Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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What do you expect the Power Pack DLC will cost?


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I agree, but the game is 3-4 years old now, I was expecting to start paying for car packs and track packs. Not handing out money for single player race events? Idk just seems odd to me. Surely cars take more time to produce and also tracks rather than some race events?

In my opinion, it should be paid DLC for tracks from this point on. Packs of two tracks every few months. Maybe toss in small groups of themed cars like muscle cars or so fix race car classes. I’d gladly pay now to get more can am cars. That type of thing. Stuff is missing from the game but instead we’re paying for more races?!
I might be missing your point here, but... you would prefer to pay for the content you want (cars and tracks, which we are getting for free in the upcoming Spec III update) and recieve new races for free (which you don't seem to want that much)? Instead of, you know, just not buying paid DLC with stuff you don't want and get content you want completely for free?
 
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The mind boggles... I never expected a paid expansion that wasn't Tourist Trophy mode. (So there's a chance?!)

Well, the reasons for it seem obvious:
1. Income.
2. The only way to add curated Sophy races and escape PS4 feature parity.

If it's yank$50, and therefore dollarydoo$74.95, I have no interest in it until half price or less. I still have endless driving options I've already paid for without it, especially with two new tracks in the same month!
 
Yess to everything else you wrote but only using the sleep mode to get done with a 24h race would be a joke. Imagine me doing an hour of GT a day would mean my wife not being able to play games for weeks. That's a big flaw.
Does it work though, with the game being always online? I never tried it, but always assumed you would get kicked out of the race.
 
I might be missing your point here, but... you would prefer to pay for the content you want (cars and tracks, which we are getting for free in the upcoming Spec III update) and recieve new races for free (which you don't seem to want that much)? Instead of, you know, just not buying paid DLC with stuff you don't want and get content you want completely for free?
Spec III doesn’t have cars and tracks I want. Maybe that clears it up for you. If power pack was group 5 cars (5 of them), 60/70’s trans am cars (5 of them), can am cars (4 of them) with more tracks coming in the future, then yes I’m ok with that. Another thing I don’t think is right but I’d be ok with is if the power pack paid dlc came with fixes like custom hud, more custom folders for sorting the garage, gifting cars and sharing tunes with a click of a button.
 
Re: the endurance events; will it come with changes relating to being online full-time? If you have an ISP blackout or power outage in your area when you finish the race all progress is lost, and after doing 2, 4, 12 or (!!!) 24h racing and not having any progress saved by an outage will guarantee a new DualSense replacement every time it happens :banghead::ouch::lol:
 
I am excited about the DLC but when I get it depends on the price. I have about 5 or 6 games that I would like to buy so I have figure out where that DLC would fall
 
This is one of the biggest problems with modern gaming. You whales (not the animal) will literally pay anything for any half-assed content. And you even have the audacity to say that you don't care about the price. I guess it could be 200€ and you'd buy any way.
It's quite funny that we are seeing a similar problem with Fallout 4, and the excuses from the hardcore fans/whales are pretty much the same.

The worst part, is that they are adding paid DLC with content that should have been in the base game, if not since launch, atleast should have been added through updates. And it's PS5 exclusive, so it pretty much a 500€ DLC for those who would be forced to upgrade.

And to be honest, even if I had a PS5, I wouldn't buy the DLC anyway. If I were to even entertain the idea of buying it, I wouldn't pay more than 5€ for it. Yet I've seen people sayjng they will pay up to 20/30$.


Spec II was good. Everything else has been more a miss than a hit.

The cars in Spec II were the stars of that update, meanwhile in smaller updates the cars added have been "questionable", to put it nicely, borderline uninspiring/not worth the time in many cases. In the "big 2025", most brands have hilariously outdated rosters. It's in fact so bad, that 3.5 years after release, and after 130 cars added via updates, the list remains outdated for 2022!

Lets also not forget that the first track added via update, was a duplicate (Spa) with a different pit stop. They didn't even bother trying different layouts from existing tracks, like Tsukuba using those extra corners to the right after turn 7, or the Bugatti circuit in Le Mans.

In the end most updates have been disappointing, and it becomes quite insulting that one of the things people were asking - more and better offline events - is now locked behind a paywall.
So players either have the option of not paying, and being limited to the boring and uninspired campaing for GT7, or pay to get a decent campaign with content that should be part of the main game.
There was absolutely no reason to attack @PlatoonRacer like that. Completely uncalled for. There's nothing in their post to suggest that they're a whale.

