2014 NASCAR Thread

[Furinkazen]

my logic blows worlds dude

As does the fact he's barely been mentioned in this thread and like all of RFR been almost completely silent on track this season.

 

[Carbonox]

is tandem drafting even allowed anymore or it's just because of the smaller grilles (and therefore chance of overheat)? haven't seen any at Daytona or Talladega this year.

Ambrose fastest in first Sonoma practice. Qualifier tomorrow afternoon.

I watched my first races in 2011, hence the misconception.

 

[meek]

As does the fact he's barely been mentioned in this thread and like all of RFR been almost completely silent on track this season.

#99 only won at Bristol and could've at Charlotte (or was it Dover?), where he was in the lead with a few laps left but decided to stupidly pit (you don't do that in the new format with a win already, you need wins to get points for the Chase, as of now, JJ has 2009, Edwards 2003, they could've been both at 2006...)
Stenhouse scored a career best 2nd place in that same race, Biffle led a bunch of laps at Dega and finished second... not sure this qualifies as "almost completely silent"!

I watched my first races in 2011, hence the misconception.

Trevor Bayne!

two-faced baby

is this related to the M&M's talk? because it was debunked since, I don't see JGR having 4 teams next year anyway.

overrated

Carl Edwards career average finish 13.2, bested only by Stewart, Gordon and Johnson, just saying...

 

[iRevelationz]

#99 only won at Bristol and could've at Charlotte (or was it Dover?), where he was in the lead with a few laps left but decided to stupidly pit (you don't do that in the new format with a win already, you need wins to get points for the Chase, as of now, JJ has 2009, Edwards 2003, they could've been both at 2006...)
not sure this qualifies as "almost completely silent"!

Edwards wasn't going to win Charlotte whether he stayed out or not. Gordon got his doors blown off (whom had fresher tires and a better can than Edwards before he pitted) by Kenseth, followed by Johnson running him down, passing, and blowing his doors off. If Carl stayed out and restarted as the leader, he would've finished a lot worse than he did.

Biffle led a bunch of laps at Dega and finished second...

And David Ragan and David Gilliland finished 1-2 at Talladega last year. What's your point?

Seriously, anyone can run up front at Talladega, and Bristol is the only race where they've been any kind of real threat. They went to Michigan, a track they might as well own, and damn near got laughed out of the place. Between the three drivers, their average points position is 16th.

Like it or not, Roush has been almost completely silent this year. Fact.

 

[Ganon83]

Roush is about on par with RCR this year. Outside of one big moment (Carl winning Bristol, Dillon winning the 500 pole), they have done nothing, outside of Edwards being up in points, but he is better than any of the 6 drivers on both teams now.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Roush is about on par with RCR this year. Outside of one big moment (Carl winning Bristol, Dillon winning the 500 pole), they have done nothing, outside of Edwards being up in points, but he is better than any of the 6 drivers on both teams now.

Well he proved that as well in 2011 too and Roush weren't exactly strong then (nor were RCR) and in the past few years that's been the case. Yes Biffle was leading the points (2012?) before the chase, but had no win and then in the chase failed to do anything to even win or replicate his pre-chase form. The fact is Edwards makes that team look good still, but it's so limited people can figure out like you said, that it's all Edwards and his team rather than a great product from Roush.

 

[cnd01]

Menard has two top 5's and that's all RCR has going for them this year. At least Edwards and Stenhouse got a 1-2 I believe at Bristol. I'm glad Penske is taking the flag for Ford with Roush being down

 

[Jahgee]

Busch race at Road America is on ABC today

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Busch race at Road America is on ABC today

Yeah I saw that and look forward to it.

EDIT: They have their rain tires out and we may see them go on

 

[meek]

Edwards wasn't going to win Charlotte whether he stayed out or not. Gordon got his doors blown off (whom had fresher tires and a better can than Edwards before he pitted) by Kenseth, followed by Johnson running him down, passing, and blowing his doors off. If Carl stayed out and restarted as the leader, he would've finished a lot worse than he did.

If no additional caution, Edwards wins (another) race, fact.
When there's only been 10 winners, and one of them almost won 2, has 3 top-5s and 7 top 10s and is 6th in standings, with double the points of the cutoff guy (30th in standings), he isn't "silent", not even almost.

Seriously, anyone can run up front at Talladega, and Bristol is the only race where they've been any kind of real threat. They went to Michigan, a track they might as well own, and damn near got laughed out of the place. Between the three drivers, their average points position is 16th.

Like it or not, Roush has been almost completely silent this year. Fact.

I know anyone can run up front at Dega, but Biffle ran up front the whole race and finished second, it was no fluke like FRM last year (do you really think Ragan wins that race without Gilliland?).
He has another top 5 this year and would make the chase if the season stopped today (yet in your logic, top 16=silent year ).

Busch race at Road America is on ABC today

it's called Nationwide now... looking forward to the race as well, a 4+ miles road course isn't common!

Jamie McMurray on pole at Sonoma with a new track record!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

it's called Nationwide now... looking forward to the race as well, a 4+ miles road course isn't common!

