Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[Johnny Caisse]

This should be FUN!!

 

[Thorson1987]

Had a look. You can use any car in your garage provided it meets certain specifications.

Like the Bump Draft race you need to be under 720PP. Doesnt even need to be a race car.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

I'm SUPER happy with the changes. If you feel like not struggling you can pick a powerful car to just get done with the races or you can also give yourself a crazy hard challenge!

I won the first FF Tuner Challenge by 12 seconds. And yes, some races allow nitrous.

 

[peachy_est]

Had a look. You can use any car in your garage provided it meets certain specifications.

Like the Bump Draft race you need to be under 720PP. Doesnt even need to be a race car.

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Is it possible to get the maximum rewards/stars using a car from your garage?

 

[Interstellar9]

Well, imo that's a step in the wrong direction. Look at 90% of the world circuit events. They are dull because events aren't well balanced because you can use a lot of different cars and the AI is garbage. That makes tweaking the difficulty very difficult or nearly impossible. Power Pack didn't have this problem because you got only three cars, so the devs could balance it...and it did work! Power Pack events are by far more entertaining than the world circuit events. Now with the free choice of garage cars this undermines it. It also makes me slightly pessimistic about the career in GT8. I know that GT was always about free choice of cars in the career races but it also was a "catch the rabbit"-esc procedure. Start last, finish first.

At least they didn't erase the 3 cars selection for every race...

 

[Lomic]

Well, imo that's a step in the wrong direction. Look at 90% of the world circuit events. They are dull because events aren't well balanced because you can use a lot of different cars. That makes tweaking the difficulty very difficult or nearly impossible. Power Pack didn't have this problem because you got only three cars, so the devs could balance it...and it did work! Power Pack events are by far more entertaining than the world circuit events. Now with the free choice of garage cars this undermines it. It also makes me slightly pessimistic about the career in GT8. I know that GT was always about free choice of cars in the career races but it also was a "catch the rabbit"-esc procedure. Start last, finish first.

At least they didn't erase the 3 cars selection for every race...

the important word here is "choice"

 

[Interstellar9]

the important word here is "choice"

Not convincing me. People tend to do it the easy way. Imagine Souls games would have difficulty levels. Fascination of these games would drop immediately and the balancing would be mediocre. No, having the choice isn't always the best. That's why rules exist.

But have fun. It's just not working for me.

 

[GTboyz]

It said the race difficulty is adjusted, how good/bad is it?

 

[Lomic]

Not convincing me. People tend to do it the easy way. Imagine Souls games would have difficulty levels. Fascination of these games would drop immediately and the balancing would be mediocre. No, having the choice isn't always the best. That's why rules exist.

But have fun. It's just not working for me.

You will always have people who chose the hardest mode anyway. I prefer to be free to chose what level I want to tackle.

 

[05XR8]

Especially since we can build our cars and use them wherever they fit in World Circuit events. Now it's possible to do the same in the Power Pack. I appreciate the default cars PD built for players to use in the Power Pack, but being able to use my car that has the right look for me in my replays, is very sweet.

 

[samsaoule]

Not convincing me. People tend to do it the easy way. Imagine Souls games would have difficulty levels. Fascination of these games would drop immediately and the balancing would be mediocre. No, having the choice isn't always the best. That's why rules exist.

But have fun. It's just not working for me.

I completely agree...
I’ll stick to using only the three cars in the pack... that’s the whole point of this challenge...

as for being able to use nitro!!... if that’s true, it’s ridiculous...

 

[Kedmasterz]

They adjusted the difficulty because I finally managed the two chilli civics on Suzuka

The chilli’s event are still tied to the specific cars

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Some people will complain and cry no matter what.

 

[hyperspeed980]

Interestingly enough, a few of the slower preset cars got some buffs in this update to make using them a less humiliating experience.

The NSX in the GT500 races is back up to stock power, the R8 LMS in the Gr.3 races has received a 100+ HP buff, and the M4 for the Nürb tourist race has an even bigger boost than that!

 

[manou]

I'm really curious since I just tried twice the 2 chilis suzuka 6h, which simply couldnt be done.

 

[DS13_supergt]

They adjusted the difficulty because I finally managed the two chilli civics on Suzuka

The chilli’s event are still tied to the specific cars

so did they become easier?

 

[bliprunner]

Is it possible to get the maximum rewards/stars using a car from your garage?

I won a race from last place on the grid and got just one star. And I was under the suggested PP.

 

[samsaoule]

I've just noticed they've upped the difficulty of the “Ladybird” level at Willows by two stars...

I might just manage it, because last night I came second three times...

 

[Blade_Rudder]

I won a race from last place on the grid and got just one star. And I was under the suggested PP.

Can we assume you previously finished second in this race and there was only 1 star left to collect?

 

[Lomic]

Can we assume you previously finished second in this race and there was only 1 star left to collect?

Looks like it. @bliprunner ? can you expand ?

 

[Famine]

Is it possible to get the maximum rewards/stars using a car from your garage?

Yep. Just leathered the first Hakosuka race with a 660PP Maserati MC20 for all 20 stars.

Standard reward and no "chilli" marks, as you'd expect.

 

[bliprunner]

Looks like it. @bliprunner ? can you expand ?

