Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[raizeL45]

The question I have is: will we be able to turn off the emoji sounds with Sophy? That really irritates me!

Turn off the driver nametags and it goes away

 

[SimTourist]

Please tell me you did not use AI to write this answer 😅

No sir, totally original response

 

[Amor]

PD, take my money

 

[NTGSruler]

To people who complain that this will be a paid DLC.

We spend €20 in Mcdonalds or similar without a blink for something that we'll enjoy 10 minutes, this DLC comes in a game we love and adds 50+ hours of enjoyment. After years of free updates I think it's totally reasonable to make one paid DLC that is actually good not Hamilton DLC with only time trials.

How would you feel paying €20 for that same McDonalds if you got it for free all those years before?

What i want to say: maybe we get B-Spec, endurance races are included and we get Sophy 3.0 which is actually the reason why we have to pay for the DLC. Just know that apart from Sophy 3.0 all the rest was included in the game when you bought it. (Previous GT games).

I said it before, i will buy the DLC but i do hope the races are worth it, the 24hr race is just not "an hour long", we get an option to save in the 24hr race and that the content in general is worth it (which i'm sure it will be).

 

[Deni323]

How would you feel paying €20 for that same McDonalds if you got it for free years before?

Really? You had Sophy for free years before?

In GT7 with top tier visuals with raytracing and 120fps.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Will we be able to bring our own eligible cars for these races? Will qualifying and Sophy 3.0 be only for these races or will it expand to all the base game too if we have the DLC and a PS5?

 

[DapperDan07]

Well… it does after 6 hours in a 24 endurance race and you’re already 14 laps ahead of the AI…

Well yes the standard ai is poor we know that but the fact remains endurances races could’ve been there from day one. People were asking for this feature before sophy even existed

 

[GlamFM]

How would you feel paying €20 for that same McDonalds if you got it for free all those years before?

What i want to say: maybe we get B-Spec, endurance races are included and we get Sophy 3.0 which is actually the reason why we have to pay for the DLC. Just know that apart from Sophy 3.0 all the rest was included in the game when you bought it. (Previous GT games).

It’s apples and oranges. The games of the past that you glorify cost a fraction of what modern games cost to make - with a fraction of the people, too.

Did the old games have features that new ones are missing? Yes.
Is the same true vice versa? Also yes.

The DLC costs money because PD can’t always work for free.

We got completely free support for three years, which nowadays is almost unprecedented. But at some point, fresh money has to come in - especially with no new game on the horizon.

PD chose to monetize a completely optional DLC while continuing to deliver core content (tracks and cars) for free - on the same day, even.


How cool is that?

 

[SimTourist]

Well yes the standard ai is poor we know that but the fact remains endurances races could’ve been there from day one. People were asking for this feature before sophy even existed

I wonder if one of the concerns is running a ps5 for 24 hours, both in terms of heat and power consumption. I think some of earlier PS3 models got cooked by running 24 hour races in GT5.

 

[o000o]

So actually it seems that my (likely seen as wild by most) insight of Sophy, AI, and main career came true. They only put the main career on the game after Sophy is ready, as the AI you'd race against in that career. And they give chase the rabbit format to compensate for the braindead AI's difficulty since GT5, but with good (or at least better) AI, they actually bring back Practice, Qualifying, and Grid Start (which they did for this one in the chili events before) against those.

It's still a poor choice to give chase the rabbit format for braindead AI before, but the real reason they took this long for these events aren't about the events, but about the AI. Maybe even longer for B-Spec (crucial for 24hr races), if it needs even more requirement to be ready. GT7 is still delayed for this long despite having a March 4, 2022 official release date, still working on the main career mode in their AI. Maybe being paid DLC is also for AI development.

 

[RobertHammer]

I wonder if one of the concerns is running a ps5 for 24 hours, both in terms of heat and power consumption. I think some of earlier PS3 models got cooked by running 24 hour races in GT5.

low power mode for GT7 confirmed

 

[BradleyLove]

Having qualification with the brain-dead AI would have been a waste of time, we’d just end up starting P1 every race. It’s makes sense to have left quali until Sophy was in a place where quali would be meaningful.

 

[SimTourist]

So actually it seems that my (likely seen as wild by most) insight of Sophy, AI, and main career came true. They only put the main career on the game after Sophy is ready, as the AI you'd race against in that career. And they give chase the rabbit format to compensate for the braindead AI's difficulty since GT5, but with good (or at least better) AI, they actually bring back Practice, Qualifying, and Grid Start (which they did for this one in the chili events before) against those.

It's still a poor choice to give chase the rabbit format for braindead AI before, but the real reason they took this long for these events aren't about the events, but about the AI. Maybe even longer for B-Spec (crucial for 24hr races), if it needs even more requirement to be ready. GT7 is still delayed for this long despite having a March 4, 2022 official release date, still working on the main career mode in their AI. Maybe being paid DLC is also for AI development.

