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Sorry if I go off topic but I think that sometimes it is also right to reflect on what surrounds us to open the mind a little and really think about what really matters, I would also like to discuss it with this beautiful forum but I don't think it's the right section, however... I have seen and played the whole world of video games from Arkanoid until today, I come from an iconic Italian region where around me a few kilometers away there were the factories of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Ducati, so for a boy from my area the passion for engines was almost natural, from here putting the two things together I have always played everything that had 2 or 4 wheels, but believe me, the amazement in seeing Grand Prix 2 by Jeoff Crammond or the first Gran Turismo, or the fun with the first iconic games that could be modded, I have not felt it anymore and it is not a question of age because the passion is always the same, it is just that now we complain about everything losing sight of what should ultimately be the purpose of these, let's call them, "simulations", I always hear fierce criticism even if maybe To people who put in the time and effort to create something.
Mods that should be a source of pride and sharing have become a source of profit, and I'm not talking about the ones who truly deserve to be rewarded, which are very few, but about everything that's stolen, done without love, in the pursuit of easy money, "likes," and fame.
I'm an incurable old romantic, or maybe times have just changed and it's normal now, but I can't get over it.

I'd like to know how you see this world these days, even the younger ones who just started out.


Sorry for the off-topic 🙏
 
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Bit of a shoutout to the creators of the VIR mod track - Darren Blythe, Rigel, LilSki and Arthur666.

I was working on a 99% accurate-to-life TV camera set for VIR in August.

And when you get the camera angles 99% right, it's usually indeed almost perfection - for laser-scanned tracks at least, because all the elevations and cambers look exactly like real-life, because, well, the track mesh itself is centimeter/millimeter-accurate, right?

Well, with non-laser-scanned / non-LiDAR tracks, there's usually something or other amiss (hell, even a poor(er) LiDAR track can reveal their inaccuracies when set against a dead accurate camera.)

HOWEVER, this VIR mod track - NON-laser-scanned, as much as I know - showed the same levels of accuracy when set against the IRL cameras, as the laser-scanned Nordschleife, Spa and Road America did in my earlier works!

It's just further proof of how astonishingly good job these guys have done on this track!

(Plug for the trailer - it's Patreon, but the trailer is for all members and followers, and you are able to check the similarity of the track yourself against the real-life race. N.B. some of the cameras are from other years, and can be placed a few meters away.)
 
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Did anyone come up with a cure for cars crashing in pit lane and continually trying get back to their pit, only to crash again, continually doing donuts in the pits or stuck against pit wall?
I had 42 opponents at Road America and the one car during qualifying was crashing in the pits the entire time. Never turned a lap.
Then the race grid line up has him on pole, where he then proceeds to side swipe the pit wall all the way to first turn. Restarted the session a couple of times, with no difference.
It seems like every race or session at least one car will continually "get stuck and return to the pits."
 
Kurt Woods
Did anyone come up with a cure for cars crashing in pit lane and continually trying get back to their pit, only to crash again, continually doing donuts in the pits or stuck against pit wall?
I had 42 opponents at Road America and the one car during qualifying was crashing in the pits the entire time. Never turned a lap.
Then the race grid line up has him on pole, where he then proceeds to side swipe the pit wall all the way to first turn. Restarted the session a couple of times, with no difference.
It seems like every race or session at least one car will continually "get stuck and return to the pits."
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Nice near-miss for the Rexy there! xD
 
Kurt Woods
Did anyone come up with a cure for cars crashing in pit lane and continually trying get back to their pit, only to crash again, continually doing donuts in the pits or stuck against pit wall?
I had 42 opponents at Road America and the one car during qualifying was crashing in the pits the entire time. Never turned a lap.
Then the race grid line up has him on pole, where he then proceeds to side swipe the pit wall all the way to first turn. Restarted the session a couple of times, with no difference.
It seems like every race or session at least one car will continually "get stuck and return to the pits."
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Many people have reported this but there is no sensible solution. Some people say it's the new CSP versions but it's not. It also happens on 0.1.79 and it never happened before. For me it happened on ACU Interlagos and MTS Fuji. Tracks that worked for YEARS without any issues whatsoever.

