Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[CTznOfTime]

For some reason when using the manual shifter, there is no need to use the clutch to change gears in the Power Pack races. At least with the logitech shifter i'm using. It's like all the cars are semi-automatic (well i just tried the Abarth and the Porsche '73)

It's the same thing with online races... The H-pattern manual shifter doesn't require the clutch while playing GT7 online, (GT Sport)....

I haven't played with the PP, but that's my guess based on previous observations.

Otherwise we shifter might have an advantage, at least that is also my guess

 

[Gerarghini]

It's the same thing with online races... The H-pattern manual shifter doesn't require the clutch while playing GT7 online, (GT Sport)....

I haven't played with the PP, but that's my guess based on previous observations.

Otherwise we shifter might have an advantage, at least that is also my guess

Doesn't Sport mode completely disable the H-shifter? It doesn't work when I do the time trials in cars that would normally use one.

 

[CTznOfTime]

Doesn't Sport mode completely disable the H-shifter? It doesn't work when I do the time trials in cars that would normally use one.

That's probably what I meant to say...

 

[Pie O My]

I bought it but haven't started it.

This thread's not inspiring me with hope.

 

[05XR8]

I bought it but haven't started it.

This thread's not inspiring me with hope.

You won’t be disappointed with the gift cars though.

 

[jrbabbitt]

That's got to be like a year's worth of pens...

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This is why Nascar got stupid...

 

[Theufcveteran]

I bought it but haven't started it.

This thread's not inspiring me with hope.

So far I’ve had good experiences. 3 races (Civic at Tokyo, Hachiroku at Tsukuba and FF Tuning Battle at Dragon Trail Gardens).

Picked the middle car at Tokyo and Dragon Trail, and the fastest one at Tsukuba, I’m a little above average pace wise (silver in time trials).

I had at least one car hounding me and I only won a single race. Granted in the Civic race I started in like 3rd gear lol but I struggled in qualifying and got 9th there and in the race.

It seems like the AI speed is such that you get small packs of cars with similar pace, probably so you don’t get left behind if you’re a slower driver.

In one race I had a 4 car pack trailing first place, me part of it, not sure if it will stay like that but even if it’s a 1 on 1 eventually and the rest are slower, still better than the base game.

 

[05XR8]

So, uh.. yeah. What the heck?

The race before at Monza, I had to defend for my life. I knew something wasn’t right when I qualified two seconds quicker. Beating SOPHY(this is fake sophy - fs) five seconds per lap. Nope, not the SOPHY I know.

 

[Kedmasterz]

The Monza Porsche race is weird, I struggled for 2nd with the 996 GT3 , but easily won the 2 chillis with the carrera RS. The dragon trail I also have something around 20+ seconds with the 991.

I feel the PP isn’t well balanced between event and difficulty, feels very random at time.

 

[Gomario JSP]

I still don't know what to think of Sophy, i remember the Sophy challenge 1 vs 1 at Tsukuba, that was epic, smart and fair most of the time, i mean, it's definately faster now but it isn't realy smarter, i does notice when you leave a gap but handles the wrong way most of the time by divebomming into it, but i can live with that, leave a gap and you'll be punnished, that's fair.

But... for example, yesterday i did the 1000hp at Deepforrest, i started out with the 911 as a 1 pepper but on racing hards there is just to much wheelspin so nr two mr Myazono in the R33 comes flying by.
Then thought what would be the difference in traction with the Gallardo ( non pepper car ) i was off the line quite good and had T1 and already had trouble keeping him behind for lap 1, ( his tires are already warm on start or something? )

T1 in lap 2 he completely divebombed me and didn't realy worked out for him, he spun out but fought his way back within 5 laps , for the 7 remaning laps i realy had to hammer even the non pepper car to keep him of my tail, was a descent but kind of stressfull bunch of laps

Fun, but has nothing to do with the sophy 1 vs 1 that we had.

The other thing i can't stand is the blue flag..... why is there a blue flag if non of the AI even reacts to it???,
They completely take the racingline on a flag..

Still glad i bought the pack, battles are good, but i just wish it was with the whole grid not only with P2

 

[Fezzik]

Blue flag is just to warn the slower car that it’s about to be lapped. They don’t have to jump out of the way, it’s up to you to pass safely. This isn’t F1.

 

[Lomic]

How the heck did 1st qualify almost 5 seconds faster than 2nd if the AI is the same for all non player cars?

I don't know what AI is supposed to be, but from the 4 races I've done so far, there is always between 1 and 3 very fast AIs, and after that the other ones are left in the dust, with last AIs so slow you can lap the last ones if the race is more than 3 laps.

If you start first, not miss the start, you end up battling for 1st with 1 or 2 AIs may be, and never see the rest of the field after a few turns.

Good battles with those fast AIs though and I did not won all my races and will need to work a bit to get the stars I missed.

