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Yes. They stated this.
"Longest rain delay, that (as of now) resumed on the same day."
Yes. They stated this.
The engines are tuned to make as much power as possible. I'm sure the best teams and engine shops (ECR, HMS, RFR, TRD) had their engines tuned to make the absolute most out of daylight conditions.
Yea I couldn't word it fast enuff to sound good but yea. I know they get this race going they got couple hrs still left till it's to late. Pretty much going be a july race there already almost at 100 miles or just over.
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Apart from the obvious ribbing that question would bring you from hard-core NASCAR fans, what would happen is influenced by many factors, Andrew - let me try to give your query a hopefully understandable answer.
You have to remember some things:
NASCAR is about a 'level playing field' (kind of ironic the bunch of them are almost always banked
This means that everything is equalised as much as possible (notwithstanding that even with NASCAR's vigorous culling process sometimes an inexperienced jockey can end up in the field) and so with everything being equal, a NASCAR race, unlike many other forms of motorsport, have the field usually bunched together. This becomes more noticeable on an oval or tri-oval - or basically any track that requires turning in only one direction. In saying that you could say that road-courses are actually an anomaly in NASCAR (or maybe just a different form of circus
So why is NASCAR all about 'boring ovals' as some would call it?
Because with a circular motion we are truly testing the effects of many factors on speed, including gravity (let alone gravitational time); if we were to make a particle-accelerator for instance, we would select a circular track, not a road course-like configuration
Let's go back to Fred's very apt analogy about the toilet bowl. Flush the toilet and gravity pulls the turd down into the hole - and in this case 'the hole' is the infield. Enough water and drivers who crash (and are 'pulled' into the hole by gravity) will have to be rescued from the infield by NASCAR officials in Zodiacs. At the very best it would mean trapped cars in the mud.
When it rains, an oval becomes a toilet bowl. You don't want to race in a wet toilet bowl. Now you may ask - why? Why would we have to slip down into the hole - why not, like some troublesome turds, stick to the surface of the bowl and refuse to go down? Well - more to the point is - that they aren't going anywhere. they slowed to a dead-stop. In other words we still can take those cars out into the rain in a bowl-shaped arena, but that means the drivers are going to have to drive awfully slow - in effect the opposite of what NASCAR is all about. AFAIK, NASCAR do have 'rain' tires but very rarely use them.
Because Rain tires have grooves. Grooves are the opposite of what we want when we need to go as fast as possible on a circular track because on a circular track with the right banking we increase our speeds by pushing what is called the 'slip-angle' - in effect taking a slick tire to its maximum grip as the wheel goes in one direction, but the contact patch of the wheel goes in another direction. Drivers, good ones, can push that slip angle a few degrees, maybe even up to two degrees before losing control of the forces they are manipulating - because going above the slip angle is a dangerous move effecting all aspects of safety all around that car. Effectively using slip angle is influenced by what is between the wheel's contact patch and the track surface. This can be anything from phantom debris ( :roll-eyes;
NASCAR ovals suck up water. They drink it in like there's no tomorrow, and then they weep it out. Track makers engineer seepage grooves into the track, but that is a stop-gap solution. Because water introduces to slip angle what we Canadians, and probably drivers out there where roads are constantly wet, are used to - hydroplaning.
Hydro-planing happens when water gets between your contact patch and the track surface. Grooved tires can help channel water away, sure, and the NASCAR drivers can still circle the track at 100 MPH - but . . . what is the use of that? :roll-eyes: We're basically defeating the purpose aren't we? We're not running 500 mile races to test out Rain tires, or maximum grip, or driver skill under wet-conditions - there are plenty of different motorsport disciplines out that address those issue. We're testing endurance and strategy.
Sure you may say - let them run rain tires - and we'll test out their endurance and strategic skills, but human nature being what it is, drivers are not going to limit themselves, and rain races will have twice as many high -speed crash-fests as dry runs, and if anything NASCAR is overly paranoid about is safety - and yet sometimes seemingly with good reason, because the sport has many casualties, participants and spectators alike.
