Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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What do you expect the Power Pack DLC will cost?


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Like someone mentioned, if it’s $50, that’s $50 after three years. I’m sure people have spent more than that on anything in three years. Not like GT7 is a bust.

For anyone that is trying to work out the PS4 to PS5/PS5P justification, I can’t help those people whether they can afford a PS5/PS5P or not.
Mentioned again in regards to Spec II, that was two years ago. Spending $50 for something that is nearly four years after the initial game dropped, is not costing anyone player anything. It’s not a FOMO thing if it’s hanging around for another two years. A PS5 can be used for games other than GT7.
 
won't it install automatically after purchase?

...been a long time since I bought a dlc for anything lol. I can't remember if you're prompted to install after you buy it.
Once you buy it is on your PS account but it won't download until you choose to do so
 
Polyphony is a strange company. They said they’re going to release more information about the Power Pack and asked us to stay tuned. Fast forward to today -2 days before its release- and we know exactly what we knew the day it was announced 😑 Why are they like that?
 
Polyphony is a strange company. They said they’re going to release more information about the Power Pack and asked us to stay tuned. Fast forward to today -2 days before its release- and we know exactly what we knew the day it was announced 😑 Why are they like that?
Whether they tell you something more than a week ago, or in a few more hours .. it really isn't gonna change much for you.

You are at their mercy and they don't really owe you anything....

You have the freedom and are in no obligation to give them your money....

I see nothing wrong in their behavior
 
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Polyphony is a strange company. They said they’re going to release more information about the Power Pack and asked us to stay tuned. Fast forward to today -2 days before its release- and we know exactly what we knew the day it was announced 😑 Why are they like that?
It wouldn't be PD if they did follow through with their promise
 
Polyphony is a strange company. They said they’re going to release more information about the Power Pack and asked us to stay tuned. Fast forward to today -2 days before its release- and we know exactly what we knew the day it was announced 😑 Why are they like that?
I mean... day before is standard for update details, and we're not there yet so...
 
Like someone mentioned, if it’s $50, that’s $50 after three years. I’m sure people have spent more than that on anything in three years. Not like GT7 is a bust.

For anyone that is trying to work out the PS4 to PS5/PS5P justification, I can’t help those people whether they can afford a PS5/PS5P or not.
Mentioned again in regards to Spec II, that was two years ago. Spending $50 for something that is nearly four years after the initial game dropped, is not costing anyone player anything. It’s not a FOMO thing if it’s hanging around for another two years. A PS5 can be used for games other than GT7.
I said this my friend thank you. I have three children my youngest is a gamer like me… The dlc he wants and what the games he play offer make GT7 DLC looks like child’s play. I’ve been playing GT7 the last three years , and I’m thinking to myself I haven’t spent a dime on this game and I’m thankful for that. For a hobby that brings me joy and all the free content PD has given us this is an easy buy for me.
 
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Very keen to see a broader article explaining what is in the PP DLC. Mostly interested because I'm curious why they feel like this is worth charging separately for as opposed to being included within Spec 3. I imagine it being DLC allows them to more easily separate the content from PS4 players.

Either way, this is the biggest event in GT7s history since launch, cannot wait to see what Kaz has been cooking for us.
 
Polyphony is a strange company. They said they’re going to release more information about the Power Pack and asked us to stay tuned. Fast forward to today -2 days before its release- and we know exactly what we knew the day it was announced 😑 Why are they like that?
Well, they didn't say when they would tell you so..
 
Guess what folks? I've now made the decision to not buy the DLC on Thursday. I will enjoy Spec III and see what you guys all have to report about the DLC.
You're not the only one, I won't be buying it either.
 
Guess what folks? I've now made the decision to not buy the DLC on Thursday. I will enjoy Spec III and see what you guys all have to report about the DLC.
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I’m still eager to see if there’s a grid capacity increase. The way their logic is, having SOPHY drive in the rain, be on your endurance team and have more SOPHY cars on circuit being contained in the DLC.
 
I’m still eager to see if there’s a grid capacity increase. The way their logic is, having SOPHY drive in the rain, be on your endurance team and have more SOPHY cars on circuit being contained in the DLC.
I am hoping for all this.

I am also concerned about Sophy being considerably better than me in fuel and tire usage. This is gonna add up in endurance races.

Very excited nonetheless and I will be breaking my F5 button tomorrow.
 
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I am hoping for all this.

I am also concerned about Sophy being considerably better than me in fuel and tire usage. This is gonna add up in endurance races.

Very excited nonetheless and I will be breaking my F5 button tomorrow.
There's already noticeable slowdown during the replays with camera angles that show the full grid. It's going to be a challenge to have more cars. Would be great!!! I'd love to see it. I'd love DOUBLE the grid!!! Really build out those multiclass races...but I doubt it.
 
