Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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I think the update AI is even stupider than the OG PP AI.

Just tried to qualify for the N24 GT3 endurance.
Grabbed the Mercedes, love that car. Fast, stable, sounds amazing.

Set an 8:08 which is about the IRL record.

I am 8 seconds off the pole time. WHO CAN RUN THE NURBURGRING NORDSCHLIEFE IN 8 MINUTES FLAT!!?? nobody PD, nobody. Unplayable garbage lolol
 
I've been trying to engage with the Power Pack and I'm not very far in, but I don't agree with how Polyphony is going about the chili pepper system specifically with these races.

For some context, I keep throwing myself at the Civic (90s) races and the one at Suzuka is really highlighting something to me:

The extra hard race options (EF Civic in Civic 90s) are hard because they cut the horsepower of the player car, not because of any Sophy fine tuning between difficulty levels. I don't like how I can run a healthy, clean lap (a 2:26.1) in the EF, and see the guy in front of me in 4th just walking me due to a horsepower advantage. It doesn't feel like there's any actual merit earned by either the player or the Sophys when you lose the PP race in a two pepper car, because it feels like a foregone conclusion with a power delta against the player's favor.

I want to lose and win in these PP races because I actually drove better than the Sophys, rather than because the car is hobbled.

I'm struggling with figuring out if I want to continue with the DLC or not.
 
Not sure if it's just me but does Sarah's text show as glitched for anyone else? Like it's showing me what I assume is the debug text instead of the actual messages. I haven't restarted my game so maybe that may fix it.
 
05XR8
I do this and it's still not fast enough.
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And she gets upset....
 
Pretty sure whatever PD did to the AI made the endurance races unbeatable pieces of garbage. I'm no slouch. I can run a 3:07 at Le Mans in the Nissan Group C all day long. I can run an 8:08 at the Nurburgring Endurance in the Mercedes all day long.

I cannot run a 3:04 at Le Mans. I cannot run an 8 flat.

The All Time Le Mans Group C lap record is 3:14 before the chicanes were added. The AI is lapping comfortably 9-10 seconds faster than that. I can't hit those times without cheating.

As far as I can find the official current layout lap record for the Nurburgring Nordschliefe is 8:08. The AI is lapping at 8 flat.

I have not run any other races since the update. I don't plan to. If I could refund this pile of steaming garbage I would. PD has zero clue wtf they're doing and they've lost the plot.

Either it's too easy or it's so hard you might as well not bother trying. They can't balance crap, rubberbanding is their go-to solution.

Frankly I was excited to wake up today hearing about a new patch. I'm going to sleep pissed off that PD ruined things AGAIN
 
Obelisk
I'm struggling with figuring out if I want to continue with the DLC or not.
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Please do not give up, if need be just back away and come back to it again with gusto.
Personally I am going slow with this as I am not a good as you, I'm new to the whole Sophy thing and she kicks my tail in regular races outside the PowerPack. So I am basically doing about 1-2 races a day and adjusting accordingly.
Wishing you better luck with it...
 
art3mis
Pretty sure whatever PD did to the AI made the endurance races unbeatable pieces of garbage. I'm no slouch. I can run a 3:07 at Le Mans in the Nissan Group C all day long. I can run an 8:08 at the Nurburgring Endurance in the Mercedes all day long.

I cannot run a 3:04 at Le Mans. I cannot run an 8 flat.

The All Time Le Mans Group C lap record is 3:14 before the chicanes were added. The AI is lapping comfortably 9-10 seconds faster than that. I can't hit those times without cheating.

As far as I can find the official current layout lap record for the Nurburgring Nordschliefe is 8:08. The AI is lapping at 8 flat.

I have not run any other races since the update. I don't plan to. If I could refund this pile of steaming garbage I would. PD has zero clue wtf they're doing and they've lost the plot.

Either it's too easy or it's so hard you might as well not bother trying. They can't balance crap, rubberbanding is their go-to solution.

Frankly I was excited to wake up today hearing about a new patch. I'm going to sleep pissed off that PD ruined things AGAIN
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I decided to try the Porsche at Le Mans Group C. What the actual **** did PD do?

ok so pre patch I was running high 08 to mid 11 for lap times, close to a 3:10 average in the Nissan.

Got my QT down to 3:04:8xx a few minutes ago. Took pole by 1.9 seconds. Tried to start the race. Was 3 seconds down and in 5th by the end of the Mulsanne. The Porsche is just THAT much faster. They have perfect traction every corner exit. They have perfect gear changes at the perfect RPM. They have weird surges of power that push them past me as I'm accelerating.

