◆ SNAIL [Spec] Racing - Currently Recruiting for GT7 - JOIN TODAY!!Open 

  • Thread starter zer05ive
  • 147,840 comments
  • 7,985,362 views
I'm saying keep this thread...just link something to the site saying ""Visit or join our community here" or something vague like that ;)

Just think of the possibilities with a dedicated forum.

In the Sunday League Racing section you could start a new thread saying "Combo choice discussion for the week of Feb 21...". In here everyone could give and take ideas without cluttering the forum with more pages of crap. Every racing issue could have it's own thread. Penalties, results, rules issues or discussions about new rules etc.

In the "Pit Stop" all the Hockey stuff, posts about our personal vehicle histories etc.

In the Open Road, we could discuss real cars, what we want to buy, give ideas to others who want a new car, auto-x car, track car etc.

Possibilities are endless and the organization would be an order of magnitude better than now. We are large enough to warrant a forum like this.

Just think how many different topics are discussed here on a single thread in a single day? How much crap and pages do you need to sift through to find something useful to you if you are gone for just ONE day?

Anyways...good talk guys...in a day this will be 15 pages back and long forgotten ;)
 
Looking through the posts recently, people have been posting pictures of the combo's... So I thought I'd see if I can get some nice shots. I don't know what you guys use them for, (I assume the banners) but if you like them, by all means use them.

Thanks!
 

Attachments

  • Nürburgring GP_F.jpg
    Nürburgring GP_F.jpg
    85.7 KB · Views: 5
  • Fuji Speedway GT.jpg
    Fuji Speedway GT.jpg
    201.3 KB · Views: 6
  • Silverstone International Circuit.jpg
    Silverstone International Circuit.jpg
    175.3 KB · Views: 5
I'm saying keep this thread...just link something to the site saying ""Visit or join our community here" or something vague like that ;)

Just think of the possibilities with a dedicated forum.

In the Sunday League Racing section you could start a new thread saying "Combo choice discussion for the week of Feb 21...". In here everyone could give and take ideas without cluttering the forum with more pages of crap. Every racing issue could have it's own thread. Penalties, results, rules issues or discussions about new rules etc.

In the "Pit Stop" all the Hockey stuff, posts about our personal vehicle histories etc.

In the Open Road, we could discuss real cars, what we want to buy, give ideas to others who want a new car, auto-x car, track car etc.

Possibilities are endless and the organization would be an order of magnitude better than now. We are large enough to warrant a forum like this.

Just think how many different topics are discussed here on a single thread in a single day? How much crap and pages do you need to sift through to find something useful to you if you are gone for just ONE day?

Anyways...good talk guys...in a day this will be 15 pages back and long forgotten ;)
But the day is still young, so I'll continue the talk. 👍
Its funny this kinda came up.
I am against removing our presence here, as it seems you and most are. :gtpflag:We owe a lot of our success, dare I say, most of it. (don't want to take anything away from everyone behind the scenes though, especially the stewards:cheers:.) This league on its own could not get the ample, and free, publicity and presence that it has received without this site. Further, I think it a dis-justice to GTP to pull our presence from the forum. I feel there is a strong, unspoken kinship and partnership of sorts between the league at GTP.

However. If we are going to grow beyond Gran Turismo, which I feel is not only feasible, but probably far easier then meets the eye, we need to have our own site. We need a central rug if you will, to really tie the room together. A place where we can meet as an organization as a whole and consider matters as such. And also a place to do everything that JoeW and others have mentioned. I wouldn't mind seeing even a real life SNAIL team. I bet there are enough of us in MI to form a rout at an SCCA autox.

If however the intent is to keep SNAIL based in GT, then I digress, and postulate that there is no need for more than this thread, and the ones we make for the regularly scheduled events.