You come across as extremely entitled. It's not a great look.
 
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Of course you won't be able to play any other games and resume but hey, why would you even want to.
There are other games ? 😱
 
Does it work though, with the game being always online? I never tried it, but always assumed you would get kicked out of the race.
That's... not what "always online" means. It only means that when the game is running it needs to ping the server every few seconds. In sleep, the game is not technically running. It resumes right back to the point you left off.

You'd get kicked out of a multiplayer race if you paused it and set the console to sleep, but not single-player races.

If it's yank$50
The $50 image is fake. Not necessarily wrong, but fake.
Spec III doesn’t have cars and tracks I want. Maybe that clears it up for you. If power pack was group 5 cars (5 of them), 60/70’s trans am cars (5 of them), can am cars (4 of them) with more tracks coming in the future, then yes I’m ok with that.
Since GT Sport, the whole ethos has been not to divide the playerbase and make the multiplayer pay-to-play/pay-to-win. You're not likely to get cars or tracks as paid DLC, no matter how much you want to pay for them.

The three (so far) cars shown with currently unavailable mods are a bit of a mystery on that front though. They may just show new tuning parts or be something like the GT:HD "/Tuned" cars - ending up being like the RX-Vision Stealth/X2019 Anniversary: visually different but treated as identical to their standard counterparts for collection and multiplayer purposes.

Incidentally, if there's cars and tracks you want in the game, have you been using the Suggestions forum and Wishlist thread to suggest, highlight, and vote for them? PD has openly stated that it uses multiple sources, including forums - and it very much knows who we are; the Suggestions forum was set up at its request - to generate long- and short-lists for future content, and these are the most organised places on this site for that purpose.

There are also other games of course. You can even mod whatever cars/tracks you like into AC and give it a GT HUD.
 
A key question here is what does Sophy 3.0 bring to the table in terms of capabilities that Sophy 2.0 in the regular game (except for PS4 players) does not have?

At present, nothing has been specifically noted (like... at all), but I'm imagining at the very least that if we're doing endurance races against it, it'll be able to plan its stops and strategy - which S2 cannot do - and quite a bit better than the regular AI which sometimes pits for tyres but not fuel only to then have to stop for fuel but not tyres.

Full B-Spec is, of course, also possible but... «doubt»

It could also all be a monetised beta/market research for the whole endurance feature before it's implemented in GT[next] in a couple of years.


Also interesting to see comments about mid-race saves. This is basically built into the PS5 (kinda), as it'll resume your game from sleep. Of course you won't be able to play any other games and resume but hey, why would you even want to.
Thanks for the reply!

It remains to be seen what S3 is all about. No doubt it will be good.

Market research: as i said before, i think it's a shame that they now "lock" endurance races behind a paywall. A feature/races we had/could unlock in previous titles. For now i'm willing to pay for it, but if this becomes the "norm" for GT8 where they start "gatekeeping" certain modes/races behind a paywall, them i'm out.

Sleep mode PS5: Yes. But... Ever tried using the resume function on PS5? I personally don't use it, because it's very buggy and sometimes the PS5 gives a black screen if you want to resume. And i'm on a PS5Pro. So i rather have the option to save mid-race please.
 
It's genuinely hilarious to see some people try to justify 50 notes for a dlc and by highlighting you get events too. You should pay for content only, not script that's there because single player was poorly thought out. Having said that I struggle to believe PD will charge over 20 for this, 25 max. I'm gonna go out on a whim and say it will be 12.99.
 
It's genuinely hilarious to see some people try to justify 50 notes for a dlc and by highlighting you get events too. You should pay for content only, not script that's there because single player was poorly thought out. Having said that I struggle to believe PD will charge over 20 for this, 25 max. I'm gonna go out on a whim and say it will be 12.99.
Someone should set up a poll what the price will be and the winner who voted right gets the DLC for free as a prize! Just kidding.

The DLC will cost 29.99€ for sure.
 
Just as an aside, PD has added 50 races (well, 46 I think?) to GT7 since Spec II. Mostly short ones though.
Yes. But... Ever tried using the resume function on PS5?
No. I always use it (bar the full reboot every couple of weeks), and have never had any issues of any kind on either console.

This contrasts remarkably with the Xbox Series resume feature as applied to Forza Horizon 5, where virtually anything can happen (most commonly events and traffic vanishing) and usually requires a full game shutdown and console reboot to resolve.

