More Screenshots, Videos of GT5′s New Damage Modeling
The new Gran Turismo 5 damage system first spotted by GTPlanet users in the Best Buy demo continues to make waves throughout our community, as more pictures (and now videos) keep coming in. Here’s the latest batch of higher-quality photos from Asane and tyv2448, along with a YouTube clip courtesy of StedySniper (thanks to Volcao for the tip!). Asane also provided me with a few more details on his observations so far:
From playing the demo I noticed the only car I could really kill was the Ferrari 458 and to an extent the NASCAR car and the AMG. The other cars in demo were impossible to really beat up only having dents and scratches. I think it’s either damage is only turned on in some cars or PD has made some deals with a few manufacturers to have that kind of crazy damage. For example, the 458 is murdered in these screenshots, but the Ferrari Enzo was very hard to kill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7bHsOTvKc
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September 6th, 2010 at 3:23 pm - #infamousDee
I’m sorry, but even the worst processor can simulate high-end driving physics. My crappy laptop, powered by a single-core, 2.2GHz processor can run Live For Speed, one of your beloved PC sims, with ease, and the PS3 boasts a 3.2GHz Cell. Sim TV reviewed GT5′s driving physics as recreating 95% the feel of iRacing, not to mention the fact that the game also excels in the area of low-speed physics, something PC sims could definitely improve upon.
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September 6th, 2010 at 5:20 pm - #…hmmm
LiveForSpeed’s driving physics ain’t even near of ‘high-end’ …it’s even more older than PS3, and it’s physics-engine is developed to be played in bulk PC’s then.
I something like year ago tried LFS for few days. It felt very lame… so did GTR2 and rFactor too. Try your laptop with iRacing and lowest graphics. You cant reach even 30fps alone because it’s tyre-model and physics-engine needs so much CPU power.
I am not GT-hater, but I just some months ago did read article about physics-engines in simulations, and how many calculations per seconds there was needed to be, to create good simulation. My PS3 is 4 years old now… and even todays high-end CPU’s cant run iRacing with maxed graphics, so how could that paper-weight do that with even better graphics?I played week ago again GT5P with my friends after year of iRacing… you just better believe there is huge difference with how you can feel physics-engine, weight-transfer, all small details on the track, ForceFeedback in G25, you name it. I was so sad when I realized how sterile and dead GT5P felt after I was forgotten it. I cant believe that I have waisted so many years with GT’s cause I was afraid of ‘complex PC-environment’!
If you like playing racing-games… GT5 is good choice. If you keep Sim-Racing as a real hobby… just buy second-hand Gaming-PC and you will never regret!
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September 6th, 2010 at 8:03 pm - #shazui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP2UKygdYeM&feature=related
terrible reviews, horrible clipping, lesser selection of cars, poor damage modelling, ridiculous costs,(both to play and to build the pc required to play it) no day/night cycle, no weather cycle, less tracks, less popular, worse community aspect, no B-spec mode.Also the ps3′s cell processor, which is a “paperweight” to you, outperforms even an i7-980x in certain calculations and can your cpu perform graphics related tasks?. The XDR ram runs at 3.2ghz… faster than what you have in your computer…
The only thing outdated is your view of PC gaming. As a PC gamer you’re missing out on all the best games and getting stuck with the crappier multiplatform games. You have no GOTYs to play on your PC whereas uncharted 2, LBP, MGS4 are all available to play on the ps3. There’s a reason it’s the least popular platform for gaming -
September 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm - #George
This conversation is so stupid. 99% of racing sims on pc run only on Windows. Windows needs a dual core machine with 2 gigs ram, just to run, so from ur stupid pc do the math and kill half of ur first two cpus, and 2 gigs of ram, from what remains, never be so stupid to say that they r used 100%. Most software doesn’t make use of the third and forth core. So minus the other 2 cores. If games used 100% of pc power, the noise from the fans would kill ur ears and ur pc would close in 5 minutes so it doesn’t overheat. Console programming is taylored to the console, thus more effective. remember ps2 has only 32 mb RAM and remember with which (in the past) high end pcs and games could compare. But i like that u r here and u post cause u will eventually drive ur fathers car, and then try to recreate this experience, only GT has many many cars, so yours might be in, and GT always was a better simulation.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:34 pm - #infamousDee
When are we going to receive a video portraying an actual crash? That video was no better than a simple screenshot.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:23 pm - #Geo_212
