Gran Turismo 7 “Power Pack” Paid DLC Now Available: New Races Including Endurance Events, Qualifying, and “Sophy 3.0”

[pabloprp69]

You forgot the most important Sophy hack IMHO, which is to put a rabbit car up front, as if to trick the AI into using the rabbit car as its adaptive benchmark, not the player. Once I started to do that, I began having really fun battles with the AI. From there I’ve just been tuning individual cars to get everyone as equal as possible. In my experience, that ended up with the cars being anywhere from 10-20pp higher than me, with a few tuned higher than that.


This is the “missing 🌶️” I’m referring to:

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Regardless, I’m excited for what we’re going get in a couple of weeks. If Sophy 3.0 includes less awkward lines, and is able to extrapolate time from pushing the track limits like Demo Sophy was able to (albeit overall pace dialed back a bit), not dive bomb us from two zip codes back and drive in wet weather, I’ll be ecstatic! If she’s able to legitimately strategize even at a basic level (I remember reading an article here probably 2 years ago, where the SOPHY devs were talking about it), then I’ll be over the moon! At any rate, I’m excited where this game is going! My only request to PD and Sony, is to please give me a legitimate reason to buy a PS5 Pro for this game. I WANT to give you more money!

I race Sophy the same way. Some combinations are ok to leave out the rabbit, but some others, such as gr4 races, are a necessity.

I really hope all your wishes come true. Imagine all tracks supported, better pace, different tire compounds, rain, and strategy. I'd be in heaven 😂

 

[hawkeyez]

If they make the car available then you annoy people who paid. Same goes for a track - why would an online player have wasted money on the DLC for them to be able to play it for free?

In lobbies, the host could switch to a DLC track and oops, half the lobby could be unable to play. If they can play, why did the other half bother paying up?

Soon as you bring stuff like that into a paid ecosystem in a game like this you're just asking to splinter the community over it and nuke purchasing power.
Call of Duty used to work like that and even they changed away from it because it wasn't a good business model.

Works both ways, those who didn’t buy only get to use it sometimes, online or in sport mode. If I didn’t earn the car yet I can still use it in sport and time trials. No different.

I wouldn’t be upset. Those who didn’t buy it, can’t customize it, tune it, use it offline. They’re stuck with a bone stock version, but they get to try it out to see if they would want it.

The track could be available to those who race load it in lobbies, but those who don’t pay can’t access it in single player or host their own lobbies using either the dlc track or the dlc cars.

I’m not sure why this is difficult. Other games have done this.

If I bought the dlc, I can buy as many as I want and tune and customize as many as I want. I can host lobbies with the dlc track or don’t bother. Those who didn’t buy, only get a teaser. If anything I think it would entice players to buy the dlc

 

[Kipczirczir07]

It’s only speculation on my part, but I do believe GT7 graphics got dialled back because of PS4 support.

That's definitely not true. Even ps5 struggle to keep framerate at certain tracks. Try GT3 race at the ring and you'll see

 

[TonyLomas]

If this power pack was called 'Gran Turismo 8 Prologue' and it was just the 50 races against Sophy 3.0 and you could use all the cars from GT7, I'd be happy and pay for it. That's how I see the pack.
It's been over 3 and a half years since I paid any money to play GT, I feel polyphony have earnt it from me.

Would it be nice if it was free? Of course. It'd be nice if taxes went down too!

 

[i386]

It's been over 3 and a half years since I paid any money to play GT, I feel polyphony have earnt it from me.

I feel the complete opposite: I've paid 80€ for the "gt experience" but was done with the championships/races & saw the ending video in less than 3 weeks of not even casual gaming (10-15minutes per day during the week) and without doing any "classic" 24h race :/

 

[IngWeltschmer]

You are an evil, evil dude.

And there I was, checking the link on a list of rickrolls being sure it was Rick Astley, but since I didn't find it I deemed it safe...

 

[hawkeyez]

That's definitely not true. Even ps5 struggle to keep framerate at certain tracks. Try GT3 race at the ring and you'll see

The ring is bad for that and Kyoto one sunrise or sunset. Actually the ring, if you notice it hiccuping and just look back it’s smooth as can be.

