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Yea, I’ve been reflecting on that all day and I see what you mean. I thought I had corner rights since I passed the apex first, and last lap nerves got the better of me. I’ll work on cleaner driving.

I think we can all work at our techniques. Some more than others but what better environment to do it than online. Imagine the consequences if we tried some of the things we do if we did it irl!
I think most people have the correct mentality when it comes to racing beside others, it is only the skills that need practice :)
 
At times yes, and it worked for him. Meanwhile, I got no benefit from the slip stream. Watch below at 16:33 as I make almost no gain on the driver ahead who isn't tailing anyone. In a spec car, I would have had at least some overlap.


I don't have video of all the races this season, but it seems like any Gr.4 race is not favorable for Mazda. The Gr.3 car seems more balanced and I felt more in the mix at Fuji and Autopolis. Next event is Laguna Seca in the Gr.4. I know the track well but if drivers can get to my bumper easier than I can get to theirs, I fear I'm just going to fall backward and only pick up places when others end up in the sand traps.


I have been driving the Laguna Seca track for over 15 years and it still catches me out (especially the not so straight pit straight if I am not paying attention).
I am stuck with a WRX but I don't mind, gives me more to gain. If I had a fast car it would give me more to lose!
 

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This is the problem. @senzr made a fair move. The reason racing etiquette gets fouled up and confused in video games is this idea that no matter what leave space. That’s bs. If a person has no right to that space occupying said space is their mistake!
IF they have a right to that space you must fairly leave racing room.
Otherwise just dive every time and slam on the brakes.
I think etiquette is very important. I go outta my way to race fair on gts.
After hundreds of races not rear ending people or making ridiculous lunges I get mad when people do those moronic arcade. behaviors.
It pains me almost as much to see others label a move that’s nose even to nose prior to turn in and then say the driver doing that’s dirty because he exited the corner he fairly won correctly...on the final turn...of his race.
I see it as bullying.
It’s the pass it on thing also, misinformation passes on.
 
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I don't congratulate people on a pass when the person they are passing ends up off the track...that's just my thing. Agree to disagree I suppose. See you on the track!

Agree to disagree definitely.
Nothing wrong with fairly winning the inside last turn of a race. It’s ok you don’t have to slow down because the driver behind is flooring it round the outside with no hope of staying on track. :)

I think we can all work at our techniques. Some more than others but what better environment to do it than online. Imagine the consequences if we tried some of the things we do if we did it irl!
I think most people have the correct mentality when it comes to racing beside others, it is only the skills that need practice :)

Thank you for your thoughts! As I sit in my imaginary pit garage with my imaginary sponsors breathing down my neck, I imagine this is what the imaginary race stewards would be debating on their way to delivering an imaginary verdict on my last lap last corner (mis)adventure :lol:

That was one of the most exciting finishes for me in my entire GT Sport career. For the record, I'm a B/S driver, and I've maintained S SR for at least 70% of the time. So I take critiques on my race craft pretty seriously. I'm always trying to improve, and I make efforts to be clean. But like most people, I think I'm cleaner in my head than I really am. That's confirmation bias for you...but I try to be open to when I could be wrong.

I've certainly been thinking about my last lap last corner incident, and you both raise very good points. In the heat of the moment, I had the draft, outbraked the Mazda into the 2nd last corner when the door was open, and pulled ahead into the final apex, beating him to it, and I felt that gave me corner rights. I felt the Mazda should've known the final corner was lost and yielded. To be fair, he did leave me a gap, and I took it (Senna quote and all :lol:). But I do understand that it's more polite to leave some room for the overtaken to stay on track. He was on edge as well, because the Megane behind both of us was looking for a way through our little duel!

In my own conclusion after reflecting, both of you were right. I could've left more room, and he could've yielded sooner.

I do love the GT Planet community for the healthy debate, I'm always learning so much. I'll work on improving my race craft for the next race!

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Hi everybody! Yesterday I did some practice on RBR, tried few cars(4). Started with 908, 1,17.1xx, just no... Next TS030, much better 1,16.7xx? I looked on friends times list, some R18s and TS050... Ok I try Audi. 1,16.050 Im not satisfied, only 4th place:) Time to TS050, after few laps I finnaly brake 1,16 barrier, 1,15.6xx? So I think toyota would be best choice, only thing Im concerned with is that almost every corner tyres were screaming: nooo nooo;) It could be problem in the race, gow many laps I can run this pace before I kill tyres? Sad thing is today I must visit my dentist on 17:00, she got some work to do... I hope she do it fast and I can join 18:00 race:) It will be funny racing with paralyzed face:D
 
I think the top times at RBR free practice were set on Racing Soft, before they fixed the tyre spec mistake? But RS can’t be selected anymore. So for actual qualifying, will we only be able to run Racing Medium?
 
