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No Man's Sky enters the room 😅A studio can’t run for 3, 4, 5 years without putting out a new product and without selling anything.
No Man's Sky enters the room 😅A studio can’t run for 3, 4, 5 years without putting out a new product and without selling anything.
This price is pushing it for sure, if true. However, we need to take into account the fact this is a PS5 only DLC resulting in a much smaller pool of potential buyers. Also worth noting is this is the first DLC this game ever had and arguably many of us -shamefully- are willing to pay whatever the cost for more content. I think 40€ is much more palatable.If true, €50 is catastrophic pricing. I hope this is just a placeholder.
GT7 released once on PS4 and PS5.No Man's Sky enters the room 😅
Just so you're aware, the Spec III update and the paid for DLC Power Pack are two separate things. The Spec III update is coming with new cars and tracks and we expect it to be a free update like every other numbered update before it.IIRC the GT6 expansions gave you cars that you could still use online, they were simply unavailable for use by those who didn't have the DLC. I recall using the Scirocco and Golf R in lobbies. I imagine it will be the same this time around.
TBH.... No hate for my PS4 vets out there.... But this is inevitable.... The system has been kept alive for way longer than I thought TBH and a lot of the features are going to require more and more processing power to handle them... I know a PS5 aint easy to buy... So its kinda just a hard place to be at if you are a PS4 owner.For sure you always can discuss about dlcs and its costs, missing features and whatever.
But honestly I don’t geht this „why not on ps4 anymore“ requests. This console is now 12 years old… at some point there is an end. All this Sophy stuff won’t work there. The console is not powerful enough anymore. Name one console in history that was supported for such a long time, please.
A ps5 ain’t easy to buy? It’s available without any issues since years. During its first year, sure there was a lot of trouble getting one.TBH.... No hate for my PS4 vets out there.... But this is inevitable.... The system has been kept alive for way longer than I thought TBH and a lot of the features are going to require more and more processing power to handle them... I know a PS5 aint easy to buy... So its kinda just a hard place to be at if you are a PS4 owner.
November 28, 2019 was when that DLC Came out and the last Content update was July 7, 2021 for GT Sport. Keep in mind, at this point the updates for this game were coming at almost a few months apart. Before that, It was November of 2020 when we had some sort of Content added to the game. Most updates after that DLC drop were QOL updates.How close was the Lewis Hamilton DLC to the end of regular GT Sport updates?
Obviously this will not be the end end as we have the Chinese cars to come, but am wondering if this and Spec III could maybe be the final flourish of GT7's regular support.
I agree with you... I'm just sympathetic to how hard it is to be able to afford a new system... but you make a good counterargument that I can't disagree with.A ps5 ain’t easy to buy? It’s available without any issues since years. During its first year, sure there was a lot of trouble getting one.
I also get it and have understanding that not everyone can purchase one but on how many topics do we want to bring this argument?
Paint Pack: $1.99 (100Gran Turismo 5:
Racing year pack: $2.99 (suits and helmets)
Paint Pack: $1.99 (100 colors)
Course pack: $4.99 (SPA, Kart Space)
Speed test pack: $3.99: (SS Route X)
Twing Ring Motegi pack: $5
Racing car pack: $7.99 (15 cars)
Car pack 2: $3.99 (5 cars)
Car pack 3: $5.99 (6 cars)
$37usd the whole thing.
Maybe $20 or $30 for GT7 DLC is not bad at all.
It’s a shame that we don’t see price drops as on the generations before… but that’s because of a ****ed up economy, capitalism that increases more and more, probably a lack of competition…I agree with you... I'm just sympathetic to how hard it is to be able to afford a new system... but you make a good counterargument that I can't disagree with.
It was a Subaru. I had to use glasses. But the front headlight seems very similar to the Galant.No idea where you are seeing this.
seems to be the real reason to me tbh, people are going to be pissed off about being cut off nonetheless, but by making it sophy-only they make it all totally optional and do not strip anyone from the normal content pipeline (tracks and cars), so the overall gameplay parity is still there.2. The only way to add curated Sophy races and escape PS4 feature parity.
I'm 100% aligned with this, and personally expecting it to cost $39.99 USD (which I'm happy to pay Sony and PD for their continued investment in improving and supporting GT7).I'm going to make my prediction from a "realist" position. Meaning, not overly optimistic or pessimistic. This is based on what we can make educated guesses on so far. Hopefully it's better, but don't be surprised if it's not.
- The Power Pack DLC could cost anywhere from $20 to $50. Credits do not cost them anything to offer. It's a couple 1s and 0s in a digital note tied to your save file. It's more of a perception thing. A "Value Add". Removing the credits from the DLC does not make it any cheaper for them to produce.
