FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Trone_Colby]

I ran Manu. I qualified P16 and finished P8. Majority of the position climb is from From people making mistakes at T2.

I barely dodged this incident

 

[KosmoKazi]

Random: I’ve seen it discussed before: how is it determined who heads out of pit boxes first, when a qualifying session starts?

It doesn’t seem based on DR rank, that seems clear.

I have a theory: based on Free Practice times. I’ve noticed that I’m more often allowed out first when racing my alt, where I likely have a top FP time compared to the field.

Something to think about as the drafting dynamics have changed yet again.

 

[Kermit_2142]

Random: I’ve seen it discussed before: how is it determined who heads out of pit boxes first, when a qualifying session starts?

It doesn’t seem based on DR rank, that seems clear.

I have a theory: based on Free Practice times. I’ve noticed that I’m more often allowed out first when racing my alt, where I likely have a top FP time compared to the field.

Something to think about as the drafting dynamics have changed yet again.

I thought your assigned a box closer to the exit the better dr you have but whoever leaves first is the person who has the best connection & hits the accelerator first.

edit : if you don’t want to leave first just don’t press the accelerator, you can sit there all session if you want.

 

[stpatty]

Loving the top time on the EMEA leaderboard for Manu right now.

 

[Jwptexas]

Manufacturer slot 1

I was hoping to be one and done this race but for some reason I had forgotten how to qualify and rolled off the grid 16th with a 1:07.7xx decided to start on the hard tires for two laps than pit again at lap 16. The strategy worked well I was just too far back, too much traffic. Finished 6th. It was good seeing some GTP members @CJam & @Master Weasel

Manufacturer Slot 2

Entered 19:10 slot after missing out on the T16, figured as much.

Get into the lobby and see some familiar names, couple of other Ford drivers including my rival. Qualifying was just a back and fourth battle between the two Ford GTs I rolled off the line 2nd this race .100 off the other GT with 1:07.2xx

Lap 2, I went for the pass into T1 and made it stick then preceded to pull away from the field over the next several of laps building up a three second gap.

Everything was looking great until my back right tire clips the grass into T2 and I slam into the wall managed to hang onto first until the next lap when I clip the grass AGAIN same damn spot going into the wall once more. Got caught back in some traffic and had to fight my way back, down as low as 7th at one point in the race. Wrecking the GT twice wrecked my tires so I pit really early. Ended up finishing the race in 3rd for 185 points behind my rival Ford driver. Decided to call it a day since that score erased my highest score from the first stage, right outside of the top 140 at 141 currently.

Onto Brands Hatch & Spa for me!

 

[KosmoKazi]

It's amazing how close the competition is even at this late stage in the FIAGTC...

My bobble in the Nations race yesterday, which probably cost me a podium 3rd compared to the nice 5th: cost me the chance to jump up a spot in the Michigan order, keeping me in 8th, while I am digging to get to 6th before it's over (jumping past my pal Killroy).

The punting in the Manufacturer's race cost me as many as seven spots in the Porsche driver standings, which I could have gained if I finished in the likely 8th place I could have had by just following @Lewmatic home and taking in the points I'd targeted for that race. Trying to get into top 50 for Porsche by the end of the season.

Both would have been best positions for me in the standings for the season, but as things played out, didn't move up.

You'd think that it would be more or less sorted out after 24 races, but nope... still a lot of points to grab and places to move up to.

 

[Jwptexas]

It's amazing how close the competition is even at this late stage in the FIAGTC...

My bobble in the Nations race yesterday, which probably cost me a podium 3rd compared to the nice 5th: cost me the chance to jump up a spot in the Michigan order, keeping me in 8th, while I am digging to get to 6th before it's over (jumping my pal Killroy).

The punting in the Manufacturer's race cost me as many as seven spots in the Porsche driver standings, which I could have gained if I finished in the likely 8th place I could have had by just following @Lewmatic home and taking in the points I'd targeted for that race. Trying to get into top 50 for Porsche by the end of the season.

