a hypothetical M-Series (as in, 'M' for modified), tuning would always be available to various capacities - it could be all the potential settings, or just one setting, or one section, or a combination. There could be upper/lower limits for each metric (rather than just a minimum weight and maximum power) in some cases, too.

 

[mobilmasher]

I think Saturdays Manufacturer race at Interlagos will require the use of both tire compounds. It requires the use of hards when mediums are also available.

 

[breeminator]

Can anyone think of a way to establish the size of time penalty that is applied at the end if you haven't used the required tyre type? Impossible to judge the best strategy without knowing that.

 

[theschledy]

Can anyone think of a way to establish the size of time penalty that is applied at the end if you haven't used the required tyre type? Impossible to judge the best strategy without knowing that.

My guess is it's no less than 30 seconds. But I anticipate it's going to be higher.
In any event, even without the tire requirements I don't think this race would be a very quick no-stop.