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[O604]

Watched my replay and I was very lucky. 3-4 times could have been race over.

Computer saved me here


Dodged one here

 

[Odiesback]

Some kind of redemption from the last slot of the night!

Qualy was messed up! Got a 0.5 sec penalty and neither of my laps counted, started 19th with #3 on the door!

Started on Mediums for 7 laps, FM2. Cane in for pit stop from P10 and had only 9% left on fuel! Got Softs on and set FM1 to go back in P15. Chased cars down and finished 10th!

Great clean battles throughout the race. Incredibly enjoyable race. I needed that

 

[Granadier]

Imagine if PD used World Tour style races for FIA instead of just cranking out insane tire wear combos.

 

[mr_jack]

Got a DR boost from D to C, thanks to Brands Hatch (people really like that track). Expected to see some better driving in C. Boy was I wrong.

Spa Manufacturer's race. Some poor fella lost it before the bus, and then remembered that he wanted to pit, and pushed it straight to pit, forgeting that he might need to pass some traffic. I got projected in the pit wall and lost time trying to get back (and not into pit), the guy got 3 sec penalty.

Once I got punted similarly, but on purpose...

 

[timekiller001]

That thumbnail makes me want to RRT4 livery my whole garage.

It was the same for me, did that with several cars

 

[das89ca]

Wow, I was thinking about choosing a less popular manufacturer for the official season - search no more. The 105 points won yesterday at Spa placed me on 33th place for Ferrari and there is not a big difference to reach top25.

I would assume that at least some good Italians will chose it, but probably that Gr.3 car is too much of a headache to control. I am also curious how it's gonna be in the Gr.3 races - I expect to get murdered...

 

[Zorz]

Wow, I was thinking about choosing a less popular manufacturer for the official season - search no more. The 105 points won yesterday at Spa placed me on 33th place for Ferrari and there is not a big difference to reach top25.

I would assume that at least some good Italians will chose it, but probably that Gr.3 car is too much of a headache to control. I am also curious how it's gonna be in the Gr.3 races - I expect to get murdered...

Can confirm, its not going to be pretty after fighting with it last season.

I had to go 4M-4M-4M at Suzuka when the popular strategies were 6M-6M or 4S-4S-4S because it just became too hard to drive once the tyres were even half worn.

Dragon Trail took 4 attempts to get one without binning it.

Catalunya was an immediate write-off because I started on the last bend and it immediately spun out and sent me into the pit lane when auto drive ended.

I didn't bother with Laguna Seca out of frustration.

Blue Moon Speedway was the only enjoyable race I had with it. Everything else was just stress.

Only advice I can give is set the brake balance all the way to the front and be ready to do a lot of throttle control to try to stop the back end from sliding. It absolutely shreds the rear tyres.

 

[JujUltraSG]

Can confirm, its not going to be pretty after fighting with it last season.

I had to go 4M-4M-4M at Suzuka when the popular strategies were 6M-6M or 4S-4S-4S because it just became too hard to drive once the tyres were even half worn.

Dragon Trail took 4 attempts to get one without binning it.

Catalunya was an immediate write-off because I started on the last bend and it immediately spun out and sent me into the pit lane when auto drive ended.

I didn't bother with Laguna Seca out of frustration.

Blue Moon Speedway was the only enjoyable race I had with it. Everything else was just stress.

Only advice I can give is set the brake balance all the way to the front and be ready to do a lot of throttle control to try to stop the back end from sliding. It absolutely shreds the rear tyres.

GR3 very to drive i agree. Maybe focus more on GR4 races, as it is a very good car.

@Zorz - Do you think putting TC to 1 would help? Have you tried?

 

[JujUltraSG]

1st race tonight I managed to get 5th in qualifying after finding a good driver to follow for the whole lap. Unfortunately the race didn't go as well, as when I tried to let a guy past at the end of the Kemmel straight, the guy behind him decided to go for it as well, knocking me off the track and causing himself to spin. I got a 4 second penalty and then just slowly drifted back through the field as my tyres melted.

2nd go, didn't quite get as good a qualifier so started 8th, but this time my path of non-interference worked. I just spent the whole race letting faster cars through and trying to stay out of trouble, which ended putting me in 6th on the last lap - desperately trying to hold onto the guys ahead with my used up mediums (5M pit 6M). The 2 guys ahead started to fight, which dropped us all back into the clutches of the guy behind and we basically had 4 cars going for the corner on the last chicane.

Amazingly I managed to come out relatively unscathed, and because of the weird penalty system randomly giving out penalties (If anyone can work out why he got a 4 second penalty then I will be impressed), I ended up 4th with 259 points

@Lost Sheltie Are you really asking why he got a penalty??? lol He destroyed him on the last corner lol
Well done on your race!