But when you restart many times enough it doesn't happen again. Twilight Zone stuff for sure.
 
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Apocalypse211
Many people have reported this but there is no sensible solution. Some people say it's the new CSP versions but it's not. It also happens on 0.1.79 and it never happened before. For me it happened on ACU Interlagos and MTS Fuji. Tracks that worked for YEARS without any issues whatsoever.

But when you restart many times enough it doesn't happen again. Twilight Zone stuff for sure.
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But to put him on pole is really wacked!
 
Apocalypse211
Many people have reported this but there is no sensible solution. Some people say it's the new CSP versions but it's not. It also happens on 0.1.79 and it never happened before. For me it happened on ACU Interlagos and MTS Fuji. Tracks that worked for YEARS without any issues whatsoever.

But when you restart many times enough it doesn't happen again. Twilight Zone stuff for sure.
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There's a possibility that there's some setting that was accidentally (or automatically) checked that wasn't before? I know I had some similar issue last year and the solution was a CSP > General Patch Settings thing that I know I hadn't enabled but it became enabled somehow. After disabling it things went back to normal. It was either a 'Physics Experiments' or 'Optimizations' setting.

To be clear it was not this specific issue, but it was something similar with AI doing dumb things.
 
Apocalypse211
Not nice to hear that.

But I think all the sharing communites are like this. Some of my F1 seasons on Youtube have over 3000 downloads,.videos have over 10K views and the best videos have 100+ likes. Some much more amazing track mod videos on Youtube have way less. People don't even bother to give a thumbs up. That's way too much to ask for. Some even give thumbs down after downloading the freebies. I did every single ad banner for the 2004 tracks. Worked my ass off for weeks, collected all skins together to make a full 2004 grid (finally)... then created the period correct HUDs.... Modded the cars and tested them excessively that they definitely work on every track and pit at the correct times. It didn't get much attention at all. It's not just something people are interested in... they only want 2025 stuff (which, imho is not even possible to emulate on AC that well).

But it doesn't bother me the slightest. The main motivation should always be that YOU yourself enjoy doing it and also enjoy playing it. I wanted that season because I wanted to play it. And I have. But then a few like minded people come and love to play that season too. That's the reward. Creating niche stuff like that will never appeal to the masses. 2004 is so far away. Many people in the sim community are barely born in 2004. Just think about the 70's stuff you made... that even more niche stuff.

And I'm not even a proper modder. I can't build tracks and cars from the scratch. I can only do some simple mods, change banners and actually create a playable season. The really cool thing is that there are like minded people who like classic F1 season simulation. I love to chat and share race results and lap times with them so I'm not complaining... at least they get downloaded and a few people play them too. Just imagine how many hundreds of great mods (bult cars and tracks) went completely unnoticed. Way better stuff that I could ever do. We have too much good stuff on AC. People are spoiled.

I doubt anything like AC will ever come again. EVO won't be like this... those companies are way too greedy and there's no way to make money from this kind of platform. It has just created this Patreon "subculture" for "better mods" which doesn't help Kunos at all. Think it this way: The 70's stuff you have created is simulation racing history in many ways. Just like Caesars Palace 1982 and Dallas 1984 tracks... or Dijon 1979.... those would never, ever come to any commercial sim because only a fraction of people are interested (or even know they exist). But to me (as a F1 history nutcase) they're amazing... although the tracks themselves aren't that polished. But we can drive those circuits which is WILD. They will never be noticed even by AC community that much... but they matter to ME and I really, genuinely enjoy driving them... and "reliving" that amazing era of racing.

