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[Mike08]

I now have 3 Monti Ciottoli.
Yours is huge. About 3 times more kb than the others. Why the kn5 file is so big? 557kb

1st: Better graphics and more objects need more filesize. Or does my track look the same like your others?
2nd: i experminted with 8k and 4k textures /bump Maps, in kn5 and external skin. I am sorry i had some texture placement problems , because they are so big, so it is not optimized yet. That is why it's not 1.0 yet.

 

[xezez]

Dan Bucsa updated all of his 15 cars.
LINK

Looks like they're set to remain a mystery for anyone who doesn't do Facebook... unless some good soul provides download links that don't require logging on to it. I can't find a way to even see the photo album without being asked to sign in.

 

[RMi_wood]

1st: Better graphics and more objects need more filesize. Or does my track look the same like your others?
2nd: i experminted with 8k and 4k textures /bump Maps, in kn5 and external skin. I am sorry i had some texture placement problems , because they are so big, so it is not optimized yet. That is why it's not 1.0 yet.

I noticed a thing when working on tracks, sometimes when exporting from 3dSimed to kn5 the filesize can be 10x what it should be.
One solution is to export from 3dSimed to fbx, load the fbx in AC editor and export from there or reimport the fbx back into 3dSimed.

 

[Mike08]

I noticed a thing when working on tracks, sometimes when exporting from 3dSimed to kn5 the filesize can be 10x what it should be.
One solution is to export from 3dSimed to fbx, load the fbx in AC editor and export from there or reimport the fbx back into 3dSimed.

Thanks mate, i will also check this after taking care of the textures.
Also thanks to Zwiss for his hints via PM!

 

[Fanapryde]

Thanks mate, i will also check this after taking care of the textures.

Your version is for some reason very dark overall. Could be on my side, but since it is the only track that shows this, I doubt that.
Can anyone confirm please ?

 

[arctx]

Your version is for some reason very dark overall. Could be on my side, but since it is the only track that shows this, I doubt that.
Can anyone confirm please ?

Yes is quite dark on my end too. And cant make it brighter through sol settings neither..

 

[Luca959]

I now have 3 Monti Ciottoli.
Yours is huge. About 3 times more kb than the others. Why the kn5 file is so big? 557kb

RD The requested resource could not be found.

 

[blueshinex]

Looks like they're set to remain a mystery for anyone who doesn't do Facebook... unless some good soul provides download links that don't require logging on to it. I can't find a way to even see the photo album without being asked to sign in.

you´re Welcome

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[Mike08]

Yes is quite dark on my end too. And cant make it brighter through sol settings neither..

Then i guess i should not have tested so much on the new sol Beta... And the csp Previews.
I had some variations of brightness .. Sometimes too dark Sometimes too bright.
Even on the official sol ppfilters.
I will tweak that again.

 

[TheRealCeeBee]

some good soul provides download links

not sure about good soul bit, but you did help out in another matter.

Ferrari_F50_1995
Ferrari_250_GT_Lusso_1963
De_Tomaso_Pantera_GT5-S_1984
Alfa_Romeo_Montreal_1967
Acura NSX (1994) 2 in 1
Porsche 911 997 GT3 RSR
Porsche 944 Turbo S (1988)
Koenigsegg_One1_Skugga_v2
Nissan R91CP (1991)
BMW 320 V8 Judd (2006)
Toyota Mark 2 MadZ
Audi RS4 (2006)
Porsche 911 993 RWB
Alpine A364 F3

damn, got ninja'd!

 

[Jimlloyd]

I noticed a thing when working on tracks, sometimes when exporting from 3dSimed to kn5 the filesize can be 10x what it should be.
One solution is to export from 3dSimed to fbx, load the fbx in AC editor and export from there or reimport the fbx back into 3dSimed.

This is always the best practice... 3dsimed is useful... But I would always as a matter of course always export to fbx and run through the editor... It will also help with performance in most cases

 

[Masscot]

Then i guess i should not have tested so much on the new sol Beta... And the csp Previews.
I had some variations of brightness .. Sometimes too dark Sometimes too bright.
Even on the official sol ppfilters.
I will tweak that again.

