Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[Blade_Rudder]

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Update - in the last two hours of the race, everyone started making pit stops and only getting a tiny amount of fuel...

Which meant that they would do 2 or 3 laps and then box again, for another few laps.

Happy to take the win, but I know I wouldn't have won had the AI not started to glitch.

The glitch occurred because you were using the shutdown and resume method. It’s a known feature. Having tried the NSX in an earlier race I decided not to risk it in the 6hour. I went for the middle Nissan instead. I needed to shutdown and resume too because the Supra was way too quick, but managed to bring it home in 1st. Interestingly lap times were well matched to the McLaren with me quicker in first half of lap and the McLaren’s flying by on the straights. Looking forward to trying the 2 chilli McLaren at Spa 8 hour and hopefully won’t need a strategic shut down 👍

 

[ScottPuss20]

I did the Corvette raceon Grand Valley in the C5 and it was yet another walk in the park, however the Tuning Battle on Maggiore in the Supra GT Road Car was a struggle. I started first but when the lights went out, I got swamped and with soo many cars around me, I couldn't hear my car properly. It was a difficult first lap but I kept out of trouble and eventually got to the back of Coque Lopez. After a few failed moves, I got around him heading into the big banked corner but I got overtaken under brakes, so I cut down underneath for a better line. However I misjudged the exit, getting a wheel into the gravel and shooting off into the inside barrier. I dropped down to 9th and recovered to 4th, hot on the tail of Takuma Miyazono. The tune put onto the Supra isn't great and the tyre wear didn't help, resulting in a tough race. Happily the next race I did on Daytona for the Spirit Of Sarthe in the Ford GT40 was easier, as I won from pole position... but I almost threw it away after some significant errors - one of which causing me and another car to go off at the second horseshoe. Talk about an eventful night.

 

[Met Entso]

I started the 8 hours endurance race in Spa, stopped the game just after pitting, in P3, 50 seconds ahead of P4, with full tank and new tyres. When I restarted the race, I was in P4 and with an empty tank, so I had to pit again and lost 50 more seconds. Has this happened to any of you? Seems it's better to stop before pitting...

 

[Voodoovaj]

I started the 8 hours endurance race in Spa, stopped the game just after pitting, in P3, 50 seconds ahead of P4, with full tank and new tyres. When I restarted the race, I was in P4 and with an empty tank, so I had to pit again and lost 50 more seconds. Has this happened to any of you? Seems it's better to stop before pitting...

Make sure you have a few laps in after a pit stop. It is saving the last full lap.

 

[Met Entso]

Make sure you have a few laps in after a pit stop. It is saving the last full lap.

I did one more lap and stopped in the straight after Eau Rouge, guess that wasn't enough.

It did save the new tyres though... ah well... it's PD.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I did one more lap and stopped in the straight after Eau Rouge, guess that wasn't enough.

It did save the new tyres though... ah well... it's PD.

In lap and the out lap do not count as a full lap. You have to do the out lap and at least one more.

 

[Blade_Rudder]

I did one more lap and stopped in the straight after Eau Rouge, guess that wasn't enough.

It did save the new tyres though... ah well... it's PD.

After resuming the game you always get new tyres, but fuel will be as it was after the last lap the game (auto) saved. My understanding is it could be at least 2 full laps after pitting for fuel. Pit, do 2 full laps, then quit…

 

[jonoholland29]

I’ve not had time to test this myself but I expect it is the last full lap, from S/F to S/F of the player (no in or out laps) - though it could be (and probably should be) the last full lap of the leader.

 

[Met Entso]

In lap and the out lap do not count as a full lap. You have to do the out lap and at least one more.

After resuming the game you always get new tyres, but fuel will be as it was after the last lap the game (auto) saved. My understanding is it could be at least 2 full laps after pitting for fuel. Pit, do 2 full laps, then quit…

I’ve not had time to test this myself but I expect it is the last full lap, from S/F to S/F of the player (no in or out laps) - though it could be (and probably should be) the last full lap of the leader.

Thanks for the tips, that must be it. So probably the safest option would be to stop before pitting. And if it gives you fresh tyres you gain a few seconds too?

 

[the Interceptor]

Is there any verdict on whether rubber banding happens in the Power Pack races?

I ran the Civic @ Tokyo South race a few times yesterday, looking at lap times and AI performance in respect to my laptimes/performance. The AI didn't change their behavior at all no matter what I did. They ran consistent times in practice, qualifying and race.