So while it could be the PS5 can’t handle it either, I kind of think that’s on their end since other tracks look great with the different lighting and never hiccup or stutter.

Another is deep forest, sometimes depending on the lighting, entering or exiting that first or second tunnel or can hiccup. And the game has ALWAYS done that. I noticed it on GT5 or 6 as well. That’s why I say I think it’s something on their end. Usually it’s always specific corners so there’s something going on there.

 

[TonyLomas]

I feel the complete opposite: I've paid 80€ for the "gt experience" but was done with the championships/races & saw the ending video in less than 3 weeks of not even casual gaming (10-15minutes per day during the week) and without doing any "classic" 24h race :/

And yet here you are still on the forums 3 years later. I can only assume you've found some enjoyment from the game since the initial 3 week period.

I'm just saying that I've played it for many many hours, more than most other games I've owned and feel I've had my money's worth.

 

[Nakano219]

Graphics aren't the PS4's choke point - the PS4 is much more CPU-limited than it is GPU-limited.

It's why Sophy isn't on it, and why grid sizes are still small, and probably has some limiting effect on what they can do with the physics, but you can still make nice-looking stuff that runs on it.

 

[ron86]

I feel the complete opposite: I've paid 80€ for the "gt experience" but was done with the championships/races & saw the ending video in less than 3 weeks of not even casual gaming (10-15minutes per day during the week) and without doing any "classic" 24h race :/

I‘ve seen the credits too after a few weeks but have got up to 690 hours of playtime - mostly doing time trials, testing cars, doing sophy races.

To me they definitely earnt the right to finally release some paid stuff after 3 years of presents!

 

[o000o]

Graphics aren't the PS4's choke point - the PS4 is much more CPU-limited than it is GPU-limited.

It's why Sophy isn't on it, and why grid sizes are still small, and probably has some limiting effect on what they can do with the physics, but you can still make nice-looking stuff that runs on it.

I do agree that GT7 shouldn't have been made as cross gen. Was disappointed when learning the news that it'd be included on PS4, when initially it seems to be PS5 only. Hope next GT wouldn't repeat this.

Dunno if they just can keep supporting GT Sport instead (with new cars) while updating GT7.

 

[klondike]

Was anything said about new Trophy's ?

Really hoping this will include some new ones :-)

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

The lack of pricing atm is quite weird. Not sure why they didnt announce the price right away.

Not really liking the fact that the dlc contain content that should be ingame. I dont mind paying for a GT3 pack or a japanese car pack + track for example, hell I did bought the Lewis dlc so as you can see I'm not against it, but releasing a feature that should be in game from the start and was always include in the base GT game and making us pay for it now doesnt really feel good and doesnt feel like GT is going in the right direction.

 

[juanffy18]

The lack of pricing atm is quite weird. Not sure why they didnt announce the price right away.

Not really liking the fact that the dlc contain content that should be ingame. I dont mind paying for a GT3 pack or a japanese car pack + track for example, hell I did bought the Lewis dlc so as you can see I'm not against it, but releasing a feature that should be in game from the start and was always include in the base GT game and making us pay for it now doesnt really feel good and doesnt feel like GT is going in the right direction.

Because the DLC is not a game. Maybe tomorrow or the next week Sony release the DLC in the store for pre purchase, the same happened with the Horizon Forbidden West DLC.

 

[Famine]

Was anything said about new Trophy's ?

Really hoping this will include some new ones :-)

Nothing yet, but we're keeping an eye out...

 

[hawkeyez]

The lack of pricing atm is quite weird. Not sure why they didnt announce the price right away.

Probably trying to gauge what people are willing to pay.

I had another closer look at the info and screenshots in game and it really just looks like hopped up weeklies. Unless I’m missing something, I see 91’ Honda Civic race, etc. it appears that they’re adding more single player content to fill the gap between now and GT8. Not sure that’s a great idea, as somebody said they were done the game in about three weeks, so it makes it feel like they’re just now adding a more robust single player experience. After the fact. And Sophy 3.0 is there to sell it.