I'd say don't do any work for other people. Don't even think how many likes or compliments you get. Do the mods only because YOU want them. That's what I do. I want to play the stuff I create... and actually drive them too... so I never get disappointed even if the reception isn't that great. :)
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Answering several in this post.

1- Yes, my Nvidia graphics card (6GB) and my RAM (16GB)Certainly before changing my processor, intending to upgrade (video card + RAM) first.
2- Regarding your comment about mods, I feel almost the same way. I make small adaptations or small conversions to cars, initially for my own fun (to recreate as much as possible), races or various historical championships (from the last century...).

I also like modern cars (both formulas, GT3, prototypes)...but sometimes it's a "flood" of nearly identical models from "various modders".....
I believe there's still room (for those more experienced in creations/modifications) for classic car models still waiting to be created.Regarding tracks (I don't even risk it, as I don't have enough capacity).

Regarding your simulations/championships/HUDs...they're excellent.

I haven't even had time to download or enjoy many of them yet...I'm still recovering from the loss of some of my Assetto content.

Only after almost 5 months (I managed to redo and restart) my "Mille Miglie 1955" simulation.

Finally, regarding the question of commenting (words of encouragement or thanks), speaking for myself, I always try to be as grateful as possible to everyone who contributes in some way here on the forum or in other private groups (what I download regularly).I still have a small debt: I made a short tutorial (conversion, car adaptation in 3dsimed...) with the little I learned (trial and error), but I'm always learning new things.

I believe that's how the community works.
 
Aldo Raine
but about everything that's stolen, done without love, in the pursuit of easy money, "likes," and fame.
I'm an incurable old romantic, or maybe times have just changed and it's normal now, but I can't get over it.

I'd like to know how you see this world these days, even the younger ones who just started out.


Sorry for the off-topic 🙏
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Well we see it with eyes full of disgust, but there's a fine line between being a victim of it and doing something about it. And thankfully there are still a lot of people who are doing something about it.

If we check the F1 side, we have

2015->2018 ACFL doing mods but the 3d model comes from roblox

2019->2020 ACFL vs ACF1 the battle between pay mod vs free mod
In between simdream came in and saw this battle, and thought "what If I do ACF1 job of converting cars using whatever physics i find but put a price tag like ACFL"
So they spammed mods from all eras of F1 like that

2021->2022 Simdream reached for the sun and got burned. Stopped doing conversions. We need a successor. Modding becomes more accessible after people realized that modding wasn't an "elite" thing seeing what simdream made.

What has come out of it?

The same thing. Free vs Pay.

Spmod decided to be the spiritual successor of simdream with his Patreon, taking physics left and sound engine right without asking anyone's permission. While Deploy stayed on the free side for the love of the game and produce a better modern formula mods that can look RSS formula hybrid 2025 in the eyes.

It'll be a perpetual "Pay vs Free" where people come and go but there will always be people that comes for the love of $ and people irritated by it who will start doing mods for the love of the game.



As for Tom leaving and his arguments, i do understand him a lot. Thankfully I avoided that hassle of thinking that way especially in a community like Assetto Corsa. For example, I helped a lot of people with modding going as far as to write a simple modding guide to cover obscure knowledge that was hard for newbies to find. This allowed the rise of many part time discord modders, like bubba who did a 2014 season, forbys who did a 2009 season and other classic cars, deploy also uses some knowledge from that guide. But I don't bother expecting anything in return. I don't really care they do afterwards and if things get the respect it deserve, the thing I'm getting in return are F1 mods, which is my goal ultimately since I'm a lazy person I don't want to do every car I want to drive there's too many. Better offload that to other people to do the work for you, just need to give them a little push.

I also don't get a penny from the mods I'm doing. I tried putting a donation link for my 2008 mod in gtplanet despite 20k download no one gave me a penny. So I had to tell my wife and kids that we would drink water and eat ice cubes for the month. Shame on you gtplanet !