 

[Vitesh Patel]

Is there any verdict on whether rubber banding happens in the Power Pack races?

I ran the Civic @ Tokyo South race a few times yesterday, looking at lap times and AI performance in respect to my laptimes/performance. The AI didn't change their behavior at all no matter what I did. They ran consistent times in practice, qualifying and race.

I think the rubber banding only happens in the longer races.

Like if you were to pit manoeuvre someone, they'll go at lightspeed to get back to where they were. Other times they'll just be cruising until you catch up to them

 

[Greycap]

There probably isn't rubberbanding in its commonly known form, but a very strong script to the order of the AI cars. The 500 bhp tuning race at Maggiore is a prime example of it, the Supra is destined to be the leading AI car, and oh boy will there be things happening if it isn't. It'll drop to fourth or fifth at the start as the AWD rockets humiliate it off the line but when the first downhill straight opens it gets a boost that makes F&F nitrous pale in comparison, flies past everyone with what looks like twice the normal power, and then settles back into its usual pace when the intended order has been established.

 

[the Interceptor]

There probably isn't rubberbanding in its commonly known form, but a very strong script to the order of the AI cars. The 500 bhp tuning race at Maggiore is a prime example of it, the Supra is destined to be the leading AI car, and oh boy will there be things happening if it isn't. It'll drop to fourth or fifth at the start as the AWD rockets humiliate it off the line but when the first downhill straight opens it gets a boost that makes F&F nitrous pale in comparison, flies past everyone with what looks like twice the normal power, and then settles back into its usual pace when the intended order has been established.

Thanks for the hint, I will look into that race specifically once I get to it.

 

[Ohayo]

Is anyone on controller having issues with purple Civic 93'? It has turn radius of a bus and I'm loosing so much time in the hairpins. I've tried 87' Civic and it seems just fine.

 

[the Interceptor]

There probably isn't rubberbanding in its commonly known form, but a very strong script to the order of the AI cars. The 500 bhp tuning race at Maggiore is a prime example of it, the Supra is destined to be the leading AI car, and oh boy will there be things happening if it isn't. It'll drop to fourth or fifth at the start as the AWD rockets humiliate it off the line but when the first downhill straight opens it gets a boost that makes F&F nitrous pale in comparison, flies past everyone with what looks like twice the normal power, and then settles back into its usual pace when the intended order has been established.

I ran this race twice, once the non-chili version and once the 2-chili version. I can see how you arrive at your conclusion, but if you look at the replay and check sector times and laptimes, you will see that there is no boosting going on there. In the 2-chili version you get to drive the Supra, and you quickly notice that it out-accelerates most competitors on the straights. However, it has quite poor traction and is not particularly fast in corners. Yet it manages to match the laptimes of cars with better grip, e.g. the Lambo Huracan, solely through better acceleration once it gets going.

Think about it: if you race against an opponent that is weak in corners but fast on straights in respect to you, where can you overtake him? Overtaking in a corner is near impossible, you don't have that much more grip than him. He will accelerate away from you on the straights, so you can't get him there. And you won't be close enough to outbreak him into the next corner either. Such cars are notoriously hard to overtake.

If you watch a replay with all race data enabled, you will see that the Supra's pace is consistent across the whole race and on par with its practice and qualifying times.

EDIT: Thinking more about this, I realized that cars like the Supra will "naturally" filter to the front of the grid on a track with long enough straights. Simply put, the Supra is faster than the competition where overtaking is easy (straights) and slower where overtaking is difficult (corners), so it has an advantage overall. Seeing this process from behind, it will look like the Supra is getting a boost on the straights.

 

[Superhero Wally]

I don't know, if it's been mentioned, I'm assuming most people know as well, but you can just pause the game and put the console in rest mode, opposed to forcing the game to shut down, or powering off the console. It won't put the game in the save state, but you can continue the race as intended. Power back on, unpause, and not have to be bunched back up again when you continue. I'm working on the Nurburgring 24hr, 7-8 hours in, with about a 2:30 lead. I'm running the 296, on FM 6, and RM tires. I'm able to get 16 laps out this combo, short shifting, and running 8:20's, and doing about 2hr 15min stints. I did come to realize Sophy does not like to be lapped. She will not give that lap up without a fight. Probably something that should be adjusted.

Also, I have no idea, if the power goes out and turns the cosole fully off, if progress will still be saved. Hopefully it is, but more hopefully, I don't have to find out.