Now the funny thing, my brother in-law and I were discussing building a server. We have a god awful amount of computers in our household. Plenty with some powerful bits. When we build it, I can offer up some space for testing\trial runs of the website. It of course would only be a temporary solution, as I wouldn't have the hdd space to keep up with this thread alone, much less a whole forum dedicated to this chatty lot. And of course the website would have to go down any time I wanted to race. But it could be used as a test bed to iron out any issues/bugs before going into production.
 
But the day is still young, so I'll continue the talk. 👍
Its funny this kinda came up.
I am against removing our presence here, as it seems you and most are. :gtpflag:We owe a lot of our success, dare I say, most of it. (don't want to take anything away from everyone behind the scenes though, especially the stewards:cheers:.) This league on its own could not get the ample, and free, publicity and presence that it has received without this site. Further, I think it a dis-justice to GTP to pull our presence from the forum. I feel there is a strong, unspoken kinship and partnership of sorts between the league at GTP.

However. If we are going to grow beyond Gran Turismo, which I feel is not only feasible, but probably far easier then meets the eye, we need to have our own site. We need a central rug if you will, to really tie the room together. A place where we can meet as an organization as a whole and consider matters as such. And also a place to do everything that JoeW and others have mentioned. I wouldn't mind seeing even a real life SNAIL team. I bet there are enough of us in MI to form a rout at an SCCA autox.

If however the intent is to keep SNAIL based in GT, then I digress, and postulate that there is no need for more than this thread, and the ones we make for the regularly scheduled events.

Now the funny thing, my brother in-law and I were discussing building a server. We have a god awful amount of computers in our household. Plenty with some powerful bits. When we build it, I can offer up some space for testing\trial runs of the website. It of course would only be a temporary solution, as I wouldn't have the hdd space to keep up with this thread alone, much less a whole forum dedicated to this chatty lot. And of course the website would have to go down any time I wanted to race. But it could be used as a test bed to iron out any issues/bugs before going into production.
All we need is a GTP admin to approve and build a SNAIL sub-forum within the Clubs & Leagues sub-forum. Then appoint a couple mods to take care of stickies/locked threads and moving posts or whatever. That way, SNAIL stays active on GTP, and we have fine control of organizing information and discussions. I would even say that it would help to grow SNAIL (assuming that is the goal) by giving new members a less intimidating megathread and making the important information and discussions more quickly accessible.
 
But the day is still young, so I'll continue the talk. 👍
Its funny this kinda came up.
I am against removing our presence here, as it seems you and most are. :gtpflag:We owe a lot of our success, dare I say, most of it. (don't want to take anything away from everyone behind the scenes though, especially the stewards:cheers:.) This league on its own could not get the ample, and free, publicity and presence that it has received without this site. Further, I think it a dis-justice to GTP to pull our presence from the forum. I feel there is a strong, unspoken kinship and partnership of sorts between the league at GTP.

However. If we are going to grow beyond Gran Turismo, which I feel is not only feasible, but probably far easier then meets the eye, we need to have our own site. We need a central rug if you will, to really tie the room together. A place where we can meet as an organization as a whole and consider matters as such. And also a place to do everything that JoeW and others have mentioned. I wouldn't mind seeing even a real life SNAIL team. I bet there are enough of us in MI to form a rout at an SCCA autox.

If however the intent is to keep SNAIL based in GT, then I digress, and postulate that there is no need for more than this thread, and the ones we make for the regularly scheduled events.

Now the funny thing, my brother in-law and I were discussing building a server. We have a god awful amount of computers in our household. Plenty with some powerful bits. When we build it, I can offer up some space for testing\trial runs of the website. It of course would only be a temporary solution, as I wouldn't have the hdd space to keep up with this thread alone, much less a whole forum dedicated to this chatty lot. And of course the website would have to go down any time I wanted to race. But it could be used as a test bed to iron out any issues/bugs before going into production.
Once we have our own forum with its own sub forums, we will quickly be able to learn more about each other in the Pit Stop area and Open Road areas. We will discuss real issues important to us outside of GT. Back in the days of GT1 on the old forum, we organized GT Parties. We had several, what we labeled SEGTP, south east GT parties. We would gather at someone's home (one guy here in Tampa, his father owned a sports bar, and we met there one Sunday and had a bunch of the big screens playing GT) and play GT and shoot the *****. People would drive for hours...granted the community was smaller because there was no online play, but we were very tight. I drove to Ft launderdale for a party and Atlanta once. The northeast guys had the NEGTP and the west coasters had the WCGTP.

