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Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by bwanabud, Aug 30, 2018.
And those races are the same one repeated. Every day for weeks. Again, that's grinding.
Agreed! If you are repeating it with the same car, same set up time after time it’s grinding! If, however, you are doing it with different cars each time then I guess it isn’t grinding. Just my 2p (I’m from the UK )
If anyone knows of a way to do it or if it is possible they can have my credits I have about 6m I made when I played the game a while back. Now I just use the Mazda 787b (I think it is) from the last upgrade (My son bought it me from some psn site) was only about £3.00 and all I do is go on the time trial/practice and drive until I beat my previous lap time. Have no interest in the rest of the game it is to hard for me.
So, from what we have:
330 P4 - very fast
XJ13 - slightly slower, but more stable
GT Mk.IV - like XJ, but heavier
Cobra Daytona - slower than the alternatives
What about 250 GTO (if you've driven it ofc)?
Slowest of all... But wery agile and fun to drive...
BTW MkIV feels faster then XJ13.
There was a race in GT2 that I remember having like a ~250ish hp limit. I would always take the Spoon S2000, but I just could not keep up with a GT40 ai car. Go and buy a GT40, but it has 300hp so you can't use it. It was frustrating for a kid.
Won the Jag xj13 from the wheel of repeats - used that to win. It was easy. Never thought about grinding this one - would be good for a change. I race almost all of the Professional series, switching up cars of lower N class to optimize points, but also a little challenge - like the 2000gt at N200.
I'll get the Jag out again - I love flying down the back straight!
And, yes, call me crazy - I bought and SOLD the 330 P4! Hated that car - gotta drive what you love.
A few weeks ago I was at the 20 million credit limit, and I was still winning races with the same car at the same track and I don't consider that grinding.
I’m thinking of starting a new game on a separate profile once I’ve bought the Ferrari 330P4 and going for a lottery of getting at least one of the good cars coming through on the circuit challenge bonuses. I guess you could setup your birthday to be soon as well for another bonus car.
That’s got to be more fun than endless grinding on the same few tracks. Which I’ve actually decided to do for the last 5 million by doing two F1 races at Suzuka every day for a few weeks (480,000 credits) just so I can guarantee that I will actually get to race the 330P4.
Have been using the Daytona for the Nostalgic cup and it is great fun to drive. I have increased the power and dropped weight a little to be competitive with the P4. I had to change the transmission to a customized 5 speed as i couldn't get the win with the standard box.
Sounds pretty good to boot.
There's only one that's fast. Make sure you race that one. I can't remember his name. He'll be way out in front.
I also created a second account to double my chances. Approximately 300 days between them both, I haven't gotten the Ferrari or Jag. I ended up ignoring my desire to be gifted the Ferrari. I bought 2 Aston Martin Vulcans, earned enough to buy the 330 P4, then sold the Vulcans and had a couple mil in the bank.
Just thinking about the pure hours I’ve put into this game and that I still don’t own a single car above the 3 million mark staggers me.
So I’ve put 6 days and ten hours into the game. I’d say a reasonable estimation for how many hours people actually work in an 8 hour day is about 6 once you take out breaks, going to the loo, having conversations etc.
So doing the maths that means I’ve done just over 25 ‘work days’ worth of game play. That’s like going into work for 5 weeks straight and just playing GT sport all day!
Looking at your graph, it takes you about 66 days to earn 20 million at your usual pace of playing the game. So, with no grinding, it takes more than 2 months to actually be able to buy a car you can participate and win in those races.
And you think the economy in this game is not flawed...?
So, doing a 3-left-turn lap 55 times is not grinding. Well, I believe you.
Unfortunately 45 mins are 2-3 times more than I've got for this game daily, sometimes.
Blue moon bay in the xbow was a horrid grind.
Doing 2 laps of Le Mans can never be considered a grind, unless repeated for more than a 24hr stint.
I just wish it would be in vr
I went in to race this for money - and the game says I haven't won the race ... sheesh won a few times. Got in front with three laps to go and cruised. So I went to do it once again for money and fun - and kept spinning ... and re-started the game four times, then quit. Hah hah - very strange. Surely the game says your off line? I thought it saves automatically?
So I thought I'll win some money from the KTM, and got setup from Rex85 ... although I turned of the traction control. The car understeered with his setup, and I came fourth twice, running around 50 seconds a lap ... I couldn't use his gear ratios for some reason though, and it was not quite revving out, maybe that is a reason for being so slow, with some people saying you can lap in low 30 seconds!!
It is entirely true. Repeating the same thing within a game for reasons is the definition of grinding.
That's not to say it can't be fun or reasonable, but it is still the definition of grinding.
The KTM on n300 at blue moon bay (£345,000 credit clean race win) won’t do 30 second laps.
Im using a wheel and I used to do that race with asm and csa on, so I could switch off the sound and listen to podcasts and do high 45-46-47 second laps.
