FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Keith2324]

My final race of the pre-season was a rather fun one. Managed a good result and had a blast racing with Vulcanan. He raced me hard but extremely fair. He could've pushed the envelope but he remained very patient waiting for the right moment to pass. I was hoping for a podium finish but my tires gave up the ghost. Here's hoping for more races like this in the future.

Keith.

 

[mclarenLB]

Reserving judgement for now but with this much lower tyre wear next season we should actually be able to have fun racing again,

But of course with every positive we seem to get a negative, the races appear to be getting even shorter still, the upcoming Le Mans Gr.3 race is 4 laps... Four?? That's going to be literally barely over a 15 minute race... That's just one example, all the other races this season are following this trend as well

 

[WaikeCU]

Disappointment at Lago Maggiore. This happened after a solid qualifying starting 6th. Race was done after turn 3...




Nonetheless, content with my Pre-Season. 2nd Porsche in Flanders, 20th Porsche Regionally, 164th Regionally of all drivers. Highlight was my promotion to DR A+!

 

[Jeeves_ACBC]

Looking for your opinions guys.

I have been signed with Ferrari, and managed to finish 1st in the Manufacturer for North America region, now although it is fun to finish 1st in a Manufacturer, now that PD has decided we can switch Manufacturers again, what should I do?

I can either stick with a "not so good" car, and struggle all season to get decent results but have a shot at a decent finishing position in a Manufacturer, or switch to a different manufacturer which would give me a bit more pleasure driving their car, while not getting as good a result within said manufacturer?

You and me are in the same boat man. 1st for Honda in NA feels like an accomplishment. Knowing that our cars are less than ideal makes those good results feel even sweeter; I managed 3 or 4 wins this season in mid-A. Even though we can switch, I think I'm going to stick with Honda.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

I'm amazed PD is generous enough to allow the switch. Along with the reduced tyre wear they have just about redeemed themselves for the latest physics update I think.

I'm definitely activating the exit clause in my Ferrari contract Might just skip the first round to check how the pieces fall. Not that I have chance of making finals, but I like being with an underdog team. Gives more motivation to do well, and less pressure if you don't

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I’m shocked at the flexibility PD is giving us to switch too. I’m not sure if I’m sticking with Lexus, I’m sure Deafsun will stick with them and he’s the ultimate alien right now, which removes any chance of me making a live event.

Truthfully, I don’t have the time to practice enough for making a live event so the decision isn’t that critical for me, it’s mostly about driving something I enjoy driving and also enjoy making liveries for. The Lexus is a good platform for both, especially the liveries, both cars look great. It’s the small things in life.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Comfort and enjoyment are the reason I’m going home to Subaru as well. Wasn’t having much fun in the VW, and I’m never really going to enjoy Manufacturers races too much so might as well use my favourite cars (and two of the few I feel I can get 100% out of) in both classes

 

[vvise]

After the hardships of this pre-season with Nissan, nothing will tear us apart. We're stronger than ever now lol.

Until they add Bentley.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I am foreseeing a few moves here and there but I doubt most that have qualified via exhibition are going to switch.

Way I see it, those on the outside looking in are going to have to fight and take someone else's spot. Alternatively, you will have to find teammates in other regions and together pick a non-Top 12 Manufacturer.

I consider myself available even though I hold firm Pug's viability is a lot stronger with the better tire wear. I won't be able to race the first round but otherwise can do everything else. You have time to convince me.

 

[vvise]

Way I see it, those on the outside looking in are going to have to fight and take someone else's spot. Alternatively, you will have to find teammates in other regions and together pick a non-Top 12 Manufacturer.

yeah i see cross region partnerships becoming part of the meta (looking at you Subaru)

 

[Jeeves_ACBC]

yeah i see cross region partnerships becoming part of the meta (looking at you Subaru)

Hmm...how do I convince Lightning to switch to Honda?

 

[Hasnain282]

Hmm...how do I convince Lightning to switch to Honda?

You'll need some cookies... A lot of them

 

[8l23ub]

Saturdays Nations N500, completed 85 percent of the race without any major blunders, then had two in the space of twenty seconds, where I threw potential p2 and p3 at the scenery, still enjoyed it though.



Thanks for the road car events PD, now if only you can give me the opportunity to race some N600's for a 458 or Huracan dilemma 👍

 

[Wardez]

Coming off the heels of a rough Manufacturers race @ Maggiore in the last top split, really gutted that I only got 6th when I was on for a podium.