I did the same experiment on overtake.gg with the mak corp mod, to my surprise someone actually gave a donation (overtake.gg >>>>>> gtplanet) the bad news is that I never expected someone to send money so the throw away PayPal account was locked after seeing money for the first time in 5 years and asked for my identity if I want to reclaim those 5$, i don't do money laundering, but trading my privacy for 5$ isn't worth it (well the truth lies in the fact that i don't want to pay taxes, so I don't want to have the IRS spying on me) so those 5$ are staying where they are.

We are now homeless, and eating water to survive because none of you wanted to give me a penny, but my wife always tell me that it's okay, because all the money in the world doesn't make happiness, having its name next to mak corp name does. Well she's right, i might not have a Bugatti to catch girls on the street, but playing it off like a random arch Linux user and telling every girl i meet "btw did you know I made an F1 mod with mak corp name in it" makes them all go sign a mariage certificate on the double. That's how I got my wife.
 
rfactor 2 conversation Sepang
Converted from rfactor 2.
Rainfx, Grassfix and lights, csp 1.79 or higher needed.
GP layout only.
Screenshot_toyota_gr_supra_racing_malaysia_22-7-125-12-59-35.webp

Screenshot_toyota_gr_supra_racing_malaysia_22-7-125-12-59-57.webp

Screenshot_toyota_gr_supra_racing_malaysia_22-7-125-13-1-20.webp

Download:https://mega.nz/folder/z8Il0KCK#sWqQ4VdeEDJGOVOJmhyJ8w
File:sepang_rf2_20250821.rar
Bug fix for Azure Circuit (Monaco) 2019
Fix some collision mesh bugs, change some texture, new ai line in hairpin.
Screenshot_toyota_gr_supra_racing_azure_2019_v2_22-7-125-13-2-7.webp

Download:https://mega.nz/folder/z8Il0KCK#sWqQ4VdeEDJGOVOJmhyJ8w
File:azure_2019_v2_20250821.rar
 
Junshen Wu
rfactor 2 conversation Sepang
Converted from rfactor 2.
Rainfx, Grassfix and lights, csp 1.79 or higher needed.
GP layout only.
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Download:https://mega.nz/folder/z8Il0KCK#sWqQ4VdeEDJGOVOJmhyJ8w
File:sepang_rf2_20250821.rar
Bug fix for Azure Circuit (Monaco) 2019
Fix some collision mesh bugs, change some texture, new ai line in hairpin.
View attachment 1473925
Download:https://mega.nz/folder/z8Il0KCK#sWqQ4VdeEDJGOVOJmhyJ8w
File:azure_2019_v2_20250821.rar
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How did you extract and make the trees work ? I've tried to bring trees to Korea from the RF2 mod (which is based on the same F1 201x source) but as soon as I change the shader they just disappear lol
 
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How did you extract and make the trees work ? I've tried to bring trees to Korea from the RF2 mod (which is based on the same F1 201x source) but as soon as I change the shader they just disappear lol
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I didn't use rfactor 2's tree models and textures, the reflection and shader is not fit for AC. I move trees model from other AC track, part of textures are from Project CARS 2.
 
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Cote Dazur
Just curious, since I reached 7000 hours in AC yesterday, how many hours do the other AC maniacs in this thread have clocked so far?
I have more time spent SIM racing in AC that in all my other titles put together.(ACC second with 1654 hours).
I anticipate the balance of 2025 and 2026 to be more or less solely dedicated to AC as in my VR setup it is better in most aspect important to me or at least as good as anything else out there.
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My favourite topic 😄

AC 4300
R3E 827
AMS2 455
ETS 376
RF2 268
AMS 266
ACC. 161
ATS. 133
DR2. 111
DR1. 105
EA WRC. 97
LMU. 92
FM. 90
PC2. 80
R07. 74
WRC10. 70
F1 19. 59
JDM. 51
MUD R. 41
AoR. 40
SnowR. 33
CARstrX. 30

Some older games like RBR, GTR 1,2 GT legends and so on unfortunately no steam counter
 
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kakauiyt
Well we see it with eyes full of disgust, but there's a fine line between being a victim of it and doing something about it. And thankfully there are still a lot of people who are doing something about it.