I'm just hoping with Sophy 3.0, the new events in the Power-Pack could could include some decent oval racing. No Ovals currently have Sophy, as it wasn't built for it, but with a whole new version, I've got my fingers crossed. A 'Daytona 500' type event would be awesome.
I've tried to create my own custom races, using tuned 60's & 70's muscle cars, but the pack usually splits into clusters of 6-9 cars, and they don't behave as hoped.
I did that for a while,...not just 60's & 70's cars,most Corvettes,Bugatti's and quite a few others. You have to put a generic set-up on every car,set top speed,etc ,100 laps,and i had some very good races,win or lose by mere seconds. One thing that threw off some cars was how much they slowed when the tires started to wear(maybe need top speed adjustment)but i'm sure more tweaking would improve the races,but overall it was very fun.
 
There's already noticeable slowdown during the replays with camera angles that show the full grid. It's going to be a challenge to have more cars. Would be great!!! I'd love to see it. I'd love DOUBLE the grid!!! Really build out those multiclass races...but I doubt it.
Man we need 25 cars at least hopefully for GT8..
 
Of all the people prevaricating here, you are the one who's 100% gonna end up buying this DLC. And PMR. Bookmark this. 🤣

What you're overlooking is that there's good and bad in amost everything. It might be a good party to some people, or a not-so-good party to others, and the people at the party can all give their opinions. But at least they're all at the party, having a lot of fun, or just a bit.
But think now about the people standing outside at the window, in the rain, looking in and hoping, wishing for it to be a bad party because they're not part of it, on the phone telling their mates it's a bad party and sneering at all the people inside for being there having, or just trying to have, a good time.
I have genuine pity for anyone without the money to buy the DLC, or a PS5, or whatever (even PMR), but for anyone who can afford it/them (and that's most people, probably you) it's better for them to join the fun than come across as some kind of disgruntled voyeur wishing for things to fail because they're not part of it.
Just get the DLC. And PMR. You know you want to, and you know you're going to too. Nobody's making more posts about them than you.
I won’t be. PMR, only if they sort out some things. The DLC is going to have to be priced to my tastes and bring something other than what I see. Mostly AI populated online lobbies which is probably a no.

Go ahead and bookmark it. I’ve been mostly disappointed by both. Spec III can’t complain, we’re getting two new tracks. The cars are just so so for me. Was hoping something different for the DLC.
 
That’s the thing. It’s optional. We don’t know if the DLC Gift cars transfer to World Circuit. So, players that don’t buy the DLC might not miss out.
The only thing it seems like players that don’t purchase the DLC will miss out is the experience.
 
That’s the thing. It’s optional. We don’t know if the DLC Gift cars transfer to World Circuit. So, players that don’t buy the DLC might not miss out.
The only thing it seems like players that don’t purchase the DLC will miss out is the experience.
I haven’t really looked into it much but it mostly just comes off as more single player races with better AI. The races don’t interest me one bit. It’ll depend on what Sophy 3.0 is all about. Maybe I should fire up GT7 tomorrow and try some races against the latest Sophy. I do so little single player it might not be of any value to me.
 
I haven’t really looked into it much but it mostly just comes off as more single player races with better AI. The races don’t interest me one bit. It’ll depend on what Sophy 3.0 is all about. Maybe I should fire up GT7 tomorrow and try some races against the latest Sophy. I do so little single player it might not be of any value to me.
That’s why I mean anyone can skip it. It may not carry over to the main game. Same way Missions don’t. Those are more single player races as well.
go wheel-to-wheel in heart-pounding, tail-to-nose battles against Gran Turismo Sophy 3.0, the latest evolution of our advanced AI racer—available exclusively in the Power Pack.
Kaz is saying what he said, “We wanted to bring this realistic and hardcore racing to Gran Turismo at least once.”
 
That’s why I mean anyone can skip it. It may not carry over to the main game. Same way Missions don’t. Those are more single player races as well.

Kaz is saying what he said, “We wanted to bring this realistic and hardcore racing to Gran Turismo at least once.”
I suggested awhile ago if they could get Sophy to drive at the players level based on the players lap times that would make for really good racing. They did show qualifying so it hints at that. Won’t buy until I know more but to me that is key because everybody is always chasing the AI one way or another. It’s too slow or it’s too fast. There hasn’t been any way to get it to drive on the players skill level whether they’re a total pro or never even played the game.

If this is the case, could lead to some funny races too. Totally botched your qualifying and see them crawling around the track. But ideally you’d run your best laps. It takes n average and there you go.

It’s most likely a pipe dream though.
 
