Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[Nakano219]

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Wikipedia handily has a page explaining how query strings work in URLs (and specifically the need for a question mark), for those who need extra assurance that that $50 picture isn't real.

 

[evldave333]

Seems Ppl totally ignored this leaked image? You may take a look at the bottom right of the Screenshot tho

Just to clarify, thx @padrome for the OG posting
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Well if its £50 I will wait for at least 50% sale whilst driving the new free tracks instead, and if you capitualte and pay it you have no sympathy from me. I want a full game for that price point and Project Motor Racing could be the move. You know the DLC is thin (one race per location + some layout variants) if its getting in game credits bundled thrown in too.

 

[Bogie 19th]

I don't have a PS5

 

[CitroenCX]

The 50€ DLC price doesn't track against the full game. The full game is currently at 69.99€, not discounted. Makes no sense for a DLC to be almost the full price of the game.

(especially if the full game goes on sale during the holiday period, making it potentially cheaper than the DLC).

With some virtual elbow greasing I found a brand-new Japanese copy of GT7 a few years ago in Japanese site for $20 and which I bought and still own.
That's also mean that I will simply get lock out of purchasing Power Pack DLC due to region difference in game/store content unless I buy the game again in my region which GT7 barely got discounted, so I guess no Power Pack DLC for me lol.
I thought PD was done with paid DLC since GT6 that's why decided it's better to save money and bought a new Japanese copy for $20 it seemed like a steal deal to me at that moment.
Guess I'll be buying the sequel in my region next time.

 

[jrbabbitt]

I don't have one either nor am I crazy, just on a very limited income....

 

[Belifant]

With some virtual elbow greasing I found a brand-new Japanese copy of GT7 a few years ago in Japanese site for $20 and which I bought and still own.
That's also mean that I will simply get lock out of purchasing Power Pack DLC due to region difference in game/store content unless I buy the game again in my region which GT7 barely got discounted, so I guess no Power Pack DLC for me lol.
I thought PD was done with paid DLC since GT6 that's why decided it's better to save money and bought a new Japanese copy for $20 it seemed like a steal deal to me at that moment.
Guess I'll be buying the sequel in my region next time.

haha that's what you get for trying to be clever (jk)

I'm sure they will bundle the DLC with the full game and in 6 months there will be a sale too.

 

[Bogie 19th]

I don't have one either nor am I crazy, just on a very limited income....

I was just ****in' with him.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Seems Ppl totally ignored this leaked image? You may take a look at the bottom right of the Screenshot tho

Just to clarify, thx @padrome for the OG posting
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[Nattefrost]

I have never bought the credits in the game. But if $40 is the price for $5 million credits in the game, and even if they reduced that to $30 for this DLC, there is still the rest of the DLC included yet. $39-$49 "sounds" about right. But if it is $19.99, that works for me too!

I wouldn't use the price of credit microtransactions as an indication of DLC pricing. I find it hard to believe that anyone buys those credits, outside of a select group of whales perhaps.

 

[RaY29rus]

Is't the new DLC just a bunch of races?

Well, doesn't seem like it, honestly. You sure can put it that way, but with Hamilton DLC I believe it was literally just that - a few time-attack events, and some would say 8$ was not a justified price (unless I'm wrong and forgot what content it had). While this one is really hard to call "just a bunch of races", considering it has new game modes, new AI, extra credits (which they already ask quite a lot for) and it looks like it features unique customized cars as rewards. And we don't even know all details yet, judging by "More details to follow." in the end of GT website article. So ye, wouldn't be surprised if they ask more than $7.99 for it.

 

[OldandSlow]

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[Dave A]

No, I'm tight .

 

[The Chosen One]

Eh, I bought a PS4 when it was relatively new, assuming that the next numbered Gran Turismo game would land on it. So that's where I've been playing GT7. I'm not planning to buy a PS5 just to get an expansion pack for that same game.

That's too bad, I would've liked to have more properly-themed racing events instead of the countless Sunday/Clubman/Touring Car variants.

I'm in the same boat, honestly. GT7 is the only PS game I’ve played for the past few years. So if I can somehow snag a disc drive PS5 for cheap in the future, then I’ll consider.

At the very least I’ll still be getting all of the new Spec III cars on my PS4 version.

 

[NTGSruler]

50 euros for a game within a game (all the new features are only available with the Power Pack) is definitely too much for me.

At most, 25 euros.

Especially considering that we now have to pay for something that was already included at full price in previous titles.

The more comments I read here, the more this DLC looks like a paid version of the missions.

Except there are fewer races than in the missions.