Better than chase the rabbit in regular events, but still weird format of racing, and AI not behaving like a 3.0 Sophy, much scripting and rubberbanding, feels like an act where all AI actors have a set role to play, and I am the only one thinking it is real racing.

 

[Gomario JSP]

Blue flag is just to warn the slower car that it’s about to be lapped. They don’t have to jump out of the way, it’s up to you to pass safely. This isn’t F1.

that explains a lot 👍

I always though you have to let the faster upcomming car lap you in a save way meaning getting of the line,
so technically blue flag in F1 is kind of different from a blue flag in other catagories?

* edit , i see indeed " In most series, the blue flag is not mandatory—drivers obey it only as a courtesy to their fellow racers"

So i learned something today 👍 thanks! ( i will now yell a bit less at the AI )

 

[vcx]

Pepper races are more difficult because of the AI? Or AI is same but car control/hp much worst than 1st car selection and thats why pepper?

 

[JC_Dude]

Pepper races are more difficult because of the AI? Or AI is same but car control/hp much worst than 1st car selection and thats why pepper?

The latter. You just get an inferior car.

 

[vcx]

The latter. You just get an inferior car.

Thank you so much for the info and the reply👍

 

[suomi1]

So, uh.. yeah. What the heck?

The race before at Monza, I had to defend for my life. I knew something wasn’t right when I qualified two seconds quicker. Beating SOPHY(this is fake sophy - fs) five seconds per lap. Nope, not the SOPHY I know.

Her sister, SLOPHY.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

The other thing i can't stand is the blue flag..... why is there a blue flag if non of the AI even reacts to it???,
They completely take the racingline on a flag..

Still glad i bought the pack, battles are good, but i just wish it was with the whole grid not only with P2

Blue flag in series other than f1 dont mean get the **** out of the way, it means watch out there is a lapping car behind, it is still the job of the car overtaking to make a safe pass. Usually the slower car will use their indicator to say, I see you, Ill keep to this part of the track. But they absolutely not need to get out of the racing line.

Just to be clear this is not a comment on how sophy handle blue flag but just a reminder that F1 rules arent what gt or endurance serie use.

 

[Seikenfreak]

Part of the problem with the blue flag is that they still try to race you. By them not moving out of the way, it's also them trying to go wheel-to-wheel as if they are fighting you for position. You'll try to make the pass and they'll try and pass you right back, potentially causing an accident. Similar to the Pokemon's Hold B to catch one theory, mine is that flashing your high beams at them (like you would in real life) feels like it has an affect on their behavior. Like they are less defensive when you try to pass. But it's probably just in my head.

Don't have much time to type but I played it all last weekend. Already aired a few of my complaints earlier. At this point, I'm just doing them all on 0 chili; focusing on getting clean race bonus, unlocking the cars, and earning credits. Most races I can easily win, but some the 2nd place car is right behind me the whole race. I agree there is an imbalance in difficulty across the races. Later on, I may come back to try some of the specific races I liked on 2 chilis. As of now though, it's taking so long even to just easily coast through most of the races. I ain't got time for all that.

So far I think I completed all but one of the historic races. Same for the Japan-Asia section.

Still annoyed I can't turn off the player names/icons above cars.

 

[Gomario JSP]

Blue flag in series other than f1 dont mean get the **** out of the way, it means watch out there is a lapping car behind, it is still the job of the car overtaking to make a safe pass. Usually the slower car will use their indicator to say, I see you, Ill keep to this part of the track. But they absolutely not need to get out of the racing line.

Just to be clear this is not a comment on how sophy handle blue flag but just a reminder that F1 rules arent what gt or endurance serie use.

Yeah i asumed the flag was the same everywhere, and I only watch F1 in terms of motorsport, but thats kind of clear now 🤣

 

[pabloprp69]

but even if it’s a 1 on 1 eventually and the rest are slower, still better than the base game.

The fact that these statements are being made tells you everything you need to know about this "Sophy". This is not Sophy, this is just a highly scripted, unbalanced mess . The performance is massively different in each car.


This has nothing to do with Sophy from custom race. I don't mean to repeat myself, but for all new players that don't know what Sophy is capable of, go to custom race, and try to replicate a few of the power pack races. Important to know to set up boost to weak. Try stock cars, it's up to you to have road or race cars. Make sure pp is around the same, and all cars has the same type of tires. Come back and report your findings.


My biggest gripe with the power pack is that they advertised Sophy 3.0 being this natural evolution, so smart and strong, and arguably more real than ever...yeah.. not at all. Not at all.

 

[Famine]

Think you should see your doctor about that....

If you want limits on your peepee, and punishment for overstepping them, that's up to you...

 

[benjoi84]

So far I’ve had good experiences. 3 races (Civic at Tokyo, Hachiroku at Tsukuba and FF Tuning Battle at Dragon Trail Gardens).

