Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.43 Now Available: Adds Three Cars, New Races & Engine Swaps

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Like Kaz previously said , he originally wanted to make a hardcore simulation just like Iracing or ACC but Sony were against that , they wanted to be more casual friendly so that's true to this day and i dont think Sony is worried about that especially when they see GT7 is selling really good only behind GT3 in the US atm

Very much this^
I know many people doesn't like this but it's the reality - i would love all of those race cars of any kind /maybe not nascar lol/
and that's why i think PD should go back to making DLC packs and that way they can make money out of us and in return we get what we want :P

Yeah absolutely, make a DLC Pack with race cars for those who are into it, make some extra cash with it and proceed with the road cars on the monthly free updates.
 
Isn't it obvious? To have a compelling product when GT8 hits the market. GT7 is a complete product, PD don't need to do anything beyond a bare minimum for the remaining lifecycle of the title. It's compelling enough to continue selling to PS5 owners in the market for a driving title. I know some have this bizarre idea GT8 will be 5, 6, 7 years in the making - but that's clearly not going to be the case if you understand PD's workflow and carry over content.

PD are producing 3x-4x more content per month than they're releasing. By now they will have a good 50-100 cars in their locker and at least 3-4 new tracks. They're certainly not going to give all that away to existing GT7 owners who paid their £70/$70 2 years ago. That's locked away for a new £70/$70 GT8 purchase down the road - quite possibly with paid DLC to keep the revenue flowing.

Pretty much every notable road and race car from the last 3 years aside from the Toyota GR010 and Porsche 911 GT3 RS are absent from the game. That isn't coincidence, it's driven by market forces to maximise GT8's sales. Titles that are GAAS or only recently released are getting all these cars. PD and Sony are cynically limiting the scale and scope of their DLC. I don't blame them, but it's time we wised upto this fact.
Well said, i've spoken to a lot of people who think the exact same thing recently and i must say i also think this is PD's plan.

About the update, i like the Evo. Good addition. Renault is meh to me, i understand people love it and that it will be a fun meme car but i'm not going to give it any attention when it's in the game. Don't at all care for the Audi since to me it's the worst TT and there's so much better Audi's they could add.

What i geniunely want at this point is a new track. I'm on my knees for it. I would love new racecars but as explained by @Nielsen, i'm not expecting that anytime soon, don't even have any hope for new Super GT/JGTC or Gran Turismo Classics. Please PD, a new tarmac racetrack...
 
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Well said, i've spoken to a lot of people who think the exact same thing recently and i must say i also think this is PD's plan.

About the update, i like the Evo. Good addition. Renault is meh to me, i understand people love it and that it will be a fun meme car but i'm not going to give it any attention when it's in the game. Don't at all care for the Audi since to me it's the worst TT and there's so much better Audi's they could add.

What i geniunely want at this point is a new track. I'm on my knees for it. I would love new racecars but as explained by @Nielsen, i'm not expecting that anytime soon, don't even have any hope for new Super GT/JGTC or Gran Turismo Classics. Please PD, a new tarmac racetrack...
I'm still waiting for Monaco to make a return to the game. One of the most iconic tracks in the world, featured in previous GT games but somehow missing from GT7/GTS when we have actual F1 cars in the game.
 
I'm still waiting for Monaco to make a return to the game. One of the most iconic tracks in the world, featured in previous GT games but somehow missing from GT7/GTS when we have actual F1 cars in the game.
Just for reference, it's never been in GT before - and due to the confusion people have over this, it's unlike to ever be in GT. In either form.
 
True to have a look this way it shows…

AC ~10.000 average 30 days
ACC ~3.000 average 30 days
FH 5 ~12.700 average 30 days

It is for steam charts here above

I have placed ~ 25.000th overall with a silver medal Lap time on the lastest time trial I received price.
How many of those people are actually playing the game like having 1-3 hours if racing vs people ( most of GT7 players on my friends just) just logging in to do their daily miles to get some money or a car in the hope they may actually want to play the game properly and day?
 
I'm still waiting for Monaco to make a return to the game. One of the most iconic tracks in the world, featured in previous GT games but somehow missing from GT7/GTS when we have actual F1 cars in the game.
The closest we ever got was an unlicensed recreation (ironically alongside unlicensed F1 cars) Similar to what SMS did for their version in Project CARS. We've never officially had Monaco and to my knowledge, no one outside the F1 games has.
 
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I'm still waiting for Monaco to make a return to the game. One of the most iconic tracks in the world, featured in previous GT games but somehow missing from GT7/GTS when we have actual F1 cars in the game.
I don't think that we will see that track in the future.
Even at previous titles was as Cote d' Azur and never as Monaco .
i think that have to do with the license you have to pay in order to use it and definitely ain't cheap to get the ok.
Silverstone is missing also perhaps for the same reasons.
 
Well, I get what you are saying in substance but the metric from GT7 I used are extrapolated from the 25.000th people who clocked a better time than me in the Time Trial event.
I know that people playing in the Online mode of GT7 is a fraction of the grand total but then we can assume it is more than 25 000 th players overall.
How many of them are as happy than me playing the game as it is ? I don’t know obviously …
But if given an alternative would I play another racing game than GT7 ? I would keep GT7.
If I think that GT7 would deserve better content? Obvious again.

The metric of average player balance in favor of GT7.
Does it push PD to act on it? Well if you already win something you don’t have to do better.
Since we are playing it we give approuval by this way….
PD has nothing to deliver to us.

End of my argument
 
What I love is that it's a cheap update as far as car value goes. I can enjoy a few new cars (OK let's be realistic, 1 race each) and keep my money for the 917!
The 917 is an interesting car IMO. I don't do well with it versus anything faster than Gr. 3, but it's still a hoot to drive.
We will find out soon enough.