Rolling starts were implemented back in GT5 as a performance boost, standing starts would tank the framerate as more cars are at full LoD and smoke their tires at the start. Shouldn't be an issue on ps5 though.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

Well, PD doesn't react to other games, do they?😉

And it may work. I was planning to buy PMR at release but now I will wait for more details on this before making a decision.
The price is crucial though. I don't think it will be $/€20, that's almost too low nowadays. My guess is that it will be $/€30 - 35.
But if it's indeed $/€50, as shown on this screenshot, I may still go fo PMR instead.

 

[Reeneman]

My bet was also something around 30-35 bucks but around 50 could be true.
If you take a look at the prices for the intake money it would make sense because you get the 5 mio. in-game credits with the package.

 

[JoaoSilva]

Spec III and the Power Pack DLC are gonna give GT7 a needed breath of fresh air and I'll gladly pay for it given that I've been playing this game since day 1 and they've given us so much content for free and the prospect of having full race weekends against Sophy AI is really enticing and something that this game needed to be honest.

 

[tonidavid5]

Here’s the English translation of your text:


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How can I make you understand that these aren’t AI-generated responses, but simply translations? I could use Google Translate, but from experience, I know it’s less accurate. I could also post directly in French, but I don’t think that would make the exchange enjoyable — or even acceptable — on the forum.

So please, explain to me how a French person who isn’t bilingual is supposed to post on the forum without being subjected to the persistent accusations of a few individuals.

Hey pal! Knock it off! This whole victimism act of yours is starting to get quite irritating in a childish way.

Just express your ideas & opinions to the best of your abilities. There're plenty of us here that where not born in English-speaking countries and do not make a fuss of it. We all do our best and try to have fun. Nobody is grading your grammar as long as you try to convey your ideas. If it needs a couple of additional messages when someone misunderstands a reply, so be it, but it's really laughable that you're trying to sell us you use a LLM strictly to translate your posts.

 

[Haitauer]

Thinking more about it, it seems that GT auto is going to be given a big refresh. Not just these offroad modifications, but way more parts for some cars, and even interior modifications.

OR these might be just special models made exclusively for the Power Pack and not available outside the DLC.

Edit. And by this I mean they are only usable in the "power pack" events - not available to purchase/build/own.

 

[GTboyz]

My only tiny gripe with this DLC would be that it's a shame that Sophy 3.0 is locked behind paywall.

I thought that AI at least should have been a part of base Spec III update.

 

[Reeneman]

My only tiny gripe with this DLC would be that it's a shame that Sophy 3.0 is locked behind paywall.

I thought that AI at least should have been a part of base Spec III update.

True, would agree here.
But we don’t know all the details of the upcoming update.
I would bet that the base game also will get more sophy enhancements and a rollout of Sophy on more tracks.
Probably Sophy 3 means only that it covers the qualifying and/or more weather conditions.

 

[lafouine75]

Here’s the English translation of your text:


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What’s certain is that I’ll still wait for the reviews and player feedback on this Power Pack for the PS5 Pro. If it’s technically convincing, I might give in 😀.
Since I’m a 100% single-player gamer, it partly meets my expectations.

 

[Cayit]

It’s apples and oranges. The games of the past that you glorify cost a fraction of what modern games cost to make - with a fraction of the people, too.

Did the old games have features that new ones are missing? Yes.
Is the same true vice versa? Also yes.

The DLC costs money because PD can’t always work for free.

We got completely free support for three years, which nowadays is almost unprecedented. But at some point, fresh money has to come in - especially with no new game on the horizon.

PD chose to monetize a completely optional DLC while continuing to deliver core content (tracks and cars) for free - on the same day, even.


How cool is that

OK, But it's not our Fault when PD has delivered a Haf-Baked Game at Release!
We paid the Full Price but didn't get a Full Game...
So please stop always saying that we should be thankful for the FREE UPDATES...

 

[GlamFM]

OK, But it's not our Fault when PD has delivered a Haf-Baked Game at Release!
We paid the Full Price but didn't get a Full Game...
So please stop always saying that we should be thankful for the FREE UPDATES...

Hell no I won't.

The game you bought is the game you got. You knew what you were getting into and made a choice to buy in - cool.

Everything that came after that was free and I'm thankful for that.

Almost unprecedented in the medium and certainly in the genre.

 

[MagpieRacer]

OK, But it's not our Fault when PD has delivered a Haf-Baked Game at Release!
We paid the Full Price but didn't get a Full Game...
So please stop always saying that we should be thankful for the FREE UPDATES...