Now I run nostalgia Le Mans with 330p4 (£480,000 credit for 2 clean race wins in 14minutes).. I put the gears to 230mph and brake balance 2 to the rear. It’s squirrely under heavy braking but lively and fun.
I use no hud or race info, no aids except weak abs, and I use cockpit view in the vr headset.
My room/rig setup doesn’t allow me to have the tv close enough for authentic tv cockpit racing, but the vr headset in large cinema mode is a perfect size and with everything else blacked out, it is quite immersive compared to playing on a tv.
It’s laughable compared to proper vr, and the graphics aren’t as good as they are in vr because they aren’t optimised for the headset, but until pd give us gt league in vr, this will have to do.
KTM N300 does lap around 45-47secs, use ASM on, also shift point on that KTM is about @ halp a bar, and don't forget about tires, front RH rear RSS...
Must win a 20,000,000 car on the daily cars*
I have (I bought my son's PS4 who bought a Pro one) and he tossed in his games PC and his Sony VR headset.
I commented to him that some people get motion sickness with them - he then said he did. As a youth he was a top sailor in Australia and represented Australia too and we are a top yachting nation - he has ocean raced too and never got sick! Quite amusing. But I tried it and didn't get sick - and I loved the view, no risk of hitting someone next to you. But the resolution sucked IMO. I also crashed my car - not unusual - in the race I tried - and I was traumatised in the spin. I got out of my rig and was unsteady ... the spin had my brain thinking it was real. That was amazing, but what a shame the resolution is so poor.
I might just buy one of those Ferraris and have some fun earning money. When I enrolled in the PS4 on line thing, I seemed to have paid twice, so I should have an $80 credit somewhere. Pretty obviously, the high prices are to get income.
I have everything off ... and was lucky to crack a 50 second. 4th was an achievement. But I changed the setup, and suddenly I could go around all corners in top gear accept for that single 4th gear one ... I have only cracked a high 45 once, due to drafts ... but 46 is common now with drafts ... without them its likely mid 47s or low 48s ... I also could alter the gearbox, with a higher top gear, and a much higher 5th gear, and a higher 4th gear ... I reckon I'd be faster then. Also the setup is an overall track one and could be made better for the oval I reckon. Not much point though really if its only to earn money.
I don't like the car though ... it doesn't feel real ... it sort of has a software pivot point in the centre of the chassis. Going faster with a hard tyre is just bull dust too ... mine still understeers too and its difficult to keep it neutral in a corner. The fastest way seems to be just to go full throttle rather than balance the understeer ... the fun part though is the high speed corner, when you are drafting ... the PS4 seems a bit slow to process all that, and the car goes a bit crazy there ... maybe a low 45 is there if that was got right.
Avoiding cars though - no benefit in doing that for me. I have had several clean races now but the money is just the same. 250,000 for me. In Australia (Oceana I think the zone may be). The money and the other point thingoes are all just the same. May as well hit them and go for a fast time ...
Btw, how competitive is the Daytona on all three events? Is it easy on all three if you have maxxed out power slash weight?
Yes the Daytona can win all 3. However, Croix was tough for me since I refuse to learn that awful track.
That's good to hear. I feel like the 300hp 250GTO would be a dead loss on all three given that these are largely power tracks.
Just a correction here - I did a number of income earning races - and suddenly I got $375,000 and other bonuses. So I then switched the view to watching the car from behind - and a Bugatti after I passed it, would come up and hit me in the back. I did not know it was happening ... also another car when I got in the lead, seemed hell bent on driving slowly, and then when I passed it, trying to hit me!!
Also I raced the MkIV GT 40 race car (thanks to grinding the KTM and also it taught me a bit how to drive with the behind view) and won with the standard weight and power ... without hitting anyone too - but the payout was pretty poor. I also raced the standard GT 40 Mk IV race car at Monza, and found it difficult to win without going over one of the chicanes.
I feel like 'grinding' depends on whether you enjoy the race or not.
I believe at this point, no one enjoys KTMs on BLue Moon. That's grinding.
I'm doing the N200 vs. N1000 rally races and I enjoy the race in that the AI beats you on the straights and you get them on the corners.
This is not grinding as long as you enjoy the challenge. Once it becomes boring and you do it for the cash then its grinding.
As I say, none of this should be necessary. I do not grind in Forza M or Forza H - granted they do bandaids like weekly cash gifts and big prizes for particiating in silly events... but then so do GT6 to a comparable degree.
One way I make the GT League races enjoyable is to take different cars and use cockpit view with all HUD turned off and treat it as a trackday event. I drive at a steady 80ish percent effort and cruise past the ai cars when it's clear, trying to drive smooth above all else. It's a nice change of pace from the online push.
I enjoy GT Leagues and the old GT6 seasonals in a similar way. You find the best way to get that trophy and that's it.
Its a problem solving process. Granted many of them are silly like the VW Bug vs. Microbus challenge that requires zero brain cells. But a few require thinking like Cavallino and the Group 2 races.
I feel like there will be a 'challenge' in using the Daytona to complete these three races given its down on power. Its going to cost me $15 mil. to find out.