Both would have been best positions for me in the standings for the season, but as things played out, didn't move up.

You'd think that it would be more or less sorted out after 24 races, but nope... still a lot of points to grab and places to move up to.

I can only imagine how closely contested the battle for Porsche is. I know it's still a close race 4th thru 7th in Ford. The top 2 guys are currently having a great battle as well Grove & Sinister.

 

[MIE1992]

I had some possible strategies for the next race in each FIAGTC, and I wanted some feedback:

R32 @ Autopolis - Thinking of no-stopping on hards, especially given the fuel consumption rate. I also don't know if it was just me mis-remembering things, but I vaguely recall the entrance to the pit lane being a bit of a bother, too. Or maybe I'm thinking of another course.

Gr.4 @ Brands Hatch - I was considering doing 10H/8M, but what do you think? The tire wear will be slightly less than the race at Blue Moon Bay (5x at BMB vs. 4x at Brands), and I felt like I was able to do half-and-half there more or less fine. Alternatively, I could just do 9H/9M, with the mediums potentially lasting a bit longer given the lower tire wear rate for this round.

Also, I wanna say that even though I was downgraded after Round 24 for both FIAGTCs, (as they count your best six rounds at this point) and probably lost a few hundred DR at BMB last night, I still definitely had fun. And I'll likely make my DR back in the daily races, anyway - next week's races look genuinely interesting again, and I could use today to get some more DR at Race A, considering my time is in the top 300 for my region.

 

[JEverettL]

Decided to buck the trend in my Nations DR. B lobby last night and go with the GR. 4 Supra instead of the TT. Did I win? Oh absolutely not, came in my usual 13 place in Nations but it was stupid amounts of fun!

 

[brianloch]

Gr.4 @ Brands Hatch - I was considering doing 10H/8M, but what do you think? The tire wear will be slightly less than the race at Blue Moon Bay (5x at BMB vs. 4x at Brands), and I felt like I was able to do half-and-half there more or less fine. Alternatively, I could just do 9H/9M, with the mediums potentially lasting a bit longer given the lower tire wear rate for this round.

I practised a bit today with fuel and tyrewear doubled FIA settings as I'm not going to have time to practice later this week. I reckon 12/13 Soft, then medium and 1H should work in 650S. The pit stop shouldn't be an issue but traffic is.

Always like Brands Hatch but the Gr4 650S is exceptionally fun to drive around this track, especially comparing to the Gr3 counterpart which I couldn't put any power on curbs in last FIA race there.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Welp. Looking like I'm just going to miss out being a Top 12 Manu for the third year in a row. Too many reasons to list but this one is particularly painful for how so many things have gone wrong that wasn't in my direct control. Even if it didn't count for anything, I just wanted to succeed once. I'll keep trying but I don't have much motivation at this point. 👎

 

[SweatyC]

Who are these Makozi imposters going around

Nik, Lik and Pik...they’re multiplying! Haven’t come across Dik yet

 

[Redneckchef]

Nik, Lik and Pik...they’re multiplying! Haven’t come across Dik yet

Dont worry guys, it's all Akademik!

 

[SpeedStarGTS]

Qualifying was so close although I started 18th i knew i can make place if i play my card just right but, oh boy it we were on Fire

Charging to the front @ Blue Moon Bay Infield


(sry no sound, mess up the recording and i run out save on GT Sport couldn't grab the replay -_-)

 

[05XR8]

I had some possible strategies for the next race in each FIAGTC, and I wanted some feedback:

R32 @ Autopolis - Thinking of no-stopping on hards, especially given the fuel consumption rate. I also don't know if it was just me mis-remembering things, but I vaguely recall the entrance to the pit lane being a bit of a bother, too. Or maybe I'm thinking of another course.

Gr.4 @ Brands Hatch - I was considering doing 10H/8M, but what do you think? The tire wear will be slightly less than the race at Blue Moon Bay (5x at BMB vs. 4x at Brands), and I felt like I was able to do half-and-half there more or less fine. Alternatively, I could just do 9H/9M, with the mediums potentially lasting a bit longer given the lower tire wear rate for this round.

