Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

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Should be a hefty download size.
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I think the system needs at least 5 GB of free space to run...
 
That doesn't explain why it's upsetting that the dlc is not free.
Eh, I guess that's just entitlement? They'd have more of an argument if something like practice or qualifying was being added as a feature across the whole game in a paid DLC a month or 6 months after the game came out.

Maybe they'll add practice and qualifying to the whole game later (if it isn't already as part of the Spec 3 update that they just didn't specifically feel the need to mention.) Which people would then also complain why did they "pay for it" before. All comes down to the perspective a person chooses to have. I don't feel like I'm paying for Practice or Qualifying because I don't really care that much about it and I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme of GT7 as it is. If a month from now they say "Oh, now it's available to everyone!", I'm not going to be upset. In my mind, I am paying for the DLC to support PD, for all of the time/money they've spent on prior and currently releasing content, and in return I'm getting new events/missions and that's about it. If they add these 50 events in next months free patch, then I'll be annoyed. I don't expect Sophy 3.0 to be some ground breaking change. It's already very good. This'll probably just make it work better for tire/fuel/pitstop management and better rain behavior (I honestly didn't realize it didn't already work with rain.)

I'm also voting with my dollars to say that, hey, I am interested in events that are based around real racing series, so that in the future, maybe they'll have less "Jimny Cup" or "Vision GT" events and more "Japanese Group A", "DTM", "AE86 N2", "BTCC", "Vintage Trans-Am", '90s GT, mid 2000s "GT1/GT2", "Can-Am" etc, down to SCCA/NASA club level (national amateur racing organizations here in the US) "Showroom Stock", "Touring 1/2/3/4", "Unlimited" events. And in turn, they would add more cars that fit into those categories. But also I love classic Gran Turismo so I'd love for them to make a DLC or keep adding more broad events based around Station Wagons, 4 door sport sedans, kei cars, RR, MR, FR, 70s/80s/90s etc events.

Practice/Qualifying is a feature that was probably more difficult to add than people think (cause it always is) and it's being added in a limited capacity that's maybe only necessary or applicable to racing against Sophy in an endurance event, so why bother adding it elsewhere. Or the feature was difficult enough to add that we're lucky they decided to add it at all in this limited capacity.

If they decided to put a "Donate" button in the game, where the only thing you get in return is knowing you're supporting Polyphony's efforts directly (lets just say it bypassed Sony for the sake of the argument), I would be happy to toss in $50 or $100. Because I've had way more than $100 worth of value (physical copy at launch for $70 or whatever and then later a digital copy for $30) from GT7 since launch and I want to support them and I know and understand that producing content for the game costs money.

Nothing is free. To me this is a very obvious and basic concept that for some reason I keep writing lengthy posts trying to convey. It feels like a silly waste of time.

The only real argument I can stand behind 95% of the time, and the reason this forum is almost non-stop chaotic debate, is that Sony/Polyphony are not transparent enough. If they'd simply explain the reasoning for their choices, then we could have more grounded and less speculative discussion. That other 5% is kind of understanding why they do it. Because you see with some developers, when they do explain the thought process behind a decision or let the player base have input prior to a games release, that turns into it's own insanity from likely this same segment of people who think everything should be free.
 
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i wanna be clear, this is a supposition, i clearly don't know since i don't work at pd 😂 , but i think that screenshot confirm the existence of races with pre-set cars.
It could work like time trials where you could use your garage cars as long as they egilable. Or have the option to rent, i dont think the roadgoing nsx will be eligable for super gt championchip.

But time will tell, we proably get more details soon with less than 3 weeks away.
And yes i am beyond hyped for this.
 
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How many people will buy power pack thinking 2 new tracks and 8 cars are part of that.
PD has made it very clear so far what is premium DLC and what is not - Every update trailer says it is a free update.

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Anybody who makes that mistake needs to have a good look in the mirror and question their ability to understand basic language.
 
Ok just talked to a good friend and he can help me get a ps5 with my limited budget. I will not have to be without....
At what price? I have been looking for a second hand and I found 2 in my region still at 350 dollars. That's too much for 2nd use. New ones still cost as much as when they were released at 650 dollars. I can't convince myself, let alone my wife, to acquire a PS5 plus the price of the DLC to enjoy a GT feature that was standard in GT4. There's no way Polyphony could not implement this DLC - without Sophy 3.0 - in the PS4 version. This is aggressive marketing strategy.
 
Personally, if someone thinks that then they need to improve their observational and comprehension skills.
Anybody who makes that mistake needs to have a good look in the mirror and question their ability to understand basic language.
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As PlayStation Support's unofficial support site, we will be fielding so many angry questions on this.
 
