(IRS) International Racing Series Main Hub | New Drivers Welcome

Welcome to the home of IRS. We are a group of racers who like close competition and having fun racing. We will run multiple series from this group, including touring car racing, gt racing, endurance racing and open-wheel racing. We have previously raced on GT5 and GT6 as ARS, and have run many different series including IROC, NASCAR, Indy Lights, Super GT, and GT3 series. You can find more information about the ARS here. We like all motorsports from NASCAR to F1 and all stops in between. We are a laid back group, you can find us online most nights racing, practicing, talking about racing, and telling jokes. We try to run a fair and tight ship. We pride ourselves in helping each other with setup and driving tips. Everyone is welcome to join the group, veterans or beginners. We currently have events running Sunday afternoon at 2:30 pm eastern, Monday night at 9 pm eastern, Friday night at 9 pm eastern, and Saturday night at 9 pm eastern.

Series Organizers/Stewards
@aceboy127, @Clean Racer, @damonc84, @DesertPenguin

BOP Manager
@Herimopp89

Current/Upcoming Series and Special Events

Main Series
(GTS) Indy Lights Season 6 - Saturday Night 9 pm Eastern

Development Series
(GTS) Roadster Cup Season 5 - Friday Night 9 pm Eastern
(GTS) Fugu-Z Race Meets - Monday Night 9 pm Eastern

Special Events
(GTS) 2020 Interlagos Endurance - Friday Night 9 pm Eastern - Date TBD

Past Series and Champions
(GTS) IROC Series Season 5 Champion: @rap129
(GTS) Superbug Sprint Series Season 1 Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Kart Series Season 1 Champion: @seslab
(GTS) Pirelli Touring Car Challenge Season 1 TCR Champion: @Miguelinho
(GTS) Pirelli Touring Car Challenge Season 1 TC Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Pirelli Touring Car Challenge Season 1 TCA Champion: @CAB114
(GTS) Yokohama Prototype Series Season 1 Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Bridgestone World Karting Championship Season 2: @_ApexPredator
(GTS) Indy Lights Season 5: @Antares26
(GTS) MX-5 Cup Season 3: @aceboy127
(GTS) Superbug Series Season 2: @Antares26
(GTS) VW Scirocco Cup Season 1: @bloodyboyblue
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TA Champion: @RoadRageDudez
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TA2 Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TA3 Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TCR Champion: @CAB114
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TC Champion: @Herimopp89
(GTS) Trans Am World Challenge Season 2 TCA Champion: @TetsuKobura
(GTS) Yokohama RallyX Championship Season 1 Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge Season 1 Pro Champion: @Antares26
(GTS) Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge Season 1 Am Champion: @aceboy127
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 1 Champion: @Clean Racer
(GTS) IROC Series Season 6 Champion: @aceboy127
(GTS) Mazda TC Challenge Season 4 Champion: @DesertPenguin
Renault Sport Trophy Season 1 Pro Champion: @Antares26
Renault Sport Trophy Season 1 Am Champion: @DesertPenguin
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 2 Pro Champion: @Timlour
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 2 Pro-Am Champion: @Canita
(GTS) Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge Season 2 Pro Champion: @TNR_5zigen
(GTS) Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge Season 2 Am Champion: @Granadier
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 3 Pro Champion: @Timlour
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 3 Pro-Am Champion: @Clean Racer
(GTS) GT2 Championship Season 1 Champion: @Neutty
(GTS) Michelin Prototype Series Season 2 Division 1 Champion: @Whitetail
(GTS) Michelin Prototype Series Season 2 Division 2 Champion: @Kross24
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 4 Pro Champion: @R1600Turbo
(GTS) GT4 Championship Series Season 4 Pro-Am Champion: @Clean Racer

Spoiler: A.R.S. Past Series and Champions (GT5 and GT6)

(GT5) IROC Series Season 1 Champion: @aceboy127
(GT5) IROC Series Season 2 Champion: @Bowtie52
(GT6) IROC Series Season 3 Champion: @racefan88
(GT6) IROC Series Season 4 Champion: @aceboy127
(GT5) Sprint Cup Series Season 1 Champion: @TrackBound7
(GT5) Sprint Cup Series Season 2 Champion: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) Sprint Cup Series Season 3 Champion: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) Sprint Cup Series Season 4 Champion: @Bowtie52
(GT6) Indy Lights Season 1 Champion: @racefan88
(GT6) Indy Lights Season 2 Champion: @aceboy127
(GT6) Indy Lights Season 3 Champion: @jammy21
(GT6) Indy Lights Season 4 Champion: @aceboy127
(GT6) Roadster Summer Series Season 1 Champion: @jammy21
(GT6) MX-5 Cup Season 2 Champion: @Dylan
(GT6) Super GT Series Season 1 GT500 Champion: @Whitetail
(GT6) Super GT Series Season 1 GT300 Champion: @lllTrick
(GT6) GT Series Season 1 Champion: @Ph1sh
(GT6) Lancer Cup Season 1 Champion: @nascarfan1400