So when you engineer a high-speed ballet, dress the dancers in 3000 pounds of steel, and make them dance together for hours on end bunched up a few inches away from each other while defying gravity at 200 MPH, you have an incredibly beautiful spectacle, a super engineering experiment in motion, and a sure recipe for disaster.
Throwing water at that cocktail is only going to muddy it up.
Hope that shed some light
Apart from the obvious ribbing that question would bring you from hard-core NASCAR fans, what would happen is influenced by many factors, Andrew - let me try to give your query a hopefully understandable answer.
You have to remember some things:
NASCAR is about a 'level playing field' (kind of ironic the bunch of them are almost always banked
This means that everything is equalised as much as possible (notwithstanding that even with NASCAR's vigorous culling process sometimes an inexperienced jockey can end up in the field) and so with everything being equal, a NASCAR race, unlike many other forms of motorsport, have the field usually bunched together. This becomes more noticeable on an oval or tri-oval - or basically any track that requires turning in only one direction. In saying that you could say that road-courses are actually an anomaly in NASCAR (or maybe just a different form of circus
So why is NASCAR all about 'boring ovals' as some would call it?
Because with a circular motion we are truly testing the effects of many factors on speed, including gravity (let alone gravitational time); if we were to make a particle-accelerator for instance, we would select a circular track, not a road course-like configuration
Let's go back to Fred's very apt analogy about the toilet bowl. Flush the toilet and gravity pulls the turd down into the hole - and in this case 'the hole' is the infield. Enough water and drivers who crash (and are 'pulled' into the hole by gravity) will have to be rescued from the infield by NASCAR officials in Zodiacs. At the very best it would mean trapped cars in the mud.
When it rains, an oval becomes a toilet bowl. You don't want to race in a wet toilet bowl. Now you may ask - why? Why would we have to slip down into the hole - why not, like some troublesome turds, stick to the surface of the bowl and refuse to go down? Well - more to the point is - that they aren't going anywhere. they slowed to a dead-stop. In other words we still can take those cars out into the rain in a bowl-shaped arena, but that means the drivers are going to have to drive awfully slow - in effect the opposite of what NASCAR is all about. AFAIK, NASCAR do have 'rain' tires but very rarely use them.
Because Rain tires have grooves. Grooves are the opposite of what we want when we need to go as fast as possible on a circular track because on a circular track with the right banking we increase our speeds by pushing what is called the 'slip-angle' - in effect taking a slick tire to its maximum grip as the wheel goes in one direction, but the contact patch of the wheel goes in another direction. Drivers, good ones, can push that slip angle a few degrees, maybe even up to two degrees before losing control of the forces they are manipulating - because going above the slip angle is a dangerous move effecting all aspects of safety all around that car. Effectively using slip angle is influenced by what is between the wheel's contact patch and the track surface. This can be anything from phantom debris (
NASCAR ovals suck up water. They drink it in like there's no tomorrow, and then they weep it out. Track makers engineer seepage grooves into the track, but that is a stop-gap solution. Because water introduces to slip angle what we Canadians, and probably drivers out there where roads are constantly wet, are used to - hydroplaning.
Hydro-planing happens when water gets between your contact patch and the track surface. Grooved tires can help channel water away, sure, and the NASCAR drivers can still circle the track at 100 MPH - but . . . what is the use of that? :roll-eyes: We're basically defeating the purpose aren't we? We're not running 500 mile races to test out Rain tires, or maximum grip, or driver skill under wet-conditions - there are plenty of different motorsport disciplines out that address those issue. We're testing endurance and strategy.
Sure you may say - let them run rain tires - and we'll test out their endurance and strategic skills, but human nature being what it is, drivers are not going to limit themselves, and rain races will have twice as many high -speed crash-fests as dry runs, and if anything NASCAR is overly paranoid about is safety - and yet sometimes seemingly with good reason, because the sport has many casualties, participants and spectators alike.
So when you engineer a high-speed ballet, dress the dancers in 3000 pounds of steel, and make them dance together for hours on end bunched up a few inches away from each other while defying gravity at 200 MPH, you have an incredibly beautiful spectacle, a super engineering experiment in motion, and a sure recipe for disaster.
Throwing water at that cocktail is only going to muddy it up.