Just to carry over my enthusiasm from the other thread, because I'm typically one of the "realist"/bummer people around here:

This is awesome. Exactly the sort've stuff I've been imagining for a theoretical GT8. More races based in reality.

I'm also very excited to see them finally trying a paid DLC. I hope this finally gives them some real data and feedback on what people are willing to spend money on and how much. I am more than happy to pay for more content if the ratio to $$$ feels fair. I think a $20 price tag on this would be good. Its also hard to mentally separate the car/track content that's part of the patch from the "Power Pack" DLC. So maybe $20 is an okay price. At the same time I absolutely love this series, they've made it this far without charging for content, and I really want to support Polyphony and hopefully they reciprocate that with a faster content release pace than we've had. So I'd be okay paying almost any amount which isn't the reality for casual fans. I'm essentially a "Whale" for Gran Turismo but I'm not spending a dime on stupid in-game currency.

Now see, even though this isn't directly part of the Spec 3 patch, its what they've been working on alongside that content as well.. So now when I say THIS feels like a Spec 3 update and it previously didn't.. This is what I meant. Girthy content and features beyond a couple cars and tracks.

Super excited. Happy the community has something to be excited about together. Wooooo I can't wait!
This was standard in GT4. Can't believe people are so excited about paying for standard features. They left them intentionally from the basic game and now play hero for offering it behind pay walls. Plus one must upgrade to PS5, for no clear reason other than Sophy 3.0, because this DLC is perfectly playable on PS4 if you leave Sophy out of the equation.

The investment for me to enjoy qualifying and practicing sessions with endurance racing in GT7 would be between €350 and €600 depending I get a second hand PS5 or a new one. That's not worth it. I bought my second hand PS4 for €100, 5 games included. People have gone absolutely mad what they are willing to spend on recreational gaming.

Enjoy the expansion nonetheless, don't let my negative attitude get in the way of it by all means. ☺️
 
I don’t know if the confusion is going to be that great, you’ll have to update the title as soon as you try to load it, then you either go to the shop, click one of the menu screen cards or follow an in game news/promo.

I think it’s a real edge case someone would blindly buy the DLC before opening the game up. Especially as anyone that’s had the game for a reasonable time would not have been exposed to paid DLC through out its life.

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This was standard in GT4. Can't believe people are so excited about paying for standard features. They left them intentionally from the basic game and now play hero for offering it behind pay walls. Plus one must upgrade to PS5, for no clear reason other than Sophy 3.0, because this DLC is perfectly playable on PS4 if you leave Sophy out of the equation.

The investment for me to enjoy qualifying and practicing sessions with endurance racing in GT7 would be between €350 and €600 depending I get a second hand PS5 or a new one. That's not worth it. I bought my second hand PS4 for €100, 5 games included. People have gone absolutely mad what they are willing to spend on recreational gaming.
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Then just wait until GT8. It might have practice and qualifying and endurance events and you can spend $800 for a PS6. Or something tells me you won't want to buy that console either.
 
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It'll be interesting. The Lewis Hamilton TT unlocked the 20million Credit limit to 100 million Cr. Plus, a chance to get over 100million Cr. for $7USD.

Depending on prize cars and Credits payout, maybe total payout is equal to or higher than 100 million Cr. If each race is one million Cr like a mission one hour, that's a potential fifty million Cr. It'll allow a player to buy the 917K and 330.
The initial 5 million Credits makes me wonder if the cars required will have their own separate dealerships available. That amount of credits will get players into one of the more expensive Group C cars.

Let's say $25-$30 USD gets a player a potential 100 million Credits with we know at least over 24 hours play time. It might be worth it for those on the fence.
As someone mentioned earlier, if those prize cars can't be sold, especially if they're a one time gift, that might not be so bad either.

With all these unknowns, it'll be interesting to read everyone's comments when those of us who bought the DLC, start getting through initial play.
 
Eh, I guess that's just entitlement? They'd have more of an argument if something like practice or qualifying was being added as a feature across the whole game in a paid DLC a month or 6 months after the game came out.

Maybe they'll add practice and qualifying to the whole game later (if it isn't already as part of the Spec 3 update that they just didn't specifically feel the need to mention.) Which people would then also complain why did they "pay for it" before. All comes down to the perspective a person chooses to have. I don't feel like I'm paying for Practice or Qualifying because I don't really care that much about it and I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme of GT7 as it is. If a month from now they say "Oh, now it's available to everyone!", I'm not going to be upset. In my mind, I am paying for the DLC to support PD, for all of the time/money they've spent on prior and currently releasing content, and in return I'm getting new events/missions and that's about it. If they add these 50 events in next months free patch, then I'll be annoyed. I don't expect Sophy 3.0 to be some ground breaking change. It's already very good. This'll probably just make it work better for tire/fuel/pitstop management and better rain behavior (I honestly didn't realize it didn't already work with rain.)

