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Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by ak101, Aug 9, 2012.
That deserves a thread seriously
Point is it makes the game unnecessarily more complex while adding no fun or insight element into it.
That's one of the reasons why I think car wear should be removed (so oil change, chassis and engine restoration are snatched), others being GT auto is the worst menu conceived by mankind and deterioration makes it difficult to race under similar conditions or try cars at their best form.
The game would be more realistic if there were speed limits on Toscana tarmac and crashes made cars permanently unusable, but who wants those.
I agree on GT auto being one of the worst menu's in recent gaming, that's why this tread is about making improvements on GT Auto.
Why would I want to look through 20 different oils that do basically the same thing? That's ridiculous. More power? Better fuel economy? Yeah by probably on or two HP/MPG. Having to look through multiple oil that do basically the sane thing would make GTAuto way more annoying than it already is.
I always edit posts a little.
My idea is to remove GT auto entirely. Paint shop and the rest go into the tuning submenu (one not two), oil change and the other 2 are simply out of the game.
Imagine being able to completely tune and paint cars in-game. Or even better, replacing the current offline system (3 minutes to change one car and track) with the online one, in which all is done in-game exception being GT auto.
I remember watching a live stream with the very first "street fighter 3 third strike online edition" (longest name ever) demonstration. The crowd (almost) went nuts when they showed that in the in-game pause menu there were pictures of each character, hinting it was now possible to change characters immediately without going through the same menus over and over, but it was just a glorified special moves menu.
Features I would like to see in GT6's GT Auto
Body & Chassis Restoration (damage fix)
Brake Pad & Rotor change
Oil & Filter Change
Some may see this as extreme but I think it would give a better sense of ownership if you have to maintain your cars to this degree
The problem with different oils, if it is cheap enough, people will always buy the best oil. Lets say the base oil is 50cr, and the mid performance is 100cr, and the top being 150cr. Since it's only 100cr more than base to get high performance, who would waste their money on base, or mid? They should make it so different cars require different oils. A Fiat 500 would be the base 50cr, and an Audi R8 Prototype would be the high performance oil.
If that's the case lets add mine, Vquick's and others. All are GT auto material.
Manually replacing tires after punctures
Replace our windshield wipers
When you take a car in for an oil change at GT Auto, the mechanics should come up to you with a list of other work they recommend you do. Transmission fluid flush, coolant system flush, blinker fluid flush, power steering fluid replacement and oh, your air filter is dirty. It'll only be 6000cr to take care of that, and we can have it done for you in six hours.
Breathalyzer before playing
Le mans start
Your fiance chooses which car to get, not you
Getting a license suspension
Exchange insurance information after a crash
Search cars for months (trim levels, colors and all that)
Salvage & rebuilt titles
Property taxes on land for your garage
Choosing and hiring mechanics. Inspect tires and suspension condition. More than one garage and multiple GTauto shops. Repleted garage space.
Going to the shop to buy oil
Manually checking fluid levels. For example windshield wipers won't work properly without its fluid.
Idle warming up cars on-track
Passing the vehicle inspection before the first usage and every year
Driving restrictions on cars without a catalytic converter
Interior cleaning mini game
Crashes make cars permanently unusable
Tamagotchi-like GT. Don't take care of your car = it dies. Related to changing oil.
Cars can get robbed. Hire security.
Install full beam lights, Harnesses, new pedals, seats, radios and gps, strobe lights
License plate editor
Fix oil leaks and rust
Build a car from scratch (Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust)
I think you worry too much about being at any disadvantage. In Formula 1 not everyone races on a fresh engine, but some do. Racing in general is made up of cars on different parts. Dan Wheldon won his last Indy 500 with a car that was 5 years old. Richer teams can afford to rebuild their engines more often, smaller teams have to run longer on the same parts.
In real racing hardly anybody has equal equipment at any time.
The point of GT Life is to give the feeling of car ownership, which includes maintenance, and which can be expanded upon. If you remove oil change, car wash, engine rebuild, and other things like that suddenly theres no pointing in owning cars. Gran Turismo should be like PC sims and have every car available from the start, all of them identical, all of them with no mileage or the ability to gain mileage. No oil change, just lifeless copies.
This means no garage. Enter a race and choose from a list of cars all with identical specs and in identical condition, like Arcade mode.
Sounds kind of boring to me.
Problem is none of these affect the performance of the car so aren't really needed.
New thread title that covers all of GT Auto not just engine oil and filters.
Check out new description and let's get serious about this!
Stop bumping the thread mate.
Not even proper simulators....simulate all that. They understand it's a game after all, no matter how realistic or expensive it is, so almost all "anti-fun" elements of car ownership and racing are not included.
Moreover, the GT series has never been one and that's not what PD wants it to be (or should). They aim at it being accessible while at the same time providing a good experience for "hardcore" guys at the same time. That's a "simcade", but somehow you want it to be more hardcore and unnecessarily complex than all "sims" combined.
And my silly suggestions are all GT auto material and make the game more realistic. Point is they are as silly as having several oil types, or having to change it in first place or all what you listed recently, which could be 100x more in quantity and 10x more drastic if you want a true sense of ownership.
edit: The "Things You Want To See In GT6 Besides Cars and Tracks" thread is pure gold. Lots of awful ideas.
Please read GT Auto new thread description with additional features. Thanks
Any need of this.
Maybe not to you.
Don't think bumping threads is a good idea, but let's run with this for a bit.
Which spark plugs are better NGK or Champion?
Which HT leads are the best?
What do I do I my car is misfiring?
If I change the leads and it's not that do I get a refund?
Do I have to change my plugs or can I sandblast and re-gap them?
What about more modern cars with engine management systems, can I alter them too?. (Voids warrenty BTW.
Do bulbs expire?
Do random faults occur.
keeping yourself busy?
No, just no.
Other threads are also open that may interest you. Your bored go have some fresh air. What's the weather sayin out there?
Locking this as you can't just change the topic of a thread half way through. The first half of the thread now makes no sense.