I think the top times at RBR free practice were set on Racing Soft, before they fixed the tyre spec mistake? But RS can’t be selected anymore. So for actual qualifying, will we only be able to run Racing Medium?
So when they change it? Yesterday evening I use softs...
 
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FL was 1:16.024. My FL was 1:18.1. Crossed the line in 17th, but only used RS all race. Loved pulling away in mid-range acceleration and pulling up to players' rear bumpers.

Anyway, only about two R18s and one Peugeot VGT. All the rest were TS050s.
 
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FL was 1:16.024. My FL was 1:18.1. Crossed the line in 17th, but only used RS all race. Loved pulling away in mid-range acceleration and pulling up to players' rear bumpers.

Anyway, only about two R18s and one Peugeot VGT. All the rest were TS050s.
Aaah Im confused now, so are softs allowed or not?!
And do you get 20s penalty for using only one compound?
 
How'd everyone go on strategy? I started lower half of the field on hards, went to lap 6, mediums to 15, then softs. Found I had great pace on mediums to the rest of the field can was scorching home on the softs, FL etc. I can't help but think there might be time/track position lost 2 stopping, rather than going longer on the hards and 1 stopping to mediums.
 
Hope the group 1 race was fun.

Here is my race from the Dragon Trail Gardens gr4. I got to S SR rating, Got to a B in my DR but have dropped to a D now. I have only been on Gtsport for 2 weeks now. I never intend to drive dirty or get revenge or anything but I can't control my poor driving sometimes. I never apologise, when it comes to racing, because I never do anything intentionally

 
Well, *That's racing.".

Held first place for one turn, after P1 spun exiting T1. I was able to jump to second due to a different car, in P2, pitting earlier.
Served my penalty and got jumped by P1&P2.

The one stop, starting on RM, paid off. Was able to keep pace with a couple in the top 5, that started on Softs.

Ran to end of lap 9 and the rest was just stay on the tarmac.
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I never apologise, when it comes to racing, because I never do anything intentionally
I do that the exact opposite way. If I do something out of accident I am doing my best to apologize, and give the spot back.
If I punt someone on purpose (it happens, even though I try not to, but sometimes it's just so hard to take it without retaliation) I never apologize.
If someone ran into me,ran me wide and didn't apologize I will assume it was on purpose.
 
Thank you, so nothing changed...
@senzr where did you get info that softs are not availabke anymore?

When I tried to select soft in free practice, I couldn’t. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding! And yea, I think I mixed it up with the tyre requirements for the Dailies which had some mistakes in the race details.
 
When I tried to select soft in free practice, I couldn’t. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding! And yea, I think I mixed it up with the tyre requirements for the Dailies which had some mistakes in the race details.
Did you try to select softs for the rear first? Weird quirk of the game since they patched the hybrid tyre loophole is you need to change the fronts first when in the settings screen
 
I never intend to drive dirty or get revenge or anything but I can't control my poor driving sometimes. I never apologize, when it comes to racing, because I never do anything intentionally




Just because you didn’t mess up or mess someone else up one purpose, doesn’t mean it wasn’t your fault, an apology goes a loooong way to not having that person run you off the track in the next race your in with them. Don’t be so ignorant man, be a man, admit your mistakes, apologize for them and more importantly, Learn from them.
 
If people want to exact revenge, especially over a long period of time, it just shows how sad and childish humanity is. It is a bit like assuming guilt until innocence is proven.
I identify the mistakes I make, and try to learn from them.
 
I get the feeling qualifying for today's nation race is going to be a complete mess. Put in a good few laps to get myself up to speed with the track and car. At normal pace there isn't enough charge at the start of each lap so I'm cruising to get full charge, doing a hot lap then recharge lap. Pretty sure I won't be the only one to have noticed this.
 
Says the guys who “never apologizes”. :lol:

Context is everything.
Most disagreements occur due to a small misunderstanding. :p
Maybe I meant that I never apologise to myself as I never intend to make mistakes or get revenge, etc. I always try to identify the mistakes I have made and try to learn from them and not make the same mistake again but I won't berate myself if I do it again.

In the video I posted, I point out an incident on lap 3 or 4 I think. I was side by side with a Corvette as we went into the left kink after the tight hairpin (turn 4 I think). I went a bit too shallow, trying to leave racing room. I went so shallow that I cut the corner, earnt a penalty, and ran into him in the exit anyway. This is a silly rookie error in my opinion and I hope to learn from it. I wouldn't seek him out but I probably would say sorry if I was taking to him after. I wouldn't apologise in the hope that he would not get me back, so to speak. If he done that to me I would not call him names or anything, I would just see it as a racing incident and get on with it.
 
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If people want to exact revenge, especially over a long period of time, it just shows how sad and childish humanity is. It is a bit like assuming guilt until innocence is proven.
I identify the mistakes I make, and try to learn from them.

Maybe also "identify" the mistake for the person who was screwed over by it and likely has no idea he was raced in such a way. Typically apologizing identifies and explains it fairly simply.
 
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