Edit: In fact I use in on the PS4 which only gets booted up once a week to do the Weekly Challenges. Haven't actually restarted that console in about eight months... I should probably do that.
 
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I'm gonna assume the 5 million credits are a bonus inclusion and they would have priced the DLC the same whether those were included or not; basically a little extra incentive to buy the DLC.
That's probably a safe assumption, the purpose of the DLC is clearly the new Power Pack game mode and whatever events and features that brings with it. The 5 million Cr will likely have been added as a sweetener to entice more people to buy the DLC.
 
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Sleep mode PS5: Yes. But... Ever tried using the resume function on PS5? I personally don't use it, because it's very buggy and sometimes the PS5 gives a black screen if you want to resume. And i'm on a PS5Pro. So i rather have the option to save mid-race please.
I've used it fairly consistently with a wide variety of games and feel like it works well. Never from a paused race in GT7 though. I would say the functionality itself is fine, but I do agree with you that an in-game save option for longer races would be preferable. At the very least it would provide more flexibility to do other stuff on the PS5 in between.
 
I'm gonna assume the 5 million credits are a bonus inclusion and they would have priced the DLC the same whether those were included or not; basically a little extra incentive to buy the DLC.
I hope this is not a gimmick to justify a hefty price "see you get 5M credit that cost ~40$/€ on their own, so the overall price is good"

I don't care (anymore) for 5M credits.

As for the resume function, I use it all the time, it failed once or twice in 4 years.
 
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I've used it fairly consistently with a wide variety of games and feel like it works well. Never from a paused race in GT7 though. I would say the functionality itself is fine, but I do agree with you that an in-game save option for longer races would be preferable. At the very least it would provide more flexibility to do other stuff on the PS5 in between.
If there are no mid game saves I probably won't be doing any 24 hour endurance races. I might play GT7 for a hour and a half at most. I don't get to game as much as I used to in the past so I usually endeavor to play at least 3 or 4 games when I do get to play.
 
This is very interesting, indeed! As a PS4 player, I think it makes perfect sense for this to be PS5-exclusive, since I think the real main draw of this is Sophy 3.0, and we've known for quite a while that Sophy in general is exclusive to the PS5, let alone a "3.0" version of it. I'm mostly hoping that the new customization options aren't necessarily exclusive to this pack and are indeed part of the broader Spec III release.

Indeed, I have a hunch that any potential prize cars that'd be included in this robust campaign may simply have special liveries, not unlike the GTWS Viewers Campaign for those first two rounds. Speaking of which, I also just noticed that all three cars with the new parts - a Beetle, a 911 (964) and an AE86 - are exclusive to the UCD, so maybe they're special for having zero mileage like the Supra (A80) and RX-7 (FC) that're rewards for tuning into the most recent round in LA.

All of this being said, I'm still hoping for additional mission sets - though the revamped Weekly Challenges that are coming in Spec III could very well prove to be a superior option. (However, more endurances in the vein of that one-hour WTC 800 round at Spa-Francorchamps would be splendid, even if they're not necessarily as long as the 24h ones coming in the Power Pack. I'm also still waiting on a Gr.1 Prototype Series round at Le Mans, even if it's a relatively shorter race like the WTC 800 round at the Nurburgring 24h layout.)

EDIT: Plus, I think these upcoming 24h races would make for great livestream material.
 
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Another thing of utmost importance that we haven’t even talked about yet is the name.

“Power pack”. I will ask ChatGPT later if it can come up with something even less fitting and more generic, but until then I think this might be peak.
 
Just as an aside, PD has added 50 races (well, 46 I think?) to GT7 since Spec II. Mostly short ones though.

No. I always use it (bar the full reboot every couple of weeks), and have never had any issues of any kind on either console.

This contrasts remarkably with the Xbox Series resume feature as applied to Forza Horizon 5, where virtually anything can happen (most commonly events and traffic vanishing) and usually requires a full game shutdown and console reboot to resolve.
Okay nice! Personally i haven't had much luck with that function then. Even if there would be no option for a mid-race save, i'll problably put the race on pause, back out of the game and put an animated wallpaper on in the Welcome Hub and leave my PS5 on.
I've used it fairly consistently with a wide variety of games and feel like it works well. Never from a paused race in GT7 though. I would say the functionality itself is fine, but I do agree with you that an in-game save option for longer races would be preferable. At the very least it would provide more flexibility to do other stuff on the PS5 in between.
Fully agree. Personally i never use the resume function, i rather save, upload to PS Cloud and shutdown my PS5. For other games ofc. GT7 is online automatically.
 