So this could get really awesome and we could meet up more often....but not in the confines of this thread.

Now if we had threads organizing GT Parties like the old days...oh man...awesomeness.
 
February 23, 2014 lineup
banners by @Troggy


ROUND ONE
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car '01

(???HP / PP ???) (Racing Hard tires)
at Silverstone International (? laps)


photo by ???


ROUND TWO
Lotus Elise Race Car '96
(182HP / PP 504) (Racing Hard tires)
at Fuji Speedway GT (6 laps)


photo by ???

ROUND THREE
Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 Touring Car

(520HP / PP 568) (Racing Hard tires)
at Nürburgring GP/F (? laps)


photo by ???


****************************************​


February 16, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Alpine A110 1600S '73

at Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit (Bathurst)
ROUND TWO
Lotus Elise Race Car '96
at Fuji Speedway GT
ROUND THREE
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car
at Silverstone International



February 9, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71
at Autodromo Nazionale Monza
ROUND TWO
Lotus Elise Race Car '96
at Cote D'Azur
ROUND THREE
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car
at Silverstone International



February 2nd league night cancelled due to Super Bowl XLVIII


:gtpflag: Congrats to the January 2014 champions!!

January 26, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71
at Autodromo Nazionale Monza
ROUND TWO
Light Car Company Rocket
at Brands Hatch Grand Prix
ROUND THREE
Caterham Fireblade

at Cote D'Azur



January 19, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13
at Autodromo Nazionale Monza
ROUND TWO
AEM S2000
at Suzuka Circuit
ROUND THREE
[2']Light Car Company Rocket

at Brands Hatch Grand Prix



January 12, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Amuse Nismo 380 RS Superlegara
at Suzuka Circuit
ROUND TWO
Nissan GT-R Black Edition '12
at Deep Forest Raceway / Reverse
ROUND THREE
Light Car Company Rocket
at Brands Hatch Grand Prix




January 5, 2014 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Subaru S206 NBR Challenge Package '12
at Deep Forest Raceway / Reverse

ROUND TWO
Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
at Apricot Hill

ROUND THREE
Amuse Nismo 380 RS Superlegara
at Suzuka Circuit



:gtpflag: Congrats to the December 2013 champions!!


December 29, 2013 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) '08
at Silverstone International Circuit
ROUND TWO
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
at Suzuka Circuit
ROUND THREE
Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
at Apricot Hill



December 22, 2013 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Subaru BRZ S '12
at Silverstone International Circuit

ROUND TWO
Amuse S2000 Street Version '04
at mt panorama (Bathurst)

ROUND THREE
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
at Suzuka Circuit



December 15, 2013 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Honda Gathers Drider CIVIC Race Car '98
at Cape Ring Inside
ROUND TWO
Subaru BRZ S '12
at Willow Springs International Raceway - Big Willow

ROUND THREE
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
at Suzuka Circuit



December 8th league night cancelled due to GT6 testing session


December 1, 2013 lineup (click here for results)
ROUND ONE
Honda Gathers Drider CIVIC Race Car '98
at Tsukuba Circuit
ROUND TWO
Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
at Suzuka Circuit
ROUND THREE
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
at Côte d'Azur
I would like to join!!!