PD do surprises well™

I can't recall anyone knowing about the Lewis Hamilton Time Trial coming. It was a hit and miss with many players. The PP DLC might be the same, but this DLC was indeed a surprise.
 
PD do surprises well™

I can't recall anyone knowing about the Lewis Hamilton Time Trial coming. It was a hit and miss with many players. The PP DLC might be the same, but this DLC was indeed a surprise.
It was a surprise. Not much longer before the speculation is dropped and we find out what it’s all about.

I think we have a pretty good idea I just hope there’s some key things that weren’t mentioned just to hype it some more. Gonna take a lot for me to drop the cash on it.

Now I wonder, are they done with track updates or are we going to see tracks until the release of GT8. Tracks really prolong the life of a racing game.
 
This feels like a very negative way to go about life. And that's coming from me, who most people I know in real life accuse me of being overly negative and a bummer lol

I think what really helped me have a different outlook on video games was hearing and reading stories from developers. Watching things like Indie Game: The Movie or following Giant Bomb (I haven't watched them for a long time; it's different these days) for like a decade where they'd have many friends/guests on who were developers or the guys would share second hand accounts from private, privileged conversations (similar to what @Famine was touching on) about a game that came out. Hearing the horror stories. This isn't the correct thread for it, but like everyone dumping on Ian Bell as if everything is under his control and rides on his shoulders. For all we know, he had a production timeline set up that involved fixing all these issues etc pre-release, and then the publisher was like SURPRISE! You need to release this 3 months earlier than we talked about. Or we are pulling half your staff onto another project for the last 3 months. Deal with it.

So all of those potential nightmares could be happening at PD. Unexpected deaths, peoples parental leaves, financial reasons and losing your house, license deals falling through, milestones changing, SIE surprising them with different ultimatums etc etc. When you actually understand how hard and complex it is to make video games these days, it's a miracle anything comes out at all. And in the end, they are just video games. If an employee needs to leave work or take a vacation or family emergency or whatever infinite possibility you can think of, so that they can attend to that situation, is more important than a virtual car or track or feature coming to a game a day or two or a patch cycle later. **** happens.

Edit: Heres a great series as well: Double Fine Dev Documentary Series. And before I get a bunch of "Polyphony isn't an indie dev!", it doesn't matter. When you hear the second hand stories from devs who've worked on huge AAA productions like Call of Duty or a Sony first party title, it's not totally different. It comes with it's own crazy set of hoops and hurdles.

Also, I finally realized the word I had been thinking about in relation to the paid and free DLC: Subsidized. Yes, the tracks and cars are coming free with Spec 3, but the DLC could basically be subsidizing the cost of those.

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That is how I choose to believe this is all happening. I fall back on the nothing-is-free notion here. Somehow money is coming from somewhere to pay for those licenses and dev time.
Great post.

Regarding subsidies one could look at base game vs updates and dlc like at a completely new show on a streaming service vs a new season for an existing show.

Completely new show is to acquire new subscribers. Additional seasons are are to retain existing ones. They barely make any money directly but without the promise of new seasons in the feature less new potential subscribers would come die to one guaranteed season of a promising new show.

New game sells copies (and to an extent consoles and psn subscriptions and for some games recurring in game purchases), dlc sells itself (direct revenue as well plus upselling into new console for some) whereas free updates keep existing owners happy and engaged for recurring psn subscriptions, potential in game micro transactions (probably negligible for GT7) and continued loyalty to the franchise and console system.

You are absolutely right that every bit of content has the expectation to earn studio and publisher more money than it costs them to produce it. The actual flow of this money might be hard to attribute to each individual piece of content but at least that's what their business plans predict.
That’s the thing. It’s optional. We don’t know if the DLC Gift cars transfer to World Circuit. So, players that don’t buy the DLC might not miss out.
The only thing it seems like players that don’t purchase the DLC will miss out is the experience.
 
It was a surprise. Not much longer before the speculation is dropped and we find out what it’s all about.

I think we have a pretty good idea I just hope there’s some key things that weren’t mentioned just to hype it some more. Gonna take a lot for me to drop the cash on it.

Now I wonder, are they done with track updates or are we going to see tracks until the release of GT8. Tracks really prolong the life of a racing game.

I think there is a big chance for at least one track in 2026.

My bet is for Motegi it was leaked that PD is scanning it some time ago.
 
I’ll probably pick up the dlc at some point but I haven’t played gt7 for months. I’ll will wait and see what it’s like and get it in the new year
 
When the DLC was announced, a German YouTuber made a video I watched. The YouTuber was talking about €10 and I left a message, saying that I'm afraid it will be more.
Today I woke up to an answer to my comment. The answer was "59.95". No idea if just a guess or it already leaked somewhere.
 
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No way, des glaub i ned. (=I can't believe that).
 
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