Figured I would give the Porsche a shot and see how that runs. It's supposed to be the Easy Mode car.
I turned, with zero practice and only one out lap, a 3:02:1xx
That's insane and there's no way either the 1 or 2 Chilli car can ever hope to be competitive with that. Even if the AI is only running 3:05:xx that means I've got to be the fastest I can possibly be, every lap, for 24 hours if I want to use anything besides the car that is a cakewalk.
 
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I did the Hakosuka 70's race on Suzuka in the Hakosuka and left the competition for dead. It was too easy so I tried the 240ZG for the race on Brands Hatch, but that wasn't much harder at all. It was the same deal for the Classic Rally races on Sardegna Windmills and Lake Louise. I drove the Porsche 911 and Renualt 5 Turbo respectively. The AI didn't prove to be a threat but at least I wasn't forced to start 30 seconds behind the leader and pass mobile chicanes. That is not a race in my opinion so despite whacking the opposition, I don't really care soo much because the game isn't punking me. I also like the addition of prize cars because it rewards your troubles far more handsomely than cash alone. Getting a hold of the tuned Hakosuka genuinely felt rewarding... especially after a less than great day on Cities: Skylines 2 where my population went down. This game mode is structured just the way I like it.
 
If the gift cars can be driven by SOPHY in the PP and we can use them in all the World Circuit races and Sport Mode Lobby, why can’t SOPHY use them in Custom Races? 🤔 We(those of us that Custom Race) need answers from PD. If got my 20 Mustang ARs all decked in TA2 inspired liveries and I needs SOPHY to jump in those bad boys.
 
I just won all of the Civic races, but never managed to get a good launch off the line. I tried different TCS settings and also used the practice sessions to find out exactly how fast I could go in each gear before I had to shift (which can be difficult to tell due to the tyrespin), but I always got swarmed and immediately lost two or three positions to the AI. What do I have to do to get an ideal launch in those races?
 
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I did the Hakosuka 70's race on Suzuka in the Hakosuka and left the competition for dead. It was too easy so I tried the 240ZG for the race on Brands Hatch, but that wasn't much harder at all. It was the same deal for the Classic Rally races on Sardegna Windmills and Lake Louise. I drove the Porsche 911 and Renualt 5 Turbo respectively. The AI didn't prove to be a threat but at least I wasn't forced to start 30 seconds behind the leader and pass mobile chicanes. That is not a race in my opinion so despite whacking the opposition, I don't really care soo much because the game isn't punking me. I also like the addition of prize cars because it rewards your troubles far more handsomely than cash alone. Getting a hold of the tuned Hakosuka genuinely felt rewarding... especially after a less than great day on Cities: Skylines 2 where my population went down. This game mode is structured just the way I like it.
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Yeah, the race format is great. They just need to work on balancing things better. I suspect it'll take some time and quite a few patches.

Cutting laps off races is a very wrong move though. No race (except at Nords) should be fewer than 5 laps, and 8 or 12 should be the norm.
 
For drivers who don't like it hard due to stress issues like I've got, I hope they'll introduce the opposite of pepper cars, milk glass cars. (As in, cooling down from spice.) I hope they work on the DLC with the next few patches.
 
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I hope the Power Pack will get more endurance races in future updates. Some 2-4 races would be nice.
 
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Who wanted more Sara?
Who wanted races with fewer laps?
Why the urgency to change those things just a week after the PP launch? They've actually devalued it.

I did the Willow FF Tuning Battle again to test what people are claiming about the AI for myself, and yes, it's easier, Miyazono is nerfed, stupidly slow, particularly in the final corner.

Very disappointed with this.
 
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05XR8
If the gift cars can be driven by SOPHY in the PP and we can use them in all the World Circuit races and Sport Mode Lobby, why can’t SOPHY use them in Custom Races? 🤔 We(those of us that Custom Race) need answers from PD. If got my 20 Mustang ARs all decked in TA2 inspired liveries and I needs SOPHY to jump in those bad boys.
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It's Sophy 3.0 in the Power Pack and 2.0 or whatever in the Custom Races. So it's a different iteration of Sophy inthe different game modes.
 
Great update PD, exactly what this pack needed.
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I know I criticised it before for having artificial challenge, but at least it was there for you to treat as such, which has its own merits for being fun even if it isn't standard racing.

I straight up wouldn't have bought the pack if the events were to have released like this. This is no different to doing a Sunday Cup.
I feel like they have retroactively wasted my money, which is impressive.
 
Nebuc72
Great update PD, exactly what this pack needed.
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I know I criticised it before for having artificial challenge, but at least it was there for you to treat as such, which has its own merits for being fun even if it isn't standard racing.

