I haven't played TT in years, even with the PS2 still hooked up and used now and then. Basically the only reason I still mention and praise TT is because of the bolded part of your post. I would not have even clicked on this thread to read your post if not for the fact that Ride 3 launched recently and I was curious what people are saying about MotoGP 18 by comparison. I have little desire to ride MotoGP bikes on MotoGP circuits; I want to ride bikes with lights and mirrors and plates, small bikes, oldschool bikes, and non-sport bikes, on tracks that include roads, all with a simulation focus instead of the more common arcade-style games with bikes. In short, TT still gets mentioned because it was the only "Gran Turismo for motorcycles" in its day, and there's still nothing else but the Ride franchise today. I don't want to go play TT -- I want Ride to fulfill its potential and finish off eclipsing TT as the premier "Gran Turismo for motorcycles".