 

[das89ca]

Group 4 458 is a very sweet machine. For Group 3 I will try to use TC1 or 2(definitely 2 for Interlagos where the first corners are very tricky under brake). Will see what results I get during the preseason, if I have decent results in Group 3 I will resign for the official season. If not Citroen or Peugeot could be an option depending on the calendar.

 

[Lost Sheltie]

@Lost Sheltie Are you really asking why he got a penalty??? lol He destroyed him on the last corner lol
Well done on your race!

Yeah he got a 2 second penalty for the destruction of of the Lexus, but if you watch the video carefully he got a 4 second penalty for the slightest touch of my rear before getting to the corner. He didn't overtake me and I didn't run off the track or touch anybody else, so I have no idea why he got that penalty.

It was a very good race for me and the little VW. Spent the vast majority desperately trying to hold onto the slipstream of faster cars as my front tyres just died, so was hard work but very happy. Question now is can I repeat the miracle at Fuji. Answer is probably no.

 

[watto79]

Made a relatively last minute decision to sign with Jaguar. Having driven the last two seasons for Hyundai and Alfa Romeo, and the lack of strategy needed in Daily Race C's recently has meant I seemed to have forgotten how to conserve tyres and/or drive on very worn tyres. With the way the multipliers are heading I need to put in some practice with that.

My 1 lap pace in the F-Type at Spa wasn't bad and qualified 7th. Kinda went backwards from there in a fairly uneventful race until the last 2 laps. A VERY pushy Megane caught me up and kept barging past me at silly places. Essentially he'd push me out of the way before a long straight, which just meant I very easily kept re-taking the position. He was absolutely faster than me but they had no sense in when to time the overtake, or pass without contact.

Heading into the bus stop on the very last lap a group of us had bunched right up. Partly because the Megane and two others had gone 3 wide through that last left hander (after Blanchimont?). The pic below shows the drama. I actually backed out of it in the hope that it would all kick off spectacularly which didn't really pan out. I lost a position to the Merc and the Aston Martin was given an entirely unjustifiable 8 second penalty so gained that position. Finished 9th which felt about right for my ability, but was really close to 6th.

Jaguar does feel nice, I just need to get to grips with the handling on worn tyres.

 

[nuNce]

So I started my first FIA Manufacturer championship. I am B/S rated driver (15-16k points) and usually fare pretty good in the races managing a top 7 finish most of the time. After the Sydney event I picked BMW since I like the brand and I've seen it was competitive having won the race. To my huge disappointed I found out how slow am I with the M4 Gr.4. At Spa my fasted free practice time was 2.30.5 after a lot of laps. Just to compare I tried a lap in the Megane Trophy and on my first lap I managed a 2.26.5 without any special care.

Now, I'm sure I can improve my driving style to better fit the Beamer, but 4 seconds seem way too much to find. Did I just pick the wrong manufacturer?

 

[skyline1683]

After two seasons with McLaren and finishing in top ten I signed with the jag for a change literally 10 mins before the start of of the race was expecting a nightmare with no practice but I managed a 10th in qualifying and progressed up to 5th in the race only losing out in last corner to a sls dive bombing like a Muppet and I had to delay my turn in to avoid being wiped out by him so I settled for 6th and 199points not bad for no practice hopefully with more practice I can extract more from the car .

 

[juanito0585]

Left Hyundai and got a Ferrari for this pre season, mainly for a diferent taste.

Yesterday made only the second slot. I was in a pretty good qualy lap when the guy in front of me went wide exiting the last right hander after campus. So I drafted all the uphill and catched him at Blanchimont. As he was slower I went for a pass on the outside, he gave me almost no room and we slightly touched but both made it through the chicane with no big issues. I was awarded with a 1 sec penalty (not really deserved it)

Up to there it was all pretty normal, but I crossed the line and instead of having my time plus the penalty my status was "running" So I was left with no time. Have that ever happened to you before? Is it a new bug or something?

I started P18 and had a pretty good run to a P8, but still have this mixed feeling of knowing it could have been much better without the qualy issue.

So I started my first FIA Manufacturer championship. I am B/S rated driver (15-16k points) and usually fare pretty good in the races managing a top 7 finish most of the time. After the Sydney event I picked BMW since I like the brand and I've seen it was competitive having won the race. To my huge disappointed I found out how slow am I with the M4 Gr.4. At Spa my fasted free practice time was 2.30.5 after a lot of laps. Just to compare I tried a lap in the Megane Trophy and on my first lap I managed a 2.26.5 without any special care.

Now, I'm sure I can improve my driving style to better fit the Beamer, but 4 seconds seem way too much to find. Did I just pick the wrong manufacturer?

