Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[eran0004]

While that is true, I think the fact they’re charging for Sophy 3.0 and some races is what’s got people frustrating and saying maybe fix this and that first.

But why? Why is that upsetting?

 

[Famine]

PS4 support ends Spring 2026

Yeah, not exactly.

As reported, spring 2026 is when new games submitted for PS4 will no longer be certified to support certain PSN features. It's only the start of the end ("sunset", ugh), not a total support termination.

 

[Seikenfreak]

But why? Why is that upsetting?

Simply because people are frustrated when changes or updates to the game are not what they personally want or value.

Look at any update thread and it's plain to see. Myself included.

If they released a $20 DLC of all updated GT3 cars, I'd be pretty frustrated and annoyed. Because for one, it feels like there are 6 other games that focus on that style of racing and typically excel in driving or sim dynamics etc. Second, I find those cars boring. But a ton of people would be absolutely over the moon and say this is what GT7 should be and that it's finally moving in the right direction. And I can't argue that it would sell and this is a business first and foremost.

Pick and choose any element of Gran Turismo and it applies for someone. Everyone here wants the game to be the best it can be, but it can't be in all aspects. PD doesn't develop in a hyperbolic time chamber and with infinite money 🤷‍♂️

So at some point, a user or consumer hopefully realizes it's kinda pointless to get so worked up about it over and over again for years and years and then a decade and so forth.

 

[bduddy]

Hmm. Edit for #20. #16, #13, #5 and #3 aren’t on the timing screen. Those would make 20 cars(#19 looks to be in 15th). If #0 is another car and the User is #24, look like 24 or more cars at least for the Nurb.
View attachment 1492158

The 0 and 24 are both highlighted (as the player car) and the same color, which makes me think it's a bug. Right now I'm expecting 19 AIs and anything more is a pleasant surprise.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Yeah, not exactly.

As reported, spring 2026 is when new games submitted for PS4 will no longer be certified to support certain PSN features. It's only the start of the end ("sunset", ugh), not a total support termination.

Sure, but it's effectively the same thing. Let's not sugar coat it.

PS4 doesn't have Sophy support, PS4 isn't getting the DLC. The PS4 version is in the Gran Turismo "friend zone". People need to stop hanging onto hope.

 

[Famine]

Sure, but it's effectively the same thing.

It most assuredly is not.

Existing games will be entirely unaffected by this stage of the process, and indeed new PS4 titles will continue to be submitted. That's pretty difficult if support is effectively ended...

This only affects access to certain PSN features - reported as being Activity Feed Web API, Title Small Storage (TSS), Title User Storage (TUS), Users and Profiles, Word Filters, and Shared Media Web API - for new PS4 titles.

It's going to be a long, long old time before we can say PS4 support is ending, actually or effectively. It's misleading to say that spring 2026 is that point.

 

[hawkeyez]

But why? Why is that upsetting?

I feel like I will never be able to explain it to you but I’ll try.

PD releases some paid DLC, you look at it and wonder why you should pay more money for things that should have been in the game in the first place.

Most of the negative comments I read about the game on release were how the single player is severely lacking content and that the AI is absolute trash. I never complained on social media about it but I did agree with these comments or reviews.

And now here we are being asked to pay for what was missing in the first place.

So it is upsetting to people who purchased the game, finished the single player events and championships in a few weeks… against pretty bad AI, spending the rest of their time re-racing events to grind credits to collect cars, to race yet again in those same events.

 

[05XR8]

The 0 and 24 are both highlighted (as the player car) and the same color, which makes me think it's a bug. Right now I'm expecting 19 AIs and anything more is a pleasant surprise.

It’s still mathing. There are 16 cars on the timing screen. If I add the #20(17th), #16(18th), #13(19th), #5(20th) and #3(21st). Hope I’m doing my addition right. If it’s a bug, or just a display discrepancy it’s throwing the math off, I guess.

 

[GT_Tuga]

Sorry for the slightly awkward offtopic (and extremely long) post you're about to read, but there's a few things I have to say.
Right... so, I'm back here again, but this time with a totally different mindset compared to how I was a couple of days ago.
Just in case anyone's wondering what I mean, feel free to check out my previous post right here (WARNING: it's bad... I mean REALLY bad lol)

Well, to my defense, I must say I was already having a pretty rough day at work by the time I found out about this DLC, which acted as the "icing on the cake" to me... being a PS4 player, the moment I realized it's going to be a PS5-exclusive thing i just lost it, and allowed anger and frustration to take the best of me, culminating in that post.
This doesn't normally happen to me, I always try to not get ahead of myself and not take rushed-out conclusions and what not but... this time it was different, I guess I was under the "perfect storm" here and just over-reacted.
I almost feel embarrassed by this...

