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To add, fuel burn in 1st gear (not 2nd like I mentioned earlier) with half brake should get you to 70% tank after 1st outlap. And about 55-60% for qualifying lap.
 
milehighmadd
Ooh... I have it set to DR B / SR S. Not sure if you are that level. Sorry.

But if you search for track "Spa", car type "Gr.2", you should see it. Called "FIA Nations Rd 8".
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I have found it now. Sorry, I am not very good at this. Finding new buttons all the time :p
 
After some advice from milehighmadd I turned my TCS to 1 and my ABS to default (I guess that is 0 in this game). I could handle no ABS fine (which I have never been able to do in any other Gran Turismo game in the last 15 years) but I was worse than useless with little TCS.
I even tried the low TCS on my gr.3 car and I was totally FUBAR.
Atleast I know I can run with the ABS default settings now.
I had a bit of a chat to mileHIGH online and I appreciate the advice. Everyone in here is cool with me. My situation is very unique. I have been playing Gran Turismo for over 15 years. I have done a few endurance races on GT4 and I only just bought a ps3 last year so I could try gt5 and GT6. The extra money I got from the Government recently with this virus thing meant that I could splurge on a ps4 and see what all this online racing is about.
My driving skills have slightly decreased since I was younger due to a rare brain condition (Moderate Cerebellar Atrophy) which has meant that I cannot improve my motor skills at my age. I am not impacted lots by my condition but it is very frustrating that I can't get to a higher level of driving.
I think I will concentrate on the gr.4 race at Dragons Trail Gardens coming up. I mess up lots less with those cars and I enjoy being in the midfield. If I get punted or if I accidentally punt someone else I can just put it down to bad luck as I enjoy other races usually.
Thanks for being so cool with me :)
 
Looking forward to spa race today, since it should be a good combo for me. I ll try the strategy in a lobby but this time seems pretty basic 6h 4m.
Only problem is I m on the verge of becoming A and I keep being matched with Dr a driver in dailies, which is obviously affecting my results, that should t happen in FIA races right?
 
UjiOgami15
Looking forward to spa race today, since it should be a good combo for me. I ll try the strategy in a lobby but this time seems pretty basic 6h 4m.
Only problem is I m on the verge of becoming A and I keep being matched with Dr a driver in dailies, which is obviously affecting my results, that should t happen in FIA races right?
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@Mistah_MCA seemed to be leaning towards start on RM and go as long as you can before pitting. Might get 6 laps out of them. Then you have RH on less weight to finish. RH are pretty stable for this combo.
 
milehighmadd
@Mistah_MCA seemed to be leaning towards start on RM and go as long as you can before pitting. Might get 6 laps out of them. Then you have RH on less weight to finish. RH are pretty stable for this combo.
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If you start in the front or middle, start on RM. Without slipstream, I can do 6 laps. If I'm always under it: most likely 5.

If you start in the back, you can think about starting on RH. When you start your second stint on RM, you'll get faster times due to less fuel, which can help a bit more with catching up to those who are now on RH tires. Of course, this applies to everyone when on stint 2, but it's still something to think about...

EDIT: I keep forgetting that this is a grid start. I think it matters a bit less if you start on RM in the back, since you're all bunched up together. And with the first turn being a hairpin... It's theoretically possible for someone in last to watch everyone punt each other on turn 1, and gain a ton of positions. :lol: I'm overthinking at this point.
 
Thanks for the tip, although with these cars I struggle to put down a fast lap until I'm in the zone...so I may need the warm up lap to get comfortable. I'm not a good qualifier though...but perhaps because I haven't learned these tricks.

I did some practice last night in the '08 NSX at Spa. In practice mode I got a 2:08 I think. In a lobby I was around low 2:10 at best on RM with a few 2:09s and solid 2:12 when on RH. If I push for faster sectors I usually put a wheel off and spin out but I could probably follow faster drivers around the track and get some quicker times.

We did a practice race. Starting on the RM launched me from 4th on the grid to a solid gap by Eau Rouge that no one could draft. If you're anywhere near the front, you are not going to want to start on RH. Back rows, dunno, maybe.

Anyway, given the gap, I opted to short shift every gear to see how much fuel I could save, shifting at the middle of the indicator but revving 6th gear out past that to hit my top speed. I maintained a 3 second gap for 3 laps but got sloppy on the 4th lap of RMs and it dropped to 1 second. I pitted, didn't take fuel, came out 4 seconds behind 2nd who hadn't pitted yet. Got that down to about 3 second gap, still short shifting. He pitted on lap 8. Then I was 4.5 seconds ahead but running seriously low on fuel. The last lap I gave up the whole gap in an effort to save fuel, coasting into the final chicane, and then ran out of fuel trying to get the the finish line. I think I'm just going to add some amount of fuel at the pit stop.

