2014 NASCAR Thread

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Does anyone know who Bowman hit? I thought it was the 32 but it could have been the 33 or the 36.
 
After his interview, Newman clearly wants the SAFER barrier next year. McDowell looked to be in pretty good spirits as well which says a lot after that wreck.
 
Wow that was a hard wreck.
Müle
… And anotger reason why Nascar should use the boot.
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No. Having driven both configurations the boot would not be good for Nascar. It's even tighter than that section.
 
ukfan758
They could use a temporary barrier that is straight...
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Then they need to move the barrier back in order to get that to work. It's going to cost a lot to re-do the track, ESPECIALLY that section.
 
Moving the barrier back further would require cutting down trees and moving that watch tower along that straight.

A better option would be NASCAR enforcing a rule that the drivers can't use the runoff as the racing surface.
 
GTPorsche
Moving the barrier back further would require cutting down trees and moving that watch tower along that straight.

A better option would be NASCAR enforcing a rule that the drivers can't use the runoff as the racing surface.
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Wasn't the run-off created following the Kendall/McDuffie incidents? (Along with the bus-stop).
 
Blitz24
Wasn't the run-off created following the Kendall/McDuffie incidents? (Along with the bus-stop).
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Bus stop was because of those two incidents. The runoff in that corner has always been there, but it was only within the last 10 years that it was converted from grass to asphalt. The wall was moved further back on the exit of the corner after the Hornish incident years ago.
 
Blitz24
Then they need to move the barrier back in order to get that to work. It's going to cost a lot to re-do the track, ESPECIALLY that section.
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They don't need to do move the barrier back there or reconfiguration, all they need is a TEMPORARY movable barrier like this:
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It could be just a belted tire barrier that is straight similar to what is used on street circuits. When NASCAR leaves, they can remove the barrier with ease to allow the boot to be used.
 
GTPorsche
A better option would be NASCAR enforcing a rule that the drivers can't use the runoff as the racing surface.
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This is the main point of contention, I think. Now that the whole thing is paved they are using the entrance to the boot as if it was The Chute at Sears Point, and there simply is not enough room to do that.
 
I think Watkins Glen has been planning on upgrading a good amount of the facility/track but hasn't had the funding to do so, which is why they've been doing it as needed.
 
GTPorsche
Where did Danica's damage come from? It didn't look like she hit anything just then...
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She ran through debris, which shredded the left front tire. Once the tire shredded, it probably flapped the hood and fenders out, causing the damage you saw.
 
In light of Harvick's recent interview, the SHR #4 crew (or some inside it) is just incompetent, Stewart's later incident doesn't explain the ballast mishap.

Bhowe83
I had to explain to an 8 year old why that man was laying on the ground and not moving...
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people die everyday, it'll teach him life's cruel reality a bit. At least there was no blood. Guaranteed he'll remember the following now, if you hadn't already taught him (along with not watching news broadcasts):

Pupik
You don't play in traffic, you don't approach moving cars; you're told this from the time you are able to walk.
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nascarfan1400
Ward stepping into the racing line is equivalent to running across a busy Highway. It's unsafe. It's silly. It's deadly.
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neljack
can't believe the guys only 20 to lose a life like that.
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do you know how many younger human beings died between the time of your post and my reply? some had absolutely nothing to do to avoid it, unlike Mr Ward.

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How do cautions work in Sprint cars? it seems to me it's like F1 (slowing down, no passing allowed but you'll still have cars go fast) rather than NASCAR (same as F1 but at pace car speed).
Do they have spotters?
 
If I were any of the drivers at least one lap down, I would take a gamble by staying out under caution, then pitting the lap after the restart. By doing that, they'd stay on the lead lap due to Watkins Glen's length. From there, they could play it out the way the crew chiefs decide.
 
The Bman
If I were any of the drivers at least one lap down, I would take a gamble by staying out under caution, then pitting the lap of after the restart. By doing that, they'd stay on the lead lap due to Watkins Glen's length. From there, they could play it out the way the crew chiefs decide.
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That's a pretty good strategy. I'd be having my driver do that if I were a crew chief. 👍
 
The Bman
If I were any of the drivers at least one lap down, I would take a gamble by staying out under caution, then pitting the lap after the restart. By doing that, they'd stay on the lead lap due to Watkins Glen's length. From there, they could play it out the way the crew chiefs decide.
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Lap down cars only get to take the wave around if EVERY lead lap car between them and the pace car pits. If any of them stay out, there is no wave around to take. At that point, you should just pit.
 
MustangRyan
She ran through debris, which shredded the left front tire. Once the tire shredded, it probably flapped the hood and fenders out, causing the damage you saw.
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Nada, she hit the back of Newman's car, and then a driveshaft from McDowell. All that damage was done as soon as the crash happened.
 
Bhowe83
Nada, she hit the back of Newman's car, and then a driveshaft from McDowell. All that damage was done as soon as the crash happened.
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She didn't hit Newman's car. If she had, her car would look like the 95 car. She did hit a driveshaft, but it just bounced off the front bumper.

Edit: start at 4:15. You can even see the smoke coming from the tire in her rear view after she passes by the wreckage.

 
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MustangRyan
Lap down cars only get to take the wave around if EVERY lead lap car between them and the pace car pits. If any of them stay out, there is no wave around to take. At that point, you should just pit.
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If any lead lap cars stay out you'd want to pit. But if they all pit, however, I say do that strategy. Chances are low of that happening but it's something to consider if it comes to that.
 
MustangRyan
She didn't hit Newman's car. If she had, her car would look like the 95 car. She did hit a driveshaft, but it just bounced off the front bumper.

Edit: start at 4:15. You can even see the smoke coming from the tire in her rear view after she passes by the wreckage.
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That first bit of debris she went through did most of the damage. Watch the first camera angle from down in turn 6
 

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