Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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Japanese doesn't have the singular/plural noun distinction that English does. So I don't think you can really assume much based on this specific translation.

Huh? In the Closed Captions he says games. Does he mean game? He says races. Does he mean race? Here’s the Closed Caption.
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This could just mean this power pack might be the only one with this kind of content. We might not see these kind of endurance races outside of this Power Pack.

I’m not assuming. I said if. I obviously don’t know. The PlayStation blog reads 24 races. Is the blog more accurate? It then reads:
  • 24-hour endurance racing for players who crave the ultimate test of skill and stamina.
That could mean one or more than one race.

Is the Gran Turismo website more accurate than the Playstation blog? The Gran Turismo website reads:

Fifty new races across six distinctive themes, featuring intense 24-hour endurance eventS​


If we get all the main 24 hour real world races, that would be incredible. As mentioned by another member, a full grid of jumbled Gr.1 cars is going to be weird and not real. Group C seems a much better fit. I can see Gr.3 getting top billing, as that’s PD’s go to for pretty much the whole game. There are more realistic cars in that category for a real immersion in replicating an endurance race.

I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong. I’m going by the various information being given.
 
You're both talking about Qualifying. @Nakano219 was talking about Practice, before qualifying:

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Practicing helps when all you have is car setup. I guess it’s not super important in GT7 because you can just run a meta car/tune. But when it’s all cars classed together and the only thing you can do is set the car up, practice becomes important. I don’t practice a ton but enough to start getting in some decent laps with minimal mistakes. It does matter when you’re qualifying otherwise you just make your mistakes during qualifying and then what’s the point in qualifying. And sorry if I read his statement as qualifying… but he started with that only stating at the very end of his paragraph that he was in fact talking about practice.


You’ll have to give me a break on that.
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I'll be honest, for me personally, PRACTICING is something I've never felt a single-player racing game has ever actually been improved by adding dedicated practice sessions.

I get the mimicking reality aspect but it always just boils down to becoming an extra menu and loading screen you skip through.

But I will say qualifying is neat.

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Reads a lot differently like that.
 
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Yes it does. Again, if you disagree with what you're getting, vote with your wallet. If you choose not to do that and buy it anyway, then you are contributing to the things you're complaining about.
Your statement fits perfectly into a world that operates solely on ones and zeros or black and white.

This is often called "theory."

In reality, however, we live in a world where factors like expectations and hopes also play a role.

And companies like Sony, PD, and the good Kaz know this.

Therefore, if you're a fan of the older titles, you had almost no chance of opting out of the product. After all, you were led to believe that it wasn't finished and that missing content would be added later.
 
Therefore, if you're a fan of the older titles, you had almost no chance of opting out of the product. After all, you were led to believe that it wasn't finished and that missing content would be added later.
If you bought the game on speculation because you hoped it would become something it was never promised to be, that's entirely on you.
 
looking at the Power Pack trailer and computer, enhance. Late model E80 Corolla Levin? They have it next to an image of the Shigeno
Trueno with the red interior, so the interior of this one being black suggests a new car and not a new aero part that gives the Levin facelift turn signals! Literally made an account here to post this because I couldn't find anyone who noticed this anywhere else!Levin.webp
 
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This could just mean this power pack might be the only one with this kind of content. We might not see these kind of endurance races outside of this Power Pack.
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I already wrote that two days ago...

If you bought the game on speculation because you hoped it would become something it was never promised to be, that's entirely on you.
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looking at the Power Pack trailer and computer, enhance. Late model E80 Corolla Levin? They have it next to an image of the Shigeno
Trueno with the red interior, so the interior of this one being black suggests a new car and not a new aero part that gives the Levin facelift turn signals! Literally made an account here to post this because I couldn't find anyone who noticed this anywhere else!View attachment 1491947

This is probably more in hope than expectation. Perhaps new customization options allow for different interior colours like in Test Drive. Face-lift turn signals? I just don't see them including a 4th variant of the Corolla/Levin.
 
This is probably more in hope than expectation. Perhaps new customization options allow for different interior colours like in Test Drive. Face-lift turn signals? I just don't see them including a 4th variant of the Corolla/Levin.
GT1 and GT2 had four AE86 variants, pre and post facelift versions of the 3 Door Trueno and Levin GT Apex. Not to mention GT4 having like, 50 GTR, Roadster, and FD RX7 variants so its not out of the realm of possibility for Polyphony imo. Personally I think a GTV 3 Door or GT 2 Door AE86 would be really cool to see, every game has the GT Apex but lets give the mid trim some love!
 