Also, I wanna say that even though I was downgraded after Round 24 for both FIAGTCs, (as they count your best six rounds at this point) and probably lost a few hundred DR at BMB last night, I still definitely had fun. And I'll likely make my DR back in the daily races, anyway - next week's races look genuinely interesting again, and I could use today to get some more DR at Race A, considering my time is in the top 300 for my region.

Mannnn, flat out at Autopolis! I'm going all out. It's too much fun. I wish the suspension was stiffer, but it's crazy jumping into a Gr.4 at BH, right after running also at Autopolis. I was braking wayyyy early for every corner at BH.

Brands Hatch is going to be a crap shoot. Scirocco is good. I loaded the ghost from the top RC F and it pulls me at the second straight. I catch back up in the turns and it pulls me again from the final turn. My optimum placed me in P7, but I was P9. Then bumped down to P10 last night.
I feel a switch to Chevy or AMG.

 

[schnick]

Ran my own race in nations top 16, finally got a reasonable result after a couple of disappointing nations races, the midpack didn't seem to be able to manage the tyre wear very well even though they had decent time trial times, again I saved a little too much fuel but I wouldn't have made up any more places

Didn't make the cutoff for manufacturer top 16, starting to regret gambling away my points from the n24 top 16 race

 

[KosmoKazi]

That next race with the Nissans at Autopolis seems like it's going to be a fun one, after some practice! With those racing slicks on... just turn off the TCS and MASH IT!

With the big turbo, it's important to keep some throttle on in the turns, to keep it spooled up and ready for the exit. The car really doesn't like throttle modulation at all... best to approach every corner with a plan an stick to it!

If I didn't know any better, I'd say the Nissan engineers were obsessed with Porsches... it drives as I imagine a Porsche Turbo of the day would have.

Speaking of Porsche, after some practice laps at Brands Hatch, I'm afraid I'm behind the 8 ball for the Manufacturer's Series race there... am about a second off the pace I expect I need, and not sure where to get it, at least not repeatably. Maybe it will even out a bit with the strategy and tire wear... I feel comfortable there, but the Cayman GT4 drives quite a bit different from the Gr3 RSR.

And it's a good thing that these two races are not back-to-back... going directly from the nearly 30 year old production car, with slow steering, road car brakes, and squishy suspension to the Gr4 car with razor-sharp steering and massive racing brakes makes for a real challenge. I was apexing onto the infield for the first three or four laps of practice when I went from the Nations race practice to the Manufacturers.

edit: funny, I just saw @05XR8 post... same!

 

[Ashthebash]

Mannnn, flat out at Autopolis! I'm going all out. It's too much fun. I wish the suspension was stiffer,

Nah!! It's reminiscent of the original Gran Turismo. Buy a second hand Skyline, slap the biggest turbo possible on it, use all your remaining credits on the best tyres you can afford then go and race the thing to get the rest of the credits you need to make the car driveable!

 

[GTWolverine]

Well, it looks like the stupid penalty update actually didn't ruin too many people's races this weekend, which probably means it's here to stay...

Also, with slipstream range now at less than 0.8s (I tried it in Daily Race C, and it seemed like you had to be closer to 0.7s for it to really kick in), and bump-drafting effectively banned, all it's gonna take is a single "big one" (in NASCAR speak) for the Route X race to become a runaway at the front. Also I'm not sure how effective the slingshot will be when you have to be so close to the car in front to even pick up a draft and therefore have no time to build up momentum to shoot past them.

Also, how likely do you think it is that the cars they picked for this race will already be at or near redline at top speed even without the slipstream, making the entire race a 10-wide, 200+ mph parade...

 

[Pigems]

Well, it looks like the stupid penalty update actually didn't ruin too many people's races this weekend, which probably means it's here to stay...