- The Power Pack DLC could be intended for late game, high level/experienced players. Meaning, it may unlock races gradually or the whole feature may not unlock til level 50. They could argue $50+ for the base game gets you all of that base content and this is intended to be just an expansion pack for players who want an additional challenge but is not required content.
- These are likely going to be similar to Missions; Some will have specific cars. Some will have a certain type of car. I would hope, but not expect, that there are some events that are just PP based and let you use any car within a theme.
- I would not expect new, unique cars as gifts. My assumption is they are just pre-modified cars. Not special "Racing Modifications", but base cars that already have all the bodywork/accessories/tuned parts on it.
- The events might not reward any money. I haven't seen a shot with prize money. The reward could just be the gift car at the end
I can speak only for myself.... Its tough when salaries dont meet the SOL prices nowadays.... some people really cant put away 50$ for purchasing a new console, those 50$ can be used for food or gas.... It really just not a good time to buy, but regardless... Not sure this is the thread to put this on here so I apologize ahead of time. Even used PS5s are expensive, I keep seeing older PS5 models still hovering around 300$ - 350$ and even for me, thats alot of money for a used Console...It’s a shame that we don’t see price drops as on the generations before… but that’s because of a ****ed up economy, capitalism that increases more and more, probably a lack of competition…
But also another question and I don’t want to get too personal but it’s a general question for all people with „why no ps4 support anymore“. How did the personal situation decreased so dramatical that a purchase of a ps4 back then was possible and now it’s not possible anymore to safe up the money for a ps5 purchase?
Probably I’m getting something totally wrong and I don’t want to offend anyone but I absolutely don’t get the complains about it anymore if something comes out as a current gen only release.
There's also a good portion of us who bought a PS4 after GT7 came out and subsequently the PS5 as well, just to play GT7, so we don't really fall under this "back then you bought a current gen console why can't you now".But also another question and I don’t want to get too personal but it’s a general question for all people with „why no ps4 support anymore“. How did the personal situation decreased so dramatical that a purchase of a ps4 back then was possible and now it’s not possible anymore to safe up the money for a ps5 purchase?
Oh the irony.Fhew.. Just read through 7 pages since last night. You guys talk too much.
A few things:
Part 1 - In reference to continued debate on the value and cost of the Power Pack DLC:
For those who are saying the 50 races and Sophy AI 3.0 etc is not worth $40 or even $20 to them: Let's pretend this happened a different way:
How do you feel reading that? What would you pay for that Spec 3 update? $20? $30? $40+? What if you liked 6 of the cars in the update? What if you only liked two of the cars but it's two that you've be DYING to have in the game? What if you only liked 1 of the new tracks but it was one of your favorites ever? What if you bought the DLC, but your friend didn't, and now you can't play together with whatever car or track combination?
Now imagine that's what you're actually paying for.. It just isn't being presented as such by Sony.
Hopefully it helps you understand what you personally value and also how it's not as simple as it seems to offer additional content.
Part 2 - In reference to a lot of people saying that qualifying, endurance etc should be in from launch but it wasn't so it's "half-baked" which I think implies that they were going to add that eventually (fully baked) but didn't have time or money or whatever:
I imagine the reality is more like, they felt they had two different audiences:
- One group who liked Sport mode/online racing in GT Sport. In their eyes, the "Hardcore". These are the people who want challenging racing. They are going to yell about other players crashing into them, complain about almost everything, and continue to play for the most part. They say offline AI is dumb and a waste of time in basically every game because they don't get the same "high" as competing against another real human being.
- On the other end, you had the "Casual" players who preferred playing offline/solo and just wanted to pop in and out of the game, do quick/short races, move through a curated "experience" (Cafe), and likely had a lower skill level. They don't want to practice. They don't want to qualify. They want to get credits and collect cars.
Where would they get this idea? Because there are likely millions of players who do fit into the casual category and maybe 100,000 or less that that fall into the "Hardcore" group. So I don't think they had any intention of adding Qualifying or 24 Hr Endurance races to single player GT7. They probably didn't think anyone really cared except like a tiny 0.5% of players. And then some story would pop up in the news about a person dying in an internet cafe from health/food/thirst reasons, while ignoring their baby, while trying to complete the 24 Hr race and then bring stupid bad press.