More and more it looks like something I’m just not interested in. Which is ok, I’m beginning to understand why they did it the way they did.

I have a lot of hours into the game and have enjoyed it, mostly just online lobby racing with friends. I’d rate that and making liveries 9/10. As for single player experience, I don’t think I’ve had the desire to redo any championships so I’m gonna give it about a 3/10. Most of it I did it because I had to.

 

[Famine]

Probably trying to gauge what people are willing to pay.

It's been set for a while. In all likelihood it's just not going to be announced until after Black Friday/Cyber Monday - or rather after the discounts for that period are done so that GT7 isn't reduced in price any more.

Whatever it will cost, it's going to be comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game itself and that'll look odd

 

[05XR8]

Knowing Australia pricing , I went with $40-$45AUD(20.00-29.99 💶).

 

[hawkeyez]

If it’s more than $20 CAD I’d rather put that money towards PMR or some other game. Famine suggested it’ll be comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game. I bought GT5 as greatest hits and played it for a year or more before GT6 came out. I got it for $5… which I considered a heavily discounted game.

 

[Famine]

Famine suggested it’ll be comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game I bought GT5 as greatest hits and played it for a year or more before GT6 came out. I got it for $5… which I considered a heavily discounted game.

Kay, but they don't do Platinum/Greatest Hits any more. The lowest GT7 has ever been - during this summer's Summer Sale - was two-thirds off, and even that was only the PS4 version.

That was $19.79 for the PS4 Standard and $29.39 for the PS4/PS5 Standard with dual entitlement, for reference. We've seen normal discounts for GT7 of about 50% ($24.99/$39.89 respectively) and the Digital Deluxe version is rarely on sale (Days of Play in 2023 had it at $59.39).

I'm expecting the DLC to be in this $20-$40 area - comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game - so I'm expecting the game to revert to its usual price before they announce the DLC price in order that it doesn't look too similar to buying the whole game. Probably not in the $50-$60 area, as reflected by my choice in this thread's poll.

The current median price in the poll is $26 and buttons.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I think it's gonna be precisely $29.99 USD the very most amount of money they can charge without it looking like a bit too much.

 

[benjoi84]

This "things that should've been in the game" rhetoric has to stop.

They weren't and aren't. There are things in the game you probably didn't ask for as well.

Nobody forced you to buy the game nor the paid DLC. Deal with it.

 

[Mike Hamilton]

This "things that should've been in the game" rhetoric has to stop.

They weren't and aren't. There are things in the game you probably didn't ask for as well.

Nobody forced you to buy the game nor the paid DLC. Deal with it.

I agree. What i never understood/will understand is in this context is: Why do people not wait for all the detailed info or reviews before buying the game. I would totally understand if things were really promised or shown in trailers/teasers and then not realized later. That would be false advertisement. But that was not the case as far as i understand.

 

[Gingerale]

Most complainers never ever mentioned qualifying in this forum. Suddenly it's the biggest flaw of GT7

 

[Grand_Tourist]

The ring is bad for that and Kyoto one sunrise or sunset. Actually the ring, if you notice it hiccuping and just look back it’s smooth as can be.

So while it could be the PS5 can’t handle it either, I kind of think that’s on their end since other tracks look great with the different lighting and never hiccup or stutter.

Another is deep forest, sometimes depending on the lighting, entering or exiting that first or second tunnel or can hiccup. And the game has ALWAYS done that. I noticed it on GT5 or 6 as well. That’s why I say I think it’s something on their end. Usually it’s always specific corners so there’s something going on there.

I experience this at Spa too, a very specific corner, Bruxelles to Speaker's Corner, always stuttering. Especially in the one hour race with 24h experience, when the sun is setting in. I think it has to do with the changing lighting and speed of the time. PS4 console.

When I played Assetto Corsa on pc over 10y ago, I noticed the sun rays between the trees were very influential for the performance and frame rate. As these tracks and corners you and I mentioned have these specific elements in them, I am getting convinced it has to do with that.