Congratulations to Nick McMillen..
From Virtual to Reality..
From S.N.A.I.L. to GT Academy Champion!!

nick-mcmillen-podium-ceremony-win-638x425.jpg

From left to right:
Christopher Hill (Runner-Up), Nick McMillen (Champion), Brian Marsteller (3rd Place)


Congrats to all the SNAILs who advanced to the GT Academy Silverstone finals!
iEdDnsw.jpg

From left to right:
Martin Sprau, Dan Reude, Brian Marsteller, Joey Barbato, Nick McMillen, Doug Hawkins, Christopher Hill


Click the logo below for details on the Allen Berg Racing Schools Challenge!!



Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
Our mission is to provide our members with the cleanest and most competitive racing experience possible with minimal prep time required. No matter what your skill level is, we will provide you with a full grid of similarly-skilled drivers to compete against. It's our belief that close racing is not only exciting, but is also the best way to improve your skill and refine your racecraft! We have our official league night every Sunday night at 9:30pm Eastern / 6:30pm Pacific (we also have a new West Coast time slot starting at 9pm Pacific!!), but we also have a full schedule of events held on every night of the week. If this sounds like something you'd like to be a part of, please keep reading to learn more about our league and how to join us.

What Makes Us Different
There are five things that we offer that you won't find anywhere else. First of all, we provide our members with the most evenly-matched competition possible. In fact, the intense level of competition that we produce has established S.N.A.I.L. as an ideal place to prepare for GT Academy. And if you like to keep track of your improvement, you'll be glad to know that we keep the most comprehensive race data available on GTPlanet. On top of that, if you like to have a say in what cars and tracks you race, we feature an interactive process that allows your voice to be heard. And finally, we're the only league where our members win valuable prizes just for showing up to race! What more could you ask for?!

Evenly-Matched Competition
Have you ever watched a professional race where drivers with completely different skill levels were competing on the same track? Of course not! That wouldn't be fun to watch, let alone fun to participate in. Unfortunately, that disparity of pace is something you'll often find in organized online racing. When this happens, you'll be lucky to just a few drivers that you're truly competitive with. Everyone else will usually either be faster or slower than you. We prevent that from happening in S.N.A.I.L. by dividing our drivers into eight separate divisions based on speed and skill. This results in full grids of evenly-matched competition and creates the closest and most intense sim racing experience around!

Preparation for GT Academy
If you have your eye on competing in GT Academy one day, there is no better place than S.N.A.I.L. to hone your skills to the elite levels necessary to make it to the finals. You need to be the best of the best to make it to Silverstone, and that's exactly what the drivers in our top division are. Half of this year's GT Academy Silverstone Finalists race in S.N.A.I.L. (click here if you want advice directly from one of them). However, even if you don't aspire to win GT Academy someday, it's still great to be able to get tips and advice from many of the best drivers around. Regardless if you're a professional racer or a casual gamer, we can provide you with the perfect environment to learn and get faster!

Win Valuable Prizes
Have you ever wished you could win free stuff just for having fun? If so, then you might want to know that our members win valuable real-world prizes just for racing with us! These prize are based on participation and not on race results. Some examples of prizes our members have won include a GranStand Cockpit, a ButtKicker Gamer2, a GranStand Wheel Stand, and a Wireless ButtKicker Kit. And if you want to help organize our league, you can join TEAM S.N.A.I.L. and earn even more prizes such as shirts (e.g. S.N.A.I.L. shirt, F1 shirt, GT Academy shirt), electronic/gaming hardware (e.g. Hauppauge PVR), sim racing equipment (e.g. Playseat Evolution), and other Gran Turismo related items (e.g. GTPEDIA).

Spec Racing
S.N.A.I.L. was the first GTPlanet league to prohibit tuning in all of our races. This combined with the fact that we race in the same cars produces a type of racing called "spec" racing. Spec racing ensures that success is determined solely by driving skill and not by differences in car power, gearing, suspension, weight, or aerodynamics. Because variables in the car are eliminated, spec racing is the truest measure of driver skill! It also produces intense battles for position because all of the cars are equally strong or weak in the same areas of the track. Another benefit of spec racing is that you'll never spend time tuning cars or wondering if someone is truly faster than you or if they just have a better tune.