Hi Mike, is your update to Monti Ciottoli just a texture rework? I notice it has a selectable skin 'Mike 08', so if this is unticked then is the track exactly the same as the one that @__EASY__ released?

Also, are you sure the track wasn't removed from RD because it might be an unauthorised conversion, rather than because of the file size or using external links?

 

[Masscot]

not sure about good soul bit, but you did help out in another matter.

Ferrari_F50_1995
Ferrari_250_GT_Lusso_1963
De_Tomaso_Pantera_GT5-S_1984
Alfa_Romeo_Montreal_1967
Acura NSX (1994) 2 in 1
Porsche 911 997 GT3 RSR
Porsche 944 Turbo S (1988)
Koenigsegg_One1_Skugga_v2
Nissan R91CP (1991)
BMW 320 V8 Judd (2006)
Toyota Mark 2 MadZ
Audi RS4 (2006)
Porsche 911 993 RWB
Alpine A364 F3

damn, got ninja'd!

A lot of those just seem to be photoshop templates..?

 

[TheRealCeeBee]

A lot of those just seem to be photoshop templates..?

bummer if they are, i just copied the links from the posts, and that was PAINFUL.. try the post 2 above mine maybe i got the wrong links?

 

[xezez]

you´re Welcome

not sure about good soul bit, but you did help out in another matter.

damn, got ninja'd!

Two good souls at the same time! Blessed be team GTP! Big thanks to you both.

EDIT: RCB... some of your links may have been wonky, but you have still been officially annointed as a 'good soul' by the 'Pope of Sim Racing', like it or not.

 

[Mike08]

Hi Mike, is your update to Monti Ciottoli just a texture rework? I notice it has a selectable skin 'Mike 08', so if this is unticked then is the track exactly the same as the one that @__EASY__ released?

Also, are you sure the track wasn't removed from RD because it might be an unauthorised conversion, rather than because of the file size or using external links?

It is a big rework, has more Details/objects and new shaders with more texturework already in the kn5. I guess i have put way more than 30hours in it.
It is nothing like EASYs track any more. You should see instantly after driving both tracks.
I also used skin besides all kn5 rework to test texture variations , this skin is part of the whole , you should not deactivate it.

I got the warning message from RD that i posted external link.
I didnt want to do it but had no option to do it fast, without again putting in another hour.

 

[Masscot]

bummer if they are, i just copied the links from the posts, and that was PAINFUL.. try the post 2 above mine maybe i got the wrong links?

Ah, no worries, and thanks for the effort. I quite dislike the FB trend of having to find the right photo in an album to reveal the car link. Seems like an unnecessary series of hoops to jump through.

 

[Masscot]

It is a big rework, has more Details/objects and new shaders with more texturework already in the kn5. I guess i have put way more than 30hours in it.
It is nothing like EASYs track any more. You should see instantly after driving both tracks.
I also used skin besides all kn5 rework to test texture variations , this skin is part of the whole , you should not deactivate it.

I got the warning message from RD that i posted external link.
I didnt want to do it but had no option to do it fast, without again putting in another hour.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Will the skin eventually be folded into the kn5? It'll probably help to reduce the massive file size as a lot of textures might be getting duplicated unnecessarily. Your track is literally over ten times bigger than @__EASY__ 's version (1.62GB vs 126MB).
Also, could you please look at the track limits and penalties? Like all of the other versions of this track you get penalised with 'track cut' penalties just for clipping a fence. Seems harsh..!

 

[Fanapryde]

Yes is quite dark on my end too. And cant make it brighter through sol settings neither..

Indeed, trying to alter the brightness using SOL config results in a crash...

 

[Mike08]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Will the skin eventually be folded into the kn5? It'll probably help to reduce the massive file size as a lot of textures might be getting duplicated unnecessarily. Your track is literally over ten times bigger than @__EASY__ 's version (1.62GB vs 126MB).
Also, could you please look at the track limits and penalties? Like all of the other versions of this track you get penalised with 'track cut' penalties just for clipping a fence. Seems harsh..!

To clear that again... I already wrote above.
Yes! Because my new textures and stuff are also 10 times bigger in many cases. And sometimes trippled, because of road multinm shader for example using 5 textures layered. In the original only 1 texture simple ksperpixel shader.

