I'm sorry, but those do NOT excuse this potentially bad choice here. Limiting car options for what's supposed to be a mini, challenging career mode hurts the enjoyment of it and kills the replay-ability. Not to mention it's a terrible solution to specific problems they're wanting to solve, a rental car system like in Forza Motorsport would've been a better option. Either that or just not locking these races behind level ups.
I’m not excusing anything. I don’t know how it’ll work. Only trying to guess by PD’s way of thinking. Maybe rental cars is a way, which I pointed to. Also pointing out optional PD designed livery choices for some type of immersion variety:
It’s the PD way. They release something that’s really cool on the surface and then always design choice or decision made that cause an option or detail to disappear. For all the joy they implement in the games, something goes missing and/or not gone the extra mile to completion.
Got it, it's just that your comment when quoting mine made it seem more like a defense than an analysis.
The problem is that PD is doing it more so than they have in the past, or at least it seems that way. Which is lead to why I have more problems with GT7 than even the PS3 games despite it technically being a higher quality product. There's more "catches" to their design choices.
The "if you don't like it don't buy it" stance is fine, but it's also the backbone of corporate greed. Of course without pricing or any details it's hard to judge, but the details that we have so far are typically things that you don't pay extra for.
I had this thought but then thought of several reasons why (pure speculation of course!).
Not being silly with my usual Dad jokes and I’m really not being silly when I type this:
Maybe wanting good (or at least better) AI seems more costly than what people expect like how it's one of the only features that can only be used in PS5 for GT7 and that it's really GPU hungry, with it not even be able to be widely implemented in all the game still. Promised and hinted, but the execution is more demanding than what people'd think (as people also complain about Power Pack can't be played in PS4). Maybe a case of be careful what you wish for.
I guess you've said that you don't like the more motorsport-based career that people here seem to prefer and want GT to become. Seems that Power Pack having you choose those car is about like motorsport-based career where you're given a car of a specific discipline, and that you don't need to save up and buy required one to want to enter certain races, albeit honestly one should choose between different team and the cars related to the race (e.g. between Skyline, Supra, NSX GT500) for those events.
It's a good and bad thing at the same time. But my point in that last post isn't a "it isn't like it used to be", but more so that it seems the games just got riddled with way more flaws than there used to be. Almost as if their quest for detail has lead to other areas to be badly neglected.
Nope. I don't remember if I ever demanded it myself, but no. I personally want a career mode more akin to classic GT combined with things added to the newer games here and there. But still has some more challenging racing.
It could be doing that, which makes sense. For a lot of racing disciplines, you can't pick your car in real life. Though I'm pretty sure you can do that in certain kinds of racing. There's motorsports where you build your own car for the regulations. Also yes, they most definitely should be allowing players to choose cars based on the racing division. I wanted to be able to pick my own JGTC car so I can use my custom liveries while racing.
That doesn't explain why it's upsetting that the dlc is not free.
A problem with that kind of reasoning is that from a customer's perspective anything should have been included in the first place. Course maker, hillclimb, B-spec, moon missions, Nascar, WRC, etc. etc. The fact you think those features should have been in the game from the beginning doesn't mean that PD owes you those features free of charge.
All commercially developed racing games that have those features are charging you for it, one way or another. The question is whether these development costs are baked in with the price of the base game or if it's sold as a separate add-on. In either case you are paying for those features. If these features should be included for free (i.e. the argument is that we have already paid for them when we bought the game), then the logic is that game publishers should charge the consumers in advance for features that may or may not exist in the future. I'm sure you see that's not a good idea.
There is no concept of “in the first place” there just things that weren’t included.
But here is the big rub, that’s how YOU play the game, went through the game and what YOU want from the game.
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totally agree with your post. Buying a PS5 will have its advantages, and I don't think it's all about budget, regardless of how much you want to spend. This is all about the PC. I'm doing the exact same thing you wrote about. If you want to stay ahead of the curve, the PC is the best choice. It depends on what you want to achieve.Sorry for the slightly awkward offtopic (and extremely long) post you're about to read, but there's a few things I have to say.
Right... so, I'm back here again, but this time with a totally different mindset compared to how I was a couple of days ago.