If we check the F1 side, we have

2015->2018 ACFL doing mods but the 3d model comes from roblox

2019->2020 ACFL vs ACF1 the battle between pay mod vs free mod
In between simdream came in and saw this battle, and thought "what If I do ACF1 job of converting cars using whatever physics i find but put a price tag like ACFL"
So they spammed mods from all eras of F1 like that

2021->2022 Simdream reached for the sun and got burned. Stopped doing conversions. We need a successor. Modding becomes more accessible after people realized that modding wasn't an "elite" thing seeing what simdream made.

What has come out of it?

The same thing. Free vs Pay.

Spmod decided to be the spiritual successor of simdream with his Patreon, taking physics left and sound engine right without asking anyone's permission. While Deploy stayed on the free side for the love of the game and produce a better modern formula mods that can look RSS formula hybrid 2025 in the eyes.

It'll be a perpetual "Pay vs Free" where people come and go but there will always be people that comes for the love of $ and people irritated by it who will start doing mods for the love of the game.



As for Tom leaving and his arguments, i do understand him a lot. Thankfully I avoided that hassle of thinking that way especially in a community like Assetto Corsa. For example, I helped a lot of people with modding going as far as to write a simple modding guide to cover obscure knowledge that was hard for newbies to find. This allowed the rise of many part time discord modders, like bubba who did a 2014 season, forbys who did a 2009 season and other classic cars, deploy also uses some knowledge from that guide. But I don't bother expecting anything in return. I don't really care they do afterwards and if things get the respect it deserve, the thing I'm getting in return are F1 mods, which is my goal ultimately since I'm a lazy person I don't want to do every car I want to drive there's too many. Better offload that to other people to do the work for you, just need to give them a little push.

I also don't get a penny from the mods I'm doing. I tried putting a donation link for my 2008 mod in gtplanet despite 20k download no one gave me a penny. So I had to tell my wife and kids that we would drink water and eat ice cubes for the month. Shame on you gtplanet !

I did the same experiment on overtake.gg with the mak corp mod, to my surprise someone actually gave a donation (overtake.gg >>>>>> gtplanet) the bad news is that I never expected someone to send money so the throw away PayPal account was locked after seeing money for the first time in 5 years and asked for my identity if I want to reclaim those 5$, i don't do money laundering, but trading my privacy for 5$ isn't worth it (well the truth lies in the fact that i don't want to pay taxes, so I don't want to have the IRS spying on me) so those 5$ are staying where they are.

We are now homeless, and eating water to survive because none of you wanted to give me a penny, but my wife always tell me that it's okay, because all the money in the world doesn't make happiness, having its name next to mak corp name does. Well she's right, i might not have a Bugatti to catch girls on the street, but playing it off like a random arch Linux user and telling every girl i meet "btw did you know I made an F1 mod with mak corp name in it" makes them all go sign a mariage certificate on the double. That's how I got my wife.
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I think the biggest issue with Tom was that he let the annoying people get to him. In the Discord server, you'd often have some random no-name pop in, ask for a car, and nothing else. It gets annoying, which is understandable. But honestly, I think it would've been better if he just asked some of the regulars to be moderators and kick people who only come to ask for stuff.

Asking for donations for a mod you upload for free and then never getting any is just how it goes. It happens in every modding community on the internet. There’s no modding community where donations are always rolling in. Hell, I used to work on Skyrim mods, had a PayPal donation link up from 2011 to 2015, and never saw a single donation despite having hundreds of thousands of downloads on my simple mods at the time. But I never expected it anyway. It was just there in case someone felt generous… or was a Saudi prince, or a drunk dude. I did it for the love of the game.