That is a problem of the most AC Tracks... a track can not look good with 200kb web size graphics.
Guess why Forza7 has 130GB

 

[Masscot]

To clear that again... I already wrote above.
Yes! Because my new textures and stuff are also 10 times bigger in many cases. And sometimes trippled, because of road multinm shader for example using 5 textures layered. In the original only 1 texture simple ksperpixel shader.

That is a problem of the most AC Tracks... a track can not look good with 200kb web size graphics.
Guess why Forza7 has 130GB

No problem, I was just saying the file size should come down a lot once all the unnecessary duplication has been tidied up. It's currently even bigger than the sx_lemans track which is physically a much bigger/more complicated track with far more textures and detail.
I guess I was trying to help in a clumsy roundabout way, I didn't mean it as criticism.

 

[Don123456789]

For those missing the fantastic track Mike08's Monti Ciottoli v0.95 public FREE release, ( somehow RaceDepartment remove the link less than 24 hrs )

https://www.patreon.com/posts/mike08s-monti-41827288

 

[flyingsaucer]

God Bless whole this community but in particular whole Cars/Tracks modders. I hope to learn something sooner or later to help!

 

[Shokeus]

Porsche 944 Turbo Cup V0.96

Link : https://mega.nz/file/1QIAiZTL#qPsxzZCFU17flpINxpOZUU-MG5vWOD__c0UmEPq9_q0

in the future if you have any changes to make thank you to send them to me first by private message before posting a new version that I check their accuracy , I would update myself if necessary , otherwise we will never get away with it , thanks

 

[Masscot]

Try 86ing the config first and see which you like better. It's basically all emissive lighting. If it's just the headlights and tail lights, the first section before it says "interior" you can get rid of. Obviously make a copy of the config first.

Thanks - I've tried this in the past with other cars that use emissive lighting and I think you just end up with a single little dull point source.

 

[JakubP]

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[graveltrap]

Hello VR

 

[dathyr]

I noticed a thing when working on tracks, sometimes when exporting from 3dSimed to kn5 the filesize can be 10x what it should be.
One solution is to export from 3dSimed to fbx, load the fbx in AC editor and export from there or reimport the fbx back into 3dSimed.

I also say thanks for this information on 3dsimed. @RMi_wood I always do a "Reset View" before doing my exports back to KN5. Not sure, but does this make any difference in final size of KN5 files?

Also when you do go from 3dsimed to FBX and then go to KSeditor, Do you have to change all the graphics to make them look right so they dont look 2d or a strange funky looking graphics? Not sure if I am explaining that correctly.

 

[Paulo Ribeiro]

1st: Better graphics and more objects need more filesize. Or does my track look the same like your others?
2nd: i experminted with 8k and 4k textures /bump Maps, in kn5 and external skin. I am sorry i had some texture placement problems , because they are so big, so it is not optimized yet. That is why it's not 1.0 yet.

Thanks mate, i will also check this after taking care of the textures.
Also thanks to Zwiss for his hints via PM!

Then i guess i should not have tested so much on the new sol Beta... And the csp Previews.
I had some variations of brightness .. Sometimes too dark Sometimes too bright.
Even on the official sol ppfilters.
I will tweak that again.

Tbh, yours look like the same as one of mines.
I'm saying this, 'watching' the track while racing and not walking around as a FPS.
As for the track limits penalty, the others are more 'friendly'. Tested at the same spots.
Really doesn't make sense hitting a fence (losing time), get a penalty. We are not shortcutting anything.

Please don't see this as a negative criticism. I know you will provide a better upfate optimized file size track.

Thank you for your hard work.👍

Cheers

 

[TheRealCeeBee]

finally got back to Curvelo after the tripoli sidetrack.

Extracted all the trees and bushes from the original AMS track, ran my script on them to X tree them and MUCH better, lots of different trees now, in lots of height and colour variations.

interesting to note, the trees in orginal AMS track mach the (older) trees on the sattelite photo pretty much damn deadone, so dumped all my trees and used these instead! (see last image where i had not painted out the trees.. those are old AMS trees on the new 2020 sattelite image.