 

[Famine]

Also, I have no idea, if the power goes out and turns the cosole fully off, if progress will still be saved. Hopefully it is, but more hopefully, I don't have to find out.

Yes, it will, but only to the last fully completed lap before the current lap - and it's a bit buggy with AI fuel loads.

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[Superhero Wally]

Yes, it will, but only to the last fully completed lap before the current lap - and it's a bit buggy with AI fuel loads.

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I just wasn't sure because the console isn't turned off "properly", and you can lose saves and what not, supposedly, and the console state has to be restored

 

[art3mis]

I have found the "save" is really an "oh crap something bad happened to the console" functionality.

I've completed Le Mans and am less than an hour from completing Nurburgring. Zero "saves", pausing only

 

[Lischynski]

I have found the "save" is really an "oh crap something bad happened to the console" functionality.

I've completed Le Mans and am less than an hour from completing Nurburgring. Zero "saves", pausing only

How's your experience been with the Nurb 24h compared to Le Mans? Has the AI pit behavior been worse, better, or about the same?

 

[art3mis]

How's your experience been with the Nurb 24h compared to Le Mans? Has the AI pit behavior been worse, better, or about the same?

Funny you ask, I just finished it! The AI typically would run 8 laps per stint average on mediums and hards, 7 laps on soft.

No funny business but I also didn't do any saves via shutdowns. I paused and unpaused.

I did have to laugh as the drivers in the top 5 dove into the pits with 15 minutes or less to go. 2nd pitted with literally 50 seconds left 🤣🤣

I started dead last, no qualifying time. J. Serrano qualified 1st with a 7:58:xxx.

I thought I was doomed but figured let's see how it goes. The race was over on lap 3 when I took the lead and when I pitted on lap 8 I had enough of a lead that I left the pits in 1st. The other 170 laps were a mere formality. I love the track though so I didn't care.

No rain just some overcast hours to start the race. Good God I love how GT 7 handles sunset, night, and dawn. It's just beautiful ❤️

 

[Superhero Wally]

Funny you ask, I just finished it! The AI typically would run 8 laps per stint average on mediums and hards, 7 laps on soft.

No funny business but I also didn't do any saves via shutdowns. I paused and unpaused.

I did have to laugh as the drivers in the top 5 dove into the pits with 15 minutes or less to go. 2nd pitted with literally 50 seconds left 🤣🤣

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I started dead last, no qualifying time. J. Serrano qualified 1st with a 7:58:xxx.

I thought I was doomed but figured let's see how it goes. The race was over on lap 3 when I took the lead and when I pitted on lap 8 I had enough of a lead that I left the pits in 1st. The other 170 laps were a mere formality. I love the track though so I didn't care.

No rain just some overcast hours to start the race. Good God I love how GT 7 handles sunset, night, and dawn. It's just beautiful ❤️

Did you happen to have any drivers "retire"? It appears Lopez and Inostroza went MIA on me. You can see in the pics, there is no time gap for them, and only 18 cars on the map. Their laps keep counting up though. I noticed this around lap 57-58. At the same time I had what appeared to be a car heading toward me on Döttinger Höhe, I could see it around the Bilstein Bridge, but dissappeared when we were still probably 1/4 mile apart. That happened at night, so I could clearly see headlights coming towards me. I did not manage to get a capture of it.

 

[Lomic]

The other 170 laps were a mere formality. I love the track though so I didn't care.

170 laps of TTing Nurburgring 24h, that looks like an herculean task to me, well done !

 

[benjoi84]

Is anyone on controller having issues with purple Civic 93'? It has turn radius of a bus and I'm loosing so much time in the hairpins. I've tried 87' Civic and it seems just fine.

Yep, I had the same issue both at Suzuka and the second Tokyo race. The AI would recover all of their gap to me if I ever managed to get ahead on those corners alone. I noticed it has a horrific turning circle, and also suffers from bad understeer at the lowest speed.

It's not an error, it's just a handicap on that car which you need to learn to deal with. Annoying nonetheless!

 

[pabloprp69]

Funny you ask, I just finished it! The AI typically would run 8 laps per stint average on mediums and hards, 7 laps on soft.

No funny business but I also didn't do any saves via shutdowns. I paused and unpaused.

I did have to laugh as the drivers in the top 5 dove into the pits with 15 minutes or less to go. 2nd pitted with literally 50 seconds left 🤣🤣

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I started dead last, no qualifying time. J. Serrano qualified 1st with a 7:58:xxx.