Past Special Events and Winners
(GTS) 2018 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Winner: @GTP_Versatile
(GTS) 2018 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP2 Winner: @MSgtGunny
(GTS) 2018 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Pro Winner: @Whitetail
(GTS) 2018 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Am Winner: @TheGeologist
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Nurburgring GT3 Winner: @Freddude
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Nurburgring Cup Winner: @TetsuKobura
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Pro Winner: @Storm_SP17
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Am Winner: @Timlour
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP2 Winner: @TetsuKobura
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Elite Winner: @Whitetail
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Pro Winner: @damonc84
(GTS) 2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Am Winner: @GTP_Guido
(GTS) 2019 2 Hours of Interlagos CN Winner: @FD3SSpiritR
(GTS) 2019 2 Hours of Interlagos GT2 Winner: @bloodyboyblue
(GTS) 2019 2 Hours of Interlagos GT4 Winner: @R1600Turbo
(GTS) 2020 4 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Winner: @TNR_5zigen
(GTS) 2020 4 Hours of Le Mans LMP2 Winner: @Eh Team
(GTS) 2020 4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Pro Winner: @Neutty
(GTS) 2020 4 Hours of Le Mans GTE Am Winner: @ElementRacer

Spoiler: A.R.S. Past Special Events and Winners (GT5 and GT6)

(GT5) A.R.S. IROC Series Season 2 All Star Race Winner: @TrackBound7
(GT6) A.R.S. IROC Series Season 3 All Star Race Winner: @rap129
(GT6) A.R.S. IROC Series Season 4 All Star Race Winner: @killerclown19
(GT5) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 2 All Star Race Winner: @TrackBound7
(GT6) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 3 All Star Race Winner: @rap129
(GT6) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 4 All Star Race Winner: @LLOYDZELITE69
(GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series Season 2 All Star Race Winner: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series Season 3 All Star Race Winner: @jammy21
(GT6) A.R.S. IROC Series Season 3 ARS Shootout Winner: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) A.R.S. IROC Series Season 4 ARS Shootout Winner: @Michelin
(GT5) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 2 ARS Shootout Winner: @racefan88
(GT6) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 3 ARS Shootout Winner: @AngryEater
(GT6) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series Season 4 Sprint Unlimited 125 Winner: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series Season 1 Preseason Race Indy Winner: @Sassafrass_3
(GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series Season 2 Preseason Race High Speed Ring Winner: @Bowtie52
(GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series Season 3 Preseason Race High Speed Ring Winner: @jammy21
(GT6) A.R.S. 2016 2.4 Hours of Daytona LMP Winner: @Whitetail
(GT6) A.R.S. 2016 2.4 Hours of Daytona GT Winner: @CAB114
(GT6) A.R.S. 2017 2.4 Hours of Daytona LMP Winner: @Ph1sh
(GT6) A.R.S. 2017 2.4 Hours of Daytona GT Winner: @Whitetail
(GT6) A.R.S. 2017 Indianapolis 500 Winner: @Dylan
(GT6) A.R.S. 2017 2.4 Hours of Le Mans LMP Winner: @Whitetail
(GT6) A.R.S. 2017 2.4 Hours of Le Mans GT Winner: @nascarfan1400

IRS Discord Server
Calender​

 

International Racing Series Driver List​

@aceboy127, @Alan_2134, @AngryEater, @Antares26, @Arielsharon, @Aron Baker, @bloodyboyblue, @bigbeefytaco, @CAB114, @Clean Racer, @damonc84, @Demon2139, @DesertPenguin, @Dylan, @ElevenSeven, @GTP_Guido, @GTP_Nail, @Herimopp89, @Jw_wk1010, @Karlbfc21, @kpstormie, @Kross24, @micantony, @Michelin, @Miguelinho, @Mikhail24RD, @nascarfan1400, @Neyrox, @Nick Cannella, @nico4711, @Pigems, @quentin1974, @R1600Turbo, @racefan88, @racer_xis, @rap, @RoadRageDudez, @SDM_Viper, @SRT DK Racing, @TetsuKobura, @TexasJDC, @TNR_5zigen, @TNR_KING_FILO, @TrackBound7, @WanganGhost, @Whitetail, @Whitey093