Also, with slipstream range now at less than 0.8s (I tried it in Daily Race C, and it seemed like you had to be closer to 0.7s for it to really kick in), and bump-drafting effectively banned, all it's gonna take is a single "big one" (in NASCAR speak) for the Route X race to become a runaway at the front. Also I'm not sure how effective the slingshot will be when you have to be so close to the car in front to even pick up a draft and therefore have no time to build up momentum to shoot past them.

Also, how likely do you think it is that the cars they picked for this race will already be at or near redline at top speed even without the slipstream, making the entire race a 10-wide, 200+ mph parade...

Let’s do it!

 

[Groundfish]

#boycottssx

 

[Pigems]

#boycottssx

No no no, if we don’t race, what will happen to all of the poor Memes?

 

[KosmoKazi]

A few thoughts on the remaining FIAGTC races:

Nations

• the '94 Skyline GTR race at Autopolis seems like it's going to be a fun one, for me. I like the variety and it's like that track was made for that car.
• I also like the idea of the Scirocco Cup race at Suzuka, that's going to be a close one, though and hard fought for every position. I hope the new penalties situation doesn't ruin it.
• There's got to be a catch with the SSRX N800 race, right?!
• Another endurance race at DTS, with high tire wear multiplier in Gr3, a straight fight that I think will reward good drivers. I like it.
• I've heard the GrB races can be fun, and Tsukuba is fun for me, but I've never races in those cars... hmmm
• I love the RB X2019 cars... hope I can make the last round.
• (I wish there would have been one more Karts race since it was only the one in Round 1... I bet that others would have appreciated another as well)

Manufacturers

• Not counting on a great result at Brands in the Porsche...
• But I am counting on one in the RSR on the wet Spa track!
• If I do get one, it'll be back to Earth right away at RBR in the 911...
• Strange to have a repeat track/class race from the opening Round in Stage 1 with the Suzuka/Gr4 race... I keep looking at that, thinking, is that right? It'll be tough to repeat my first race's 2nd place this time (and it's another endurance race, well over 35 minutes)
• Hope I can do better in my Porsche for the Manufacturers race at Nurburgring, compared to the punting that ruined my Nations race in the Megane there in Stage 1.
• A little bit of a letdown as far as the track for the season-ender, but I don't hate that layout. But I don't know if the RSR will be able to keep up on the long straights, so I hope it doesn't come down to that race, if I need to move up further in the Porsche standings to hit my target!

 

[Groundfish]

Tsukuba group b will be bad.
Brands and Spa I will prolly race but not expecting much in the gr4 vette at Brands.

 

[Redneckchef]

Ran a few laps with the Skyline around Autopolis country and see how crazy it would be. It is going to be like GT1 or GT2 where you spent all your cash to upgrade the engine and nothing on the brakes! Like trying to drive the 900HP GTO around Grand Valley while saving tires.

Utter carnage. Going to be wild. I almost dont want to qualify for the turn 1 situation.

 

[Ashthebash]

A few thoughts on the remaining FIAGTC races:

Nations

• the '94 Skyline GTR race at Autopolis seems like it's going to be a fun one, for me. I like the variety and it's like that track was made for that car.
• I also like the idea of the Scirocco Cup race at Suzuka, that's going to be a close one, though and hard fought for every position. I hope the new penalties situation doesn't ruin it.
• There's got to be a catch with the SSRX N800 race, right?!
• Another endurance race at DTS, with high tire wear multiplier in Gr3, a straight fight that I think will reward good drivers. I like it.
• I've heard the GrB races can be fun, and Tsukuba is fun for me, but I've never races in those cars... hmmm
• I love the RB X2019 cars... hope I can make the last round.

Manufacturers

• Not counting on a great result at Brands in the Porsche...
• But I am counting on one in the RSR on the wet Spa track!
• If I do get one, it'll be back to Earth right away at RBR in the RSR...
• Strange to have a repeat track/class race from the opening Round in Stage 1 with the Suzuka/Gr4 race... I keep looking at that, thinking, is that right? It'll be tough to repeat my first race's 2nd place this time, I am sure (and it's another endurance race, well over 35 minutes)
• Hope I can do better in my Porsche for the Manufacturers race at Nurburgring, compared to the punting that ruined my Nations race in the Megane there in Stage 1.
• A little bit of a letdown as far as the track for the season-ender, but I don't hate that layout. But I don't know if the RSR will be able to keep up on the long straights, so I hope it doesn't come down to that race, if I need to move up further in the Porsche standings to hit my target!

