Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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I played GTSport at Tokyo Auto Salon. translate Japanese into English.
I play PS4 Pro with Game Pad.

-Graphics
PS4Pro graphics are very good.
Especially the expression of light was nice.

-track
Tracks that can be played so far have been prepared.
5 tracks 8 layout. It has 5 different times and weather.

The Nürburgring is prototype and the graphics are terrible.
The staff asked me "Please do not play the Nürburgring".
It will be better in the future.

-car
It was largely classified into five.
Gr.N, Gr.4, Gr.3, Gr.1, Gr.B. There is no Gr.2.
Gr.N is further classified by NX00.
N100 - Toyota S-FR / Mazda Roadster (ND)
N200 - Toyota 86GT / Peugeot 208 GTi / Volkswagen Golf GTI / Alfa Romeo 4C
N300 - Ford Focus ST / Lotus Evora / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution / Subaru WRX STI / Audi TTS
N400 - Mercedes A45 AMG / Ford Mustang GT / Aston Martin V8 Vantage / BMW M4 Coupe / BMW M4 SAFETY CAR / Toyota S-FR Racing Concept
N500 - Lexus RC F / Chevrolet CAMARO SS / Chevrolet Corvette (C7) / Jaguar F-Type R / Mercedes AMG GT S / Mercedes AMG GT SAFETY CAR
N600 - Honda NSX / Nissan GT-R '17
N700 - Dodge Charger SRT / McLaren 650S
N800 - Aston Martin One-77

-etc
I used a roadster. The track is in Tokyo. Assist is ABS 1, everything else is off.
I played for the first time, but soon I got used to it. They worked naturally.
I think AI is clever. If we do not move ''game style''.
The sound was not heard loudly in the surroundings.
 
Marron
N100 - Toyota S-FR / Mazda Roadster (ND)
N200 - Toyota 86GT / Peugeot 208 GTi / Volkswagen Golf GTI / Alfa Romeo 4C
N300 - Ford Focus ST / Lotus Evora / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution / Subaru WRX STI / Audi TTS
N400 - Mercedes A45 AMG / Ford Mustang GT / Aston Martin V8 Vantage / BMW M4 Coupe / BMW M4 SAFETY CAR / Toyota S-FR Racing Concept
N500 - Lexus RC F / Chevrolet CAMARO SS / Chevrolet Corvette (C7) / Jaguar F-Type R / Mercedes AMG GT S / Mercedes AMG GT SAFETY CAR
N600 - Honda NSX / Nissan GT-R '17
N700 - Dodge Charger SRT / McLaren 650S
N800 - Aston Martin One-77
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Thanks for those.
 
Marron
I played GTSport at Tokyo Auto Salon. translate Japanese into English.
I play PS4 Pro with Game Pad.

-Graphics
PS4Pro graphics are very good.
Especially the expression of light was nice.

-track
Tracks that can be played so far have been prepared.
5 tracks 8 layout. It has 5 different times and weather.

The Nürburgring is prototype and the graphics are terrible.
The staff asked me "Please do not play the Nürburgring".
It will be better in the future.

-car
It was largely classified into five.
Gr.N, Gr.4, Gr.3, Gr.1, Gr.B. There is no Gr.2.
Gr.N is further classified by NX00.
N100 - Toyota S-FR / Mazda Roadster (ND)
N200 - Toyota 86GT / Peugeot 208 GTi / Volkswagen Golf GTI / Alfa Romeo 4C
N300 - Ford Focus ST / Lotus Evora / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution / Subaru WRX STI / Audi TTS
N400 - Mercedes A45 AMG / Ford Mustang GT / Aston Martin V8 Vantage / BMW M4 Coupe / BMW M4 SAFETY CAR / Toyota S-FR Racing Concept
N500 - Lexus RC F / Chevrolet CAMARO SS / Chevrolet Corvette (C7) / Jaguar F-Type R / Mercedes AMG GT S / Mercedes AMG GT SAFETY CAR
N600 - Honda NSX / Nissan GT-R '17
N700 - Dodge Charger SRT / McLaren 650S
N800 - Aston Martin One-77

-etc
I used a roadster. The track is in Tokyo. Assist is ABS 1, everything else is off.
I played for the first time, but soon I got used to it. They worked naturally.
I think AI is clever. If we do not move ''game style''.
The sound was not heard loudly in the surroundings.
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Ok, so it seems as though the cars are grouped up based upon their power.

Though, it's strange to see the Hellcat and the 650S in the same subclass, considering that the McLaren would beat the crap out of the Hellcat in pretty much ever situation.

And where would the LaFerrari go? N900?
 
TS050
Ok, so it seems as though the cars are grouped up based upon their power.

Though, it's strange to see the Hellcat and the 650S in the same subclass, considering that the McLaren would beat the crap out of the Hellcat in pretty much ever situation.

And where would the LaFerrari go? N900?
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It would take a heck of a lot of code fudging to make the Hellcat competitive with the 650S on a circuit. One wonders if this will only be done in certain modes and outside of those modes the car will retain their legit handling characteristics, or if they'll be permanently fudged.
 
Marron
I play PS4 Pro with Game Pad.

The Nürburgring is prototype and the graphics are terrible.
The staff asked me "Please do not play the Nürburgring".
It will be better in the future.
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It might be the build for the Pro is not finished yet or if not maybe they added new features that still not working properly in this build (night time, livery editor, additional tracks or cars etc) and later found out that is causing the game being unstable in some or certain part of the game (in this case Nürburgring) and need to be fixed.

