2014 NASCAR Thread

[BKGlover]

Dodge not planning return to NASCAR anytime soon:

It's the question all Dodge stock-car fans want to know: When will the manufacturer return to NASCAR? Not in 2014, that's for sure. While Dodge continues to discuss stock-car racing, according to Ralph Gilles, president and CEO of SRT Brand and Motorsports, Chrysler Group LLC, "the timing isn't right." But Gilles is well aware that stock-car enthusiasts miss the Dodge brand in NASCAR's garages” so never say never. "We haven't forgotten about NASCAR," Gilles told FOX Sports on Friday. "We have a lot of pressure on our capital right now. The Dodge brand has a new chief (Timothy Kuniskis, president and CEO of Dodge Brand), right? He's an enthusiast. He owns a Charger himself, it's his daily drive. He has an older one and a new one. He gets it. He understands. But timing is everything. To get back in the sport is not an insignificant investment. It's something that we've said no to. This year is out of the question, but the future, anything could happen. The fans want us back, so we'll see."

Well F.

 

[GTPorsche]

That's exactly what they said last year....

 

[RACECAR]

I think its best that they stuck with Sportscars for now (Via SRT). Honestly, have they even come close to the winning glory days of the roadrunners and Daytonas of the past?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I think its best that they stuck with Sportscars for now (Via SRT). Honestly, have they even come close to the winning glory days of the roadrunners and Daytonas of the past?

Considering Khane won a lot in them, and then when an actual team with money started using them they came back to glory and won a championship with them...

 

[Ganon83]

Considering Khane won a lot in them, and then when an actual team with money started using them they came back to glory and won a championship with them...

How long was Penske with Dodge again?
It isn't like Penske only ran them for 2009 and onwards when they started competing for championships, and I'm pretty sure Penske had money before 2009...

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

How long was Penske with Dodge again?
It isn't like Penske only ran them for 2009 and onwards when they started competing for championships, and I'm pretty sure Penske had money before 2009...

They had wins in 2011 and 2012 quite a bit actually. Ford also had wins in 2013 but Penske only had one for each driver, also since factory support from Dodge went full on to Pesnke in the years I mentioned that may have played a role or perhaps the change in package and drivers from 2009 and 10 to 2011 and 12.

 

[RACECAR]

Considering Khane won a lot in them, and then when an actual team with money started using them they came back to glory and won a championship with them...

Yeah they got wins, but it feels like that came more down to Kahne then anything else as he seemed to win a lot more often then the other dodge drivers. As the years went on, the wins became less common and lets be honest, that championship in 2012 was all Brad and his exact same crew chief from the nationwide series.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah they got wins, but it feels like that came more down to Kahne then anything else as he seemed to win a lot more often then the other dodge drivers. As the years went on, the wins became less common and lets be honest, that championship in 2012 was all Brad and his exact same crew chief from the nationwide series.

I guess, but Dodge did its job and performed more aptly than the Fords then and I'd argue now. I agree Dodge probably wasn't the power house of the 60s and early 70s in current era, but really who is? No one can really stand out and it comes to the driver with the best crew and craft to race and be in the contention to win at any track, obviously that can be done in any manufacture since all the cars are virtually the same. Until the cars go back to being what they were in the 80s or what V8 Supers are and have been, can we see actual development on a great scale that proves one manufacture truly better than the others.

I would like to say though that Dodge seemed a lot more bullet proof in engines than the others especially Ford who went tinkering with a new engine development..

 

[RACECAR]

I guess, but Dodge did its job and performed more aptly than the Fords then and I'd argue now. I agree Dodge probably wasn't the power house of the 60s and early 70s in current era, but really who is?..