Spoiler: Inactive Drivers

@_ApexPredator, @Bowtie52, @cbcvabch, @Cnastynikka, @FeloneousMonk, @FlyinHawaiian77, @GranTurismo916, @greestlightnin, @jammy21, @JVittone, @killerclown19, @lllTrick, @Mitchman9, @o0Maxx0o, @OriginalCheezIt, @Ph1sh, @PropFouler, @Sassafrass_3, @Searays2, @seslab, @swiftsmith

International Racing Series Driver Statistics

International Racing Series Driver Rankings
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Notes:

1. The Driver List is limited to drivers who have made more than 5 starts.

 

Common Rules and Regulations

Spoiler: Sporting Guidelines

• Every driver is expected to adhere to the gtplanet forums code of conduct.
• Public verbal attacks against any IRS member, whether thru the forums, in-game lobbies, or voice chats is strictly prohibited.
• During races, use of the in-game chat for any reason besides communicating with race officials is strictly prohibited.
• IRS reserves the right to punish any of its members should they exhibit disruptive, offensive behavior that ruins the experience of others.

Spoiler: Driving Standards

• Clean, fair racing is always expected from all drivers.
• Contact between cars is permitted so long as contact does not result in another car going off track, damage to another car, or any outcome where contact is deemed excessive.
• When defending track position, drivers are only allowed to make one move in defense. Excessive defending constitutes to illegal blocking.
• Overtakes are expected to be done fairly and cleanly. Overtaking drivers are expected to use their better judgment to ascertain whether they have gained control of the racing line.
• If contact is made that results in another car going off-track, the offending car is expected to surrender track position to the other car involved in the incident as soon as possible.
• A car rejoining the track after going off-track must rejoin the track in a safe manner. Approaching cars will have the right of way over cars that are rejoining.
• Heavily damaged cars are expected to stay off the racing line until they get back to the pits for repairs (for Heavy damage settings), or until the auto-repair completes (for Light damage settings). Cars coming around heavily damaged cars are expected to safely get around these cars.
• Lapped cars are expected to give way to faster cars at the soonest possible opportunity and are not allowed to interfere with any on-track battles between faster cars. It is the responsibility of lapped cars to be aware of faster traffic coming through. Lapped cars deemed to have impeded faster traffic will be penalized.
• Driving backwards on track is always strictly prohibited and results in an immediate disqualification and possible suspension from the series and/or the organization.
• All cars are expected to be moving forward on track unless recovering from an incident.
• Bump drafting is permitted on all tracks within reasonable circumstances.
• Intentional or payback actions will be harshly penalized.

Spoiler: Track Limits

• At least two tires must always be kept within track limits.
• Generally, track limits are represented by either the white lines or the kerbs wherever present on track. However, these rules may be adjusted depending on the track and in doing so will be properly specified by the series organizer.
• A car with two tires on the defined track limits is already considered having two tires off-track.
• If a car gains an advantage by going over track limits, drivers are expected to reduce speed just enough to negate any potential advantage gained. Repeated instances of gaining an advantage by exceeding track limits results in a penalty.
• Any overtake done by exceeding track limits is considered an illegal overtake and any offending are cars expected to immediately return the position(s) gained. The only exception to this rule is when the overtake is performed in avoidance of an accident that occurred ahead.
• Crossing the white lines at pit entry and/or pit exit results in a penalty.

Spoiler: Penalties

• Causing a collision: 30s penalty
• Illegal blocking: 10s penalty
• Illegal overtake: 20s penalty
• Unsafe rejoin on track: 15s penalty
• Impeding faster traffic: 20s penalty
• Gaining advantage by exceeding track limits: 15s penalty
• Crossing Pit Entry line: 20s penalty
• Crossing Pit Exit line: 20s penalty
• Poor Driving Standards*
• Unsportsmanlike Behavior*

Penalties for Poor Driving Standards and Unsportsmanlike Behavior will be at the discretion of IRS officials, and can range between a number of race suspensions or outright ban from the series and/or the organization.