Also need some clarification whether is the problem happen for the Pro only or the whole console at the event.
 
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Marron
Gr.N, Gr.4, Gr.3, Gr.1, Gr.B. There is no Gr.2.
Gr.N is further classified by NX00.
N100 - Toyota S-FR / Mazda Roadster (ND)
N200 - Toyota 86GT / Peugeot 208 GTi / Volkswagen Golf GTI / Alfa Romeo 4C
N300 - Ford Focus ST / Lotus Evora / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution / Subaru WRX STI / Audi TTS
N400 - Mercedes A45 AMG / Ford Mustang GT / Aston Martin V8 Vantage / BMW M4 Coupe / BMW M4 SAFETY CAR / Toyota S-FR Racing Concept
N500 - Lexus RC F / Chevrolet CAMARO SS / Chevrolet Corvette (C7) / Jaguar F-Type R / Mercedes AMG GT S / Mercedes AMG GT SAFETY CAR
N600 - Honda NSX / Nissan GT-R '17
N700 - Dodge Charger SRT / McLaren 650S
N800 - Aston Martin One-77
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I'm curious as to how they make these classifications. First few are understandable, but it just gets more odd the higher up you go. Also got three sorta bare ones.
 
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RACECAR
I'm curious as to how they make these classifications. First few are understandable, but it just gets more odd the higher up you go. Also got three sorta bare ones.
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...My thinking is that this whole N group classification is related to power levels.

I mean, if one looks at the pure BHP levels of the cars, it makes some sort of sense.

Aston One-77 makes, what, 770bhp? So, an N800, then.
Dodge SRT, which I'm guessing it could be Hellcat, 707, so N700.
Nissan GT-R, 560? So, N600.

And so on.
 
JKgo
...My thinking is that this whole N group classification is related to power levels.

I mean, if one looks at the pure BHP levels of the cars, it makes some sort of sense.

Aston One-77 makes, what, 770bhp? So, an N800, then.
Dodge SRT, which I'm guessing it could be Hellcat, 707, so N700.
Nissan GT-R, 560? So, N600.

And so on.
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Yeah I think that is plainly obvious, but just because the HP of cars are similar doesn't mean their overall performance is. So are the better handling cars going to be gimped to race with the other ones?
 
Samus
Yeah I think that is plainly obvious, but just because the HP of cars are similar doesn't mean their overall performance is. So are the better handling cars going to be gimped to race with the other ones?
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Strangely, PD have clearly proven that they understand this concept, so what gives.
 
Samus
Yeah I think that is plainly obvious, but just because the HP of cars are similar doesn't mean their overall performance is. So are the better handling cars going to be gimped to race with the other ones?
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It looks like extreme situations are already bumped to a higher class: I doubt the S-FR racing concept actually has anything over 300 bhp. But yeah, any super-lightweights like an Elise in N200 would just destroy any semblance of balance. Or realism, if it's artificially limited.

The 650S and Hellcat are already a weird enough pairing.
 
Samus
Yeah I think that is plainly obvious, but just because the HP of cars are similar doesn't mean their overall performance is. So are the better handling cars going to be gimped to race with the other ones?
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...That's my fear as well. Just looking at Alfa 4C paired with the likes of Toyota 86 and Peugeot hot hatch makes me cringe, and never mind the Dodge/McLaren combo.

If I may be so bold, I could posit that this whole debacle is down to the paltry number of cars in the game itself - or, more correctly, a certain lack of focus on the kind of cars to be included in the game. My opinion, of course.
 
If they have gimped the cars to make it work then it will make a mockery of the whole thing. They might have well just produced 150 fantasy cars for us to drive. Surely the thrill of a racing game, that claims to be a sim, is driving some of the greatest cars in the world in a virtual environment?
 
It's that 7-77 thing. Maybe the driver seedings will work out. Pro drivers for sure, won't be picking the Hellcat to race a 650S.

However, this is similar to GT1 with the EG Civic, racing the Corvette GS.

Then the S-FR Racing is in there. No words from PD. Who knows?

EDIT: The Evora should be vs the 4C.
No Camaro vs Mustang, M4 vs RC-F. No Aston vs Vette. That might all have to take place in Gr.4 & Gr.3.
 
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My guess is there will be normal versions of all of these cars with their respective power and weight, and an Nx00 version with BoP power and weight, just like the courtesy cars in GT6 Quick Match events.

What this means is, each car could potentially have up to 3 dupes (normal, N and Gr versions) :crazy: Which doesn't bode well for the already tiny car count. Might also explain the weird pairings in each class. Not good.

More and more I'm thinking PD is wasting their time completely with GTS and eSports. I can't see this having the longetivity of past GT games except for those who are into competitive online racing. Me personally I can already see spending more time in Scapes than on the track.

If I'm Kaz I would take a good long look at what happened between 1997-2017...
 
TS050
And where would the LaFerrari go? N900?
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Sorry, I could not confirm LaFerrari from Gr.N List.
karelpipa
How can be Nurb so bad now. Didnt they upgraded it for Copper box?
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I checked PS4Pro version of the Nürburgring prototype, the trees near the track were a bit far away. And it was a picture.
I think it is difficult because the Nürburgring is longer than other tracks.
jm79
No offence to @Marron of course, but how legit is this list?
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I was recording videos on my smartphone.
 
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