I'm just hoping to get two or three more races done in each championship this series. I'd like my S ranking back so need to get in the top 200. But after missing a month a while back getting my pedals fixed (some races I was really looking forward to too) I've only done six of the races in Nations so far! Probably five of the remaining races that I'm quite looking forward to. Manufacturers has gone really badly and there just doesn't seem much point in the Gr.4 Merc. I'm actually looking forward to the race in the rain at Spa this weekend despite having an FR car for it. I can say that it's very wet! Wetter than the Nations race was last series

 

[RX8 Racer]

My Saturday was not great.

Manufacturers was a one and done, as I knew the Alfa would have a hard time on the oval. Started 15th, did a 2-stop and came home in 13th for a meaningful, but measly haul of 56 points.

Nations was a struggle, as I couldn't stand the chronic understeer of the FF and 4WD. After a poor finish of 13th in the Evo, I ran the Cayman and 2-stopped the other two races. Race 2 saw me get hammered by the new (and stupid) penalty system, with the penalty costing me a potential 10th and dropping me to 12th. Race 3 was a mess. I had started 13th on Mediums, only for some idiot to slam me off at the apex of the final corner in the middle of my 1st stint. I had an unscheduled meeting with the outside wall, sending me down the order. My mood did not improve when I had to fight a TT on the way back up. The TT squeezed me to the outside at the exit of the final corner, with the contact handing me a penalty. The TT let me past, before retaking the position after my penalty. I then made light contact with the TT's rear bumper on the final corner, and the TT immediately dived into the pits to escape my fury at getting another penalty. With my nemesis out of reach, I was able to cool off and get my head down.

On the 3rd stint with Mediums, I decided to let a different TT past in order to use his slipstream. This tactic would pay dividends. On the penultimate lap, my nemesis came to blows with a WRX driver that I was on good terms with. The resulting brawl sent my nemesis into the shadow realm and allowed me to slip past my tower. The WRX retained his 10th place, but had a 4 second penalty. After serving his penalty, the WRX settled in behind me, and I came home in a surprising, but pointless 10th place.

 

[GTWolverine]

A few thoughts on the remaining FIAGTC races:

Nations

• the '94 Skyline GTR race at Autopolis seems like it's going to be a fun one, for me. I like the variety and it's like that track was made for that car.
• I also like the idea of the Scirocco Cup race at Suzuka, that's going to be a close one, though and hard fought for every position. I hope the new penalties situation doesn't ruin it.
• There's got to be a catch with the SSRX N800 race, right?!
• Another endurance race at DTS, with high tire wear multiplier in Gr3, a straight fight that I think will reward good drivers. I like it.
• I've heard the GrB races can be fun, and Tsukuba is fun for me, but I've never races in those cars... hmmm
• I love the RB X2019 cars... hope I can make the last round.
• (I wish there would have been one more Karts race since it was only the one in Round 1... I bet that others would have appreciated another as well)

Manufacturers

• Not counting on a great result at Brands in the Porsche...
• But I am counting on one in the RSR on the wet Spa track!
• If I do get one, it'll be back to Earth right away at RBR in the 911...
• Strange to have a repeat track/class race from the opening Round in Stage 1 with the Suzuka/Gr4 race... I keep looking at that, thinking, is that right? It'll be tough to repeat my first race's 2nd place this time (and it's another endurance race, well over 35 minutes)
• Hope I can do better in my Porsche for the Manufacturers race at Nurburgring, compared to the punting that ruined my Nations race in the Megane there in Stage 1.
• A little bit of a letdown as far as the track for the season-ender, but I don't hate that layout. But I don't know if the RSR will be able to keep up on the long straights, so I hope it doesn't come down to that race, if I need to move up further in the Porsche standings to hit my target!

