Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[Gingerale]

I'm willing to bet that the majority of people finding this easy are using paddle shift, ABS, traction control and so on. They've made it easy, not PD.

I personally always drive without aids and my IRL race car is the same. I also can't be bothered with practice, either in the game or IRL. In GT7 I start with quali and do one or two laps then pit to fastrack to the race. Sometimes I miss shifts or don't get the rev match right, sometimes my dog licks my hand as I'm trying to shift gears and botch it.

I still win most of these races on the easy version, but at times the fastest two guys give me a good battle and I don't get the lead until the last two laps. It's good fun, I get my 20 stars and I'm happy.

If PD ever made it too easy I think it's got to do with the online races. I think they should make it mandatory to have h pattern shift, have to clutch in, no ABS, no traction control. No one deserves an A+ rating unless you're rev matching half a dozen downshifts on a formula 1 car.

Yes PD need to build an AI which takes into account dogs licking hands.

 

[TimmyTurbo]

Did anyonne try the Le Mans 24h yet? I'm doing it with a Fanatec GT DD Base and F1 Wheel with the Auto Setting. But I think the FF on the long straight will kill the wheelbase or my arms, or both. It's shakimg like hell and I tried with all three cars. No real difference, just brutal punching FF. If this is the changed FF , please PD change it back.

 

[JDMKING13]

The way I'm doing it, I'm starting with 0 peppers first (mainly to get everything done without having to deal with the faster drivers yet), then I'll see what I can do with the higher difficulties.

I respect this big time.. At least you’re honest.. many people coming on here saying it’s extra easy but fail to mention they are probably using the best car in the bunch. I am going back doing them on all levels to see what’s going on and to me the only races that got super easy are the ones with no peppers 🌶️.

The pepper races are still challenging and you have to be on your a game to win the races. I’m glad I can launch just as good as the AI and the dive bombing has been toned down. As a A+ driver I am just having fun granted the races are better than regular AI which I like but ultimately racing real competition cannot be beat.

 

[vcx]

After update of DLC, today finished the 6 hours Suzuka race. You can see the pit stops at right column. AI is fast enough i think. After 6 hours the gap only 1 lap between 2nd and me.

 

[JDMKING13]

After update of DLC, today finished the 6 hours Suzuka race. You can see the pit stops at right column. AI is fast enough i think. After 6 hours the gap only 1 lap between 2nd and me.

And you used the best car… The middle car is a great challenge.. the NSX I would have to lock in crazy and I am not about that life right now lol! Great race congrats.

 

[GTvsForza]

I respect this big time.. At least you’re honest.. many people coming on here saying it’s extra easy but fail to mention they are probably using the best car in the bunch. I am going back doing them on all levels to see what’s going on and to me the only races that got super easy are the ones with no peppers 🌶️.

The pepper races are still challenging and you have to be on your a game to win the races. I’m glad I can launch just as good as the AI and the dive bombing has been toned down. As a A+ driver I am just having fun granted the races are better than regular AI which I like but ultimately racing real competition cannot be beat.

I finished the Historic branch this morning, the Group C races I won by at least 20 seconds. I'm betting the 1 pepper race will cut that gap in half and the 2 pepper will have a photo finish (I'm not the best driver compared to others here).

 

[appu]

The GT500 at Fuji was an absolute banger in the 🌶️🌶️ NSX. I qualified 3rd. Strategically blocked a swarm of cars at the start to successfully exit T1 at 6th. Without strategic blocking, I would have been 9th at best coming out of T1. It is very easy to fall to the last in the NSX if you are on the outside before approaching T1 because these Sophy's form an absolutely tight pack together and hog the insides before hogging the outside on the corner exit, meaning you will be pushed out.

Throughout the race, I had constant 4-way battle while top two pulled away. Each of these Sophy's have unique traits which made it even more fun. The orange Nissan has high tendency to make mistakes so I have to repeatedly squeeze it by corner entries to make it "nervous" and overshoot hairpin turns. The white Supra just chills throughout the race, knowing that no one can overtake it, but it still made a mistake, letting the red Supra and my NSX go past, but overtook us back on the long straight before chilling again and not bothering to pull away. The red Supra has nerves of iron and is unfazed by my divebombs and fakeouts. We ended up finishing in the same order, with me in the 5th.

The Desert Beetle event at Big Willow is also a hoot on double-chili. It was a three-way battle from start to the end. The extra two laps post-bugfix also helped in making the race better.

These races definitely need me to obey the same track limits as Sophy to keep it fair and fun.

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After going forth and back a few times, now my current opinion is that Sophy 3.0 is not using boost in races. Someone already posted an evidence in this thread that they do use boost in qualifying.

I like Sophy 3.0 better than Sophy 2.1. I am fed up of the conga-line and the same robotic behavior across every Sophy 2.1 agent. And worst of all, its inability to race in the rain. I am long bored of dry races with zero strategies, which is also why I quit Sport after they stopped doing 1-hr races with dynamic weather in Daily Races C.