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the nsx showed in jgtc championchip might be loan car, but that dosent mean we wont be able to use garage cars as long as they are eligable.

Very intrested in cars you can see in this dlc because you can clearly see their is parts or exclusive cars we dont have in game,

I expect around €30 for this


I even more excited for this dlc than spec lll itself. It sure look to bring so much to the table witch is what the game really needs, and i dont mind paying for it.

Having both spec lll and power pack is sure huge for gt7 much bigger than we would be expecting for almost a 4 year old game.

I am sure a bit steriled with gt7 at the moment but this will bring a lot of new life back into it,

I suspect spec lll might also then release on december 4th but we see.


Their is more details we still dont know yet. And excited to find out more soon.
 
If I were a betting man, I'd say that the PS4 and PS5 development are two separate branches. And since the PS4 is old as dirt and people should've moved onto PS5 now, they've made the decision to stop spending so much time and energy keeping a dead horse alive and made the decision to focus the budget on moving forward.
Making standalone DLC available only on PS5 is one thing. But it is my opinion that PD can only properly proceed down this path if they do not produce further game updates for the PS4 version of the game. This would mean that they should also end support for Sport Mode and online lobbies for the PS4 version of the game. A generous notice period can be given for this.

The most obvious reason I think this should happen is that, on top of diluting development resources, lobbies and sport mode races currently support both PS4 and PS5 players in them, as a result they're both limited to 16 players - equal to or less than the limit in GT Sport, which was released on a now 12-year-old console 8 years ago.

This is one of the biggest handbrakes in terms of the overall GT7 experience. It is almost 2026... pretty much every other sim racing platform and GaaS game support 24 or more online players, whereas Sony's flagship first-party racing game does not.
 
Your statement fits perfectly into a world that operates solely on ones and zeros or black and white.

This is often called "theory."

In reality, however, we live in a world where factors like expectations and hopes also play a role.

And companies like Sony, PD, and the good Kaz know this.

Therefore, if you're a fan of the older titles, you had almost no chance of opting out of the product. After all, you were led to believe that it wasn't finished and that missing content would be added later.
My statement fits into a world where people have a modicum of responsibility and self-discipline. I'm one of those lifelong fans that must've spent several 1000 hours on the series since GT1, and had grown disillusioned with GT5 and 6. I looked at GT7 at launch and though, no, this isn't worth my money at full price. I jumped in after Spec II at a decent discount and never regretted it. So yeah, it's not just theory, I opted out and voted with my wallet. And if I had bought it at launch, I wouldn't be here complaining about how Polyphony owe me something.

Look, I get being disappointed. It's only human and no one can blame you for it. But disappointment is not an excuse for entitlement. We're all responsible for our own purchases.
 
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Huh? In the Closed Captions he says games. Does he mean game? He says races. Does he mean race? Here’s the Closed Caption.
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This could just mean this power pack might be the only one with this kind of content. We might not see these kind of endurance races outside of this Power Pack.

I’m not assuming. I said if. I obviously don’t know. The PlayStation blog reads 24 races. Is the blog more accurate? It then reads:

That could mean one or more than one race.

Is the Gran Turismo website more accurate than the Playstation blog? The Gran Turismo website reads:

Fifty new races across six distinctive themes, featuring intense 24-hour endurance eventS​


If we get all the main 24 hour real world races, that would be incredible. As mentioned by another member, a full grid of jumbled Gr.1 cars is going to be weird and not real. Group C seems a much better fit. I can see Gr.3 getting top billing, as that’s PD’s go to for pretty much the whole game. There are more realistic cars in that category for a real immersion in replicating an endurance race.

I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong. I’m going by the various information being given.
Words and concepts in other languages do not map 1:1 to English. Like I said, what he said does not necessarily indicate a single race in the way that "race" does in English, because Japanese doesn't have the same distinction between singular and plural nouns - they don't have a word that specifically means "races". Whoever made the captions decided to translate レース to "race", and earlier the equally "singular" ゲーム to "games" based on the context. Whether the translation of レース is because they had knowledge about the exact number of races, or if it was just some random contractor that guessed which was correct based on context, we don't know. But neither do you, and a translation of レース into "races" is not a "bad translation", it's just an equally valid guess based on context that we don't have yet.
 
