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Surely we all want quality over quantity?

Surely we all want quality over quantity?
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Surely we all want quality over quantity?
(5) MSF Italian Modding Team | Facebook Could try this?Do you have a link at all? I tried searching for ACR but got the phonebook.
Well that's what we've had for the past seven years, and the wheat gets lost in all of the chaff.
Isn't that just... modding in general? Everything gets it lol from Xcom to Civ to Hoi4 to AC to Cities Skylines. If everyone is able to try and make new content for a game, this happens.Well that's what we've had for the past seven years, and the wheat gets lost in all of the chaff.
One of the reason about why less and less good mods are made is the way people consider modder's work.At this stage of AC game development, we already have quantity, tsunami type quantity. I have more car mods on storage on a separate drive than in game. Quality is the real challenge, most are just grid filler. Most are just in my game for the curiosity of being able to seat in them in VR, the driving is OK at best.
For a few month now, we are getting less and less new mods, the little we get are often plague with encryption. They are just as bad as before, but with the encryption we now cannot even fix the more blatant issues.
The golden days are behind us, we knew the day would come, it was un avoidable.
So quality over quantity might not even be on the table anymore, we are not getting either.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/403042269883364/aboutDo you have a link at all? I tried searching for ACR but got the phonebook.
Rtm mods have terrible physics, they are not mapped at all, they are sometimes broken, there is no care at all put into the making. One of their csr converts can be made in one day without mapping. They are lazy and only seek money, I would say that's enough to stay away from them.OK so, hot take I know, but... what exactly is wrong with the SDD and RTM mods themselves, apart from being paid when they don't need to? Like, a lot of their stuff are already available for free if you know where to find em, so that doesn't have to be a problem...? But like, what I mean is, they work, right? They drive, they have sound, they function as AI... sure, they don't have a few advanced features like compatibility w/ Sol or damage but, let's be honest, not many mods do. Not even the RSS Formula Hybrid stuff has proper damage. The RSS and RTM stuff isn't special, sure, but it's not... bad... unless you really look into it, and for some people that's okay.
GT Ferruccio 55 and 57
The other GT, GTM, and GTN cars all seem to wipe just fine.
It is a big modding sandbox, but how often does a developer produce documentation with step-by-step instructions detailing how to produce mods to OEM standards? Kunos did that with the pipeline docs but those seem to go largely ignored.Isn't that just... modding in general? Everything gets it lol from Xcom to Civ to Hoi4 to AC to Cities Skylines. If everyone is able to try and make new content for a game, this happens.
Look, some aren't that bad. I've honestly driven worse, or tried to, like that Plymouth Superbird mod whose engine explodes after four gear changes.Rtm mods have terrible physics, they are not mapped at all, they are sometimes broken, there is no care at all put into the making. One of their csr converts can be made in one day without mapping. They are lazy and only seek money, I would say that's enough to stay away from them.
Do you really want to compare a RSS mod to rtm and SimDream?
Pretty sure a few games have that, especially ones with Steam Workshop compatibility. Rivals of Aether, for example, has at least two example characters to create new fighters, and at least one stage. I'm sure Civ VI has dev tutorials or something. Cities Skylines does regular mod promotions on Steam, with mod developers choosing decent recent mods.It is a big modding sandbox, but how often does a developer produce documentation with step-by-step instructions detailing how to produce mods to OEM standards? Kunos did that with the pipeline docs but those seem to go largely ignored.
Very true and I don't disagree. My original point was about the danger of decrypting mods and how that could lead to those types of mods never being released in the first place. Encrypted mods tend to be (but not always) of a higher standard than the usual fare, possibly because the modders are prouder of their work and want to preserve it in its released form. I'd rather have access to a good car that I can't even tweak for personal use than a bad one that's not worth the effort.Pretty sure a few games have that, especially ones with Steam Workshop compatibility. Rivals of Aether, for example, has at least two example characters to create new fighters, and at least one stage. I'm sure Civ VI has dev tutorials or something. Cities Skylines does regular mod promotions on Steam, with mod developers choosing decent recent mods.
EDIT: point being, this experience you're having with AC mods is not special. Every game that has any form of modding, especially well explained or sanctioned modding platforms, in which I count AC, gets like this. Giving people tools does not mean giving people craftsmanship: you only need to look at Mario Maker to see that.
I'd rather have access to a good car that I can't even tweak for personal use than a bad one that's not worth the effort.
I have a few more!
