I'm trying to look at things like a casual consumer not the fanboy that I am. I show the limited clips released so far to my non GT5 friends who only play casually on my system and they think it looks absolutely fantastic. I know a couple of other people who are casual gamers who have purchased the GT series before and all they care about are the new tracks and cars, they know nothing about anything we talk about here. Imagine the commercials leading up to release. Awesome new cars on awesome new tracks. Virtual communities and organized racing leagues. GPS interaction. Course creators 5-10,000 sq. kms. Ronda and other photomode locations. The game will be visually beautiful in commercials and I can see how it'll have a broad appeal to casual fans. Be nice if you added your own thoughts on what we're supposed to glean from that article. I'll take that bet...I'll give you 2 to 1 odds and 1 year of sales...for $1 Million in credits (if we can transfer credits) or up to 4 premium cars totally $1Million. Game?