It's those esses, man. Especially Turn 7. There's a little strip of grass just over the curb, and if you run over it the wrong way, the car promptly loses its balance. I found that out in practice lobbies and also from watching @Tidgney 's stream where he lost balance at Turn 7 a couple of times. During my first stint, I avoided cutting that turn like the plague, and I was able to keep up with the top pack behind the bumper of Wardez for a while in 5th, where I started.

But then the tire wear started kicking in, and it got to the point where I had to cut Turn 7 just to get a good run through Turn 8 and have some extra speed for the straight. But, because I didn't cut, I had to slow down so much for Turn 8 on Lap 4, and just like that I'm almost a second away from the top pack, out of the draft.

From then on, I had a battle with @OutlawQuadrnt for 5th, eventually losing the spot as I had pushed too hard at the start of my second stint in an admittedly half-hearted attempt to get back to the bumper of Wardez. I would've lost 6th to an FT-1 driver but he made the same mistake I was so afraid of making right in front of me on the last lap, and fortunately I was able to claw my way back to 6th.

Not a terrible result and still a fair race, but I'm definetely gutted I couldn't stay in the fight for podium positions in this last chance I had to make significant gains in my ranking. I know the Aston had the pace to do so, but my hesitation with one particular corner kept me out of it.

Overall, it's been a roller coaster of a season, from getting a black screen glitch in qualfying for Brands Hatch to winning the non-Top 16 top split race at Suzuka (never posted about it, but fair play to @Wardez, that was a great battle we had in that race). Hopefully I can keep it up in the next season but I know it's not going to get any easier.

Awesome race in the final round there @Timlour ! I feel a comradery with you for sure with this pre-season. I feel like we each had a great growth and progression together. Looking forward to seeing you take that momentum forward into the regular season

I still think about that battle in Suzuka! What an intense time, super fun racing, really solidified you in my head as one of those rare drivers that I can feel totally comfortable racing hard around. That Aston wasn't easy for you to drive like that in, so major props.

 

[Pfei]

So, looking at the Ferrari table in CSA region, only three people in the top ten raced the last round. The top scorer bagged 424 points which translates to two Manufacturer points.

That's when I realized something I didn't see before: no-shows seriously hurt the Manufacturer. Of the top six, only one driver seems to have made a real attempt at nearly every race. I missed four due to time constraints (Saturday is horrible - please move to Sunday or stagger the hours more i.e. morning/midday/evening).

So, you need to finish #1 AND score good points every round, or at least having others pick up the slack when the top scorers don't race. For example, you could score thousands of points in your three best rounds and be #1 in the region, but if you skip the rest of the season and no-one is scoring big when you don't race then your Manufacturer plummets down the rankings.

I'm not sure if I will stay with Ferrari or not. I haven't tried the new physics yet. Will have to do some testing and decide before Saturday.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Hmm...how do I convince Lightning to switch to Honda?

No chance. He's committed to Slowbaru.

 

[KONTRAone]

I’m shocked at the flexibility PD is giving us to switch too. I’m not sure if I’m sticking with Lexus, I’m sure Deafsun will stick with them and he’s the ultimate alien right now, which removes any chance of me making a live event.

Truthfully, I don’t have the time to practice enough for making a live event so the decision isn’t that critical for me, it’s mostly about driving something I enjoy driving and also enjoy making liveries for. The Lexus is a good platform for both, especially the liveries, both cars look great. It’s the small things in life.

I suspect that the change of heart has something to do with the recent physics update and the subsequent angry mob of aliens... I know at least a few top contenders threatened to quit this season, and they can't put on a good show without their top talent. I doubt we'll see too many changes but it's nice to have the option, especially since the whole championship format has changed drastically and it's more of a team effort now.

And I agree to some extent that we should sign with a manufacturer that makes us happy, but you still got a shot at making an event this year so maybe the manufacturer with the region's top driver isn't the best choice lol

I'm stubborn, so I'm staying loyal to VW though the driver line-up seems more stacked than ever... but there's no easy ticket to the finals anyway so at least i'd be happy helping my team make the cut.

That's when I realized something I didn't see before: no-shows seriously hurt the Manufacturer. Of the top six, only one driver seems to have made a real attempt at nearly every race. I missed four due to time constraints (Saturday is horrible - please move to Sunday or stagger the hours more i.e. morning/midday/evening).