I'm also not sold on the '08 NSX. I loved it in GT5/GT6 and it was always my go-to GT500 car but I was able to tune it for the races I was doing. I quickly figured out in GTS I had to move brake balance to the front or the car became uncontrollable after 2 laps, failing to hold a line while coasting. I think ABS was on or too strong, and I have to switch that off and try again because my braking points were much sooner than any of the fast laps I watched and I when I looked down at the indicator there was a lot of red bar diving into the final chicane.
 
Went on a free run to test a no stopper, and while the time is ok, it would be reasonably competitive in a race situation, starting on hard tyres is going to be a world of pain. Because I wanted quite an 'authentic' run, I pulled out the pits, fm6, and tootled around to the grid in mostly 6th gear, trying to use as little fuel as possible. While this saves the fuel, it cools the tyres. So I got ready for my 'grid' start, got away well then no brakes or turning for La Source, got it on track, head down the hill towards Eau Rouge and... off, just had zero grip. Could take this into account heading into Les Combes and slow it down enough to stay on the black stuff, but in a race? You're gonna get heroes throwing it up the inside not knowing or caring how much you're struggling for grip.

Fair play to anyone who starts on hards, it makes sense because H-M is the quickest way around, - but I won't be one of them!!
 
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Why do people still refer to the whole uphill/entire turn 2 section of this track as Eau Rouge. Eau Rouge is the first little left hander before you start going up. This corner continued left, on the original track, and disappeared into the forest. The original track rejoined somewhere on the Kemmel straight after the hill.
A few years later a short link was added, joining the bottom of the hill to the Kemmel straight at the top. This was called the Radillion link!
Some people drop the name Eau Rouge all together and just use the name Radillion, but this is not right either.
 
Peddler13
Why do people still refer to the whole uphill/entire turn 2 section of this track as Eau Rouge. Eau Rouge is the first little left hander before you start going up. This corner continued left, on the original track, and disappeared into the forest. The original track rejoined somewhere on the Kemmel straight after the hill.
A few years later a short link was added, joining the bottom of the hill to the Kemmel straight at the top. This was called the Radillion link!
Some people drop the name Eau Rouge all together and just use the name Radillion, but this is not right either.
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Well I don't name the name of any turn, curve, straight or chicane of any race track so take that.
 
Did a practice race at spa and feel pretty confident (although I was given a penalty on last lap at... Radillon) . Medium can definitely do more than 4 laps. Now my only doubt is which tire using first, but hard are not that bad either.
 
I just figured out why I am not a fast driver. If a racing team was a band, the driver would be the drummer! :p
Semantics, I know. Yes, it doesn't really matter. To me, though, it is like still believing that the world is flat even after knowing everything we now know with all the new information that has come to light in the last few hundred years.
I can see how holding on to a long held premise is important.
I would hate to lose the name Eau Rouge altogether.
 
My what is that heavenly scent?



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Available at your local Spa.

;)
 
I'm just hoping for less frustration and downright fury eminating from every pore this weekend after the past week's experiences!:nervous:

Belated round-up, in video form...

Nations

N. America

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Qualified on Pole, then this happened:
Taken out a minute into Lap 1. his 'excuse'after the race? "Bad controller", whatever that means. No apology. It was a virtual triumph to climb backk to P4.

Slot 3:

The video seems to have the wrong clip at the beginning somehow:


Slot5:

Etiquette was rapidly becoming a dirty word by this point:


Manu

EMEA

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Starting P19, and about to finish no lower than P4 I get spun out approaching the final corner and then the car refuses to point in the right direction, leaving me to finish in P13. Absolutely fuming!🤬

Slot 3:

More disturbing behaviour.
 
Peddler13
Why do people still refer to the whole uphill/entire turn 2 section of this track as Eau Rouge. Eau Rouge is the first little left hander before you start going up. This corner continued left, on the original track, and disappeared into the forest. The original track rejoined somewhere on the Kemmel straight after the hill.
A few years later a short link was added, joining the bottom of the hill to the Kemmel straight at the top. This was called the Radillion link!
Some people drop the name Eau Rouge all together and just use the name Radillion, but this is not right either.
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Named after a stream isn't it? That's in the area where the corner is and the banks of the stream are red (Eau Rouge - Red Water), I had a **** near there in 2015! The left over the crest of the hill is Raidillon, the dip down left and right hander is (now) Eau Rouge. It is fair to say they go together though and I have no issue if people class Raidillon as part of Eau Rouge, let's be fair, most people who get Raidillon wrong do so because they've got Eau Rouge wrong.