Anyway, after reading and thinking about some of you guy's arguments on this thread, and with all the bad feelings out of the way, now I can see things differently and realized my previous post just doesn't reflect my current opinion on this subject anymore.
So, I'd like to apologize you guys for the bad choice of words, and if I may, allow me to "reset" my opinion on this:

First and foremost, this looks like a very nice DLC overall, with a pretty good number of races being added, and being endurance races makes it even more special which is something most of us have been waiting/hoping to see for ages on this game.

At this point, information is still a little scarce so there's not a whole lot we can safely conclude or expect from this DLC, but this "qualifying" thing seems to be very interesting, it certainly brings a breath of fresh air into the game to not have to do things the same old way.

As I am a PS4 player, I can't really talk much about Sophy as I've never tried it before, but I guess it's always great news to see it being update and improved. With Sony/PD continuously investing on it, I'm sure the next installment in the series will use it as the "standard" AI to race against.

I'm not gonna lie, knowing this DLC is not coming to PS4 is still a little hard to swallow... like I said on my previous post, PD could simply release this DLC without Sophy and it would pretty much work on PS4, if they wanted to do it I'd happily pay for it for a reasonable price (although there's no such thing as a "reasonable price" these days, even for the most basic essential things, let alone for a game's DLC) but I understand this is not even a matter of hardware limitations anymore, they simply don't want to continue investing and releasing content for a 12-year-old console when they already have a more powerful console on the market for 5 years now, can't really blame them for that.
Previously I blamed PD for "not showing gratitude" regarding PS4 players, but that's just not true because let's face it: I'm sitting on top of nearly 3 years worth of free content (cars, tracks and events) which has been steadily released on a nearly monthly basis, and probably will continue that way for some time (probably not for long but at this point I'll take whatever they want to give me).
Turns out I'm the one not showing enough gratitude in the first place...

Some people even argue this game shouldn't even exist for PS4 at all, and I have to say, after playing this game for nearly 2 years I'm truly surprised with how smooth it runs and how nice it looks, PD as certainly did a great job taking the best out of the PS4 to make GT7 run this good.

As pointed out by @Fezzik a few posts after mine, my statement of "the vast majority of the GT7 player base is made of PS4 players" is also wrong, for some reason I had a different perception of things on that subject, so thanks for clarifying that up for me Fezzik!

This part is just not accurate. Even at launch the split between PS5 and PS4 sales was about 2:1 in favour of the newer system (not just for GT but for pretty much all crossgen). PS4 was never the majority.

Since then the split has definitely increased in favour of the PS5. There are sales analysis published every month for the PS4 - GT7 never appears in the top 20 sellers. People aren’t buying it anymore on that.

The vast majority of the player-base is on PS5 and Playstation are winding down support for the PS4. It’s sad for the owners of that system but this decision makes complete sense from a business POV.

Some of you might be wondering: why haven't you bought a PS5 already?! Firstly, my PS4 is only 6 years old (if that...) bought it used from a work colleague, pretty good deal actually, and I still have quite a few games I haven't played on it yet, and on top of that, believe it or not I still go back to my PS3 from time to time, to play some older games that I've missed back in the day.
So, buying a PS5 is not something I'm willing to do at this point, due to a variety of reasons like the pricing, even the used ones are quite pricey, and let's not get started with the PS5 Pro (800 euros for a new one?! C'mon Sony, what are you smoking?).
Here in Portugal, the national minimum wage is just above 900 euros... tell me how that's not a steep price for a console?
Sure the technology and the quality is there, but this is getting to a point where I think it'll make much more sense to use that money to buy a decent PC that allows me to play games as well as doing a lot of other things... if only Gran Turismo gets released on PC someday (doubt it though).
And honestly, I just don't feel the need to buy one... I'm still very satisfied with my PS3 and PS4, for the most part I haven't seen a single game that'll make me go out and say "that's it, I'm buying a PS5"... most of them are just remakes/remasters from older generations so why spend that much money.
Anyway, I don't want to start World War III here because of my personal decision to not buy a PS5, I'll be just fine without it.

 

[Voodoovaj]

It most assuredly is not.

As far as this game is concerned, it is. Is it STRICTLY over, no, but the writing was on the wall when the PS5 version got it's first taste of Sophy. Ps4 has missing out on Sophy 2.0, which has been a significant addition for many of us. Now, the PS4 people are missing out on the Power Pack. How much should the PS4 miss out on before we accept that it will be supported less and less?

If the power pack does indeed end up being priced in the 30-50 Euro range, that's going to signal more than you think. If it's 10 Euro or something, then it's not a significant shift. I'm betting on the former rather than the latter.

 

[DS13_supergt]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races...