While I have almost no hope left for GT7, it's only fair that we got one, after a full year since Grand Valley. I don't think many people enjoy Lake Louise nearly enough to consider it a proper track addition.

It is the second anniversary of the game anyway, they better make it count once more.
Coming from 1998 Sega Rally, I think Lake Louise is definitely valid as a track. Easy? No. Fun? Not sure on that, either, but it gives you the experience of snow racing. The first time I looked at a snow stage I was like, suuuuure this is winnable...NOT!! It wasn't long until I learned I could thread a Stratos through the twists and turns and finish the stage in first place, letting me kinda chill for the final stage.
 
Speaking of engine swaps…
After this update there Will be two VW and two Audis that would benefit from a the raspy roar of a 5-cyl. Will this be the time? (Just a gut feeling thing.)
 
Why all the hate for the TTS? It fills a gap that has been missing since launch day, as does the Evo too.

The Renault 4 is the one I am surprised is getting so much love. Honestly I find the car goofy looking and its performance specs mean unless it has a really ott engine swap it is another useless car.
I think that, when it comes to the TTS, PD weren't smart about it. They could have opted for the RS version, which would differentiate it from the existing 2014 TTS and the TT 3.2, while also being the first Audi RS model in the game. This is the strategy to diversify the car list even for different generations of the same model.
The same for the R8: R8 4.2 (gen 1), R8 V10 Plus 2015 (gen 2) and R8 V10 GT RWD 2023 (gen 2, post facelift, rear wheel drive "track" version). You could do this for plenty of other Audis.
And plenty of brands could use this "strat".
We have the A45 AMG from 2013, and to update the line up, we could get the 2020 CLA45 S AMG, which is pretty much the sedan version of the newer A45.

The Renault 4, yes, I think it's a weird/meme choice, that feeds off the nostalgia of a percentage of the player base. Some people will use the "it did rallying" as a reason, although almost anything was used for rally at some point, with some real rally cars/cars with real rally pedigree (like the 70s Ford Escorts) being much more relevant in that regard. And engine swaps shouldn't be the sole reason to add a car to the game. But I'm yet to understand what is the criteria PD uses to model cars, because at this point, it's assumed that they just stumble upon something, and decide to add it.

It appears GT Sport’s FIA-centric base content gave many people the wrong idea about what the GT franchise really stands for. Expecting a steady stream of incoming GT3 cars in GT7 is delusional, because the numbered titles always had road cars as their primary focus. Sony “bosses” know this.
The thing is, PD isn't even doing a good job at modeling road cars. There's probably over 500 road cars that would fit really well into the game, yet they managed to choose road cars outside that sphere, and completely ignoring the glaring omissions. The best update yet, had 7 cars, and atleast 6 of them were in most people's wishlist at some point.
No one is really expecting a steady stream of GT3 cars, but a few here and there (Ferrari and Aston, and then Bentley) would make a huge difference.

Yeah absolutely, make a DLC Pack with race cars for those who are into it, make some extra cash with it and proceed with the road cars on the monthly free updates.
That's not how it works. PD can only model a limited amount of cars per year (some say it's 60 per year). Of which some are added to GT7 via update, the rest probably saved for the next game. Having paid DLC, won't magically increase the number of cars they can model in a year.
And given their track record, even as road cars go, chances are we would still get road cars that nobody asked for, so not only you would be forcing those who want race cars, to pay extra to have them, and those who want good road cars forced to endure meme cars, duplicates, and so on.
 
The closest we ever got was an unlicensed recreation (ironically alongside unlicensed F1 cars) Similar to what SMS did for their version in Project CARS. We've never officially had Monaco and to my knowledge, no one outside the F1 games has.
R: Racing Evolution for PS 2 had a licensed track in Monaco, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Wasn't the Monaco F1 track in GT6? Correct name is Cote d'Azur, but it's what everyone knows as "Monaco".

https://gran-turismo.fandom.com/wiki/Côte_d'Azur
Circuit de Monaco (the correct name for the Monaco F1 track is also known as Monte Carlo) has never been in a Gran Turismo game.
What Gran Turismo had was Cote d'Azur and while they were very similar, it is not Circuit de Monaco.
 
The thing is, PD isn't even doing a good job at modeling road cars.
I mean, you can have your opinion on the selection of road cars that they've chosen to include, it's perfectly valid, but that statement is patently false. They model them very well!

And whilst I'd agree that there are plenty of great cars that are missing, the current selection is hardly bad. There are many legitimate criticisms of GT7, this one seems a bit much.
 
I feel like everytime PD gives us an update, we're all like ants crowding up on the extremely small dissatisfying crumb of food on the table. :lol: I hope for the best, but really preparing to be disappointed.

At least, I've been looking forward to the Evo IX for quite many years too long now. It's my dream car after all !!!!
 
Again, this is my point being made for me...
My pleasure. ;)
Circuit de Monaco (the correct name for the Monaco F1 track is also known as Monte Carlo) has never been in a Gran Turismo game.
What Gran Turismo had was Cote d'Azur and while they were very similar, it is not Circuit de Monaco.
Understood. I always thought what we had in the game was the official circuit - it seemed pretty close to the original! Going to go have a look at a video of GT6 on Cote d'Azur now to refresh my memory...
 
If I'm not mistaken, despite having basically the same layout, the most substantial difference the Cote d'Azur GT5 and GT6 track is that it is wider than the original Monte Carlo track.
 
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R: Racing Evolution for PS 2 had a licensed track in Monaco, if I'm not mistaken.

After some digging, it indeed does have it fully licensed as "Circuit De Monaco" (It's official name). Weird that a Ridge Racer Spinoff from the early 2000s manages it yet no Sim Racer outside the F1 games have managed to do the same.
 
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