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Words and concepts in other languages do not map 1:1 to English. Like I said, what he said does not necessarily indicate a single race in the way that "race" does in English, because Japanese doesn't have the same distinction between singular and plural nouns - they don't have a word that specifically means "races". Whoever made the captions decided to translate レース to "race", and earlier the equally "singular" ゲーム to "games" based on the context. Whether the translation of レース is because they had knowledge about the exact number of races, or if it was just some random contractor that guessed which was correct based on context, we don't know. But neither do you, and a translation of レース into "races" is not a "bad translation", it's just an equally valid guess based on context that we don't have yet.
I expects it’s just a Sony comms person, who may, never played/heard of Gran Turismo
 
No. As per the website "a new paid content for 'Gran Turismo 7' on PlayStation®5". The events will be Sophy events, at least that is the indication.


Can I assume that you have not raced in a Sophy custom race yet? With the boost setting, if you start last, you'll be lucky to make it to mid pack. If you want to win, you need to set your starting position near the front. Ergo, qualifying will be a necessity for the more challenging races going forward.
Thanks for the reply.My gripe with the sophy races is the annoying emojis,hopefully we can race against regular ai.We will know when more details ate released.
 
Speaking of which, please tell me you guys are making a little podcast/discussion vid. I love hearing level headed discussion about the game.

On a different positive note: @jrbabbitt 's free PS5 is now in the hands of UPS. Should only be a couple days. I hope he comes back to the forum and gives his opinions on how he likes GT7 on PS5 vs the PS4 and maybe convinces some people that it is a meaningful difference worth peoples money. I also hope Sophy crushes him under her boot! And I also hope he isn't on here stirring up trouble, being mean, makes me regret this decision :lol:

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It is really nice to see such behavior in a society that it is becoming more and more selfish with a growing financial inequality...
 
If you bought the game on speculation because you hoped it would become something it was never promised to be, that's entirely on you.
I agree with the gist of this, even though I am critical of GT7 and remain so. I don't regret the purchase as I've had my monies worth and GT7 isn't a bad game. But I am still critical because I think the game could easily have been so much better than it is.

The one bit I would argue, is that the initial marketing for GT7 very clearly was selling the game as a return to the classic GT mode of the past games. What we got is quite different in a number of key areas, so people may see that as a promise of something they didn't get. There's an element of subjectivity to how the game was marketed early on, but I can understand why some people expected more in some areas.

That said, most online game stores allow you to get a refund within a certain time and the option to wait for reviews and early opinions is always there if you resist the urge to preorder. So the choice is always ours as the consumer.

I rarely preorder games becuse so many of them end up not meeting your expectation and the dissapointment can feel heightened whereas if you don't preorder, you might still buy the game but you do it knowing exactly what you are getting. I will preorder FF7 Part 3 though, no doubt about that 😂.
 
This is one of the biggest handbrakes in terms of the overall GT7 experience. It is almost 2026... pretty much every other sim racing platform and GaaS game support 24 or more online players, whereas Sony's flagship first-party racing game does not.

Im not sure I get this very common rave how we need more cars on track. We anyways race the few in front and behind us. Yes it looks cool the first half a lap, but if you have those well matched 5-6 players near you, it really doesnt matter if you have 10 or 50 cars spread around the track.

In multi-class racing its a different story as you need 10-15 of each class.

One big thing I dont see would be ai filling online lobbies. Imagine any given online race with just few human participants could be filled with sophy ai drivers at will.
 
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On the subject of the 24 hour race(s): The Motorsport Games/WEC license definitely precludes anyone else from hosting a 24-hour online race at Le Mans as official content - iRacing don't do it any more, for instance.

I just wonder if that also extends to offline 24-hour races and might stop us from getting the obvious Le Mans/Gr.1 race you'd expect.
 
On the subject of the 24 hour race(s): The Motorsport Games/WEC license definitely precludes anyone else from hosting a 24-hour online race at Le Mans as official content - iRacing don't do it any more, for instance.