I wouldn't mind seeing some old versions of tracks though, Spa would be one. The old version had the corner Jackie Stewart reckoned was the hardest corner in the world (Masta Kink), but in modern cars some of these corners - like Eau Rouge - are nowhere near as daunting as they once were

Maybe need to take the F1500T around :nervous::boggled:
 
Sorry about so many consecutive posts - I'll try to keep up!

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Seriously? P5 to P19 through no fault of my own at Turn 1 and a 5s penalty for my troubles, whilst the perpetrator gets away with it, scot-free?🤬

The overall theme of the last few days' racing has been struggle to qualify, fight hard for positions, be smashed or spun off the track, fight to climb back through the field and be taken out before you can get the result at the end.:mad:

Sometimes this game can be a lot of fun. Other times...
 
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Peddler13
Unfortunately, this seems to be the theme of online racing and the direction Gran Turismo Sport in general (on a subconscious level). *use every little glitch/etc to your advantage*
Maybe the cars should have guns on them, like star wars or something. Lol, I see this as a bit like pod/speeder racing :p
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A lotta folks lately experiencing this. Especially if you consider it a glitch that you can dive with no corner rights disrupt the path of a car on the racing line, overtake and get only a small pen if any...
I’m really starting agree more with the people calling for heavy damage.
 
Groundfish
I’m really starting agree more with the people calling for heavy damage.
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I've actually been thinking of a different approach. Not a realistic one (but then we all know this isn't truly a sim): If, in a defined braking zone (by all means, mark it with virtual and non-movable cones or boards/track markings), one car forces another off the track with a certain percentage speed differential, the two cars' positions are automatically swapped, i.e the offender finds itself off the track with a time penalty, whilst the victim gets the advantage of staying on track and at least more or less keeping the position it had (and certainly what the offending car would have had). The car would ghost for a couple of seconds to make sure it didn't take out another car in the process.

That idea would need refined like any penalty (such as defining whether the victim was actually brake-checking), but could be made to work. Perfect? Probably not, but what penalty that PD has come up with so far has been?
 
TeddyWestside
I've actually been thinking of a different approach. Not a realistic one (but then we all know this isn't truly a sim): If, in a defined braking zone (by all means, mark it with virtual and non-movable cones or boards/track markings), one car forces another off the track with a certain percentage speed differential, the two cars' positions are automatically swapped, i.e the offender finds itself off the track with a time penalty, whilst the victim gets the advantage of staying on track and at least more or less keeping the position it had (and certainly what the offending car would have had). The car would ghost for a couple of seconds to make sure it didn't take out another car in the process.

That idea would need refined like any penalty (such as defining whether the victim was actually brake-checking), but could be made to work. Perfect? Probably not, but what penalty that PD has come up with so far has been?
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I was just discussing this. Imo the problem is the scoring system incentivizes diving in there.
They can detect contact and make sr down, in one race sr down beyond some threshold? No dr gain, just take those points and give them to the other players who drove clean enough.
Sr falls below a certain threshold? No dr for you until gaining sr back.
Scoring tweaks could help by not encouraging shoving by.
Make it so contact too much prevents score gain.
The current scoring creates dumpster divers imo.
Jmo, and I’m not hotshot, but I can do ok on certain tracks, all I want is less shoving diving sideswiping and punting. It hurts my sr when I lose it and dispatch some cretin..I don’t like the races when they get like that.
I’ve had so many bad experiences lately in FIA it’s not worth it to put time into practice or enter tbh.
More chance of wreck fest than fair fight at say 40-50k dr on NA server.
 
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Well, things happen for a reason
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Someone ruined mine and the car that started in P17, qualy. Instead of running behind and either making a gap or just following, that player decides to try overtaking down the straight.

I was a bit behind, but had fine pace. I then had to slow up because the two collided. The perp went off and I just stayed behind the other player. I qualified on RH and they seemed to be the faster tyre for me.

Anyway, here's how the start went.


The cars that recovered from the back, just barged past me as I was slowing for a group of cars on Lap 2. I pit end of lap 6 for Edit:RM and a splash of fuel. P8 gave me a bump draft in the last lap to get ahead of P9. Thanked him for that after the race.

Main thing I took from this is, qualy alone. One and done.
 
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The Only Gr.2 in my FIA is the GT-R 16', time triall isn't bad(2.05.6xx) but it just doesn't work in race.
Tried 3 attempts, the best being 10th with 124 points.

The 08 cars are way OP here, they seems better for grid start and with insane straight line speed it's not overtakable even with slipstream.:(
 
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