Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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I would be very surprised if they were one and done races. One time prize cars, sure, but one time race payouts seems very unlikely and counter productive to the overall goal of swapping out Reggie for Sophy.
 
Seeing is member of GTP since 2009, chances are he got GT7 a while ago, so I hope by now he got rid of the grind and can play without regards to how much credits any activity in the game is rewarding his time.
The thing for me is, play without regards of credits does not work with custom races since a SuperGT grid for example costs in the millions. You need a certain income to have fun in the game as well (for offline players). Timeattack only gives me a million a week or so
 
The thing for me is, play without regards of credits does not work with custom races since a SuperGT grid for example costs in the millions. You need a certain income to have fun in the game as well (for offline players). Timeattack only gives me a million a week or so
Well if you want a grid full of specially livered expansive cars which are the same model, I feel you. Hopefully you are not looking to recreate the lineup from Le Mans 66 😅
 
You can play missions over and over, but they only pay one time and you don’t get to choose your car.

The fear is that these are one time pay (not play) events with pre selected cars.
And the only bit of information that this fear is based on is the fact that in one screenshot the car used in the championship is not the car in the top status bar. That's pure conjecture.

A lot more likely is that you can choose the car among all eligible for the event just like for the weekly time trials, but your choice is probably a little more restricted to those that actually fit the race (i.e. in the screenshot some 90's SuperGT), or in other words, not like in a race restricted to 800PP where you can turn up in a detuned Gr.2 car.
 
Ideally, they should have a selection of cars that are eligible for the race's particular theme (they already have this function for other events), the races should have a PP limit (they also have this function), a selection of eligible tires (already works in-game), but tuning should be allowed i.e. suspension/aero/gear settings etc. So all of it is perfectly feasible.

But it's Polyphony so.. They may just not want to, or can't, for some reason we don't know because they don't share much information. My guess is that, for balancing and testing reasons with Sophy, they could limit it to a specific car with no tuning. Why, I dunno, but it feels like they are more concerned with providing a winnable scenario that isn't too hard for most people instead of a balanced scenario that is harder for many people. I don't think Sophy is as easy to adapt and flexible as people think. It feels like they have to teach it and learn with every tiny possible different scenario.

I really hope it's flexible.

And I'm still betting the "Championship" is not a championship like we want. I think that's just what they called the event theme. The difference is meaningful because say 8 of the 50 races may be the "Japan GT Championship" (a series of race thumbnails seen in the picture, where you unlock/complete them progressively) vs 1 "Japan GT Championship" actual championship event where it is only one of those thumbnails, you earn points based on position placement for each race, but has 8 races contained within it i.e. a traditional Championship (which they also already have in the game but have never since added any.) So only taking up 1 of 50 events. Something tells me it's going to be the former. Which means 50 events may only be 6 or 7 different "themes" instead of like 15 themes.

"Theme" examples being four already shown on the Power Pack DLC page: '90s GT500, Group C, GT3 Nurburgring, Civic One-Make. We can see SEMA cars in a couple thumbnails. AE86s in the thumbnails maybe based on the N2 races could be another. And there may not be much more beyond that is what I'm saying.

Hope for the best 🤞
 
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Ideally, they should have a selection of cars that are eligible for the race's particular theme (they already have this function for other events), the races should have a PP limit (they also have this function), a selection of eligible tires, but tuning should be allowed i.e. suspension/aero/gear settings etc. So all of it is perfectly feasible.

But it's Polyphony so.. They may just not want to, or can't, for some reason we don't know because they don't share much information. My guess is that, for balancing and testing reasons with Sophy, they could limit it to a specific car with no tuning. Why, I dunno, but it feels like they are more concerned with providing a winnable scenario that isn't too hard for most people instead of a balanced scenario that is harder for many people.

I really hope it's flexible.

And I'm still betting the "Championship" is not a championship like we want. I think that's just what they called the event theme. The difference is meaningful because say 8 of the 50 races may be the "Japan GT Championship" (a series of race thumbnails seen in the picture, where you unlock/complete them progressively) vs 1 "Japan GT Championship" actual championship event where it is only one of those thumbnails, you earn points based on position placement for each race, but has 8 races contained within it. So only taking up 1 of 50 events. Something tells me it's going to be the former. Which means 50 events may only be 6 or 7 different "themes" instead of like 15 themes.