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Will pack them up an stick on my google drive later, some are not the best as they where my first ever converion jobs based on legions original stuff
IMSA - 1990 Mazda RX-7
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Ive not heard from @Shokeus about any instrument fix for the Poesche 924 GTU/GTO/GTX-IMSA... but shes ready to go physics wise.
Ahh, my bad.No its ACR. ASR is bringing the F399 from 1999. The one from ACR is the 2000 Ferrari F2000. Sadly i cannpt post a link because you have to be in the favebook group to download it. Search for Assetto Corsa Racer
This will only cause more drama between Discord and Facebook users like it or not. I don't really care about encryption anymore if the user wants to use it then I'm fine even if I'm still off if its a ripped mod. However i don't want to use encryption on my mods because of some of my personal reasons. Also isn't calling most of AC mods garbage a bit harsh? it would have been better off if you called them just bad or mediocre sure they don't follow the Kunos Pipeline but hey at least they drive? Sure there are really some bad apples like renzobich and some others too but hey my older mods didn't follow the Pipeline either the Mclaren GT and the Huracan EVO Spyder are good examples... I improved overtime just like some other modders like Bruce Kelt and delpinsky. Later i did take a peek at the Pipeline and found out what Ambient Occlusion is everything else i took a peek at Kunos cars and other better mods RSS mods ect... The only thing left is to master FMOD and Physics.... The thing i fear about this unencryption thing is that it will cast more drama. Automodel Japan and some others even though encrypted are actually pretty good mods. However i fear like this could make them quit.Seems like a sure fire was to piss a lot of modders off and ensure that even more top-tier mods are kept private.
Encryption is here to stay so why not just respect the modder's right to encrypt if that's the only way they're happy to create content and distribute their stuff in the first place, even if the mods aren't scratch-built and are using assets from other sources?
The only time it gets annoying is if the encrypted mod has basic errors that are normally easily fixed by the user (driver position, hand/wheel synch, AI cars stuck on start line etc) and the modder is hard to contact to report these issues or doesn't update the mod even after reports are submitted.
But even in these cases it's not like we're short of content. If the car is totally broken then there will usually be an alternative.
Hopefully the locked-down nature of encryption will increasingly mean that modders are a little more focused on releasing higher-quality pipeline mods, fully tested and free of errors. We've got access to a lot of car mods in AC but the overwhelming majority are total garbage, just hack conversions burped out for fifteen minutes of fame.
Surely we all want quality over quantity?
A lot are definitely garbage by any definition of the word but yeah, there is a sliding scale. The problem is, the gap is only getting wider. Mods are being produced now that are at least on par with Kunos content, and in some cases surpassing it. OK, modders now have access to lots of CSP enhancements that Kunos couldn't use at the time, but it's always an impressive feat when hobbyists match professional work in their spare time and with limited resources. It's those types of mods that we're in danger of losing, not the stuff that gets released on a daily basis where basic functionality seems to be the only barrier to entry... and even then this is not always achieved.This will only cause more drama between Discord and Facebook users like it or not. I don't really care about encryption anymore if the user wants to use it then I'm fine even if I'm still off if its a ripped mod. However i don't want to use encryption on my mods because of some of my personal reasons. Also isn't calling most of AC mods garbage a bit harsh? it would have been better off if you called them just bad or mediocre sure they don't follow the Kunos Pipeline but hey at least they drive? Sure there are really some bad apples like renzobich and some others too but hey my older mods didn't follow the Pipeline either the Mclaren GT and the Huracan EVO Spyder are good examples... I improved overtime just like some other modders like Bruce Kelt and delpinsky. Later i did take a peek at the Pipeline and found out what Ambient Occlusion is everything else i took a peek at Kunos cars and other better mods RSS mods ect... The only thing left is to master FMOD and Physics.... The thing i fear about this unencryption thing is that it will cast more drama. Automodel Japan and some others even though encrypted are actually pretty good mods. However i fear like this could make them quit.
New from ACR: Ferrari F2000 available on their Facebook page. Sound is done by ACFAN
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Update: One FB user says that the people who decrypted said mods were from Japan.Someone on FB recently said that some encrypted mods have been decrypted and were being redistributed. Anyone knows of such mods?
Test this car at Reboot Team's Suzuka. I'm having an issue where it suddenly hits something and severely damages the car just as it's about to enter T15, the fast sweeping turn before the chicane at the end of the lap. I'm still investigating this issue.
@Jimlloyd
This will be an amazing pack...thank youI have a few more!
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Looks amazing...great work so far![]()
A small peek on what I'm working on at the moment![]()