I think the "catch" to the SSRX N800 race is the one I mentioned above. I hope i'm wrong though. Also, not only is the Suzuka Gr. 4 race a repeat of the very first race, but RBR and Suzuka show up in the reverse order they did at the beginning of the championship (RBR Gr. 3 was right after Suzuka Gr. 4 for Rounds 1 and 2, and now RBR Gr. 3 is right before Suzuka Gr. 4).

Tsukuba group b will be bad.
Brands and Spa I will prolly race but not expecting much in the gr4 vette at Brands.

I managed to win the last Gr. B race from pole at Brands Hatch, which is a track I still don't really feel confident around, so I'm hoping for similar success at Tsukuba, which I feel much better driving around. I'd literally never raced Gr. B before that race, so either it was massive beginners luck, or I'm actually good with those cars. I'm hoping that the Gr. 4 Corvette does well at Brands. I actually had a good result last time in the Gr. 3 race. The Soft tires should nullify some of the handling deficiencies it has.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Tsukuba group b will be bad.
Brands and Spa I will prolly race but not expecting much in the gr4 vette at Brands.

the Gr3 is fun at BH but I suspect the Gr4 car does struggle

Ran a few laps with the Skyline around Autopolis country and see how crazy it would be. It is going to be like GT1 or GT2 where you spent all your cash to upgrade the engine and nothing on the brakes! Like trying to drive the 900HP GTO around Grand Valley while saving tires.

Utter carnage. Going to be wild. I almost dont want to qualify for the turn 1 situation.

Will pay to brake early, for sure... well before that line across the track on lap one, for sure... hopefully you can avoid being plowed over, and then drive through the ghosts at the apex of Turn 1. The key to that track anyway is don't overdrive that corner, so if you can get through once, you can probably hold off any charges from behind (I admit I may be eating these words by the end of Tue night).

I'm just hoping to get two or three more races done in each championship this series. I'd like my S ranking back so need to get in the top 200. But after missing a month a while back getting my pedals fixed (some races I was really looking forward to too) I've only done six of the races in Nations so far! Probably five of the remaining races that I'm quite looking forward to. Manufacturers has gone really badly and there just doesn't seem much point in the Gr.4 Merc. I'm actually looking forward to the race in the rain at Spa this weekend despite having an FR car for it. I can say that it's very wet! Wetter than the Nations race was last series

It sure seemed that way to me when I test drove my preferred options for Manufacturers this season (that the SLR was useless). They missed the boat with the Gr4 car... they should have had a mega A-Class model to go toe-to-toe with the TT, it would have been really cool.

I...not only is the Suzuka Gr. 4 race a repeat of the very first race, but RBR and Suzuka show up in the reverse order they did at the beginning of the championship (RBR Gr. 3 was right after Suzuka Gr. 4 for Rounds 1 and 2, and now RBR Gr. 3 is right before Suzuka Gr. 4).

I didn't notice that! Looking back, I had a decent result there in the 911 (6th) so maybe I should be more optimistic. But I'm racing in tougher lobbies now compared to that first week. I guess if nothing else the repeat track/class races provide a nice measuring stick from the beginning of the season until now. I'd be really happy with a 6th and a 2nd place in those races next week!

 

[GTWolverine]

I didn't notice that! Looking back, I had a decent result there in the 911 (6th) so maybe I should be more optimistic. But I'm racing in tougher lobbies now compared to that first week. I guess if nothing else the repeat track/class races provide a nice measuring stick from the beginning of the season until now. I'd be really happy with a 6th and a 2nd place in those races next week!

Yeah I was thinking Suzuka would be a good measure of how much the Gr. 4 Corvette improved with the BoP buff it got. It was absolutely useless everywhere it went and I had to drive the wheels off it to even get 9th place at Suzuka. Right now it actually has my single best points score, so I guess that's a good indicator of how much it's improved, but an "apples to apples" comparison with the same car at the same track would be cool.