 

[Famine]

As far as this game is concerned, it is.

Again, no.

This reported date affects legacy PSN features for newly submitted PS4 games. It does not affect existing titles whatsoever.

If and when PD ends support for PS4 GT7, we will report on it. Until then, stating that "PS4 support ends Spring 2026" is incorrect and gives people a very wrong idea.

I have already pointed out that this is misleading to you. Do not repeat it or continue to make this out as more than it is.

We've had enough trouble countering misinformation with this fake $50 screenshot, don't you think?

 

[AmyUD06]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races... View attachment 1492237

LOL.

 

[GingerBredMan]

But why? Why is that upsetting?

Maybe look at this from a different perspective:

If PD released 2 versions of GT7, one as-is, and one that's $20 extra that had all of the Power Pack features, PD would be a laughingstock. No racing game is charging you for offline quali & practice sessions. And if Sophy 2.0 has it's issues, they're banking ALOT on putting 3.0 behind a paywall. And then what happens with 4.0, 5.0 etc etc...

People have strong feelings about paid content, but paying for features is incredibly worse.

 

[Famine]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races... View attachment 1492237

I'd be unsurprised to learn that at least some of the events might have pre-set cars, similar to Missions.

And if Sophy 2.0 has it's issues, they're banking ALOT on putting 3.0 behind a paywall.

The question (along with so, so many others) remains though: what exactly is "3.0" about it?

Sophy 1.0 was limited to a specific mode. Sophy 2.0 has much more freedom in track and car choices (expanding with most updates) and can be selected instead of the standard AI. What's left for 3.0?

I probably mentioned this up-thread somewhere, but "Sophy 2.0 but faster" and "no emojis" isn't really whole-version worthy (and the emojis are not at Sony AI's end anyway) in my head; the only things that spring to mind are the ability to plan strategy (which would be of considerable value in the endurance races) and B-Spec. Though we have of course seen a B-Spec demo, and it was a year ago (or will be by the time the Power Pack arrives), I still think that this is less likely - but it could be a USP for the DLC.


We probably won't have to wait all that long for answers though, as it's only two and a half weeks to go. There'll likely be some more info and video on it in the intervening. Maybe we'll get a real price sometime soon too...

 

[Voodoovaj]

I'm most intrigued by what the official image says.

50 new events is a big deal, especially if they are all Sophy 3.0 (I hope)

16 "gifts" which implies 16 prize cars, and given that we have seen three modded cars, it bodes well for more.

I wonder what collector level 70 gets you 🤔

 

[tonidavid5]

Maybe look at this from a different perspective:

If PD released 2 versions of GT7, one as-is, and one that's $20 extra that had all of the Power Pack features, PD would be a laughingstock. No racing game is charging you for offline quali & practice sessions. And if Sophy 2.0 has it's issues, they're banking ALOT on putting 3.0 behind a paywall. And then what happens with 4.0, 5.0 etc etc...

People have strong feelings about paid content, but paying for features is incredibly worse.

First and foremost, each and everyone is entitled to a different opinion and point of view. In the end, we, as costumers hold the end of the bargain, either by buying a product or by not buying it, even not buying anything else from that provider in the future if you feel it has let you down or ripped you off.

But as hard as I'm trying to understand your logic, I'm unable to follow it.
I don't get why you think certain features are set in stone as "can't do" in a payed-for DLC. If it's not worth to you, that's fine, just don't buy it.

I pay for features every time I pay for a game and/or a DLC, it's just a question of thinking whether it's worth to me or not, as the player/customer.
In the end, it's more than likely than we'll pay for Sophie 4.0 o 5.0 ... It'll just be called GT8.

 

[suomi1]

I'm most intrigued by what the official image says.
View attachment 1492255

50 new events is a big deal, especially if they are all Sophy 3.0 (I hope)

16 "gifts" which implies 16 prize cars, and given that we have seen three modded cars, it bodes well for more.

I wonder what collector level 70 gets you 🤔

16 stars, stars.. For a total of 74 already collected.

Edit : Oh yes, gifts ideed. My eyes were elsewhere on the screenshot.

 

[jonoholland29]

I'm most intrigued by what the official image says.
View attachment 1492255

50 new events is a big deal, especially if they are all Sophy 3.0 (I hope)

16 "gifts" which implies 16 prize cars, and given that we have seen three modded cars, it bodes well for more.

I wonder what collector level 70 gets you 🤔

Lv 70 better give me that damn Porsche invite

 

[Sir Crashalot]

I watched a video of a German YouTuber today and he was talking about the DLC and he had pretty good arguments for a rather high price.
2 million credits cost $/€ 20 and he was like "Why would they give you 5 million credits and the DLC for a lower price then what you would pay if you just buy the credits?" And yeah, that makes sense somehow.