"Theme" examples being four already shown on the Power Pack DLC page: '90s GT500, Group C, GT3 Nurburgring, Civic One-Make.
Tuning random street cars might be the reason their AI is all over the place. That’s a lot of factors to contend with.

Most other racing games you can only work on your setup so there’s no fudging things or getting just the right combination of tuning parts and setup to clean everyone’s clock.

I do enjoy tuning, but it really throws a wrench into things when racing only PP and tire limit. You can do weight and horsepower but some cars have more torque. It just comes with the territory of having like 500 cars and trying to have a decent AI when you can bring anything within its parameters. You can run the P4 in Ferrari races but not many other spots and so forth.

In short, they don’t really know what the cars are capable of because there is car tuning which means you could have like 30 different versions of one car.
 
Tuning random street cars might be the reason their AI is all over the place. That’s a lot of factors to contend with.

Most other racing games you can only work on your setup so there’s no fudging things or getting just the right combination of tuning parts and setup to clean everyone’s clock.

I do enjoy tuning, but it really throws a wrench into things when racing only PP and tire limit. You can do weight and horsepower but some cars have more torque. It just comes with the territory of having like 500 cars and trying to have a decent AI when you can bring anything within its parameters. You can run the P4 in Ferrari races but not many other spots and so forth.

In short, they don’t really know what the cars are capable of because there is car tuning which means you could have like 30 different versions of one car.
(Not exactly related to what you're talking about) Yea, which is why I think E-sports and online racing is such a huge burden to the game. They have to spend so much time trying to balance things that it sucks any fun out for everyone else. But this is only offline so it shouldn't be a concern for them. I dunno.
 
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(Not exactly related to what you're talking about) Yea, which is why I think E-sports and online racing is such a huge burden to the game. They have to spend so much time trying to balance things that it sucks any fun out for everyone else. But this is only offline so it shouldn't be a concern for them. I dunno.
Well most of that is GR3 cars which I don’t care about and those are probably the most balanced out of all of them. You can’t beat one make/no tune races but that’s not exactly fun all the time either.

Hmmm, if only they could make tune sharing easier and have a host lock those tunes. If you spent days or weeks tweaking cars so they run the same lap times you could share those or put them up for use in multiplayer lobbies to choose from and have some very competitive races. The way it is now, is somebody always has the meta car rendering the rest of the cars useless.

I did that online with the 2J. Seemed nothing could beat it. People were getting ticked off at me.
 
Super GT covers Spec 3 and the DLC and mentions the B-Spec option. It would make a WHOLE BUNCH OF SENSE for the 25 hour races.

 
I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet so just putting it out there:

What's to stop PD from adding events / championships to the Power Pack down-the-line?

I'm thinking that'd be awesome.
 
I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet so just putting it out there:

What's to stop PD from adding events / championships to the Power Pack down-the-line?

I'm thinking that'd be awesome.
I'm sure it's possible since he mentioned adding to My First GT. That was free, but still could happen.
 
I wonder what the strictness of sportsmanship rules will be during these races Power Pack racing events, 'cause if they're active for the players but not for Sophy, then yikes.
 
I just finished my drive home from my visit in California, I’ve been putting extra (this time for real this time for sure definitely) serious thought into getting a PS5 and hopping back in. Work wasn’t as profitable as I’d expected while I was down there, so unfortunately I could nab a cheap launch spec from a family friend while I was down there.
Kay, but they don't do Platinum/Greatest Hits any more. The lowest GT7 has ever been - during this summer's Summer Sale - was two-thirds off, and even that was only the PS4 version.

That was $19.79 for the PS4 Standard and $29.39 for the PS4/PS5 Standard with dual entitlement, for reference. We've seen normal discounts for GT7 of about 50% ($24.99/$39.89 respectively) and the Digital Deluxe version is rarely on sale (Days of Play in 2023 had it at $59.39).

I'm expecting the DLC to be in this $20-$40 area - comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game - so I'm expecting the game to revert to its usual price before they announce the DLC price in order that it doesn't look too similar to buying the whole game. Probably not in the $50-$60 area, as reflected by my choice in this thread's poll.