Universal BoP

Spoiler: GT2 Specs

Spoiler: GTE Specs

Spoiler: Indy Lights Specs

Spoiler: IROC Specs

Spoiler: Kart Specs

Spoiler: LMP1 Specs

Spoiler: LMP2 Specs

Spoiler: Roadster Cup

Spoiler: Superbug Specs

Spoiler: TC Specs

Spoiler: TCA Specs

Spoiler: TCR Specs

Notes:

• Just because a class has a BoP does not mean it will be used in an upcoming series.
• All BoP is subject to change at anytime.

 

Race Videos

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS IROC Series Season 5

Spoiler: Videos Courtesy of aceboy127

Spoiler: Video Courtesy of nascarfan1400

Blue Moon 200 (On-board)

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Superbug Series Season 1

Spoiler: Video courtesy of aceboy127

Round 3 (On-board)

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Kart Series Season 1

Spoiler: Videos Courtesy of aceboy127

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Antares

Brands Hatch GP Main (On-Board)
Suzuka GP Main (On-Board)
Willow Springs GP Main (On-Board)

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Dylan

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Touring Car Challenge Season 1

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of aceboy127

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Yokohama Prototype Series Season 1

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of aceboy127

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Bridgestone Karting Series Season 2

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of aceboy127

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr2u6EhkDA4qqLkezofOSk6Pg_s0ot4Jw

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Blancpain Intercontinental GT Challenge Season 1

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of aceboy127

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr2u6EhkDA4qiQQkfTeVAOaAiYdYCFKBG

Spoiler: (GTS) IRS Single Races

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of aceboy127

2018 2.4 Hours of Le Mans (On-board)
2019 2.4 Hours of Le Mans (On-board)

Spoiler: (GT5) A.R.S. Sprint Cup Series

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Sassafrass_3

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCp22csjLdA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALkHsNcg4c4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1SkpI56gK4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNjDNByTDqU

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. Indy Lights Series

Spoiler: Video courtesy of Sassafrass_3

www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7aaJJNIYLA

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. Roadster Summer Series/MX-5 Cup

Spoiler: Video courtesy of Ph1sh

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ3rwpmrajI

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. Super GT Series

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Ph1sh

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz2zyFu6gwA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHC9AnmMwYQ

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. Lancer Cup Season 1

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Ph1sh

1 Hour of Spa (On-board)
30 Minutes of Silverstone (On-board)
30 Minutes of Nurburgring (On-board)

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. GT Series Season 1

Spoiler: Videos courtesy of Ph1sh

2.4 Hours of Spa (On-board)
1.5 Hours of Silverstone (On-board)
1.5 Hours of Nurburgring (On-board)

Spoiler: (GT6) A.R.S. Single Races

Spoiler: Video courtesy of Whitetail

2017 Indy 500 (Commentary)

Spoiler: Channel Links

@aceboy127's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0ZX-7ongIuB8oQB8TSgR9A
@Antares26's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Antares26Games
@Dylan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnUUlSn775LWQGCuUkUlgNQ
@nascarfan1400's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9H-CJQcSuFgzFk-Y1LiwaA
@Ph1sh's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPSE_UEvFmC78VW52jBbByQ
@Sassafrass_3's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBqpSfeg18smVGeR2NJ44Lw
@Whitetail's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7tqoLjpp3uTapPMQa7KqZA

Disclaimer: If you have a IRS race video you would like to add to the collection please let me know I and will get it added as soon as possible.

 

A new era begins. Looks great @aceboy127 I'll keep my eyes open

 

Hey everyone. I would like to announce that the Superbug Championship run by @Antares26 will be run under the IRS banner. This will be the first of at least 3 series announcements coming before the end of 2017. Please all stay tuned to the thread for further updates. I cannot wait to see you all on track for 2018.

 

New name, new thread huh? Cool! Can't wait to get back to some league races!

Past Special Events and Winners spoiler is missing the 2017 A.R.S. Indianapolis 500.

 

Yeah same here, cannot wait to reveal what other series we will be running in 2018.

Yeah I know, there are a few things missing, that was all copied from the old ARS thread. I added what I remembered at the time. lol

 

Here they are, the car's for planned series in 2018. I cannot wait to get these started this year. Plan for announcements in the near future further detailing the plans for these series.

 

Developement Series Announcement

Starting this year the IRS is going to be running a new program of sorts. We will be running developement series, which will be in a similar vein to our main series. We are planning to limit entries to new drivers to the IRS or GTP in general and plan to also allow inexperienced drivers into these series to gain more experience for the main series. We are also planning on adopting a driver ranking system, which will allow drivers to improve their ranking to be put into the main series or have drivers sent back to improve their ranking to be moved back up to the main series. I will likely go into more details later, but this is the just of it.