 

[DS13_supergt]

I'd be unsurprised to learn that at least some of the events might have pre-set cars, similar to Missions.

Yh, hopefully not all of them.

 

[Famine]

I watched a video of a German YouTuber today and he was talking about the DLC and he had pretty good arguments for a rather high price.
2 million credits cost $/€ 20 and he was like "Why would they give you 5 million credits and the DLC for a lower price then what you would pay if you just buy the credits?" And yeah, that makes sense somehow.

I noted earlier in the thread and the article that if 5m was offered, the scaled price would be $40.

They're also offering free credits on some game versions now, so one can assume that part of the 5m will be "free".

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races... View attachment 1492237

Welp, that ruins the pack. I don't want racing where I'm confined to one car, then it's just more glorified driving missions.

 

[mynameis66]

Im intrigued as to wether we have to use cars provided,for some races like challenges,or if we can use our garage cars for others.
We need more info.😄
Cant wait for the next few weeks teasing us some game info.
Also wondering why the legends location has disappeared from the map,might be an error or maybe the Heggarty partnership had finished.Who knows.

 

[bliprunner]

Sophy 1.0 was limited to a specific mode. Sophy 2.0 has much more freedom in track and car choices (expanding with most updates) and can be selected instead of the standard AI. What's left for 3.0?

I'm hoping for:

1. Able to drive in the rain
2. Able to use more than one tyre compound
3. Better lines and kerb use where it is currently weak (i.e. Catalunya)
4. Less processional in identical cars against other Sophy drivers

Plus hopefully PD will not apply any rubber banding to Sophy 3.0.

 

[benjoi84]

Only on the internet can you find people outraged by the price of something that isn't even known yet.

 

[juanffy18]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races... View attachment 1492237

Oh no please no basically missions

 

[pabloprp69]

I'm hoping for:

1. Able to drive in the rain
2. Able to use more than one tyre compound
3. Better lines and kerb use where it is currently weak (i.e. Catalunya)
4. Less processional in identical cars against other Sophy drivers

Plus hopefully PD will not apply any rubber banding to Sophy 3.0.

Plus all tracks and layouts support!??!

 

[05XR8]

(this might have been already pointed out)
I'm afraid you cannot choose the car to use in the power pack races... View attachment 1492237

Welp, that ruins the pack. I don't want racing where I'm confined to one car, then it's just more glorified driving missions.

Oh no please no basically missions

Just think for two seconds. I mentioned earlier, let’s say if someone new to the series through to a casual player, on December 4 just buys a PS5 Pro, GT7 and the Power Pack. They’re not going to be able to use the PP content if they have to jump through the hours to get to Level 38+.
By booting up the game and being able to use the PP straightaway, it makes sense to assign players the cars to use for the events. Yes, I’m all for options for those of us that still play and those that have moved on, but would like to jump in GT7 again. If the option is not there to use our garage cars with preferred livery with locked performance settings, it kind of sucks, but is what it is.

What if someone been playing the game for over a year and has missed buying some of the LCD cars required for PP events? That’d be a waste of money. We’ll see how it works. If it means we can’t use garage cars, it’s most likely for the benefit of everyone to have access to experience the events.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Sophy 1.0 was limited to a specific mode. Sophy 2.0 has much more freedom in track and car choices (expanding with most updates) and can be selected instead of the standard AI. What's left for 3.0?

I probably mentioned this up-thread somewhere, but "Sophy 2.0 but faster" and "no emojis" isn't really whole-version worthy

Given that it's a PS5 exclusive, the events are likely all Sophy. Also, if base Sophy stepped up the pace, like Sophy with boost, I think that's a big move.

The custom race people are clamoring for a a version of Sophy that behaves like 2.0, but loses the unrealistic boost when there's a huge gap.

I just had a 30 lap race at Interlagos (using the Fiat 500 Abarth). Lap time were in the low 1:48's After the pitstops, when all was said and done, I was 8 seconds ahead...Sophy went 7 seconds per lap faster. I finished 16th because I picked up a last lap shortcut penalty and the field flew past me. I would say that removing this boost feature would be a major upgrade

I'm hoping for:

1. Able to drive in the rain
2. Able to use more than one tyre compound
3. Better lines and kerb use where it is currently weak (i.e. Catalunya)
4. Less processional in identical cars against other Sophy drivers

Plus hopefully PD will not apply any rubber banding to Sophy 3.0.

I don't think you mean that. People naturally rubber band, some laps are faster than others. The reason Sophy is fun for the early laps is because of it's (less noticeable) rubber banding.

I think what you mean is the excessive/unrealistic rubber banding that I mentioned above.