In all of the 458′s, both headlights seem to be fixed with an invisible pole… one of the lights always seems to be in the air :P
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:15 pm - #infamousDee
I’m absolutely staggered that this site has been allowed to be taken over by a wave of pre-pubescent haters, fair weather fanboys and hypocrites. This damage system looks utterly stunning – I can’t think of any game to date that features deformation comparable to this – yet the idiots in this community have taken to making moronic complaints regarding it looking “weird,” or some other vague, nitpicking bullsh** along those lines. It’s pathetic.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:28 pm - #Tenacious D
It does look a little strange because the headlights aren’t broke and the windows shattered, and loose parts aren’t scattered all over the place. Codemasters does have fantastic damage in their Grid and Dirt games. Of course, that’s about all you can say about them…
But I agree, the deformation is at a level that no other game has reached yet. If the damage carried to the point that glass broke and parts were strung all over, I’m sure everyone’s draws would drag the floor. Well, except for the Microsoft virals…
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:16 pm - #Red_9
Actually, GRiD has a very nice damage model that reacts very nicely to where you crash, much better than most racing games. That being said, the amount of details they put into cars, and the general graphics quality of GRiD is far less than GT5, not to mention GRiD isn’t really a simulator and has much less cars.
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:35 pm - #zevehcj
Exactly.The main reason why I barely check the news page anymore. The comment sections are always filled with trolls. First, the damage wasn’t good enough for them and now that the damage looks absolutely amazing, it still looks bad to them. My impressions? I’ve never seen this kind of deformation in any game before. Kaz promised real time deformation and he delivered. I’m actually shocked by how unrecognizable those cars look.
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September 6th, 2010 at 3:50 pm - #Vulcao
Finally some serious guys. There are more trolls than fans here. It looks like Forza fanboys have opened a thread on their forum with the title “Go troll at GTPlanet now” :)
However, there are some real GT fans – only a few ones, though – who still don’t like damage. I don’t understand them. I don’t know what kind of realism they expect from a game (O.o). Maybe they don’t remember it’s a demo and of course PD will implement (if not already) damage on the windshield and stuff.
I think this damage is just incredible. Way more than I was expecting.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:03 pm - #riph
PD dun listen all this…
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September 6th, 2010 at 11:53 am - #Red_9
Wow the hypocricy running rampant here is dumbfounding. You cry for damage and you get it, but then its not good enough. They try to improve it, and then you say it’s not good and say that the previous build was better. Now you’re saying “GT5 is a bad game because the damage sucks!” Keep in mind you’ve been enjoying GT since the PS1 without damage, so why including it makes it a bad game just screams “I’m OCD and wanna trooooll”.
You should all consider yourselves damn lucky you’re getting a console driving sim of this caliber.
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September 6th, 2010 at 11:46 am - #Brett
I think it’s weird that they windshield isn’t cracked or hurt in the slightest bit. If you are going to put that much damage in a car, you’d think the windshield would be destroyed or at least have a spiderweb crack pattern
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September 6th, 2010 at 8:42 am - #Latetzki
That looks weird…
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September 6th, 2010 at 7:40 am - #Sicko
Looks like they have been melted or something! This demo is truly awful! 5 years for this crap! I hope the full games is MUCH better! I love the Gran Turismo series but this wait has been too long and it has been a major own goal for Sony, Polyphony and Kazu. It’s turned from a fun, realistic game series to a game for obsessed anoraks and nerds that try to justify the wait with evermore bizarre reasons. Sorry Kazu, you took the fun out of Gran Turismo. Look at this whole site! Blinkered fan boys orgasming over tippets of news. The game has changed from a healthy hobby to an unhealthy obsession. A non-nonsense, no-BS approach is needed a la Forza; not this long-winded, drawn out affair. Kazu, sort out the damage and don’t make us wait until kingdom come for GT6. Sayonara!
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:02 pm - #infamousDee
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Forza was nothing but a rushed train wreck.
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September 6th, 2010 at 12:09 pm - #Tenacious D
Bye. Oh, and be sure to cut n paste this post a few more times on the way out to be really really sure we’ll see it. Again.