 

[hawkeyez]

I agree. What i never understood/will understand is in this context is: Why do people not wait for all the detailed info or reviews before buying the game. I would totally understand if things were really promised or shown in trailers/teasers and then not realized later. That would be false advertisement. But that was not the case as far as i understand.

Apricot Hill Raceway. Was that not in a trailer or teaser? I faintly remember it being there. (just checked, it was)

Also to the guy saying this has to stop, sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Remember PD significantly reducing payouts with that early update, I was ticked about it. I’m glad a lot of people spoke up and used reviews since they fixed that in a hurry. But it never was the same. It came back to about half of what it was. I found the mini challenge at Goodwood, a ton of fun and it didn’t hurt that it paid out pretty good. After their update I maybe raced it a couple more times. There’s a balance to be had there and they ruined it.

Most complainers never ever mentioned qualifying in this forum. Suddenly it's the biggest flaw of GT7

The biggest flaw is chase the rabbit, which doesn’t really require qualifying. Not everything is black and white. People complained about the AI, you can’t have qualifying until the AI is sorted out to where if you start up front or near you’re guaranteed to win. I think that’s probably why qualifying is coming to Gran Turismo, because they’re finally trying to get good AI. It’s never been good. On launch I expected better. And I don’t even mean more difficult, I just mean less like moving 9000lbs pylons and more like a human would drive.

I experience this at Spa too, a very specific corner, Bruxelles to Speaker's Corner, always stuttering. Especially in the one hour race with 24h experience, when the sun is setting in. I think it has to do with the changing lighting and speed of the time. PS4 console.
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When I played Assetto Corsa on pc over 10y ago, I noticed the sun rays between the trees were very influential for the performance and frame rate. As these tracks and corners you and I mentioned have these specific elements in them, I am getting convinced it has to do with that.

That could be, maybe they need to reduce it in the trouble areas and not other area. I stand by my opinion that the graphics got knocked back a little. Could just be in my head though. Gran Turismo conspiracy theory

 

[Grand_Tourist]

Kay, but they don't do Platinum/Greatest Hits any more. The lowest GT7 has ever been - during this summer's Summer Sale - was two-thirds off, and even that was only the PS4 version.

That was $19.79 for the PS4 Standard and $29.39 for the PS4/PS5 Standard with dual entitlement, for reference. We've seen normal discounts for GT7 of about 50% ($24.99/$39.89 respectively) and the Digital Deluxe version is rarely on sale (Days of Play in 2023 had it at $59.39).

I'm expecting the DLC to be in this $20-$40 area - comparable to a heavily discounted standard version of the game - so I'm expecting the game to revert to its usual price before they announce the DLC price in order that it doesn't look too similar to buying the whole game. Probably not in the $50-$60 area, as reflected by my choice in this thread's poll.

The current median price in the poll is $26 and buttons.

I bought GT7 somewhere October / November last year for €60 and a week later it was priced €30. It's all about timing. Never paying full price again for any game. I bought RDR2 and GTAV together for about €30-35. 100% finished both games. Still playing RDR2.

 

[Famine]

It's all about timing.

Buying stuff before Black Friday (even in places where that's a day that makes no sense at all) is insane.

Along with the universal Black Friday, PlayStation has a bunch of sales across the year which we regularly write about: New Year (January), Spring (March), Days of Play (June), Summer (July/August), sometimes Halloween, BF, and Holiday (December).

 

[Grand_Tourist]

Buying stuff before Black Friday (even in places where that's a day that makes no sense at all) is insane.

Along with the universal Black Friday, PlayStation has a bunch of sales across the year which we regularly write about: New Year (January), Spring (March), Days of Play (June), Summer (July/August), sometimes Halloween, BF, and Holiday (December).

Thx for the tip, will wait out for Ghost of Tsushima. Been on my list a while now.

 

[Mike Hamilton]

Apricot Hill Raceway. Was that not in a trailer or teaser? I faintly remember it being there. (just checked, it was)

Which trailer? Can you share a link and where exactly you see apricot hill? Also: Was that the/a reason you preordered the game?