Picked the middle car at Tokyo and Dragon Trail, and the fastest one at Tsukuba, I’m a little above average pace wise (silver in time trials).

I had at least one car hounding me and I only won a single race. Granted in the Civic race I started in like 3rd gear lol but I struggled in qualifying and got 9th there and in the race.

It seems like the AI speed is such that you get small packs of cars with similar pace, probably so you don’t get left behind if you’re a slower driver.

In one race I had a 4 car pack trailing first place, me part of it, not sure if it will stay like that but even if it’s a 1 on 1 eventually and the rest are slower, still better than the base game.

There's definitely an "inclusive" policy when it comes to difficulty. Ain't that just the GT story all over?

On my first attempt at the FF tuning event at Dragon Trail Gardens, I had a decent couple of laps vs the AI on Easy and Medium, but i just couldn't match Miyazono's Hyundai in the Hard race. Maybe after a couple of attempts I'll have the car a bit more dialed in.

 

[snowgt]

I did not take part in qualifying, just watched for 16 minutes. How the heck did 1st qualify almost 5 seconds faster than 2nd if the AI is the same for all non player cars?

Just because they are driving the same car doesn't mean they are driving the same spec of the car. This is pretty obvious e.g. with the 2-chili Elantra opponent which is much faster on straights. So, to spread the field out, they might have nerf'ed the 2nd place car a little. Doesn't mean the AI driving the cars is not behaving the same.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I bought it but haven't started it.

This thread's not inspiring me with hope.

Don't listen to the haters. I'm almost sone the branches and I'm more than satisfied. People are making inaccurate generalized statements. The difficulty is varied, and that's a good thing. Try 1 pepper first, if it's too hard, start again on 0 peppers and work your way through it.

I've done all the difficulties. Sometimes 2 peppers is easy (to me) and sometimes 0 peppers is surprisingly difficult.

The cars that you get are all amazing (so far). I got the 930 Safari last night and it's quickly becoming a favorite. I threw RH tires on it and ripped around Yas Marina doing hot laps and it was SO MUCH FUN!!

If this is any indication of future DLC, they can take my money now.

 

[snowgt]

The Monza Porsche race is weird, I struggled for 2nd with the 996 GT3 , but easily won the 2 chillis with the carrera RS. The dragon trail I also have something around 20+ seconds with the 991.

I feel the PP isn’t well balanced between event and difficulty, feels very random at time.

The 2-chilli Carrera is bad around corners and therefore has a lot of power to make up for it. This makes it more competitive on a power track. It's not a mystery. Just check the cars' specs.

 

[Lomic]

So, to spread the field out, they might have nerf'ed the 2nd place car a little.

I don't know what is the cause of what we see on track, but in the end, it's a duel between 2 or 3 cars and the rest of the field could as well be staying in the pits. The only time we see them is when we begin to lap them. Feels like 1 or 2 AI got Sophy 3.0 update, and all the others get 2.0 or even regular AI + scripting to slow down.

 

[Nebuc72]

Don't listen to the haters. I'm almost sone the branches and I'm more than satisfied. People are making inaccurate generalized statements. The difficulty is varied, and that's a good thing. Try 1 pepper first, if it's too hard, start again on 0 peppers and work your way through it.

I've done all the difficulties. Sometimes 2 peppers is easy (to me) and sometimes 0 peppers is surprisingly difficult.

The cars that you get are all amazing (so far). I got the 930 Safari last night and it's quickly becoming a favorite. I threw RH tires on it and ripped around Yas Marina doing hot laps and it was SO MUCH FUN!!

If this is any indication of future DLC, they can take my money now.

You have a strong habit of making people with valid criticism out as haters.
There is plenty to dislike about the pack format.

Ultimately, the 2 pepper chilli racing is artificial. It might be close, but it's not real racing. You are usually down 150hp, and slow in the straights to make up for the fact the AI is slow in the corners. Sometimes you have more power, but no brakes, allowing the AI to gain the time there instead.

Yes, all that can lead to photo finishes, and if you're in it purely for challenge then that's completely suitable and fun.

But that's not racing, and if you want actual racing like you get online or in real life then it's really not the pack for you. It's 50 challenge events, against one, maybe two cars, but it's not 50 races.

I do think the slower you are at the game, the more fun there is to be had. More variety in your car choices, and more of an actual race where you don't have a stupidly high straight line deficit versus the AI.
If you're fast enough that 1 chilli is too easy, there's little racing to be had. It's just how far ahead can you get before they gain it all back on the next straight.

The 6 cars were worth the money to me. The events not so much.

 

[05XR8]

Here’s the lowest I could get the Rally 930 with its non-rally parts.

 

[mastretta_mx]

The good thing of not being an alien or a "Sim racing Verstappen" is that I am finding fun and challenging the races of the power pack🤭🤭