I thought I was doomed but figured let's see how it goes. The race was over on lap 3 when I took the lead and when I pitted on lap 8 I had enough of a lead that I left the pits in 1st. The other 170 laps were a mere formality. I love the track though so I didn't care.

No rain just some overcast hours to start the race. Good God I love how GT 7 handles sunset, night, and dawn. It's just beautiful ❤️

How come the AI had qualifying times under 8 minutes, yet their fastest lap was 8:24?????

.......

 

[art3mis]

Did you happen to have any drivers "retire"? It appears Lopez and Inostroza went MIA on me. You can see in the pics, there is no time gap for them, and only 18 cars on the map. Their laps keep counting up though. I noticed this around lap 57-58. At the same time I had what appeared to be a car heading toward me on Döttinger Höhe, I could see it around the Bilstein Bridge, but dissappeared when we were still probably 1/4 mile apart. That happened at night, so I could clearly see headlights coming towards me. I did not manage to get a capture of it.

Not that I noticed. I'd have been very spooked to see headlights coming towards me though, that must have been a "wake up" moment

How come the AI had qualifying times under 8 minutes, yet their fastest lap was 8:24?????

.......

That's a great question and one that i wish I had an answer to. I'll re-start the race this afternoon and take a screenshot of the qualifying order. Maybe my brain scrambled the numbers in my memory after watching my own numbers for so long lol!

None of the AI at Le Mans had a fast lap as fast as their Q time but none of them were 30 seconds slower than their Q time. I have to wonder if the sub 8 I remember wasn't somewhat of a glitched time. Since Q is only 45 minutes maybe I'll just spectate Serrano the whole time and see what he does lol

 

[Superhero Wally]

Not that I noticed. I'd have been very spooked to see headlights coming towards me though, that must have been a "wake up" moment

Yeah. I thought it was one of the lights in the distance at first, but nope definetly headlights coming my way, and I'm like this should be interesting, then they just vanished.

 

[Ohayo]

Just started playing PP, I have ~15 races done. Today I've tried 300HP Tunning Battle on Grand Valley with 🌶️🌶️ car (Fugu Z). No practice, no quali - won with 3s gap. I'm average (like B, silver TT), playing on the controller. I did it in other cars as well and Sophy pacing was very similar. If most of the races can be won without quali, well, that's a bummer.

Also driver heads, Sarah and car presentation must be optional. I don't play online, I don't care about GTWS format. And Sarah blipping 3 times in a row (best lap, last lap, best lap again) is very frustrating.

 

[art3mis]

Not that I noticed. I'd have been very spooked to see headlights coming towards me though, that must have been a "wake up" moment


That's a great question and one that i wish I had an answer to. I'll re-start the race this afternoon and take a screenshot of the qualifying order. Maybe my brain scrambled the numbers in my memory after watching my own numbers for so long lol!

None of the AI at Le Mans had a fast lap as fast as their Q time but none of them were 30 seconds slower than their Q time. I have to wonder if the sub 8 I remember wasn't somewhat of a glitched time. Since Q is only 45 minutes maybe I'll just spectate Serrano the whole time and see what he does lol

So I started again. Skipped practice and qualifying like last time.

This time two cars under 8

I'll run a few laps to see how fast I get to the front again. I would expect similar finishing results including their fast laps being similar. No idea why those two are under 8


Edit: leading by end of lap 4. Would have been 3 again but I spun trying to pass 5th into the complex before the carousel.

Nobody lapped even close to their Q time. Fastest I saw was a 8:24. I turned an 8:12 the lap I passed 1st.

 

[snowgt]

So I started again. Skipped practice and qualifying like last time.

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I'll run a few laps to see how fast I get to the front again. I would expect similar finishing results including their fast laps being similar. No idea why those two are under 8


Edit: leading by end of lap 4. Would have been 3 again but I spun trying to pass 5th into the complex before the carousel.

Nobody lapped even close to their Q time. Fastest I saw was a 8:24. I turned an 8:12 the lap I passed 1st.

It doesn't explain the whole gap, but I assume that they won't race on soft tyres, so that's 5-10s depending on if they use hard or mediums. Also, I see that they are all doing those fast laps not on their first flying lap. Seems like they have a half empty fuel tank as well. In the race they will have only worn tyres when the fuel tank is near empty, so they never have an ideal combination of both.

Anyway, an unexplained gap remains.