Lastly, I would also like to point out that the bugfix did not make all the events shorter and easier. Some events also got longer and Sophy 3.0 is as tough as ever in them.

My wishes-- Sophy 3.0's strategy is appallingly poor in dynamic weather, likely due to inability to read weather map and I hope that PD remedies this. And, I hope that Sophy 3.0 will be available to custom races and with option to actually remove boost.

 

[MMX]

Been trying to win the Old timer race at Sardegna, but struggling to put together enough clean laps. I noticed last night, the 1 chili car(Benz), has a higher PP than the no chili car(Alfa). The Alfa drives like poo, so I've been using the Benz. I can get pole, and even the fast lap, by a small margin, but it's tough to put it all together. Definitely been a challenge, that's been frustratingly fun.

 

[vcx]

I will going to start 8 Hours SPA race. Any tips about pit strategy and tyre selection?

 

[GTvsForza]

I will going to start 8 Hours SPA race. Any tips about pit strategy and tyre selection?

For me, I switch to IM tires when the wet radar is nearing half-full. When the bar gets into the blue, go to Heavy Wet. When the track starts to dry, stay on the wets until there is a solid dry line.

 

[cvjoint]

Yes PD need to build an AI which takes into account dogs licking hands.

Clearly the most important part of my post there.

This is our future you know, we will forever complain about the AI even after it well surpassed us. PD can easily build an AI that defeats every human but the psychological toll on humans will be too much. I'm happy with Sophie 3.0 and think the challenge level can easily be made too hard with just driver settings.

If you have online races with the top 10 only tenths apart the cars are too easy to drive. We have the same problem in modern F1. Cars are too easy to drive, but some see it as good close racing.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Reading how this patch affected the racing in the DLC, I am just glad I didn't purchase.
I will stick to my custom races with Sophy 2.1, at least it offers fun racing for now.

the DLC offers VERY fun racing. Many of the complaints are coming from people who choose the easiest option and then complain that it's easy. Whether you buy it or not is up to you, but to say it isn't fun is a flat out lie. The DLC is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than the base game's single player. It's not even a comparison.

 

[wicken]

Been trying to win the Old timer race at Sardegna, but struggling to put together enough clean laps. I noticed last night, the 1 chili car(Benz), has a higher PP than the no chili car(Alfa). The Alfa drives like poo, so I've been using the Benz. I can get pole, and even the fast lap, by a small margin, but it's tough to put it all together. Definitely been a challenge, that's been frustratingly fun.

I had the same issue at this race yesterday. At the end of the day, the only way that I won was by pushing Serrano to the sand but he still caught me near the end with his insane rubberbanding.

 

[jonoholland29]

After update of DLC, today finished the 6 hours Suzuka race. You can see the pit stops at right column. AI is fast enough i think. After 6 hours the gap only 1 lap between 2nd and me.

Was this 12 x 30 min stints or not as simple as that?

 

[Nebuc72]

the DLC offers VERY fun racing. Many of the complaints are coming from people who choose the easiest option and then complain that it's easy. Whether you buy it or not is up to you, but to say it isn't fun is a flat out lie. The DLC is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than the base game's single player. It's not even a comparison.

Literally who is doing this? I've seen maybe one person say that whilst on low difficulty?
I don't understand why you keep perpetuating this claim.

Both of these are on 2 chillis, post patch. Driving as I would if there were strict penalties.

It is not helping anyone to say most of these claims are lies. Because quite simply they are not.

For added clarity, thanks to someone posting it on YouTube, the AI were 5 seconds per lap quicker on the GT ONE event before the patch, than they are now.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Literally who is doing this? I've seen maybe one person say that whilst on low difficulty?
I don't understand why you keep perpetuating this claim.

Both of these are on 2 chillis, post patch. Driving as I would if there were strict penalties.

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It is not helping anyone to say most of these claims are lies. Because quite simply they are not.

For added clarity, thanks to someone posting it on YouTube, the AI were 5 seconds per lap quicker on the GT ONE event before the patch, than they are now.

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Well, I've several minutes into the 8 hours of Spa and several second behind. Not so easy for me. It's a cake walk for you, great. Results vary. Proclaiming that it's easy for everyone is INCREDIBLY misleading. It's easy for you, and that's not the same thing.

 

[Nebuc72]

Proclaiming that it's easy for everyone is INCREDIBLY misleading. It's easy for you, and that's not the same thing.

I don't recall ever saying that, actually! It makes for a better discussion if you don't make up things that I've said.
They have reduced the difficulty in many events. That is a fact, and evidenced as such.

It is self evident I am speaking for myself when talking about my own feelings about such changes, and useful for other people of a similar skill level to know.
You going around making it out as if we're mostly all playing it on low difficulty is just completely ignorant and disingenuous.