So, you need to finish #1 AND score good points every round, or at least having others pick up the slack when the top scorers don't race. For example, you could score thousands of points in your three best rounds and be #1 in the region, but if you skip the rest of the season and no-one is scoring big when you don't race then your Manufacturer plummets down the rankings.

it's definitely more of a team effort now, yeah. And thank you for pointing out a strategic element that i hadn't considered; It might be wise to communicate and coordinate not only between regions, but within your own region as well to make sure that all rounds are covered 👍

 

[Timlour]

Awesome race in the final round there @Timlour ! I feel a comradery with you for sure with this pre-season. I feel like we each had a great growth and progression together. Looking forward to seeing you take that momentum forward into the regular season

I still think about that battle in Suzuka! What an intense time, super fun racing, really solidified you in my head as one of those rare drivers that I can feel totally comfortable racing hard around. That Aston wasn't easy for you to drive like that in, so major props.

Thank you. It feels so good knowing that I'm earning the respect of others great drivers by racing smart and being a good sportsman. That's exactly why I compete.

I was just looking through the Manufacturers Series on the archive, and found out that I finished this pre-season and the exhibition season beforehand with the exact same results. Even crazier, I finished right behind lightningdf22b1 (the Toyota driver I mentioned in my previous post, not sure if he's on GTP) in both seasons, and we were using the opposite manufacturers both times! How does this happen???

Exhibition Season results:

Pre-season Results:

 

[Mikail Hizal]

Hmm...how do I convince Lightning to switch to Honda?

I almost took it... ^^

 

[RACECAR]

Not quite on topic but for those that have been to the finals or world tour events, are these trips all expense payed or do you have to pay? In the slight wacky off chance I actually make it to one of these, I'd like to sorta know as it would kinda suck to have the skills and ranking but not the funds to attend one.

Back on topic: With the Physics change to the Lexus, I MIGHT stay with it in Manufacterers once that starts back up again. The difference of how the car handled the tire wear in Saturday's race versus previous ones was night & day, it was actually predictable and gradual.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I managed to do a few Group 4 races and while the lower tire wear helps, cars that have qualifying pace and have good tire wear are just going to walk away from everyone else. I can all but confirm the Group 4 Megane is utterly useless now. Also, the races are far too short, some not even 14 minutes long. I want to say the RCZ can compete now but it's not looking a lot better for it, to be honest. The torque steer is worse with harder compounds and the tires still wear down too fast for my liking. The AWD cars are in a similar boat in regards to losing out in pace because the fronts get chewed up and they have no way of shifting that wear.

So yes, there is some improvements but do they help those that need it the most? I'm not really seeing it.

 

[kjeldsen]

*EDIT*

 

[Mikail Hizal]

But then you figured that creating another custom livery with OREO and Cookie Monster Decals would take to long.. it makes perfect sense!

I will use my evo livery on the wrx from now on xD

 

[Sidawg2]

Not quite on topic but for those that have been to the finals or world tour events, are these trips all expense payed or do you have to pay? In the slight wacky off chance I actually make it to one of these, I'd like to sorta know as it would kinda suck to have the skills and ranking but not the funds to attend one.

Back on topic: With the Physics change to the Lexus, I MIGHT stay with it in Manufacterers once that starts back up again. The difference of how the car handled the tire wear in Saturday's race versus previous ones was night & day, it was actually predictable and gradual.

It’s all paid for yes down to meals and transfers etc. But depending on your work situation it might “cost” you time at work and thus lost wages. But hey small sacrifice

 

[Achika_Kuonji]

Global Manufacturer Ranking's Points Calculation Changes
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/news/00_1224433.html

 

[speedychicken]

Global Manufacturer Ranking's Points Calculation Changes
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/news/00_1224433.html

i like this change, as i can't make most of it due to holiday

 

[Pfei]

Global Manufacturer Ranking's Points Calculation Changes
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/news/00_1224433.html

That effectively takes care of the no-show problem I mentioned yesterday.

 

[schnick]

Global Manufacturer Ranking's Points Calculation Changes
https://www.gran-turismo.com/world/gtsport/news/00_1224433.html

So this changes everything again, in the smaller regions of CSA and Oceania there's no need to do every round or hope a backup can score decent points in your absence. You can even save your efforts for when the car/track combo suits your car or just have a strong gr4 only car or strong gr3 only car.

It's not clear but I 'm also assuming that the end of stage 1 will only count the best 3 out of 10 scores similar to nations for the purposes of Austria world tour qualification.

 

[zzz_pt]

Lamb, Jara and gilles_honda have the guaranteed spots, JOSETE is the first backup

Josete as back up.
Tsu tsu might end up as a back up too if he's not lucky.

Great system

 

[RZQSPEED]

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