I'm also voting with my dollars to say that, hey, I am interested in events that are based around real racing series, so that in the future, maybe they'll have less "Jimny Cup" or "Vision GT" events and more "Japanese Group A", "DTM", "AE86 N2", "BTCC", "Vintage Trans-Am", '90s GT, mid 2000s "GT1/GT2", "Can-Am" etc, down to SCCA/NASA club level (national amateur racing organizations here in the US) "Showroom Stock", "Touring 1/2/3/4", "Unlimited" events. And in turn, they would add more cars that fit into those categories. But also I love classic Gran Turismo so I'd love for them to make a DLC or keep adding more broad events based around Station Wagons, 4 door sport sedans, kei cars, RR, MR, FR, 70s/80s/90s etc events.

Practice/Qualifying is a feature that was probably more difficult to add than people think (cause it always is) and it's being added in a limited capacity that's maybe only necessary or applicable to racing against Sophy in an endurance event, so why bother adding it elsewhere. Or the feature was difficult enough to add that we're lucky they decided to add it at all in this limited capacity.

If they decided to put a "Donate" button in the game, where the only thing you get in return is knowing you're supporting Polyphony's efforts directly (lets just say it bypassed Sony for the sake of the argument), I would be happy to toss in $50 or $100. Because I've had way more than $100 worth of value (physical copy at launch for $70 or whatever and then later a digital copy for $30) from GT7 since launch and I want to support them and I know and understand that producing content for the game costs money.

Nothing is free. To me this is a very obvious and basic concept that for some reason I keep writing lengthy posts trying to convey. It feels like a silly waste of time.

The only real argument I can stand behind 95% of the time, and the reason this forum is almost non-stop chaotic debate, is that Sony/Polyphony are not transparent enough. If they'd simply explain the reasoning for their choices, then we could have more grounded and less speculative discussion. That other 5% is kind of understanding why they do it. Because you see with some developers, when they do explain the thought process behind a decision or let the player base have input prior to a games release, that turns into it's own insanity from likely this same segment of people who think everything should be free.
For me the problem or argument is not that the DLC is not free, but that they only make it available for the PS5 platform while this was just a basic feature in GT4 on PS2 over 15 years ago. Why do I NEED to upgrade my console at a €350-600 cost to enjoy the DLC?

So you are right, the complete lack of transparency by PD about it is very frustrating. If the reason is Sophy 3.0, than just leave that out and offer the DLC to PS4 gamers too. Is it actually that hard?!
 
This was standard in GT4. Can't believe people are so excited about paying for standard features. They left them intentionally from the basic game and now play hero for offering it behind pay walls. Plus one must upgrade to PS5, for no clear reason other than Sophy 3.0, because this DLC is perfectly playable on PS4 if you leave Sophy out of the equation.
This 1000%! I wont buy PS5, just gona wait PS6 and GT8. GT7 on PS4 is good deal for me from day one.
 
while this was just a basic feature in GT4 on PS2 over 15 years ago
26 years ago
Why do I NEED to upgrade my console at a €350-600 cost to enjoy the DLC?
Maybe because your console is 12 years old ?

Remember, you also NEED to upgrade to enjoy Sophy. And PSVR2.

About the DLC, we don't know every detail yet. Same for update 1.64. Let's wait and see. Anyway we cannot reach PD to tell them what they are doing right or wrong, and it's been going like this for years.
 
For me the problem or argument is not that the DLC is not free, but that they only make it available for the PS5 platform while this was just a basic feature in GT4 on PS2 over 15 years ago. Why do I NEED to upgrade my console at a €350-600 cost to enjoy the DLC?

So you are right, the complete lack of transparency by PD about it is very frustrating. If the reason is Sophy 3.0, than just leave that out and offer the DLC to PS4 gamers too. Is it actually that hard?!

It is if the whole content is based on Sophy 3.0
 
26 years ago

Maybe because your console is 12 years old ?

Remember, you also NEED to upgrade to enjoy Sophy. And PSVR2.

About the DLC, we don't know every detail yet. Same for update 1.64. Let's wait and see. Anyway we cannot reach PD to tell them what they are doing right or wrong, and it's been going like this for years.
26 years already?! Lol I felt that.

I don't need to enjoy Sophy nor PSVR2 but a basic feature of qualifying and race weekends can't be that hard for a PS4 when it was available on PS2 in GT4 TWENTY SIX YEARS AGO.
 