Very different cars there... The BMW weights a lot more than the Renault, so it tends to kill the tyres faster and even without tyre wear its a lot more tail happy. I think you probably need to get used to the car. In my opinion, the hard part of being fast in the beemer is exiting the corners with good traction, the engine is pretty good but some times is hard to put the power to the ground without getting a slide

Not sure if you are on TCS or not

 

[watto79]

Up to there it was all pretty normal, but I crossed the line and instead of having my time plus the penalty my status was "running" So I was left with no time. Have that ever happened to you before? Is it a new bug or something?

If you pick up a penalty in Qualifying it invalidates the lap you're on. That's not a bug, that's how its supposed to work.

 

[Odiesback]

Did I just pick the wrong manufacturer?

Like said in other reply, it is all about getting used to the car to maximize its strengths and get the most out of it.

My practice time in the M4 was 1:26.9 with TCS set to 0 and BB -4, and I’ve seen drivers in the low 24s. So the car is very capable but just like any other car, but it might require some extra practice time to fully get the results you expect.

 

[juanito0585]

If you pick up a penalty in Qualifying it invalidates the lap you're on. That's not a bug, that's how its supposed to work.

Thanks! I was not aware of that

 

[roamingbard13]

This is why I was so annoyed when I was setting a hot, hot lap when someone who had taken a penalty at Eau Rouge and ran wide at Pouhon cut back into the racing line in front of me last night to kill my lap. He ended up starting dead last (and would have either way). So silly.

The first race was pretty rough for me. As a result of the above mentioned transgressions, I qualified P14 in a half B/half C room. I had to work my way through the field several times because I kept getting punted after passing people. No tire saving or anything and it was miserable. I ended up finishing in 8th for 48 points at the end. I knew after qualifying that I would run a second race.

The second race was a full B room. I still got held up in qualifying a bit. I thought I gave myself some room, but I came around La Source, and sure enough there was someone a decent amount slower. I ran Eau Rouge full speed and he did not, and then I drafted him all the way in to Les Combes. I think that saved me as the rest of the lap was pretty slow. I was worried that if I tried to pass him, I'd lose more time than just being patient. I ended up qualifying 5th. I ran the first few laps jockeying up to P3, and then I got pushed off in Les Combes on the 3rd lap and I was down to 12th. I ended up working my way up to 6th, pitted to get my soft tires after 6 on the medium, and came out 12th and worked my way back up to P6 by the end of the race, with some really fun laps in the middle. I took 68 points which was more than the winner in the first race, so I guess it all worked out anyways.

The guy who won did so by a large margin, although my fastest lap was only a tenth off of his. Must be nice having clean air to work with, haha.

 

[nuNce]

Like said in other reply, it is all about getting used to the car to maximize its strengths and get the most out of it.

My practice time in the M4 was 1:26.9 with TCS set to 0 and BB -4, and I’ve seen drivers in the low 24s. So the car is very capable but just like any other car, but it might require some extra practice time to fully get the results you expect.

I followed your advice with BB and got under 2.29 after some practice. My issue is why can I easily get a 2.26 time on the Megane effortlessly? Here is a video with the two laps compared. I know there are mistakes at some points (missing apex or going wide at some turns) but even so they are on both runs so should cancel themselves. Any suggestions to match the M4 to the Megane time are welcome.

 

[CurbHog]

This season I'm back in the McLaren. Thanks to @OutlawQuadrnt and @Gyrza360 for the coaching on how to drive it !
I practiced a lot for this race but did not have super high expectations. Ended up in a lobbly with #5 on the door, and with a not so stellar qualifying time, I managed to get the second spot on the starting grid. We both started on Softs and the #3 and #4 was on Medium.
It was a great race with clean racing and I witnessed a great scrap in front of me that I have in the race edit.
This is GT Sport at its best. Enjoy it ! "McLaren is Back !"

 

[Keith2324]

This season I'm back in the McLaren. Thanks to @OutlawQuadrnt and @Gyrza360 for the coaching on how to drive it !
I practiced a lot for this race but did not have super high expectations. Ended up in a lobbly with #5 on the door, and with a not so stellar qualifying time, I managed to get the second spot on the starting grid. We both started on Softs and the #3 and #4 was on Medium.
It was a great race with clean racing and I witnessed a great scrap in front of me that I have in the race edit.
This is GT Sport at its best. Enjoy it ! "McLaren is Back !"

I was in that race with you. I didn't quite have the same luck. I was on my in lap and a gentleman decided he didn't quite like the way I was sitting at the bar and decided to push my stool in. He had the entire track to go around me as I gave him plenty of room. But I guess my rear end was just too irresistible.

 

[Odiesback]

I followed your advice with BB and got under 2.29 after some practice. My issue is why can I easily get a 2.26 time on the Megane effortlessly? Here is a video with the two laps compared. I know there are mistakes at some points (missing apex or going wide at some turns) but even so they are on both runs so should cancel themselves. Any suggestions to match the M4 to the Megane time are welcome.