Lastly, we are planning some series announcements this week. I cannot wait to share with you all what we have in store for you this year and I hope to see you all on track soon.

Thanks,
Ace

 

Thread is open for IROC Series Season 5.

 

Thread is open for the GRMN Cup Season 1

 

Thread for the Superbug Championship will be relaunched in the coming week. Right now the series name itself is tentative now that it's officially running under IRS but the only thing I can confirm for the series right now is that it will still involve the Beetle Gr.3, the timeslot will be on Friday nights GMT, and that instead of the 90 minute races of the original concept, it will now be a multirace series consisting of two 30 minute races for each race weekend.

 

Thread is open for the Superbug Sprint Series.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...series-fridays-10pm-gmt-sign-ups-open.374594/

 

International Racing Series Announcement​

International Racing Series (IRS) has just announced they will be adopting the TCR regulations for two upcoming series in 2018. League owner Ace had this to say. “The IRS is very excited to be adopting the TCR regulations for two brand new series in 2018. I am very excited about the developments taking place within the group right now and cannot wait to see what will happen moving forward.” Those looking to find more information on the TCR class can look here.

Ace also confirmed that BoP for TCR would soon commence, “The plan for the TCR class and other classes moving forward will be to have a universal BoP, in which any IRS series that chooses to use a certain class like TCR can do so with little to no BoP testing needed.” This information should come as a relief for series organizers, who in the past had to do their own BoP testing.

In addition to having a universal BoP for the TCR class, Ace also confirmed base liveries are on the way. “We have decided to make it a bit easier for the teams competing in a certain class to acquire the needed logos and decals for series, by making a base livery. Base liveries will not be restricted on what you can add, but they will be a template of sorts for every team to start out with.” Ace stated base liveries will contain appropriate number plates for the class, appropriate decals for the series, manufacturer logos, and other potential important items.

Finally, when asked about the status of the development series, Ace had this to say. “I know the first series was not a success, but there are many factors to running a successful series. I know the day the development series was scheduled to take place was not ideal, but I know that can be adjusted depending on feedback from other drivers and teams. Other factors may have contributed here as well, but I can confirm we have a plan going forward on how to avoid that again.”

Now we couldn’t let Ace go without getting some further details on upcoming series. “I know a lot of the drivers and teams were wondering what could possibly be coming next, but I can confirm that they will have to wait a bit longer as an official reveal will be coming in the next couple weeks. I will however announce that we do have a new development series in the works and that will be the IRS Kart Series Season 1, further details on that will be released within a week or so.” There you have it everyone.

That will wrap things up here. With announcements about the TCR class, base liveries, development series, and Karting Series. This has been a big news day for the IRS. Thank you all for reading and have a wonderful day.

 

I've been out from GT Sport for many weeks as of late due to a flu and ear infection. Getting better but figured I'd update you guys why I haven't been showing up

Hope the series is going well

 

Thanks for letting us know Ph1shman, hope you get better soon. Everything is good over here, just 2 rounds left of IROC.

 

I am looking to recruit some man power for BoP. If you are interested please send me a PM and we can discuss the details further. FYI, BoP will need to be done in approx. 1 month.

 

Double Post Ahhh!!!
Stats are now posted up in the 2nd post. Results for all the races up until now are included.

 

We should do Indy 500 race on project car 2 in may for Indy 500 race

 

I think someone need to make F1 series with F1 car

 

Hey guys, probably going to be online tonight testing some new stuff. Feel free to join tonight.

 

What's next in the IRS chapter? Starscream Enterprises might be looking to start a proper programme after decent success in IROC 5

 

Well, The Karting Series thread should be posted up later this week or early next week. After that I am looking to make an official announcement regarding the upcoming Touring Car Series.

 

Thread is now open for the Kart Series Season 1.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/irs-kart-series-season-1-fridays-9pm-eastern.376364/

 

*Insert hell yeah gif here*

 

I missed bowtie

 

Driver Rankings Posted.

 

Curious as to why I'm grouped in crystal when I have over 40 starts in the former ARS League.

Or is crystal just counting the races that are run under the IRS banner and the other three tiers are counting all starts between the ARS League?

I'm also curious about the criteria for each rank.

 

I share the same questions. I believe that previous starts should carry over and drivers be ranked as such, especially since the ‘past series’ are in the OP. How can all of those people have wins and championships and all of a sudden are a rookie all over again?