Hope that shed some light
Apart from the obvious ribbing that question would bring you from hard-core NASCAR fans, what would happen is influenced by many factors, Andrew - let me try to give your query a hopefully understandable answer.
You have to remember some things:
NASCAR is about a 'level playing field' (kind of ironic the bunch of them are almost always banked
This means that everything is equalised as much as possible (notwithstanding that even with NASCAR's vigorous culling process sometimes an inexperienced jockey can end up in the field) and so with everything being equal, a NASCAR race, unlike many other forms of motorsport, have the field usually bunched together. This becomes more noticeable on an oval or tri-oval - or basically any track that requires turning in only one direction. In saying that you could say that road-courses are actually an anomaly in NASCAR (or maybe just a different form of circus
So why is NASCAR all about 'boring ovals' as some would call it?
Because with a circular motion we are truly testing the effects of many factors on speed, including gravity (let alone gravitational time); if we were to make a particle-accelerator for instance, we would select a circular track, not a road course-like configuration
Let's go back to Fred's very apt analogy about the toilet bowl. Flush the toilet and gravity pulls the turd down into the hole - and in this case 'the hole' is the infield. Enough water and drivers who crash (and are 'pulled' into the hole by gravity) will have to be rescued from the infield by NASCAR officials in Zodiacs. At the very best it would mean trapped cars in the mud.
When it rains, an oval becomes a toilet bowl. You don't want to race in a wet toilet bowl. Now you may ask - why? Why would we have to slip down into the hole - why not, like some troublesome turds, stick to the surface of the bowl and refuse to go down? Well - more to the point is - that they aren't going anywhere. they slowed to a dead-stop. In other words we still can take those cars out into the rain in a bowl-shaped arena, but that means the drivers are going to have to drive awfully slow - in effect the opposite of what NASCAR is all about. AFAIK, NASCAR do have 'rain' tires but very rarely use them.
Because Rain tires have grooves. Grooves are the opposite of what we want when we need to go as fast as possible on a circular track because on a circular track with the right banking we increase our speeds by pushing what is called the 'slip-angle' - in effect taking a slick tire to its maximum grip as the wheel goes in one direction, but the contact patch of the wheel goes in another direction. Drivers, good ones, can push that slip angle a few degrees, maybe even up to two degrees before losing control of the forces they are manipulating - because going above the slip angle is a dangerous move effecting all aspects of safety all around that car. Effectively using slip angle is influenced by what is between the wheel's contact patch and the track surface. This can be anything from phantom debris (
NASCAR ovals suck up water. They drink it in like there's no tomorrow, and then they weep it out. Track makers engineer seepage grooves into the track, but that is a stop-gap solution. Because water introduces to slip angle what we Canadians, and probably drivers out there where roads are constantly wet, are used to - hydroplaning.
Hydro-planing happens when water gets between your contact patch and the track surface. Grooved tires can help channel water away, sure, and the NASCAR drivers can still circle the track at 100 MPH - but . . . what is the use of that? We're basically defeating the purpose aren't we? We're not running 500 mile races to test out Rain tires, or maximum grip, or driver skill under wet-conditions - there are plenty of different motorsport disciplines out that address those issues. We're testing endurance and strategy.
Sure you may say - let them run rain tires - and we'll test out their endurance and strategic skills, but human nature being what it is, drivers are not going to limit themselves, and rain races will have twice as many high -speed crash-fests as dry runs, and if anything NASCAR is overly paranoid about is safety - and yet sometimes seemingly with good reason, because the sport has many casualties, participants and spectators alike.
So when you engineer a high-speed ballet, dress the dancers in 3000 pounds of steel, and make them dance together for hours on end bunched up a few inches away from each other while defying gravity at 200 MPH, you have an incredibly beautiful spectacle, a super engineering experiment in motion, and a sure recipe for disaster.
Throwing water at that cocktail is only going to muddy it up.
Hope that shed some light
From Autosport: "NASCAR estimates the race will restart at 8.30pm local time, which is an hour and a half from now."
That is 1:30 GMT, highlights it is in the morning for me
Post of the year. 👍
Thanks. Gonna get an A on my English paper.