Just in case anyone's wondering what I mean, feel free to check out my previous post right here (WARNING: it's bad... I mean REALLY bad lol)
Well, to my defense, I must say I was already having a pretty rough day at work by the time I found out about this DLC, which acted as the "icing on the cake" to me... being a PS4 player, the moment I realized it's going to be a PS5-exclusive thing i just lost it, and allowed anger and frustration to take the best of me, culminating in that post.
This doesn't normally happen to me, I always try to not get ahead of myself and not take rushed-out conclusions and what not but... this time it was different, I guess I was under the "perfect storm" here and just over-reacted.
I almost feel embarrassed by this...
Anyway, after reading and thinking about some of you guy's arguments on this thread, and with all the bad feelings out of the way, now I can see things differently and realized my previous post just doesn't reflect my current opinion on this subject anymore.
So, I'd like to apologize you guys for the bad choice of words, and if I may, allow me to "reset" my opinion on this:
First and foremost, this looks like a very nice DLC overall, with a pretty good number of races being added, and being endurance races makes it even more special which is something most of us have been waiting/hoping to see for ages on this game.
At this point, information is still a little scarce so there's not a whole lot we can safely conclude or expect from this DLC, but this "qualifying" thing seems to be very interesting, it certainly brings a breath of fresh air into the game to not have to do things the same old way.
As I am a PS4 player, I can't really talk much about Sophy as I've never tried it before, but I guess it's always great news to see it being update and improved. With Sony/PD continuously investing on it, I'm sure the next installment in the series will use it as the "standard" AI to race against.
I'm not gonna lie, knowing this DLC is not coming to PS4 is still a little hard to swallow... like I said on my previous post, PD could simply release this DLC without Sophy and it would pretty much work on PS4, if they wanted to do it I'd happily pay for it for a reasonable price (although there's no such thing as a "reasonable price" these days, even for the most basic essential things, let alone for a game's DLC) but I understand this is not even a matter of hardware limitations anymore, they simply don't want to continue investing and releasing content for a 12-year-old console when they already have a more powerful console on the market for 5 years now, can't really blame them for that.
Previously I blamed PD for "not showing gratitude" regarding PS4 players, but that's just not true because let's face it: I'm sitting on top of nearly 3 years worth of free content (cars, tracks and events) which has been steadily released on a nearly monthly basis, and probably will continue that way for some time (probably not for long but at this point I'll take whatever they want to give me).
Turns out I'm the one not showing enough gratitude in the first place...
Some people even argue this game shouldn't even exist for PS4 at all, and I have to say, after playing this game for nearly 2 years I'm truly surprised with how smooth it runs and how nice it looks, PD as certainly did a great job taking the best out of the PS4 to make GT7 run this good.
As pointed out by @Fezzik a few posts after mine, my statement of "the vast majority of the GT7 player base is made of PS4 players" is also wrong, for some reason I had a different perception of things on that subject, so thanks for clarifying that up for me Fezzik!
Some of you might be wondering: why haven't you bought a PS5 already?! Firstly, my PS4 is only 6 years old (if that...) bought it used from a work colleague, pretty good deal actually, and I still have quite a few games I haven't played on it yet, and on top of that, believe it or not I still go back to my PS3 from time to time, to play some older games that I've missed back in the day.
So, buying a PS5 is not something I'm willing to do at this point, due to a variety of reasons like the pricing, even the used ones are quite pricey, and let's not get started with the PS5 Pro (800 euros for a new one?! C'mon Sony, what are you smoking?).
Here in Portugal, the national minimum wage is just above 900 euros... tell me how that's not a steep price for a console?
Sure the technology and the quality is there, but this is getting to a point where I think it'll make much more sense to use that money to buy a decent PC that allows me to play games as well as doing a lot of other things... if only Gran Turismo gets released on PC someday (doubt it though).
And honestly, I just don't feel the need to buy one... I'm still very satisfied with my PS3 and PS4, for the most part I haven't seen a single game that'll make me go out and say "that's it, I'm buying a PS5"... most of them are just remakes/remasters from older generations so why spend that much money.
Anyway, I don't want to start World War III here because of my personal decision to not buy a PS5, I'll be just fine without it.
Power Pack is said to be a part of Spec III and supposedly both should be released December 4th. But they only announced the date for Power Pack specifically and didn't really mention it as the date for Spec III as well. Which is a bit weird, but it's not like there's any other option though, they gotta release at the same time.
Yeah, I also never bought credits and I never would. Same for most ppl on this forum I guess.
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I dont think its confirming you cant use your garage cars,