I just wonder if that also extends to offline 24-hour races and might stop us from getting the obvious Le Mans/Gr.1 race you'd expect.
iRacing still do it, it's just not called the 24 hour of Le Mans or marked as a 'special event' - there just so happens to be a 24 hour race at Le Mans in the Endurance series coinciding with the real Le Mans.
 
If you bought the game on speculation because you hoped it would become something it was never promised to be, that's entirely on you.
Well to be fair, there’s a whole lot of speculation going on after they announce and update coming or this dlc. The difference with a game is they have a pre-order and that usually comes with extra content that one does not want to miss out on.

I’ve purchased on speculation before because developers HINT at stuff which leaves things quite vague and your mind fills in the blanks. Might not be old enough to remember but a lot of PS1 games would show cut scene graphics on the back of the game case… only for you to find out the game doesn’t look like that at all. We purchased Jupiter Strike based on speculation. We couldn’t try it out, back then you looked at the back of the box and speculated what it might be or took what you saw as the truth. By the way Jupiter Strike was more like After Burner but the pictures on the back looked entirely different.

I can’t remember what PD pitched the game as but I clearly remember GT6 and them going on about how you would be able to upload your own GPS data in to make a track. I never saw that in the game. I’ve been told it did finally make it into the game but I was long gone and felt duped by them.

I think it’s important for them to be 100% clear. I get building hype but now imagine everytime they release an update of cars, as silhouettes only, and you have a limited time frame to buy it to get one extra car. People will speculate all day long what those cars might be. If people didn’t figure it out for us I’d have no clue what cars are hidden in the shadows of their twitter/X update posts “new update coming”. I could only speculate.


**** I just watched some original official trailers for GT7 and noticed two things that jogged my memory. One said “FOR NEXT GEN” which implies PS5 only. The other was some dead leaves blowing across the track which implies Autumn Ring track and/or leaf debris blowing up when cars rip past. Unless it’s still coming after 3.5 years I’d say those two things were misleading, I don’t feel like watching more trailers and reading press to find more examples. Not to mention people in here speculate, you might read it and later in the week or month your brain accepts what some random person said in GT Planet as gospel.

Another thing, I noticed watching the trailers, and I know there was a thread about this somewhere, but the graphics look way better back then. I remember driving around the tracks thinking WHOAAAA! And then we had some update and, it was subtle, but it’s like the graphic quality looked like it got dumbed down a little. Probably because the PS4 could handle the “FOR NEXT GEN” game. Anyway, it’s all speculation ;)
 
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Practicing helps when all you have is car setup.
As I said first time around:
That's qualifying, not practice:

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Practice is just practice. It doesn't set the grid, which is what qualifying is for.

Practice can be useful for making sure you don't have a stupid setup before you commit, but otherwise...
Huh? In the Closed Captions he says games. Does he mean game? He says races. Does he mean race?
Japanese doesn't really use plural nouns, but employs an element known as a counter. There's a bunch of different counters that apply to different types of thing.

As a rough example, in English you would say one pen, two pens. In Japanese it would be ippon pen, nihon pen* - meaning one cylindrical object† that is pen, two cylindrical object† that is pen (pon/bon/hon being the counter for cylindrical objects†). One CD, two CDs would be ichimai CD, nimai CD - one broad flat thing (mai) that is CD, two broad flat thing that is CD. And so on.

I'd need to listen to the original and remember what the counter for races is (tracks would be pon/bon/hon; no idea what race events would be and even if I did learn it once it was almost 30 years ago), but you'd be listening out for "nan" before the counter to mean "some", rather than "ichi" (possibly modified to "i" depending on the counter: ichi+pon = ippon, like the pen example) to mean "a".



*Although that's more emphasising the quantity. Used in a sentence where you're referring to the pens it'd be "pen (o) nihon"
†It's actually "long, thin objects", but pens are the archetype. Also I have a core memory of my very lovely Japanese teacher trying to say the word "cylindrical" when we were doing counters, which was technically my fault; sorry Keiko.
 
DLC will be a day one purchase for me. As someone who hates multiplayer, I welcome the opportunity to improve against faster AI.

It's not going to be expensive, so I don't get the preemptive hyperventilating about pricing or the entitlement it should be free. None of the people complaining would dare work for free for a living, so cut PD some slack.

They've found a way to unshackle themselves from last-gen hardware. That's a plus for GT7 going forward.
 
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