Jamie McMurray on pole at Sonoma with a new track record!

It has been common for the past 5 years in NNS... also what's wrong with him calling it Busch if he wants?

 

[iRevelationz]

If no additional caution, Edwards wins (another) race, fact.

Wrong again.

Edwards was still questionable on fuel (the reason he was up there in the first place, strategy, not speed), and Gordon, Kenseth, and Johnson were coming in a hurry, only 6-7 seconds back with much fresher tires, and there was still 25 laps to go.

(yet in your logic, top 16=silent year ).

It is, actually. He barely squeezes into a 16 car Chase. Whoopty do. He runs on average around 15-20th most weeks and hasn't even led 100 laps this year, with over half of those coming at Talladega. Sorry, but that's silent. If you can't accept that, you're simply in denial.

 

[Müle]

is this related to the M&M's talk? because it was debunked since, I don't see JGR having 4 teams next year anyway.

A rumour was debunked purely based on what you think? lol okay.

But, no, I'm talking about his whole "nice guy" act he puts on, only to intentionally wreck people, and threaten to punch teammates for no reason.

It has been common for the past 5 years in NNS... also what's wrong with him calling it Busch if he wants?

He's clearly the king of the thread. What he says goes.

 

[Doodle]

A rumour was debunked purely based on what you think? lol okay.

But, no, I'm talking about his whole "nice guy" act he puts on, only to intentionally wreck people, and threaten to punch teammates for no reason.



He's clearly the king of the thread. What he says goes.

These are some of the most BS things I've ever heard. Have fun in my block list!

 

[Müle]

Yep, as I was clearly talking to you or even know who you are.

 

[Chqr]

Either bring Inters next time, NASCAR or don't bring rain tires at all in my opinion. This really sucks.

 

[Müle]

Goodyear likely has no clue what an "Inter" is.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Either bring Inters next time, NASCAR or don't bring rain tires at all in my opinion. This really sucks.

Exactly my thought. "Does Goodyear not remember what inters are?"

Goodyear likely has no clue what an "Inter" is.

They do, it's not like this is the only group they've made tires for. There is plenty of F1 and Sports Car racing that they produced wet weather tires for. They're just Goodyear doing the most minimal work possible, cause they got NASCAR locked up and can't possibly lose them to anyone else.

 

[RACECAR]

They do, it's not like this is the only group they've made tires for. There is plenty of F1 and Sports Car racing that they produced wet weather tires for. They're just Goodyear doing the most minimal work possible, cause they got NASCAR locked up and can't possibly lose them to anyone else.

Mostly because nobody else wants NASCAR.


And in other news, the race has finally started.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Mostly because nobody else wants NASCAR.


And in other news, the race has finally started.

Other than the claims that Michelin might want to take over, which never surfaced any more after it was talked about back in March or April what ever it was.

 

[Müle]

Exactly my thought. "Does Goodyear not remember what inters are?"


They do, it's not like this is the only group they've made tires for. There is plenty of F1 and Sports Car racing that they produced wet weather tires for. They're just Goodyear doing the most minimal work possible, cause they got NASCAR locked up and can't possibly lose them to anyone else.

It was a joke.

Am I not allowed to joke anymore? I'm more than aware that Goodyear has made tires for pretty much everything before.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Time for the rain tires!

 

[meek]

Wrong again.

Edwards was still questionable on fuel (the reason he was up there in the first place, strategy, not speed), and Gordon, Kenseth, and Johnson were coming in a hurry, only 6-7 seconds back with much fresher tires, and there was still 25 laps to go.




It is, actually. He barely squeezes into a 16 car Chase. Whoopty do. He runs on average around 15-20th most weeks and hasn't even led 100 laps this year, with over half of those coming at Talladega. Sorry, but that's silent. If you can't accept that, you're simply in denial.

I don't even like Biffle but he's 15th in points, therefore he must be running higher than 15-20th on average... oh and another positive point for Roush, he (still) doesn't get DNFs.
Let's just agree that RFR is generally having a down year (dragged by Stenhouse's performance or lack thereof, transparent he has been besides Bristol).

It has been common for the past 5 years in NNS

Long track+road course+NASCAR=not common.
I wish there were more road races, I'm sure it'd help NASCAR's popularity.

what's wrong with him calling it Busch if he wants?

If Busch was a founder's name I'd get it, but it was just a sponsor (Anheuser-Busch, beers). The main sponsor has changed in 2007 and the Series name isn't the same since, you don't call New York New Amsterdam anymore, do you? (not judging if you do lol)

RAIN... SWEET!

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Every-a-body's going off!

 

[cnd01]

This'll be good

 

[Jahgee]

Poor Tag

 

[GTPorsche]

Andy Lally is 3rd. This could get interesting.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Just another typical Road America finish. Damn, that was tense! 👍

 

[GTPorsche]

Tagliani.. in 3 laps... went from 23rd to 2nd.

 

[RACECAR]

Holy crap, what a drive from Tagliani. He came out of nowhere on that last corner.