The reality, which I don't think they had enough data to see based on GT Sport being primarily E-Sports focused, is that there is a large group of people who fall into the middle ground, and probably where I'd attach myself. I played a lot of GT Sport online because that's what there was to do and it was a novel experience. I've only touched it like 5 times in GT7 since release. But I believe there's a segment of people who want all of those "Hardcore" features but not online. They want more than a quick 3 lap easy race. They want a challenge, but not from some person whos going to throw a temper tantrum and then torpedo their car in the next corner for accidentally touching their bumper. So GT7 came out, they got some feedback, and now they had to go back to the drawing board and make or remake a bunch of features that the game was never designed to do.
I believe GT7 was fully baked in the eyes of PD. They thought it would serve all or most audiences. But a larger portion of the player base than they expected just didn't like the taste. They can't just "BAM!" and Emeril Lagasse it-- sprinkle a little salt on and everyone is happy. They have to go in and change ingredients and almost start over. And we have to wait for that time (years) in the oven. And meanwhile, Polyphony is continually paying crazy rent costs or whatever on a kitchen in the heart of a very expensive city to house that oven and dozens or hundreds of chefs who get paid a lot to live in and around that expensive city.
Nothing is free.
Part 3 - In reference to what the Power Pack is going to be
I'm going to make my prediction from a "realist" position. Meaning, not overly optimistic or pessimistic. This is based on what we can make educated guesses on so far. Hopefully it's better, but don't be surprised if it's not.
K I need to go pick up groceries and cat litter so I have to cut this short cough No time to proof read.
- The Power Pack DLC could cost anywhere from $20 to $50. Credits do not cost them anything to offer. It's a couple 1s and 0s in a digital note tied to your save file. It's more of a perception thing. A "Value Add". Removing the credits from the DLC does not make it any cheaper for them to produce.
- The Power Pack DLC could be intended for late game, high level/experienced players. Meaning, it may unlock races gradually or the whole feature may not unlock til level 50. They could argue $50+ for the base game gets you all of that base content and this is intended to be just an expansion pack for players who want an additional challenge but is not required content.
- These are likely going to be similar to Missions; Some will have specific cars. Some will have a certain type of car. I would hope, but not expect, that there are some events that are just PP based and let you use any car within a theme.
- I would not expect new, unique cars as gifts. My assumption is they are just pre-modified cars. Not special "Racing Modifications", but base cars that already have all the bodywork/accessories/tuned parts on it.
- The events might not reward any money. I haven't seen a shot with prize money. The reward could just be the gift car at the end.
They could be duplicated pretty easily though, along with a lot of other stuff in that game. I had more chrome chips, than one man could ever use. lolPaint Pack: $1.99 (100colorssingle use paint chips). A proposal that even then seemed very stingy because there was only one paint chip of each color, so you had to think carefully about which vehicle to use that "GT OLD GENERATION 005" blue on, because once used you would not have the option of obtaining it again unless you bought the complete pack again.
It's all a blur 🤣 ..still, dlc buyers could use the cars online, that was my point.Yes. SIE gives PD money to make the game, and PD has other revenue streams from external partnerships.
They're both from GT5. GT6 didn't have paid DLC.
Ya, and the Power Pack brings at least 3 new cars based on the photos (maybe more). Sure, they might only be modified version of cars we already have, but that's nothing nothing new to the series and we've always counted them as additional cars.Just so you're aware, the Spec III update and the paid for DLC Power Pack are two separate things. The Spec II update is coming with new cars and tracks and we expect it to be a free update like every other numbered update before it.
Ya, and that is a significant boost for those who care to have it. That's all I'm saying.The Power Pack is introducing a new game mode with more realistic race events with full race weekends. We don't yet know how much that will cost and what the full details of what it will include are, but we do know it is separate from the Spec III update.
fine. I enjoyed it all the way back to Gran Turismo on the PS1.While this is a legitimate complaint, what about those who'd complain about racing against braindead AI, or even if chase the rabbit format isn't used, that the game is too easy to win with qualifying present, or that if there's rubberbanding, then the races are rigged?
Many people here complain about the GT's list of events, like always starting with Sunday Cup, or them never changing the roster like always giving the same Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup, Drivetrain Challenge, etc. all over again from GT1 to the latest GT. I wish that both aspects of previous GT and GT7's events are kept where there are different level in an events, like Drivetrain Challenges with more powerful cars, rather than just using it as one of the starter events.
It's about adding these events to the game but dunno if people may just forget Sophy or think that Sophy is still terrible.
What'd you/people think/feel about racing against the GT7's beginning AI with qualifying and grid start?
How to properly evaluate about what's actually being worked on or not?
Qualifying against braindead AI.
Source? If it's that faked PS Blog page again, I swear to almighty Xenu...It seems that price will be 50 dollars in USA