The current median price in the poll is $26 and buttons.
However: I did grab a used copy of GT7 as an early Christmas gift for my old housemate who was sharing his PS5 with me at launch, and dropped it off at 4am in Oregon. Turns out GameStop still charges $45 for a launch edition without the original box. :indiff: Also for a used PS5 with a disk drive? $460 for the fat, $510 for the slim. If I paid $25 for their membership I could knock $20 off. 🙄

Depending on how itchy I keep increasing getting with spec III details I may dip my toes into Craigslist and grab something cheap and try and hop in near the DLC launch date.

If so, it’ll be my first time playing in 3 years and 3 and a half months (unless you count the 45 seconds I got on the sim rig in LA before getting kicked off. :lol:)
 
I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet so just putting it out there:

What's to stop PD from adding events / championships to the Power Pack down-the-line?

I'm thinking that'd be awesome.
A cool twist would be that the DLC is $4.99 USD (or less) and there will be fifty races added every other month for the same price until the release of GT8.

One can dream.
 
A cool twist would be that the DLC is $4.99 USD (or less) and there will be fifty races added every other month for the same price until the release of GT8.

One can dream.
Much rather pay $4.99 for tracks and cars if they could spit out 5 muscle cars one month and 1-2 tracks another. Then 5 other themed cars. If group 3 I wouldn’t bother but it’s better than getting one chevelle in an update with some other cars totally unrelated.

If Sophy 3.0 is good and they allowed people to share custom races. We wouldn’t need their races.
 
I wonder what the strictness of sportsmanship rules will be during these races Power Pack racing events, 'cause if they're active for the players but not for Sophy, then yikes.
Well, half of the F1 fans these days have the same lingering questions about the stewards each and every real Grand Prix :D

I think we need a sit down with Sophie 3.0 for a thorough review of the driving standards guidelines.
 
The GT7 Anniversary edition is now 50% off (£44.99) in the Playstation Black Friday sale (not the standard editions). Sale ends on 1st Dec so I predict the Power Pack add-on will become available to preorder on Dec 2nd.

(That version includes 3.5 million credits, worth £31.97 at current price so the game itself is apparently only worth £13.02 :lol:)
 
I just hope we get some QoL changes.

I'm so tired of having to avoid some cars or being forced to drive in bumper cam in this game.

Who thought this was fine? And this isn't even the worst ofender. Just let us remove or have the steering wheel not to move like other games do.

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What if December 4th is the day when Power Pack becomes available in Store to buy but it's not the day when Spec III and Power Pack patch becomes available in game?
 
What if December 4th is the day when Power Pack becomes available in Store to buy but it's not the day when Spec III and Power Pack patch becomes available in game?
I'm not sure how this could be any clearer :confused:

On 4 December 2025, we will be releasing the 'Power Pack' DLC
 
Much rather pay $4.99 for tracks and cars if they could spit out 5 muscle cars one month and 1-2 tracks another. Then 5 other themed cars. If group 3 I wouldn’t bother but it’s better than getting one chevelle in an update with some other cars totally unrelated.
There's that misconception again, that if you just throw money at PD they'll be able to scan cars & circuits quicker or obtain unicorn brand licences.

It reminds me of people who try and negotiate how long their food will take to cook by offering to pay more.
 
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I'm not sure how this could be any clearer
"It will be available in game with 1.64 Spec III update on December 4th", for example, would be more clear

I don't really doubt Dec 4th is the day, but apparently there were DLCs for other Sony games which were made available to buy in advance. And specifically Spec III date was never announced by PD. So I would say it is not impossible.
 
the way PD worded it sounded pretty clear to me 🤷‍♂️ and the Power Pack trailer features SPEC III content so you can just put 2 and 2 together.
 
Reaaaaally running out of stuff to talk about here it seems.


I just noticed that while it clearly says "On 4 December 2025, we will be releasing the 'Power Pack' DLC" it does not explicitly say "On 4 December 2025, we will be releasing the 'Power Pack' DLC in Russia".

What if this comes out later in Russisa!?!


Discuss!
 
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Reaaaaally running out of stuff to talk about here it seems.


I just noticed that while it clearly says "On 4 December 2025, we will be releasing the 'Power Pack' DLC" it does not explicitly say "On 4 December 2025, we will be releasing the 'Power Pack' DLC in Russia".

What if this comes out later in Russisa!?!


Discuss!
Woah! You are right! Actually, what if it doesn't come out in Russia at all?!

Wait... that's exactly what is going to happen! :eek:
 
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