Exactly my feeling.

It think it's strange that we have to pay for 50 races with Sophy 3.0 while Sophy in general was implemented in the game for free.

Also a feature like Data Logger is free with the Spec III update. A feature i think only the most hardcore racing fans here will use. So it would make more sense to me if they asked to pay for such feature instead of endurance races.

Now i hope the rumour that B-Spec is in the DLC, that would certainly justify a price of 30-40 €.

 

[GlamFM]

So ye, wouldn't be surprised if they ask more than $7.99 for it.

I'm with you here, but I think that $20 is the sweet spot.

The credits they give you age negligable. It's just virtual currency that they can just throw in there as another goodie.

 

[hawkeyez]

I’m all for DLC (paid) but for content and lots of it, not scripted races. This feels like paying for more events and gaining access to a better AI? Really you want us to pay for better AI? That doesn’t make any sense. I’d be down for dlc or 5 more muscle cars and a couple tracks or some group 5 cars with a couple tracks and keep that coming every few months. But pay money for race events? What the?! PMR is coming out and that’s how you approach keeping your players? Weird.

 

[NTGSruler]

I'm with you here, but I think that $20 is the sweet spot.

The credits they give you age negligable. It's just virtual currency that they can just throw in there as another goodie.

Yes, but.... 5 million currency saves you about 6 hours of grinding in the game.

 

[GlamFM]

Yes, but.... 5 million currency saves you about 6 hours of grinding in the game.

Yes, and? 6 hours of not playing the game should be worth $50 to us?

It's virtual currency, a goodie PD can just pack in to make their DLC just a bit shinier.

 

[hawkeyez]

Yes, but.... 5 million currency saves you about 6 hours of grinding in the game.

I think that should be higher. $20 says that 5 million you get is used up needing to buy certain cars or tuning them to do some of the new events. They’ll use those credits somewhere on you in a way you don’t want to spend them. I’d pay for the power pack dlc if it included making the game less of a grind. Let me do what we all do on sardegna, lemans and spa at all other tracks at the very least.

 

[venom85]

Yes, but.... 5 million currency saves you about 6 hours of grinding in the game.

If you need 6h vor 5 mil cr. you do something wrong...

 

[Celso9]

I’m all for DLC (paid) but for content and lots of it, not scripted races. This feels like paying for more events and gaining access to a better AI? Really you want us to pay for better AI? That doesn’t make any sense. I’d be down for dlc or 5 more muscle cars and a couple tracks or some group 5 cars with a couple tracks and keep that coming every few months. But pay money for race events? What the?! PMR is coming out and that’s how you approach keeping your players? Weird.

I agree with you, but also.... IDK, this might be a fanboy of me cause I live, breathe, eat Gran Turismo.... But we get a lot of free stuff from the developers that other companies would at least charge 5$ for.... Sure, they have the microtransactions (Which I have not touched since day one), but other than that.... One paid content drop in 3 years of the game's lifespan is not a bad trade-off. Just my two cents on this. I know I will be getting this day one.

 

[Famine]

It think it's strange that we have to pay for 50 races with Sophy 3.0 while Sophy in general was implemented in the game for free.

A key question here is what does Sophy 3.0 bring to the table in terms of capabilities that Sophy 2.0 in the regular game (except for PS4 players) does not have?

At present, nothing has been specifically noted (like... at all), but I'm imagining at the very least that if we're doing endurance races against it, it'll be able to plan its stops and strategy - which S2 cannot do - and quite a bit better than the regular AI which sometimes pits for tyres but not fuel only to then have to stop for fuel but not tyres.

Full B-Spec is, of course, also possible but... «doubt»

It could also all be a monetised beta/market research for the whole endurance feature before it's implemented in GT[next] in a couple of years.


Also interesting to see comments about mid-race saves. This is basically built into the PS5 (kinda), as it'll resume your game from sleep. Of course you won't be able to play any other games and resume but hey, why would you even want to.

 

[hawkeyez]

I agree with you, but also.... IDK, this might be a fanboy of me cause I live, breathe, eat Gran Turismo.... But we get a lot of free stuff from the developers that other companies would at least charge 5$ for.... Sure, they have the microtransactions (Which I have not touched since day one), but other than that.... One paid content drop in 3 years of the game's lifespan is not a bad trade-off. Just my two cents on this. I know I will be getting this day one.

I agree, but the game is 3-4 years old now, I was expecting to start paying for car packs and track packs. Not handing out money for single player race events? Idk just seems odd to me. Surely cars take more time to produce and also tracks rather than some race events?