Ah yes, I guess that is the reason. I don't think any stars should be awarded really, I'd like to see them add more challenge, not less.

 

[TUSMBOX]

I had an active endurance race started before the update. Can anyone confirm if their endurance progress for reset after the update?

 

[Greycap]

The ability to use garage cars is a huge improvement mainly for the road car races and endurances. Tailoring the car to your liking has always been a big part of what makes GT the experience it is, but until now everyone was forced to use cars that were terrible to put it mildly. Suspensions so low that there's no room for movement, so stiff that the previous point becomes moot as there isn't any to begin with, and LSDs so locked that it's either understeer city or powerslide galore. Now I can at least look forward to the endurances without dreading the thought of hours of driving a car that has all the compliance of a block of wood with a welded differential.

Further improvements could include stricter regulations, such as year and nationality to prevent things like @Famine 's MC20 mentioned above, and lower PP limits for the chilis but it's probably a work in progress for the future.

 

[benjoi84]

A little detail I just realised, after my cursory glance at the PP changes... Most of the events are locked into a specific tyre compound. That finally means we have single player races where all drivers will have the same tyre type, and we won't have to equip Racing Hards just to make them equal.

 

[Gingerale]

Well, imo that's a step in the wrong direction. Look at 90% of the world circuit events. They are dull because events aren't well balanced because you can use a lot of different cars and the AI is garbage. That makes tweaking the difficulty very difficult or nearly impossible. Power Pack didn't have this problem because you got only three cars, so the devs could balance it...and it did work! Power Pack events are by far more entertaining than the world circuit events. Now with the free choice of garage cars this undermines it. It also makes me slightly pessimistic about the career in GT8. I know that GT was always about free choice of cars in the career races but it also was a "catch the rabbit"-esc procedure. Start last, finish first.

At least they didn't erase the 3 cars selection for every race...

You don't have to pick your own car ey, it's an option.

 

[Pie O My]

The ability to use garage cars is a huge improvement mainly for the road car races and endurances. Tailoring the car to your liking has always been a big part of what makes GT the experience it is, but until now everyone was forced to use cars that were terrible to put it mildly. Suspensions so low that there's no room for movement, so stiff that the previous point becomes moot as there isn't any to begin with, and LSDs so locked that it's either understeer city or powerslide galore. Now I can at least look forward to the endurances without dreading the thought of hours of driving a car that has all the compliance of a block of wood with a welded differential.

Further improvements could include stricter regulations, such as year and nationality to prevent things like @Famine 's MC20 mentioned above, and lower PP limits for the chilis but it's probably a work in progress for the future.

I'm glad I waited to start it.

The first few races with the "tailored" cars were so disappointing with how artificial they felt.

 

[Theufcveteran]

Not convincing me. People tend to do it the easy way. Imagine Souls games would have difficulty levels. Fascination of these games would drop immediately and the balancing would be mediocre. No, having the choice isn't always the best. That's why rules exist.

But have fun. It's just not working for me.

I hear you, but GT at its core is choosing your own car and going your own way in the career. As you can still choose preset cars, you get the best of both worlds.

This actually makes the Power Pack closer to a proper little GT career. It was already closer to it than the base game, but this moves it nearer still, in my opinion.

 

[ArronWestley]

Well, imo that's a step in the wrong direction. Look at 90% of the world circuit events. They are dull because events aren't well balanced because you can use a lot of different cars and the AI is garbage. That makes tweaking the difficulty very difficult or nearly impossible. Power Pack didn't have this problem because you got only three cars, so the devs could balance it...and it did work! Power Pack events are by far more entertaining than the world circuit events. Now with the free choice of garage cars this undermines it. It also makes me slightly pessimistic about the career in GT8. I know that GT was always about free choice of cars in the career races but it also was a "catch the rabbit"-esc procedure. Start last, finish first.

At least they didn't erase the 3 cars selection for every race...

Disagree. Because the default cars are still there and there's still bragging rights to be had by completing all the events with 2 golden chili. In the end it increases replayability of Power Pack because you can try different cars, tunes, etc.

Maybe that's just me but I'll still try to win all the races legit before experimenting.

Also, having no difficulty level doesn't mean the game must be frustrating like Souls. Rockstar's games have no difficulty level and are accessible to everyone.

The ability to use garage cars is a huge improvement mainly for the road car races and endurances. Tailoring the car to your liking has always been a big part of what makes GT the experience it is, but until now everyone was forced to use cars that were terrible to put it mildly. Suspensions so low that there's no room for movement, so stiff that the previous point becomes moot as there isn't any to begin with, and LSDs so locked that it's either understeer city or powerslide galore. Now I can at least look forward to the endurances without dreading the thought of hours of driving a car that has all the compliance of a block of wood with a welded differential.

Further improvements could include stricter regulations, such as year and nationality to prevent things like @Famine 's MC20 mentioned above, and lower PP limits for the chilis but it's probably a work in progress for the future.

Agreed. Civic Si EG in the Civic race is too low for Suzuka. On the other hand, many cars have good handling and motivated me to explore tuning in the main game beyond what I already knew.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

So who's gonna be the first to try and win the Nurburgring 24hr endurance with a Twingo? 😂