I straight up wouldn't have bought the pack if the events were to have released like this. This is no different to doing a Sunday Cup.
I feel like they have retroactively wasted my money, which is impressive.
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A little nerfing (but not this much) might've been ok if they'd done the right thing and introduced wall/track limits penalties, and enabled light damage for car contact.

But no, they've just decided (based on what?) it was too difficult and, imo, really ruined it.

Strange though that there's a guy a few posts up saying the long endurance races have actually been made harder (faster, anyway).
 
SpacedInvader
A little nerfing (but not this much) might've been ok if they'd done the right thing and introduced wall/track limits penalties, and enabled light damage for car contact.

But no, they've just decided (based on what?) it was too difficult and, imo, really ruined it.

Strange though that there's a guy a few posts up saying the long endurance races have actually been made harder (faster, anyway).
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Yeah I imagine it's still all over the place, if they half-heartedly did the changes to the extent Sarah now pops up to explain the pack to you every time you open it.

I'm doing the GT ONE event at Le Mans and the AI are 5 seconds a lap slower there than they used to be (3:46 before for the fastest AI is now 3:51-52) so that one is also a complete wash, which is a trend that has constantly repeated for me with this update.
 
Hey guys! I would like to take this moment to share my positive experiences with this DLC! Uh, anyway...

Sophy feels great to race with, it avoids you if you try to bomb it on corners, it gives you enough room to race side by side, it is able to overtake you without slowing down like the regular AI, overall a really competitive environment!

Sure there are some inconsistencies on certain tracks... It doesn't like going over the white line much, any track with deep curbs will be easier for you to win at.

There's also something very wrong with the faster XJR-9's at Le Mans, for some reason they start fishtailing and end up spinning out. This fishtailing also happens when two cars are side by side, as if some parameter that determines how close they should be to eachother cannot compensate for the turning ability of these group C cars, resulting in this weird oscillating behaviour, same for the straight line driving at high speed, trying to stick to a line or something? All cars oscillate but only the XJR-9's do it so violently they crash.

I should note, I had zero trouble being faster than the AI at Le Mans in the Sauber after the update. Just go faster.
 
art3mis
Pretty sure whatever PD did to the AI made the endurance races unbeatable pieces of garbage. I'm no slouch. I can run a 3:07 at Le Mans in the Nissan Group C all day long. I can run an 8:08 at the Nurburgring Endurance in the Mercedes all day long.

I cannot run a 3:04 at Le Mans. I cannot run an 8 flat.

The All Time Le Mans Group C lap record is 3:14 before the chicanes were added. The AI is lapping comfortably 9-10 seconds faster than that. I can't hit those times without cheating.

As far as I can find the official current layout lap record for the Nurburgring Nordschliefe is 8:08. The AI is lapping at 8 flat.

I have not run any other races since the update. I don't plan to. If I could refund this pile of steaming garbage I would. PD has zero clue wtf they're doing and they've lost the plot.

Either it's too easy or it's so hard you might as well not bother trying. They can't balance crap, rubberbanding is their go-to solution.

Frankly I was excited to wake up today hearing about a new patch. I'm going to sleep pissed off that PD ruined things AGAIN
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Why don't you just accept, that you are not good enough to beat the AI in some races and why the heck is winning those races so important to you ?

In any other post you complain about more or less the same thing that annoys you-over and over again since this PP came out...so one post for that topic would have been enough...why don't you just play(or don't play if you don't like this game and do something else instead), why do you have to win every race ?

Sorry for this rant, but feels like the 10th posting to the same topic were you write more or less exactly the same like in any other posting before...
 
art3mis
I think the update AI is even stupider than the OG PP AI.

Just tried to qualify for the N24 GT3 endurance.
Grabbed the Mercedes, love that car. Fast, stable, sounds amazing.

Set an 8:08 which is about the IRL record.

I am 8 seconds off the pole time. WHO CAN RUN THE NURBURGRING NORDSCHLIEFE IN 8 MINUTES FLAT!!?? nobody PD, nobody. Unplayable garbage lolol
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it's normal that gt3 cars are way faster in game, irl bop is used, which makes cars a lot slower, in gt7 gt3 cars do not have any limitations on power, torque or weight.

you can setup the car to have a realistic nls bop and you'll obtain realistic lap times
 
GlamFM
You don’t know any of this.
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I am deducing based on simple observations, if you want to believe PD at face value until they say otherwise then good luck to you.

Remember - NFS Hot Pursuit had AI that could catch you by 20 seconds in a lap by rubber banding when it was behind, in 1998.
 
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