 

[DS13_supergt]

the DLC offers VERY fun racing. Many of the complaints are coming from people who choose the easiest option and then complain that it's easy. Whether you buy it or not is up to you, but to say it isn't fun is a flat out lie. The DLC is HEAD AND SHOULDERS better than the base game's single player. It's not even a comparison.

i literally just won gt one at le mans by 5 sec with a short tail f1 gtr and no driving aids, all of that after crashing three times because i was too bored to pay at attention and drive seriouly, while literally two days ago i was trying as hard as i would in sport mode to win a race.

 

[mynameis66]

You need 900 stars to get all 37 rewards....out of 46 races,i won 42 with two 10th place finishes(dirt races) and two 2nd place finishes,which gets you exactly 900.....and then there's the 4 endurance races which i haven't tried yet.

Crikey,won 42 out of 46 thats good going.Im going to struggle to get anywhere near that to win all prizes.Oh well I didnt really want them anyway 👍

 

[Voodoovaj]

i literally just won gt one at le mans by 5 sec with a short tail f1 gtr and no driving aids, all of that after crashing three times because i was too bored to pay at attention and drive seriouly, while literally two days ago i was trying as hard as i would in sport mode to win a race.

And you wanted to lose?

I'm not sure what the argument is. Granted, I wasn't asked for them to make it easier, but obviously there was a backlash to cause them to make it easier. Is it too easy on the difficult level? I can't say because I did mine before the update.

Head on over to the official forums and see what's being said there.

 

[CTRL Garage]

i literally just won gt one at le mans by 5 sec with a short tail f1 gtr and no driving aids, all of that after crashing three times because i was too bored to pay at attention and drive seriouly, while literally two days ago i was trying as hard as i would in sport mode to win a race.

Your problem is you’re comparing AI and Sport mode

 

[Voodoovaj]

I am currently 11 SECONDS back on the GT One 8 hours of Spa on 2 Peppers.

Serrano is running consistent low 2:14's
Lopez keeps running into me at the bus stop with inside dive moves.
He has spun me out once.

I am only 20 minutes in and I think I can make up the time.

Try the endurance races and see how they play out for you. They meant for the hardcore after all.

 

[DS13_supergt]

Your problem is you’re comparing AI and Sport mode

I'm not comparing them at all, I'm saying that the ai was feeling way more real two days ago.

 

[CTRL Garage]

I'm not comparing them at all, I'm saying that the ai was feeling way more real two days ago.

So why mention sport mode then…

Yeah the AI is all over the place depending on event and chilli level, recent changes have skewed this the easier side but why complain if we know it’s AI and not Sport mode

 

[Voodoovaj]

Can confirm, you can start and save multiple endurance races.



On the topic of "difficulty". Here's where I am on 2 Pepper 8 hours of Spa. +15 seconds when I entered the pits. +56 when I came out. the leader haven't had a pit stop yet and I've done a few extra laps when I left it.



Can I still win? Yes. Will I? I don't know, I'm doubting it, but hey there's 7.5 hours to go and anything can happen.
When I was 5 laps in, did I think it would be this difficult? Nope.

 

[DS13_supergt]

So why mention sport mode then…

Yeah the AI is all over the place depending on event and chilli level, recent changes have skewed this the easier side but why complain if we know it’s AI and not Sport mode

I meant that the old sophy 3.0 engaged me so much i almost felt like racing against other ppl, which resulted in me being way more focused at driving.

 

[CTRL Garage]

I meant that the old sophy 3.0 engaged me so much i almost felt like racing against other ppl, which resulted in me being way more focused at driving.

Ahh ok understood

 

[kowalski__1]

Crikey,won 42 out of 46 thats good going.Im going to struggle to get anywhere near that to win all prizes.Oh well I didnt really want them anyway 👍

Oh,you can do it.....if you got to 840 after 46.....you'd only have to be 6th in the 4 endurance races.....15 points per race....gets you to 900..... just crunched some numbers....if you win 25 out of 50 gets you 500 stars.....the other 25 you'd have to aleast finish 5th....gets you 400 more....

 

[ShiftingGears]

Apples and oranges.

You don't know that.

 

[JoaoSilva]

Just did the Group C Memories 10 lap race at Watkins Glen and i didn't bother to practice or qualify so i started from 20th (with the 1 pepper Nissan), by the middle of lap 3 i was already at 1st place while driving like one would do to avoid penalties and after that i started pulling away from the AI quite easily (i wasn't driving with that much focus, just driving as i would to complete the average World Circuit event), the faster AI cars were also lapping 2 seconds slower than me.

Before i had to really focus up to beat these events but now it almost kinda just feels like a Word Circuit event when it comes to gameplay, it's a bit disappointing since the point of this DLC was to have more realistic and long form events with competitive AI but that's really not what we have now, at least in my view.