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:31 pm - #Geo_212
Yep, obviously you hate a game that isn’t even out yet… Makes perfect sense. Well, if you hate it so much, go play your little Xbox 360 and keep dreaming that Forza 3 is better than GT5- oh, and it’s not even out yet. Go be stupid and hateful somewhere else, you obviously don’t belong here.
Did I mention GT5 isn’t even out yet?
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September 6th, 2010 at 7:38 am - #JamDodger
I think the damage is great, it’s a step in right direction!
The only thing i’m curious about, has there been any damage to the window screen or any windows on any cars? I mean surely there must be a chip or a scratch or something?
Just curious lol
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September 6th, 2010 at 7:29 am - #Paulo
I honestly hate seeing these cars in this condition. In some ways its good, in some its a bit weird, but its a hell of a lot better than most. I’m glad I like driving cars more than crashing them to death.
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September 6th, 2010 at 6:27 am - #HRP
There are so many haters down here it’s scary, i mean like 1 or 2 people !! Wow ! How dare they criticize the great Kaz and the perfect game . :facepalm:
No for sure the wave of gt blind fanboys ( some of them just Sony fanboys and never played a racing game seriously ) is way better than 1 or 2 trolls .
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September 6th, 2010 at 5:00 am - #G-Ram
Anyone else find the name of the videographer to be very unfitting?
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September 6th, 2010 at 4:46 am - #gtone339
Damage seems Crap to me anyway. Looks too generic :p
I don’t think thats the final stage of it really.
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September 6th, 2010 at 3:56 am - #Gt3luke
I think PD shows different kind of damages during the gameshows. KY is an perfectionist. So he probably wouldn’t make a damage model what makes him “anger” when GT5 is released. We will see it on the 3th of November.
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:35 am - #@ndr3w
TBH I have been waiting years for this game and if you where to ask me to make a wish list for GT5 it would be somthing like this
1 – Driving Dynamics
2 – Cars
3 – Tracks
4 – Mechnical Damage
5 – Overall graphics
6 – Decent online interface
7 – Customisation
8 – Damage grahics
9 – Cockpit View (I use bumper cam)As you can see, damage graphics is not my priority but im sure for some of you it is. Would be interested to see what list of order you guys have. Im sure PD done some market research and built the game based on whats important about the GT game for the end user.
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September 6th, 2010 at 3:28 pm - #Vulcao
GTP could make a poll about it and let only inside members vote.
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:16 am - #Si-Fly
Reminds me of iPhone face warping apps, not too impressed to be honest! I’m a good driver though so I won’t be seeing much damage lol!
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September 6th, 2010 at 2:14 am - #smoky427
I don’t like the damage I hope there’s sitting to damage off!
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September 6th, 2010 at 1:24 am - #T-MORE-09
Whoa… intense, glad I’LL try to avoid getting hit and hitting the walls yo
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September 6th, 2010 at 1:22 am - #GlobeKIDD
Troll gets no food. Troll shall leave. Troll come play forza with me for a bit?
Irony… Love it.
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Pathetic damage modelling. Plastic bumbers should go to pieces and fall off on the track… not change their shape and still hang there. Only metal body-parts does that.
…and for those who really think GT5′s physics-modelling will be spot on, or even compareable to some PC-racing sims… WAKE UP! It’s just impossible. PS3′s CPU is very very old today, and cause GT5 is eating lots of resources from it because all this candy-stuff, it is just impossible to have decent physics also. You wanted to have great graphics… so you got it… but you cant have both cause PS3′s components are just out of date. Why do you think PS3′s are so cheap in these days? Cause they are build from CPU’s and GPU’s which are almost free today and, not high end. Sorry.
Thats why PC’s are so great. You can always update it to be high-end by hundred or two every few years, or you can just buy some nerds high-end machine from yesterday with small bucks… plus you will learn lot about computers if you just believe yourself and consentrate to find articles and such from net, and build/update your PC by yourself.
I was GT-fanboy… then Kaz opened my eyes. No way back to consoles anymore. It’s just old-salt which always drag me back to see news, and some great guys who still are active in here. Luckily most of GT-Aliens are already growed up and climbed up to real racing-sims.