Race Format
Our league night lasts for two hours and is split into three rounds. Each round consists of two races that last 10 to 12 minutes on a predetermined car and track combo. At the beginning of each round, a brief qualifying session determines the order of the starting grid. The first race is set to 'Fastest First' to reward the best qualifiers and the second race is set to 'Reverse Grid' in order to promote on-track action. Points are awarded based on our "perfect" points system. After a round is completed, we move on to the next round and repeat the same process with the next car and track combination. Once all three rounds are complete, we tally up the points and then let our interactive format kick in.

Interactive Process
Our unique format allows everyone to have a say on which cars and tracks we race. It is also used to strike a balance between familiarity and variety of cars and tracks. In other words, the progression of cars and tracks that we race is slow enough for us to learn them well, but fast enough that they don't get "old". At the end of league night, everyone votes on which car and track combo they enjoyed the least. The combo that receives the most "elimination votes" is dropped from the lineup entirely. The combo that receives the second most votes is also dropped, but only partially. This is where our prizes play an important role in our interactive format.

Prizes
A prize is awarded to the divisions winners with the three highest scores. The division winner with the highest score gets Prize A. The division winner with the second highest score gets Prize B. The division winner with the third highest score gets Prize C: (NOTE: The three prize winners' votes do not count towards the car/track elimination vote)
Prize A: The right to select the new car and track combo to replace the combo that was voted off
Prize B: The right to replace either the car or the track of the combo that received the second most votes
Prize C: The tie-breaking vote if the elimination vote results in a tie

Promotion and Relegation
Although we split our drivers into separate divisions based on performance and skill level, we realize that our drivers are constantly improving and deserve a chance to climb the ladder of success. That's why we promote and relegate drivers before every season based on the results and data compiled during the previous season. This is also done to ensure that our races are as competitive as possible for all of our league members, top to bottom. Regardless of which division you're in, you will almost always be fighting to gain or defend a position on the track. Simply put, no other Gran Turismo league in the world can offer this much competitive racing to so many different skill levels.

Comprehensive Race Data
It's not always accurate to promote and relegate drivers based on championship points alone. That's why the massive amounts of data we track are invaluable to our league. You'd be hard-pressed to find a sim racing league anywhere in the world that tracks driver data and race results more comprehensively than we do. In fact, our S.N.A.I.L. Results document contains so much information that we have to archive old data to avoid exceeding the GoogleDoc's maximum capacity! You can use this data to track the points championship for each season and compare yourself to other drivers in categories such as fast laps, total race pace, total points, average points per race, and power rankings.

Rules
We expect all drivers to follow our OLR Rules and pursue good racecraft at all times. If you're not sure what good racecraft is, watch this video. It can be summed up in one simple 'Golden Rule' of motorsports: It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver, meaning the car that is attempting to execute the pass, to make sure that the pass is made cleanly and incident free. If you don't agree with this rule or don't think it applies to you, this is not the league for you. If you ever feel like a driver is not following the rules, please wait until league night is over, then file a Racing Incident Report. Our Stewards will review the incident and enforce the appropriate penalty on the driver in question.

Settings
All league settings are default unless noted below:
Boost: Off
Penalty: Weak (and Effective for Free Run) in Divisions 2-8. (Penalties OFF for D1 only)
Race Finish Delay: 90sec
Visible Damage: Off
Mechanical Damage: Light
Slipstream Strength: Real
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Normal
Grip Reduction: Real
Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
Driving Aids: Only ABS allowed in Divisions 1-7. (ABS, TCS, and Driving Line are allowed in Division 8 only)
Tire Restrictions: (based on Dealership PP)
Street Cars
below 450 PP -> Sports Hards
450-499 PP ---> Sports Mediums
500 PP & up --> Sports Softs