It's a valid viewpoint. Plenty of games in the past have released half baked, not had free updates, expected us to pay for DLC and then less than 2 years later release a new full priced title without having fixed the previous one and expect us to go all in.

Depending on the price of this DLC I think the viewpoint of being thankful for how much free stuff we have had is perfectly valid. Some of it rests on how much we're expected to pay for this pack. I agree that it's offering certain things that should have come sooner or have been promised sooner though.

 

[rikiflsh_99]

Let us hope they paid attention to Forza Motorsport for long enough to realise everyone complained about not being able to easily skip practice sessions in that game.

By the looks of it you should be able to skip a session (at least practice)

 

[NTGSruler]

Really? You had Sophy for free years before?

In GT7 with top tier visuals with raytracing and 120fps.

Did you read my reply??

I'm literally saying we have to pay for Sophy 3.0.

 

[SimTourist]

Hell no I won't.

The game you bought is the game you got. You knew what you were getting into and made a choice to buy in - cool.

Everything that came after that was free and I'm thankful for that.

Almost unprecedented in the medium and certainly in the genre.

Honestly free updates are pretty nice, back on PS2 you would get the game printed on disc and that was it. They could've easily held back all the new cars and tracks for GT8 or sold them for 10 dollars a pop.

 

[benjoi84]

Maybe, just maybe this DLC is the fruit of the always-online condition of GT7.

The content is probably mostly stuff that would have been effectively impossible to implement without these 3 years of observation and data collection.

Just a thought.

 

[NTGSruler]

It’s apples and oranges. The games of the past that you glorify cost a fraction of what modern games cost to make - with a fraction of the people, too.

Did the old games have features that new ones are missing? Yes.
Is the same true vice versa? Also yes.

The DLC costs money because PD can’t always work for free.

We got completely free support for three years, which nowadays is almost unprecedented. But at some point, fresh money has to come in - especially with no new game on the horizon.

PD chose to monetize a completely optional DLC while continuing to deliver core content (tracks and cars) for free - on the same day, even.


How cool is that?

I get that, very true what you are saying.
I just feel endurance races should have been there from the launch of GT7. Now it feels a bit sour to have to pay for it + how many races will actually be 24hr?

As i'm saying it now for the third time: i have no problem paying for the DLC. I just feel some things we had for free back in the old days.

 

[o000o]

These have always seemed like the easiest aspects to implement into the game, PD somehow nailed all the hard stuff and left the structure out, it’s so weird. I’m glad we’re getting some of it now, better late then never, but it’s still very frustrating that it’s locked behind a secondary pay wall to have it.

He’s talking about the event structure and the more thought out event cards and entry requirements, not inherently the AI you compete against in them. And he’s right, pretty much every single other GT game prior had a very creative and iconic list of events in the campaign, 7 was like 80% Sunday, Clubman, Drivetrain specific, or WTC events, with basically the only restrictions being the PP cap, nothing else. Weight, power, modification parts, it was basically all unrestricted “drive everything” slop. Thats fine in chunks, but when it’s the majority there’s no direction or structure or memorable content.

While this is a legitimate complaint, what about those who'd complain about racing against braindead AI, or even if chase the rabbit format isn't used, that the game is too easy to win with qualifying present, or that if there's rubberbanding, then the races are rigged?

Many people here complain about the GT's list of events, like always starting with Sunday Cup, or them never changing the roster like always giving the same Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup, Drivetrain Challenge, etc. all over again from GT1 to the latest GT. I wish that both aspects of previous GT and GT7's events are kept where there are different level in an events, like Drivetrain Challenges with more powerful cars, rather than just using it as one of the starter events.

Good to have extra content ofcourse, the whole "it should be in the game at launch" theory is not valid ofcourse, it just does not work that way, i finished the game quite quick with some real grinding to buy all cars, so i am sort of a timetrial only person , that's fine with the playtime i have. so then this DLC maby isn't for me, i don't know yet... am i willing to to pay that much if true?

It's about adding these events to the game but dunno if people may just forget Sophy or think that Sophy is still terrible.

I cant wait.

My only concern is will this really show Kaz how much people want a truer racing experience? If loads of people buy will he realise most people want qualifying, and racing from a grid start?

I truly hope so... But by making this paid dlc, in a game this old, I dont think he will get the correct metric.

What'd you/people think/feel about racing against the GT7's beginning AI with qualifying and grid start?

yes but this was before PD showed actual B-Spec so now anything is possible

in regards to the DLC , if its not expensive i will most likely get it , also if it was up to me i would have packed some new Gr.3 to it

How to properly evaluate about what's actually being worked on or not?

Agree about Sophy AI, but "carrer/racing mode" should be from the beggining.

PMR - I'll buy standard edition. It's all I need.

Qualifying against braindead AI.