Tom, though, seemed to do it as a way to make money at the same time even if he never said it outright. If he really wanted money for his stuff, he could’ve uploaded it to ModsFire, ShareMods, etc., instead of a Google Drive folder. He’d easily make $10 per mod just from download rewards alone, lol. Oh well, it is what it is. Maybe he’ll come back, or maybe he’ll help someone like MAXSTDDesign get their stuff up and running, considering what they were working on before Tom’s little outburst.
 
Anyone got a good/easy way to re-create a helmet? I'm looking into recreating a helmet for a kart driver that raced with my nephews that unfortunately passed away - but, well... I'm not good at things from scratch like that anymore..
 
Junshen Wu
I didn't use rfactor 2's tree models and textures, the reflection and shader is not fit for AC. I move trees model from other AC track, part of textures are from Project CARS 2.
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So there's no way to port those trees to AC then... Perfectly fine in EGO and isiMotor but impossible to implement in AC, well that just sucks.
 
CrisT86
If you don't like the lights, you just have to comment out on the ext_config instead replacing the model. Btw real helicopter at night have lights (like any objects that flying) in order to be visible in the sky
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Yes i know (material adjustment 100 and 101), we always have the choice of the solution, the helicopters keep their position lights on at night and are visible, it's just the spot light that is removed ;)
 
FrustratedUse
I think the biggest issue with Tom was that he let the annoying people get to him. In the Discord server, you'd often have some random no-name pop in, ask for a car, and nothing else. It gets annoying, which is understandable. But honestly, I think it would've been better if he just asked some of the regulars to be moderators and kick people who only come to ask for stuff.

Asking for donations for a mod you upload for free and then never getting any is just how it goes. It happens in every modding community on the internet. There’s no modding community where donations are always rolling in. Hell, I used to work on Skyrim mods, had a PayPal donation link up from 2011 to 2015, and never saw a single donation despite having hundreds of thousands of downloads on my simple mods at the time. But I never expected it anyway. It was just there in case someone felt generous… or was a Saudi prince, or a drunk dude. I did it for the love of the game.

Tom, though, seemed to do it as a way to make money at the same time even if he never said it outright. If he really wanted money for his stuff, he could’ve uploaded it to ModsFire, ShareMods, etc., instead of a Google Drive folder. He’d easily make $10 per mod just from download rewards alone, lol. Oh well, it is what it is. Maybe he’ll come back, or maybe he’ll help someone like MAXSTDDesign get their stuff up and running, considering what they were working on before Tom’s little outburst.
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Sorry I missed something because I was on vacation, but what happened with TomSims I can't even see the server on discord anymore?
 
Moor1804
... what happened with TomSims I can't even see the server on discord anymore?
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It seems that the Dark Side of the AC Community, that minority (I'd like to believe) sector that constantly ask for this or that mod and later doesn't even thank modders for their hard work, has finish his patience. A pity, but it is what it is...

More info in previous messages.
 
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Perico Lospa
It seems that the Dark Side of the AC Community, that minority (I'd like to believe) sector that constantly ask for this or that mod and later doesn't even thank modders for their hard work, has finish his patience. A pity, but it is what it is...

More info in previous messages.
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There is an ever darker side that you have to face as a modder, the heavy critics. Constructive criticism is fine, pointing out issues which can be fixed is fine, but the plain ugly ones are hard to deal with when you've slaved long hours into something. And they love to say they are giving constructive criticism when they are actually been downright ugly and rude about it and of no use to you. And 99.999% of them couldn't even begin to do it themselves.

I'm willing to bet those guys wore Tom down way more over time, the demanding people in the end was just the final straw...
 
BruceD
There is an ever darker side that you have to face as a modder, the heavy critics...
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Yep, you're right... And I know that each person is different and reacts differently to life, and that exposing yourself to the public is complicated, but since I understood that the only criticism I should worry about (because they will surely be right) was that of people I care about and not that of any idiot who crosses my path, I live much happier... 😌
 
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