Race Cars
below 600 PP -> Racing Hards
600 PP & up --> Racing Mediums

Tuner Cars
Classified as either Street or Race cars based on this list

How To Join Us
Step 1: Post a request to join (do not PM me, just post your request on this thread)
Step 2: Watch the thread for a reply to your post (it will include detailed Time Trial instructions)
Step 3: Purchase the three cars listed in the latest lineup below
Step 4: Get an oil change on each car, but do not do anything else to the car (e.g. add parts or reduce weight)
Step 5: On Sunday night, join the room number of the division you're are assigned to. It will be posted on this thread 15 minutes before the races start.
If you are not sure which division you are assigned to, please check the Offical Driver List
 
Thanks! That's what I'll go with unless and until someone says different.

@zer05ive the rabbit, er golf, goes for 216HP/427PP after erl's been changed.

Got my cars all bought and ready.
 
Hey, just a late reminder, if anybody want a relaxing drive tonight my club is making his first event, don't know how it will end up since its the first time i organise something like that but feel free to join if interested or ask any question, you will find the link in my sign
 
Once we have our own forum with its own sub forums, we will quickly be able to learn more about each other in the Pit Stop area and Open Road areas. We will discuss real issues important to us outside of GT. Back in the days of GT1 on the old forum, we organized GT Parties. We had several, what we labeled SEGTP, south east GT parties. We would gather at someone's home (one guy here in Tampa, his father owned a sports bar, and we met there one Sunday and had a bunch of the big screens playing GT) and play GT and shoot the *****. People would drive for hours...granted the community was smaller because there was no online play, but we were very tight. I drove to Ft launderdale for a party and Atlanta once. The northeast guys had the NEGTP and the west coasters had the WCGTP.

So this could get really awesome and we could meet up more often....but not in the confines of this thread.

Now if we had threads organizing GT Parties like the old days...oh man...awesomeness.
Google Plus offers these sub forums already... And it is free!
 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that since the above website has already been "registered", the powers that be are already thinking long term. At the moment it just links to the first post of this thread but you never know...:)
I just wanna go fast........and if I am slapped with fishes, I will convert the energy into more speed......but some times....right off the track!!! LOL
 
Last edited:
LOL, well i guess at least it good to see more yanks watching hockey :P

im canadian and could not give 2 craps ....

for the record i do got the $$ on usa for the gold, ryan miller with legit nhlers infront of him will be a show!!

Looks like you lose. Now turn in your moose knuckle and syrup jug, and please exit via the St.Lawrence to your right...

GO CANADA! Woooo!

hockeyteam_cover.jpg


Just a reminder of what it looks like...

20140107-114147-g.jpg
 
Last edited:
Mine is 227/434. There's a glitch in the Matrix.
I have the same HP227 - PP434 for the Golf
Interesting. I'd done a chassis refresh and engine rebuild, which is supposed to wash the car and change the oil. Just went and did the straight up oil change and poof. Now I get 227HP/434PP.

Even more interesting. I'd done the same exact thing to the Datsun and it didn't change after the straight up oil change. Still 520/568.
 
Interesting. I'd done a chassis refresh and engine rebuild, which is supposed to wash the car and change the oil. Just went and did the straight up oil change and poof. Now I get 227HP/434PP.

Even more interesting. I'd done the same exact thing to the Datsun and it didn't change after the straight up oil change. Still 520/568.
Always do oil change , no need for engine rebuild till you put miles on a car but that is strange
 
Interesting. I'd done a chassis refresh and engine rebuild, which is supposed to wash the car and change the oil. Just went and did the straight up oil change and poof. Now I get 227HP/434PP.

Even more interesting. I'd done the same exact thing to the Datsun and it didn't change after the straight up oil change. Still 520/568.
Very weird. Add another glitch to the GT6 pile, I guess.
 
Back