For me the problem or argument is not that the DLC is not free, but that they only make it available for the PS5 platform while this was just a basic feature in GT4 on PS2 over 15 years ago. Why do I NEED to upgrade my console at a €350-600 cost to enjoy the DLC?

So you are right, the complete lack of transparency by PD about it is very frustrating. If the reason is Sophy 3.0, than just leave that out and offer the DLC to PS4 gamers too. Is it actually that hard?!
Because your console doesn't support the AI system that is featured in the DLC. Sophy has been a key feature for GT7 for several years now, that PS4 players miss out on. Without the events, there is no DLC.

If this is of no interest to you, then don't upgrade, but also, don't complain. It's equally unfair to the PS5 owners to be forced to have inferior gameplay just to keep the PS4 owners happy.
 
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I'll take it as a compliment.

All these fanboys screaming "take my money" to PD just to reinvent an old basic feature behind not only a paywall but als an aggressive marketing strategy is beyond belief.

35yrs of gaming, this dinosaur lives on the very edge of gaming society looking from the darkness with a "what has this gaming world become" shaking head approach on the matter.
Free discussion needs all points of view to be read and considered. I may be in a unique position compared with many PS owners and GT7 players because I got the game bundled with the console, so technically it was "free", so I'm in liberty to decide whether the DLC will add more value to the game I'm currently playing and make a purchase decision thereupon sooner, or much later.
 
It is if the whole content is based on Sophy 3.0
Well then they could just leave Sophy out of it 🤷?

Because your console doesn't support the AI system that is featured in the DLC. Sophy has been a key feature for GT7 for several years now, that PS4 players miss out on. Without the events, there is no DLC.

If this is of no interest to you, then don't upgrade, but also, don't complain. It's equally unfair to the PS5 owners to be forced to have inferior gameplay just to keep the PS4 owners happy.
They can just make it PS4 no Sophy and PS5 with Sophy, that is just plain logic.
 
This was standard in GT4. Can't believe people are so excited about paying for standard features. They left them intentionally from the basic game and now play hero for offering it behind pay walls. Plus one must upgrade to PS5, for no clear reason other than Sophy 3.0, because this DLC is perfectly playable on PS4 if you leave Sophy out of the equation.
Any event can indeed be added using regular AI. Thus it depends in, how'd you think of the AI in previous GT? (in case it's given on PS4 with regular AI) Do you think they're ok or passable or that PD can leave them out as they be? (the AI is one of the longstanding complaints like vacuum cleaner car sounds) Be ok if you have qualifying and grid start thus the races have no challenge at all by just breezing through all the AI?
 
It is common to get ridiculed for sharing unpopular opinions. I got used to that.

FYI, I actually can afford it pretty easily. It's about principals and common sense. About saving your money for real life uses. I would have had no remarks whatsoever if PD just would have included the PS4 gamers in this really lovely expansion pack. That is a really low and despicable action to aggressively market the PS5 console.

Not sure what is so laughable at my opinion but you do you.
I mean, I paid for a product, the PS5, and later the Pro, and then later again a used PSVR2.. to use features and have benefits across dozens of games I've played over a few thousand hours probably. No, it doesn't make sense for someone to buy a console and pay a lot of money for one game unless they really enjoy that game. And I am old but I am not naive enough to think everything should still cost the same as it did 30 years ago or that the video game industry or the world works like it used to.

I am not irrational enough to think.. GT2 had racing modifications so that's now standard, no exceptions, across all future GT games. Or other elements that have come and gone from the series over the years like a used car dealer, certain tracks or hundreds of cars that have come and gone. Interior accessories like gauges. GT should come on separate Simulation and Arcade discs because GT2 did. You should be able to put any wheel from any car onto any other car because GT4 did. Or they should have prize cars for every race because a previous game did. They should have a shuffle race. The Hagerty Legends dealership is in GT7 so now it must be in all GT games going forward. Tuning was not in GT Sport. A track creator. There will be a sub section where I can go and watch Top Gear or Best Motoring episodes. Practice and qualifying. You get the idea.

Seems a little crazy when you think about it. Almost as if there is precedence that many of features of games, even Gran Turismo, come and go. And the words "Standard" and "I want" are not the same thing.

Also, I didn't mean to imply you couldn't afford it. Only that you won't buy the PS6 because it'll go against your principles and common sense of every console should be as cheap as the first one that came out. That PlayStation 1 in this case. Oh wait, $300 in 1995 is almost $650 today.

Things evolve. Dinosaur is an apt choice of word lol
 
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