I meant 2:26 not 1:26!!

Watched the video. First, keep in mind that the gear ratios for both cars are very different. Below is what I think it could assist you improve your time based on my runs.

1) for T1, use 2nd gear.

2) enter first chicane in 3rd gear, accelerating out to 4th. That way you can do the right hander flat out in 4th.

3) the following right hander stay in 3rd and to the right. Then up to 4th for the sharp left.

4) approach the long double left in 6th and downshift to 5th as you do the long arc flat out and then up to 6th as you exit it

5) enter and do the the “S” in 4th, including the sharp right turn, then up to 6th for the back course

6) the final chicane is all in 2nd gear,

No use of 1st gear as it kills your momentum.

Again, this how I do it and hope you might find useful.

 

[praiano63]

I'm a bit frustrated with the "winning at any cost" mentality that is dominating FIA events.
You have to descard 75% of the races to have the great pleasure to finish one giving and receiving some respect and spend a wonderfull moment .
The best races i remember , are sometime races i've lost.
I have to say also that i don't answer peacefully to an agression on track and i admit i'm very wrong when it happen.
Anyway , it ended a bad way yesterday but at least 99 % of the SPA race was great fun.
Here is a small resume.



Edit : my bad qualification was due to a guy that take my stream and gain more than a half second with this , pass me end of straight and low my pace a lot in the turns section.
They think they're smart doing this kind of things.

 

[Ashthebash]

The first race of the evening didn’t go so well in the big boy room. Everyone got bunched up in qualifying and shot themselves in the foot, including myself. Started P19 on Mediums and pitted on lap 6 for softs, finished P15 after 3 people quit.

Race 2 went much better. This time I made sure that I was nowhere near another car in Q, ran a 27.7 and ended up starting P6. I went with the same strategy in this race with one exception, I was trying to be easier on the tires, I absolutely killed both sets in the first race by trying to push too hard. It definitely helped, I had enough tire left at the end to push a bit on the last lap to pass another Jag driver who was clearly struggling with his tires by that point. I’m gonna take my points and run.

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I watched your qualifying for the first race - that chaos is the exact reason I ignore trying to get a tow in the Jag and just look for an empty piece of asphalt! I think it's too risky with these one-shot qualifying sessions, especially if you're in one of the quicker cars around the lap. I think the chance of getting held up somewhere is much higher than the chance of gaining a few tenths.

Just give me a piece of track to myself!!

 

[Jeeves_ACBC]

I was hopeful for Manufacturers in the NSX. Good on fuel, decent pace. Quali P5. Saved fuel in first stint which allowed me to catch P4. Me and Gumball had a nice battle to the end. I made an iffy pass into Rivage but he got by after I picked up 0.5s.

The clip is linked to the final lap. I made a tough pass stick and had to limp home with 0% fuel at the line to take P4.

 

[05XR8]

So many choices in the next Nations race. My best is a 22.045(21.891 optimum) in the Atenza. This one should be fun with any car. Short lap, big fast cars.

 

[JujUltraSG]

I watched your qualifying for the first race - that chaos is the exact reason I ignore trying to get a tow in the Jag and just look for an empty piece of asphalt! I think it's too risky with these one-shot qualifying sessions, especially if you're in one of the quicker cars around the lap. I think the chance of getting held up somewhere is much higher than the chance of gaining a few tenths.

Just give me a piece of track to myself!!

I do agree with you @Ashthebash / I see a lot of rage regarding Quali drama. I believe this is part of the game in a sense of if you wish to get slip stream of the player ahead of you (which is a huge advantage), you are exposed also to driver's mistake or penalty.

For me, it's a bit of a gamble, so I prefer to burn fuel and be on my own to avoid drama. I might be slower vs. Tow (or both Fuel burning + Tow) but with one flying lap (most of the time), it's not worth to take the risk (at least for me),

 

[Randall_Flagg]

I just started doing FIA races at the end of last year. I am in D lobbies so I'm not very good, but in the Nations race at Red Bull I got 12th and got 24 points. I guess because there were a few A drivers in the race the points were higher? Then I raced again in all D lobby and got 15th, and only 2 points. I didn't know that would erase the better score, I just thought they took the top one. It isn't very clear. Anyway that sucked but since I'll never be better I'll just take the first race next time! I follow Super GT and Kie on Youtube but I'd like to find some people who have more full tutorial stuff. Anyway go team Lexus.
PSN Jessd76

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

This was the best I could've done at Spa with being on the wrong end of OP slipstream and tire wear. Clean but intense battle with @RoadBeef on the last lap and having to dodge a car out of gas on top of it! Unfortunately, the Gr4 Nissan is going to be useless to score meaningful points so it's all on Gr3 performances.