In my opinion, it should be paid DLC for tracks from this point on. Packs of two tracks every few months. Maybe toss in small groups of themed cars like muscle cars or so fix race car classes. I’d gladly pay now to get more can am cars. That type of thing. Stuff is missing from the game but instead we’re paying for more races?!

 

[Voodoovaj]

Anything above $20 will be outrageous. I don't care how much the credit MTX cost. Those are ridiculously overpriced anyway, so using them as a barometer is not the gotcha people think it is. I keep bouncing off the 100 mil limit, I don't care about an extra 5 mil. I just want the races.

I don't want to overly justify a price that we have NO IDEA is real or not, but I'm reading through this thread and there's a disconnect between wishful thinking and reality.

First up, you get 5million credits. 2million credits = $20USD on PS Play store. Ergo, 5million = $50USD. Whether you agree with the idea of buying credits or not, that is their price so, viewed through the lens of buying the DLC, you're getting money's worth in credits PLUS all the content does work out to a good deal.

We've also had a global inflation crisis which runs around 25% above 2020 levels, almost 30% above 2019 when the Lewis Hamilton DLC was released. And, remember, all that offered was some TT events and a change to the in game credits cap. This is offering at least 2 new cars (on top of the Spec 3 offering) and the single player events many have been calling for since the launch of the game.

Some animals on here will power through a 24 hour race in 24 hours, but most will attack it in chunks. If you play it 1 hour a day, it will take you the better part of a month. I figure the average will be 2 weeks.

I think we've been spoiled by how much they've given us for free. I'll be the first to admit that I was disappointed at launch, but they stepped up and over delivered on content in the past 3.5 years....3.5 YEARS. Sure, we all love free stuff. This won't be free stuff. So, everyone will have the choice to cough up extra, or not. Given how much entertainment I get out of this game, over the last almost 30 years, I don't feel so bad about coughing up (allegedly) $50 for this.

A key question here is what does Sophy 3.0 bring to the table in terms of capabilities that Sophy 2.0 in the regular game (except for PS4 players) does not have?

At present, nothing has been specifically noted (like... at all), but I'm imagining at the very least that if we're doing endurance races against it, it'll be able to plan its stops and strategy - which S2 cannot do - and quite a bit better than the regular AI which sometimes pits for tyres but not fuel only to then have to stop for fuel but not tyres.

Full B-Spec is, of course, also possible but... «doubt»

IMHO, given what's happening in the custom race thread, I imagine the Sophy 3.0 will be akin to Sophy 2.0 on weak boost but without that HORRENDOUS ultra boost it gets when it's too far behind. If they delivered just that, it would be a win in my books.

That's what kills endurance racing in custom races now. You need the boost set to weak to make it fun, but if you use your wits and skill to build up a good lead, it evaporates inside a lap because of that boost.

It could also all be a monetised beta/market research for the whole endurance feature before it's implemented in GT[next] in a couple of years.

100% agreed on this. The event designers need to know this info when planning out the events for GT8. Also, I mentioned above, this is a great expansion of content to keep people playing until the (likely) release of a 30th anniversary edition.

 

[KAlex122]

Also interesting to see comments about mid-race saves. This is basically built into the PS5 (kinda), as it'll resume your game from sleep. Of course you won't be able to play any other games and resume but hey, why would you even want to.

Yess to everything else you wrote but only using the sleep mode to get done with a 24h race would be a joke. Imagine me doing an hour of GT a day would mean my wife not being able to play games for weeks. That's a big flaw.

 

[Celso9]

I agree, but the game is 3-4 years old now, I was expecting to start paying for car packs and track packs. Not handing out money for single player race events? Idk just seems odd to me. Surely cars take more time to produce and also tracks rather than some race events?

In my opinion, it should be paid DLC for tracks from this point on. Packs of two tracks every few months. Maybe toss in small groups of themed cars like muscle cars or so fix race car classes. I’d gladly pay now to get more can am cars. That type of thing. Stuff is missing from the game but instead we’re paying for more races?!

I'm also not a big fan of having content like cars and tracks locked behind a paywall.... but I dont 100% disagree with you. Maybe this will be worth it, I am pretty excited for the content.

 

[dacc10]

Doesn’t anyone still here already have hundreds of hours in the game and yet still some complain about it being paid DLC? I’m just happy they are releasing something this substantial three years after launch, I don’t really care about the price at this point.

Super cool to see them still supporting the game in such a significant way.