I'll give you a hint: Its the same maker that produces the lovely vettes

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'll give you a hint: Its the same maker that produces the lovely vettes

I know, but I didn't want to slight the Yota and Ford fans with my GM bias...you forced my hand RACECAR not cool not cool man

 

[BKGlover]

How competitive can you be when half the field is in one company's pocket. I think the "Constructors" championship needs to go to the shops that build the cars and the engines instead of Chevy.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

How competitive can you be when half the field is in one company's pocket. I think the "Constructors" championship needs to go to the shops that build the cars and the engines instead of Chevy.

But this isn't like F1, the shop is building manufactured cars (more or less) but maybe you have a point to it. The problem is they don't design transmissions, suspension systems inner body works (chassis) the body work is already spec and F1 it isn't.

 

[BKGlover]

That's all true to a point, but they do have to build them all, and while the drivetrain I can't say for certain, you have Hendrick, Roush-Yates, and Earnhart-Childress building the engines a lot of teams use, so maybe just that.

It's still better than much of Brian France's thoughts.

 

[RACECAR]

Could've sworn I heard the Gen 6 cars are stamped and supplied by the Manufacterers this time around (well, the bodies anyway).

 

[GTPorsche]

The nose and tail panels are, at least.

 

[Ganon83]

I honestly wouldn't be shocked within the next couple of decades if NASCAR hires all of the top shop workers and instead of the teams making the cars, NASCAR sells the teams the cars/engines (Up to a certain limit, like the chassis limit in F1). The big reason why they would do this is because NASCAR loves to control whatever elements it can. It also allows for things such as, say, the 2009 Dega upset to be weekly occurrences where a James Finch could beat a Rick Hendrick. It puts almost everything on the driver and crew chief relationship, and less on equipment. Finally, it allows NASCAR and the makes to work together directly, cutting out the middle man (Like Roush being between NASCAR and Ford).

 

[Ganon83]

http://www.nascar.com/presspass.html
SHR press conference about to start.

 

[Chqr]

3 drivers and Danica.

 

[BKGlover]

I honestly wouldn't be shocked within the next couple of decades if NASCAR hires all of the top shop workers and instead of the teams making the cars, NASCAR sells the teams the cars/engines (Up to a certain limit, like the chassis limit in F1). The big reason why they would do this is because NASCAR loves to control whatever elements it can. It also allows for things such as, say, the 2009 Dega upset to be weekly occurrences where a James Finch could beat a Rick Hendrick. It puts almost everything on the driver and crew chief relationship, and less on equipment. Finally, it allows NASCAR and the makes to work together directly, cutting out the middle man (Like Roush being between NASCAR and Ford).

So it becomes the next IROC?

Actually, I might be OK with that. Might.

Also: Watching Race Hub, what happened with Byrnes for him to be welcomed back?

 

[GTPorsche]

So it becomes the next IROC?

Actually, I might be OK with that. Might.

Also: Watching Race Hub, what happened with Byrnes for him to be welcomed back?

He had throat cancer, hadn't been on TV since mid-September because of it.

 

[BKGlover]

Noticed he looked a bit rough. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...ar-to-overhaul-points-chase.html#.Utn63Eko7tT

It's about time they are doing eliminations!!! The cream will rise to the top for sure!

 

[TheDabbinDave]

The Blue Deuce will be yellow for 8 races in '14.

Bring back Genuine Draft with a black & gold menacing look instead of the pansy lite nasty beer garbage. America's contribution to the world of beer is watered down pseudo beer!

 

[CodeRedR51]

Chase changes are official.

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-me...o-chase-for-the-nascar-sprint-cup-format.html

 

[RACECAR]

 

[Furinkazen]

@ NASCAR:

 

[Carbonox]

Welcome to the Chase, Front Row Motorsports.

 

[RACECAR]

Welcome to the Chase, Front Row Motorsports.

And Swan Racing and Germain Racing.

 

[Jahgee]

Honestly, why does it matter if David Ragan is in the Chase for 3 races. The whole winner take all at Homestead I could leave (Should be at a track like Bristol IMO)

 

[Blitz24]

So what happens if 17 drivers win a race and the points leader going into race 27 doesn't have a victory? Is he eliminated from the championship?