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I agree with you, but also.... IDK, this might be a fanboy of me cause I live, breathe, eat Gran Turismo.... But we get a lot of free stuff from the developers that other companies would at least charge 5$ for.... Sure, they have the microtransactions (Which I have not touched since day one), but other than that.... One paid content drop in 3 years of the game's lifespan is not a bad trade-off. Just my two cents on this. I know I will be getting this day one.
You are not wrong, but the value of such "free content" has to be contextualized. If PD gives away for free content that nobody wants, is it really free?

I mean, 99.9% of the playerbase wouldn't pay for the Toyota Alphard, or the Hipace.
Putting either of those in a 5 car pack for 5$, would be bad, because they would be forcing players to pay for them, to get access to the cars they actually want that may be available in the pack.
If they gave those crappy things for free, but put the cars that players actually wanted as paid DLC, it would feel quite insulting.
They couldn't also release cars that were already premium in past games, because even though they are remodeled, it would feel like content had been held back just to sell to players.

Paid DLCs would require PD to listen to players, to make sure the packs would be desirable, with cars that players actually want.
Any sort of "Season Pass", that accounts for all paid DLCs, would have to be nicely priced, and would require transparency as to what content would be available. Imagine paying 50$ for it, to get 130 cars, which include things like random SUVs, random vans, duplicates, VGTs, cars from previous games, and only a few absolutely new to the franchise and highly desirable cars. This wouldn't cut it.

We also have to contextualize the GT Sport and GT7 base car lists. GTS had a pretty bad car list. People bought the game under the premise that it would end up getting up to 500 cars via free updates. Although we didn't get to 500, not even close, the cars added were most of the time pretty good.
In GT7 the car list was severely outdated, smaller than the direct competition (Forza), so free updates were pretty much a requirement, following the praise and expectations they got from GTS in that regard. If you paid for those 130 cars, you would end up with a game with a similar amount of cars as Forza Motorsport (base game only), except Forza somehow would still have a better car list overall.

With this new DLC, the main complaint is that this should have been in the game from the start, or atleast something similar to it. Instead, we bought the game with a pretty bad offline portion, that barely improved with updates, only to get shafted with a paid solution that fixes many of the criticism the base game has.
 
Maybe this DLC will surprise me and will be a fantastically well integrated piece of content justifying it as a standalone paid DLC.

But the fact that their selling points are;

Qualifying (which any racing game should have at launch, and what PD already implemented in previous games)
Sophy AI (when they spent three and a half years spruiking it without ever realising its potential)
5 million credits (which noone needs and seems to be here to justify whatever price they put on the DLC)
Endurance racing (which they were doing with mid race saves 15 years ago)

It fills me with little confidence that it's anything more than a gouge.
 
You are not wrong, but the value of such "free content" has to be contextualized. If PD gives away for free content that nobody wants, is it really free?
Regardless, there are still developers (people) who created it and put their time/talent into it. There are a few aspects of the game that I don't touch and don't like (music rally) but I can't diminish (even indirectly) the work that went into it.
 
I'm thinking of selling my PS4 copy of the game, my PS4 and quitting modern GT for good now.

Are you [*]telling me we have to pay for events and features that should have been in the game from the beginning, AND it's exclusive to PS5 too, keeping in mind even [*]GT1 had practice and qualify, like HOW can they not even have new EVENTS on the PS4?

And before anyone says anything, NO I am not complaining while having HUNDREDS of hours in the game, I was sorta playing it from time to time and waiting for some updates and to see if MAYBE it would get good eventually outside of you having to try and make it fun yourself.

I could have gone with Forza 8 instead (I even played it on my PC when I still had Game Pass) if it wasn't always online which is something that makes me never pay for a game, at least at full price. Since Forza 8 is not available for Xbox One, I would need a Series X to play, and I do mean the [*]X version, I'm not paying for a digital copy of an always online game, and a Series S also wouldn't allow me to play Horizon 1 or 2 since I never bought those digital either. I only got GT7 because it's a physical copy, me and my brother already had a PS4, and the game had a decent price when I got it.

[*] Imagine me being way angrier in these parts, if you know what I mean..
 
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