This is one of the biggest problems with modern gaming. You whales (not the animal) will literally pay anything for any half-assed content. And you even have the audacity to say that you don't care about the price. I guess it could be 200€ and you'd buy any way.
It's quite funny that we are seeing a similar problem with Fallout 4, and the excuses from the hardcore fans/whales are pretty much the same.

The worst part, is that they are adding paid DLC with content that should have been in the base game, if not since launch, atleast should have been added through updates. And it's PS5 exclusive, so it pretty much a 500€ DLC for those who would be forced to upgrade.

And to be honest, even if I had a PS5, I wouldn't buy the DLC anyway. If I were to even entertain the idea of buying it, I wouldn't pay more than 5€ for it. Yet I've seen people sayjng they will pay up to 20/30$.

Mediocre why? Spec II was really good.

Spec II was good. Everything else has been more a miss than a hit.

The cars in Spec II were the stars of that update, meanwhile in smaller updates the cars added have been "questionable", to put it nicely, borderline uninspiring/not worth the time in many cases. In the "big 2025", most brands have hilariously outdated rosters. It's in fact so bad, that 3.5 years after release, and after 130 cars added via updates, the list remains outdated for 2022!

Lets also not forget that the first track added via update, was a duplicate (Spa) with a different pit stop. They didn't even bother trying different layouts from existing tracks, like Tsukuba using those extra corners to the right after turn 7, or the Bugatti circuit in Le Mans.

In the end most updates have been disappointing, and it becomes quite insulting that one of the things people were asking - more and better offline events - is now locked behind a paywall.
So players either have the option of not paying, and being limited to the boring and uninspired campaing for GT7, or pay to get a decent campaign with content that should be part of the main game.

 

[hawkeyez]

I don't want to overly justify a price that we have NO IDEA is real or not, but I'm reading through this thread and there's a disconnect between wishful thinking and reality.

First up, you get 5million credits. 2million credits = $20USD on PS Play store. Ergo, 5million = $50USD. Whether you agree with the idea of buying credits or not, that is their price so, viewed through the lens of buying the DLC, you're getting money's worth in credits PLUS all the content does work out to a good deal.

We've also had a global inflation crisis which runs around 25% above 2020 levels, almost 30% above 2019 when the Lewis Hamilton DLC was released. And, remember, all that offered was some TT events and a change to the in game credits cap. This is offering at least 2 new cars (on top of the Spec 3 offering) and the single player events many have been calling for since the launch of the game.

Some animals on here will power through a 24 hour race in 24 hours, but most will attack it in chunks. If you play it 1 hour a day, it will take you the better part of a month. I figure the average will be 2 weeks.

I think we've been spoiled by how much they've given us for free. I'll be the first to admit that I was disappointed at launch, but they stepped up and over delivered on content in the past 3.5 years....3.5 YEARS. Sure, we all love free stuff. This won't be free stuff. So, everyone will have the choice to cough up extra, or not. Given how much entertainment I get out of this game, over the last almost 30 years, I don't feel so bad about coughing up (allegedly) $50 for this.

$50 and I expect some more cars and more tracks to come. At that price I’m better off taking my chances with Project Motor Racing and tossing another $50 at it and getting a lot more different tracks and cars than what’s in GT7. If it included more stuff like some kind of season pass, $50 for what they’re offering right now and cars and tracks to come, sure I’d probably pay it. But paying $50 for some race events and an “upgraded” Sophy seems weird to me. Idk maybe I’m missing something. Awhile ago I mentioned dlc content and people were angry with me, now this pops up which doesn’t include actually content just races and tweaked AI and people are all for it?

 

[Siasi0]

That’s the only dlc i would buy(if it isn’t the price they mentioned)

 

[Famine]

2million credits = $20USD on PS Play store. Ergo, 5million = $50USD.

As I noted earlier in the thread, the prices scale according to credit value - and you can't buy 5m outright.

The four packs are 100,000cr at $2.49, 250,000cr at $4.99, 750,000cr at $9.99, and 2,000,000cr at $19.99 - giving approximate values of 40,000cr/$, 50,000cr/$, 75,000cr/$, and 100,000cr/$.

That's actually a constant scaling rate, so assuming that the way they scale would continue to other values, 5m would be 125,000cr/$ and therefore priced at $40 (or $39.99, as they're all x.x9 prices).

Given that there are now additional, free bonus credits for some game versions to mark the 100m GT copies sold (through) - offering roughly $10 and $13 of MTX for free - one can also conclude that a portion of the 5m credits will be free, although obviously we have no way of knowing how much. I also put this in at the end of the article.


And, all that aside, the image showing the $50 price is fake from top to bottom. That doesn't mean it can't be true, but it will only accidentally be the case if so.